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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1961-10-18MINUTES OF THE HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION Council Chambers, City Hall Huntington Beach, California Wednesday, October 18th, 1961 COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Letson, Welch, Worthy, Miller, Stang, Kaufman, Chairman Bazil. COMMISSIONERS -ABSENT: None. MINUTES: The adjourned regular meeting of the City Planning Commission was called to order at 7:45 o'clock P.M., by Chairman Bazil. STUDY SESSION FOR HUNTINGTON HARBOUR -The Planning Director presented suggestions of various subjects which should be taken into consideration for the proposed Huntington Harbour Development. LOT SIZES: Chairman Bazil questioned the lot size within the proposed marina. ' Walter Chaffey, representing the Huntington Harbour Company stated that he felt the lot 'size should be a minimum of 5000 sq. ft. This would be considering 1000 sq. ft. of water area as part of the lot area to make a total of 6000 sq. ft. Chairman Bazil pointed oUt, that the subdivision ordinance requires 6000 sq. ft. lots and -does not provide for any exceptions for special types of development. Commissioner Stang asked Mr. Chaffey if the water areas would be dedicated to the City-.�,Mr. Chaffey stated that they would fully cooperate, and dedicate it to which ever governmental agency that was necessary to provide proper policing. It was suggested that the waterways should be deeded rather than dedicated to permanently assure their public use and fully clarify their.ownership, control and responsibility. It was generally felt that the waterways should be deeded to the City and the City could in turn"contract with the Orange County 441 Page #2 Minutes - H. B. Planning Commission Wednesday, October 18, 1961 Harbor District for policing and other services. Mr. Courtney Mathews, Wm. Pierera and Assoc., addressed the Commission, and stated that the proposed marina is unique and should be considered as a whole, He stated that the water will be used by the entire community, and that they propose to develop the land in a manner that would be desirable for the people of the marina. Chairman Bazil questioned what percentage of lots would be waterfront lots. Mr. Mathews stated that about one half of the R-1 lots will be on the waterfront. Mr. Lewis Douglas, developer, addressed the Commission and stated he was opposed to the 6000 sq. ft. lot sizes. He pointed out that this proposed marina will be entirely different from any dry land subdivisions and that people would not care for large lots, since the water is considered as recreational area. Fire Chief Higgins asked if such lots of 5000 sq', ft. were approved, would alleys be provided. City Engineer, James R. Wheeler, stated that he did not care to provide alleys within the marina, since it would be a great expense to the City, due to the maintenance. City Administrator, Doyle Miller, pointed out that a marina should be defined in the ordinance and a special ordinance prepared, to cover the same. He also suggested that the ratio of land to water, and waterfront lots to interior lots be considered in defining a marina. It was generally agreed that because of the unique type of development, 5000 sq. ft. minimum lot sizes for the entire development would be given every consideration. STREET WIDTHS: The Planning Director pointed out that the IWAS 442 Page #3 Minutes - H. B. Planning Commission ' Wednesday, October 18, 1961 proposed street right-of-way, width on the cul-de-sacs are proposed 46 ft. wide with 36'ft. of paving and that all other local street widths are 60 ft. wide. He stated that local traffic generated by the'residents would necessitate a wider collector street, which also presents the question whether or not a north and south through street would be necessary. Anticipated traffic volumes were based on estimates of the number of lots in various sections of the development and an average of 6 automobile trips per day going to and from each lot. The Planning Director further stated that there is a possibility of extending Edinger Avenue to Pacific Coast Highway and probably a freeway would be located just north of the harbor development. These factors also have to be considered in the traffic patterns of the area. WATERWAYS: The Planning Director stated that the main channel'will be deeded to the State Lands Commission as a public waterway. He stated that the question arose concerning the subsidiary waterways to be dedicated to some governmental agency and a suggested joint meeting with all agencies involved. The Planning Director pointed out the problems concerning the waterways in Newport Beach and that it should be determined at the outset who will have legal owner- ship of the water areas. It was suggested that a better solution of this problem would be to deed the waterways to the City and the City could possibly contract with the appropriate agency to avoid any confusion pertaining to ownership, maintenance and operation. If the City were to assume the responsibility for maintenance and operation of the water areas, it was suggested that a maintenance district be formed rather than the expense to be a general budget item. PUBLIC BEACHES: Chairman Bazil questioned the provisions -3- 443 Page #4 Minutes - H. B. Planning Commission Wednesday, October 18, 1961 for public beaches within the marina. Mr. Lewis Douglas, developer, stated that on the approach to each bridge they were proposing a beach area to be deeded or dedicated to the City.- In addition there would be boat mooring areas for owners of interior lots. He further stated that the public parking would be in the proximity to the beach and mooring areas. Mr. Lewis Douglas asked when a meeting could be scheduled to meet with the appropriate agencies for deeding of the waterways. City Attorney Charles Bauer stated that this would be determined by the City Council. City Administrator Doyle Miller, stated that he will bring up this matter at the next regular Council meeting. The matter of a special provision for zoning was briefly discussed and it was agreed that additional study will be necessary. The question arose regarding as to whether or not the tentative tract map could be submitted prior to adoption of modified zoning. It was noted thata conditional exception would be required to allow a reduction in lot size and other changes from the standards of the subdivision ordinance. LETTER OF APPRECIATION TO ATTORNEY BAUER Chairman Bazil presented a letter of appreciation to City Attorney Charles A; Bauer for his services to the Commission and the people of the City and congratulating 'him on his appointment as Judge of the Municipal Court. There being no further business, W. C. Warner, Secretary THE MEETING ADJOURNED. -4- V�J Robert Bazil, Chairman 0