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HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
STUDY SESSION
Council Chambers, Civic Center
Huntington Beach, California
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 27, 1970
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
MEMBERS PRESENT: Bazil, Higgins, Porter, Slates, Miller,
Duke, Kerins
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
DISCUSSION:
Edison Company Facilities and Undergrounding
procedures.
Messrs. Dick Campbell, Bob Shelton,
Bob Burbank and Ken Sather, representing the Edison Co.,
attended the meeting. Dick Campbell, District Manager for
Edison Company, reviewed the District's responsibilities and
discussed the load growth within the district over the past
years.
Chairman Slates requested that the
Commissioners direct any questions they may -have to
Mr. Campbell so that he may answer them prior to a general
field trip by the entire Commission. Commissioner Porter
stated that he would like to see facilities for the Edison
Company and those of the General Telephone Co. consolidated
into one set of poles in an attempt to make the lines less
obtrusive. Mr. Campbell answered that they have a joint
pole agreement with the telephone company; however, the
telephone company is reluctant to locate their lines on
poles with high tension - Edison Company lines. Commissioner
Duke questioned the cost of undergrounding. Mr. Campbell
replied that Harbor Blvd. may be used as a bench mark where
the costs ran anywhere from $75 to $100 per foot to under-
ground existing overhead facilities. He further stated
that within residential developments the direct burial
system, the CIC (cable -in -conduit) is used at a cost of
$50 to $100 per lot. He added that cost within commercial
and industrial districts was considerably higher; however,
the Edison Company was engaged in research and development
in an attempt to provide for a low cost direct burial system.
Commissioner Slates asked the
amount of money the Edison Company has set aside to under-
ground existing overhead lines in the City. Mr. Campbell
stated that approximately $280,000 had been set aside for
this purpose. With regard to undergrounding costs, Mr.
Campbell stated that with the exception of undergrounding
residential areas, developers are required to pay the
difference in cost between the overhead and underground
facilities. He also stated that the load in commercial
and industrial areas are -too great to be undergrounded
economically.
Commissioner Kerins asked what
the highest voltage was that could be undergrounded.
Mr. Campbell stated that 12 KV lines have been under -
grounded in some areas and that extremely high voltage
lines (66 KV) have been undergrounded in certain instances
such as for offshore drilling rigs, around airports, etc.
He stated that the main problem with undergrounding high
voltage lines was that of heat dissipation.
-Commissioner Duke asked questions
relative to undergrounding electrical facilities leading
from sub -stations. Mr. Campbell stated thatthis is a
question of density and electrical load. Commissioner Duke
asked the number of sub -stations existing in the City.
Mr. Campbell replied that there were seven.
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October 27, 1970
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Commissioner Porter asked
the capacity of the existing steam generating station.
Mr. Campbell replied that the two existing units generate
790 kilowatts each. He stated that ultimately the station
would generate a total of 22 million kilowatts. He further
stated that the cost of the proposed expansion would run in
the neighborhood of 179 million to 200 million dollars.
Commissioner Porter asked the status of the Bolsa Island.
Mr. Campbell replied that as of this time, the future was
unknown.
The Commission then ad-
journed to an informal meeting to tour the Edison facilities
at 3:00 P.M.
Commissioner Slates ex-
cused himself from further participation in the meeting.
The Commission reconvened
at 4:45 P.M.
DISCUSSION: Restudy Alignment of Atlanta Ave., Orange Ave.
east and west at the intersection of Lake St.
Jere Murphy, Associate
Planner, and Ralph Leyva, Assistant Traffic Engineer, dis-
cussed with the Commission three alternate alignments of
Atlanta Ave. and Orange Ave. east and west at the inter-
section of Lake St. Commissioner Bazil expressed concern
over the design of the intersection of Second St. with
Lake St. It was pointed out that Second St. could be
terminated in a cul-de-sac.
Commissioner Duke asked
how the market value -of theland was determined. It was hinted
out that this was determined by multiplying the assessed
value times four.
Commissioner Bazil was
excused from the meeting at 5:07 P'.M.
Commissioner Higgins asked
how the proposed alignments will relate to the parking
authority. Ken Reynolds, Planning Director, indicated that
precise locations had not been determined. Discussion then
followed regarding rerouting of Pacific Coast Highway.
The following regularly
scheduled items were deferred to a future meeting:
1. Design Review Criteria for the Civic Center.
2. Code Amendments regarding staff review of applications.
3. Goals and Objectives schedules.
DISCUSSION: Guidelines for working relationship with
Planning Commission's Citizens Committee.
Ken Reynolds, Planning
Director, pointed out to the Commission that there are
several citizen's committees appointed by the City Council
who were to work in conjunction with the Planning Commission.
Mr. Reynolds stated that there was a question as to which
group the staff would be responsive to. It was his opinion
that staff action should be through the Commission.
-The Commission indicated
that this matter needed further discussion and requested
that the staff prepare some idea so as to establish a work-
ing relationship between the Planning Commission and Citizen's
Committee to be discussed at a later date.
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Minutes: H.B. Planning Commission Study Session
October 27, 1970
Page 3
CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 70-50
Applicant: John R. Turner
Richard Harlow, Acting Secretary,
informed the Commission that there was a need for clarifi-
cation of one of the conditions of approval for Conditional
Exception No. 70-50 which was approved by the Planning Com-
mission at their October 20, 1970 meeting. He stated that
condition no. 2 required that a blast fence be installed
100 ft. from the north property line in line with the -end
of the runway and taxiway. He stated that there was some
question regarding the location of "the fence and asked
whether the location of the fence was to be as stated in
the condition or was to be located 100 ft. north of the
end of the runway. He also asked if the existing runway
between the end of the runway and taxiway as permitted by
the conditional exception and the blast fence, should be
removed.
It was the consensus of the Com-
mission that there was no need to remove that portion of
the runway but that the runway between the blast fence and
the north property line should be removed.
Mr. Harlow asked that a motion be
made to amend the conditions to reflect the above discus-
sion.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND
SECONDED BY DUKE TO AMEND THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR
CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 70-50 AS FOLLOWS:
No. 2 - A blast fence shall be installed 100 ft. north
of the end of the runway. The precise location, size and
building materials shall be approved by the Board of Zon-
ing Adjustments.
No. 3 - That portion of the runway and taxiway north of
the blast fence shall be removed.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Porter, Miller, Duke, Kerins
NOES: None
ABSENT: Bazil, Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 70-44
Applicant: Real ProDerty Manazement. Inc.
The Acting Secretary, Richard
Harlow, informed the Commission that according to their
request, the findingsof fact for Conditional Exception
No. 70-44, which is to be transmitted back to the City
Council, was prepared by the staff and that a copy of
the letter was before them for their review to determine
that all the findings were consistent with those speci-
fied by the Commission.
It was the consensus of the
Commission that the findings stated in the letter were
the same as the findings relied upon to render their
decision. The findings are as follows:
1. Because commercial boat slips and high rise buildings
are not permitted in any zone, the applicant was ad-
vised by the Planning Department to submit a conditional
exception application covering the entire project.
2. The conditional exception was accompanied by an appli-
cation to rezone the property so as to permit the pro-
posed project.
3. To avoid speculative zoning, the Planning Commission
in the past has withheld action on a zone case when
processed concurrently with a conditional exception.
The zone case is later approved when the project'is
under construction.
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Minutes: II.B. Planning Commission - Study Session
October 27, 1970
Page 4
4. The conditional exception procedure assures surround-
ing property owners that the property will be developed
in the manner prescribed by the applicant. A zone
change does not provide this guarantee.
5. Approximately 15 acres of the property is designated
for medium density residential development. Most
new apartment projects in medium density areas are
developed at a density of 25 units per acre. This
density on the 15 acres in question would result in
375 units. The applicant proposes to construct 378
units; thus, this proposed density complies with the
Master Plan of Land Use.
6. Property to the northwest is zoned for commercial and
high density development.
7. The plan provides a transition in density from the
single family area along the southeasterly portion
of the property to the highest density along the
northwesterly portion on the property. This transition
provides the best protection for residents across the
channel to the southeast which would not be provided
if the property were to develop to one density as per-
mitted on the Master Plan of Land Use.
8. The plan includes a proposal to develop a water
oriented commercial development. This orientation
results in a reduction of land area necessitating
the use of high rise buildings.
9. A transition in building height has been provided.
10. A development of this nature will bring substantial
tax benefits to the City.
11. The development will upgrade the area and be an asset
to the City.
12. It will serve as a landmark at the northerly entrance
on Pacific Coast Highway.
The Acting Secretary requested
that a motion be_ made to reflect this_ opinion.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS
AND SECONDED BY PORTER TO APPROVE THE FINDINGS OF FACT FOR
THE FOLLOWING REASONS:
A. There are special circumstances or conditions affecting
said property, and
B. The exception is necessary for the preservation of
enjoyment of a substantial property right of the peti-
tioner, and
C. The granting of the exception will not be detrimental
to the public welfare or injurious to other property
in the vicinity in which said property is situated.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Porter, Kerins
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates, Miller
ABSTAINED:, Duke
THE MOTION CARRIED.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS,
THEE=TING WAS ADJOURNED.
A. Reyno og ates
Secretary Chairman
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