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HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
Council Chambers, Civic Center
Huntington Beach, California
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 17, 1970
NOTE: A tape recording of this meeting is on file
in the Planning Department Office.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT:
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT:
Bazil, Higgins, Porter, Slates,
Miller, Duke, Kerins
None
MINUTES: On motion by Bazil and seconded by Miller,
the minutes of July 21, August 11 and 18,
1970, were accepted as transcribed and
mailed by the Secretary.
AGENDA ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED OR WITHDRAWN:
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 5963
In Conjunction With
USE PERMIT NO. 70-42
Applicant: Huntington Harbour Corp.
To allow the construction of a 59
unit planned residential development on approximately 8.18
acre parcel of land in the R1 Single Family Residence District.
Located on the southwest corner of the intersection of Say-
brook Lane and Humboldt Dr.
The Acting Secretary advised the
Commission that the applicant has requested continuance of
these items for two weeks to allow time to submit a revised
map.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY PORTER AND
SECONDED BY KERINS TO CONTINUE TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 5963
AND USE PERMIT NO. 70-42 TO THE DECEMBER 15, 1970 MEETING.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Higgins, Slates, Miller, Porter, Kerins, Duke
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 5419 - 10 lots on 150.4 acres
In Conjunction With
USE PERMIT NO. 70-43
Subdivider: Signal -Landmark, Inc.
To allow the construction of a 1404
unit planned residential development on approximately 140.3
acres of land in the R1 Single Family Residence District.
Located on the northeast corner of Atlanta Ave. and Newland St.
The Chairman read the request.
The Acting Secretary advised that a
communication had been received from the City Attorney's
office requesting that a condition of approval be that any
change in the required minimum age_for residency in the
development be approved by the City Council.
The hearing was opened to the audience.
Mr. William Shattuck, representing
the applicant, made a presentation and stated the applicant
feels there is a need for a development of this type in
Huntington Beach and that the open space needed for this
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type of development is less than that needed for a develop-
ment,which has children. He explained that the streets,
open pace, etc., would be maintained at the residents'
expense'°,,guard service would be provided allowing only
resider-U or authorized guests to enter the development;
also, an emergency medical facility would be available.
He also stated that this would be a $35,000,000 develop-
ment creating approximately $700,000 revenue for the City.
This project would be completed in 8 phases.
Commissioner Bazil asked
if the phasing of the development could be in such a
manner that if the project were terminated, the undeveloped
land would remain in a saleable condition or -developed
in another manner. Mr. Shattuck informed the Commission
that all improvements and utilities for the entire develop-
ment would be installed with the first phase, but that
he feels there is no risk that the project will not go
as the company is strong enough to withstand most diffi-
culties.
Commissioner Kerins ques-
tioned the size of the units and the monthly payments.
Mr. Shattuck advised that the units would vary from approxi-
mately 850 to 950 square feet per unit for the 1 bedroom
and 2 bedroom units. The monthly payments would be under
$300. The price range for the units would be approximately
$19,000 to $50,000.
Commissioner Duke asked if
the entire residential area would be walled initially.
Mr. Shattuck answered, "yes". Commissioner Duke stated
he would like to see additional renderings to assure a
high standard of development. Chairman Slates advised the
Commission that at the subdivision committee meeting, the
wall was discussed.
Commissioner Porter asked
Mr. Shattuck if they were agreeable to the CC& R's stating
an age limit; the reply being "yes". Commissioner Porter
al'so questioned the type of financing that -would be used.
Mr. Shattuck stated that it would most likely be conventional
financing, not governmental, but that he would not like to
make a commitment at this time.
Mr. Mike Fournier asked if
the City feels a need to develop vacant area such as this
and how would it be maintained. Mr. Shattuck stated that
the owner wishes to develop the property at this time and
the project would be maintained by the residents when com-
pleted. Mr. Fournier then questioned the subject of school
bond problems as all residents within the development would
be over the age of 45, they would probably not be interested
in schools and therefore the school bonds would be voted
down. Mr. Shattuck stated that funds for schools would be
covered in taxes. Chairman Slates stated that 54% of taxes
franthis project is for schools. Mr. Fournier then asked
if subleasing would be permitted and Mr. Shattuck advised
this would be permitted and would be covered under the
CC&R's.
Mr. Richard Armendariz asked
what will happen with these multiple dwellings in the fu-
ture as condominiums do not generally increase in value.
He stated he is opposed to multiple development where single
family homes have been master planned, and would like to
know more of what effectthis would have on the nearby com-
munity.
Mr. E. Gubeman asked what
needs of the people this development would fulfill. Also,
with unemployment steadily increasing, and as apartments
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may remain empty, will the developer request a change of
occupancy requirement to allow children.
Marilyn Knowles asked if the school
site planned within this area would be dropped.
Chairman Slates advised that this
map had been reviewed with the elementary school district
and the school district had no objection.
The Acting Secretary advised that
the elementary school site would be dropped if agreeable
with the school district.
Commissioner Porter advised that
there would be a projected 700 school children in the.area
if developed as R1; however, if an adult community, there
would be none.
Marilyn Knowles stated she under-
stood that the school bond recently passed was to help eli-
minate the overcrowded conditions of the other schools and
dropping this school would not eliminate the overcrowded
condition.
Commissioner Kerins explained that
the school bond did not cover this proposed site.
The Acting Secretary explained that
the proposed junior high school site would be somewhere in
the area along Newland Ave.
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Rick Hudson stated that he was op-
posed to the development.
Steven J. Liodas questioned financ-
ing of the development. He stated that most large companies
are financing through FHA and that this is prime property
surrounded by top-notch homes and we should not put in this
type of development. He stated he is also concerned about
taxes and school bonds.
_ Chairman Slates clarified that this
request is not a zone change but is a permitted use under
the Planned Residential Development ordinance. The request
is for a planned residential development with approximately
10 units per acre.
Patricia Marquez asked if the Com-
mission could guarantee that at a future time this would
not be rezoned to allow children.
Chairman Slates stated that this could
not be guaranteed because all laws can be changed but that
the CC&R's will stipulate an age limit and these are seldom
changed.
The Acting Secretary explained that
the City uuuld be a part of the CC&R's and any change would
require City approval.
B. Tucker asked if the residents
would maintain the property at their own expense, will the
City rebate some of their taxes and could the residents
vote in their own council and possibly change laws. Chair-
man Slates advised it would be possible to vote in their
own councilmen.
R. W. Moodie stated he felt that
this project would be downgrading the area and that he is
opposed to walled areas as these residents areconcerned
about the rest of the City.
Commissioner Bazil explained the
Planned Residential Development ordinance and stated that
the developers arguments are that there would be less in-
habitants within this project as there would be no children.
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S. Allerton asked what the
need was for this type of development.
' George Budris stated he is
concerned with resale of the surrounding property, isolation
of the development and the effect on the rest of Huntington
Beach.
F. B. Malloy stated this de-
velopment would not benefit Huntington Beach, but perhaps a
swinging singles would.
G. E. Sensenback stated he
felt that approval of this development would have lack of
direction for the City.
Jim Hazelton asked if our
Fire and Public Works Departments were capable of handling
this development.
Chairman Slates stated that
the Fire Department has no objection to the development and
can handle sufficiently any problems which might arise; also,
the developer will pay for the improvements and any water used
would be paid for by the developer or the residents. Park
and Recreation fees would be paid for by the developer and
there would be property taxes.
Commissioner Bazil stated
that the developer's contention is that there will be less
open space needed for the 10 unit-s than for the allowed 7
units per acre since there will be no children.
Chief Spickard of'the Fire
Department stated that the streets will be of adequate width
and there will be 24 hour access.
Carol Beatly stated she was
concerned with trafficconjestion and the amount of lot
coverage. ,
Chairman Slates stated that
approximately 26% of the acreage would be covered with
buildings excluding the streets.
Charles Spencer of the Public
Works Department advised that this development would generate
less traffic than a standard R1 development because a standard
RI development would have an average of 10 trips per day,
whereas, a senior citizen development would have an average
of 4 2 trips per day.
Jack King asked if the de-
veloper should submit an alternative plan. Chairman Slates
advised that this is not regiired.
Arnold Gayn stated he is
opposed and asked the Commission to see that the code is
upheld. He objects to walled communities.
Chuck Palmer, Huntington
Beach School District, gave an opinion of the school district.
He stated that this project will reduce the cost to the
school district and will reduce the necessity of a $1,250,000
elementary school site. There is a proposed 15 acre junior
high school within the 150 acre area.
There being no further comment,
the hearing was closed.
-Commission discussion was
held regarding density, traffic, schools, minimum age limit,
walls, crime, etc.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES
AND SECONDED BY PORTER TO APPROVE USE PERMIT NO. 70-43 UPON
THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
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1. The Tentative Tract Map received November 5, 1970,
the schematic of the overall plan for the use permit
submitted on October 16, 1970 and the specific plan
for phase 1 received November 3, 1970, shall be the
approved layout. Approval of the overall schematic
of the use permit is general in nature and a specific
plan for each phase shall be submitted for final re-
view by the Planning Commission prior to a final map
being submitted -to the City Council for acceptance.,
2. The question of whether or not the proposed 10 acre
elementary school site, the 15 acre jr. high school
site, and the 3 acre park site will be required,
shall be resolved prior to a final map being recorded
on phase 2 or building permits issued for any construction
within phase 2. In the event a school site and park site
are required, a revised overall plan shall be submitted
to the Planning Commission for approval.
3. The conditions, covenants and restrictions shall contain
a provision that will require the entire 133.3 acres of
residential property to remain as an adult community in
perpetuity restricting the age of 45. The City shall be
a party to such CC&R's. The wording of such provisions
shall be approved by the Planning Department and City
Attorney's office.
4. Fire alarm boxes shall be provided at each of the guard
houses. The gates located at each of the guard houses
shall be open on a 24 hour basis.
5. No speed bumps shall be installed on the main street.
6. Each phase shall stand on its own with regard to all
requirements of the Huntington Beach Ordinance Code.
7. Detailed plans of the recreation area shall be submitted
to the Planning Commission for review and approval prior
to issuance of building permits on the first phase.
8. Parking assignments for each of the residential units
shall be submitted to the Planning Department for appro-
val prior to issuance of building permits.
9. If the school site shown on the plan is to remain then
an additional 3 acres shall be provided for City park
purposes.
10. All streets within the project shall be private streets.
11. The design of the intersection of the private streets with
public streets shall be approved by the Department of
Public Works.
12. If the sewer and water facilities are to be dedicated
to the City, a 10 ft. wide easement shall be dedicated
to the City for access and maintenance of such sewer and water
facilities.
13. Tree planting equivalent to one 30 inch box tree per unit
shall be provided. A plan showing such tree planting
plan shall be approved by the Planning Department and
Department of Public Works.
14. A plan showing the wall design and landscape plan along
all arterial highways shall be submitted to the Planning
Commission and Department of Public Works for approval
prior to issuance of building permits.
15. Provisions shall be made to provide facilities for
storage of equipment and materials required by the
association for maintenance of the project. Such areas
shall be shown on the plot plan prior to issuance of
building permits.
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16. All "Standard Conditions of Approval" for tentative
tracts that are applicable shall be complied with.
17. Design of the carports shall be approved by the
Board of Zoning Adjustments.
FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS:
1. Because this is an adult community, the overall popu-
lation density will be less than the density of a
standard Planned Residential Development having 7.25
units per acre.
2. Lot coverage is 26% which is less than a standard
single family residential development.
3. Access to the property can be restricted because it
is a private adult development with entrance guards.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Slates, Miller, Higgins, Kerins, Porter
NOES: Duke
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
Additional Information: Commissioner Duke stated that the
planned rest entia ordinance is a new ordinance and the
Commission has not had enough experience to allow this
kind of development under a use permit application. Mr. Duke
also felt that the Commission,should give the requests fur-
ther study before voting.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY MILLER
AND SECONDED BY PORTER TO APPROVE TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 5419
UPON THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. The Tentative Tract Map received November 5, 1970,
the schematic of the overall plan for the use permit
submitted on October 16, 1970, and the specific plan
for phase 1 received November 3, 1970, shall be the
approved layout. Approval of the overall schematic of
the use permit is general in nature and a specific plan
for each phase shall be submitted for final review by the
Planning Commission prior to a final map being submitted -
to the City Council for acceptance.
2. The question of whether or not the proposed 10 acre ele-
mentary school site, the 15 acre jr. high school site,
and the 3 acre park site will be required, shall be re-
solved prior to a final map being recorded on phase 2
or building permits issued for any construction within
phase 2. In the event a school site and park site are
required, a revised overall plan shall be submitted to
the Planning Commission for approval.
3. The conditions, covenants and restrictions shall contain
a provision that will require the entire 133.3 acres
of residential property to remain as an adult community -
in perpetuity restricting the age to 45. The City shall
be a party to such CC&R's. The wording of such provi-
sions shall be approved by the Planning Department and
City.•Attorney's office.
4. Fire alarm boxes shall be provided at each of the guard
houses. The gates located at each of the guard houses
shall be open on a 24 hour basis.
5. No speed bumps shall be installed on the main street.
6. Each phase shall stand on its own with regard to all
requirements of the Huntington Beach Ordinance Code.
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7. Detailed plans of the recreation area shall be submitted
to the Planning Commission for review and approval prior
to issuance of building permits on the first phase.
8. Parking assignments for each of the residential units
shall be submitted to the Planning Department for appro-
val prior to issuance of building permits.
9. If the school site shown on the plan is to remain then
an additional 3 acres shall be provided for City park
purposes.
10. All streets within the project shall be private streets.
11. The design of the intersection of the private streets
with public streets shall be approved by the Department
of Public Works.
12. If the sewer and water facilities are to be dedicated
to the City, a 10 ft. wide easement shall be dedicated
to the City for access and maintenance of such sewer
and water facilities.
13. Tree planting equivalent to one 30 inch box tree per
unit shall be provided. A plan showing such tree
planting plan shall be approved by the Planning Depart-
ment and Department of Public Works.
14. A plan showing the wall design and landscape plan along
all arterial highways shall be submitted to the Planning
Commission and Department of Public Works for approval
prior to issuance of building permits.
15. Provisions shall be made to provide facilities for storage
of equipment and materials required by the association for
maintenance of the project. Such areas shall be shown
on the plot plan prior to issuance of building permits.
16. All "Standard Conditions of Approval" for tentative
tracts that are applicable shall be complied with.
17. Design of the carports shall be approved by the Board
of Zoning Adjustments.
FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS:
1. Because this is an adult community, the overall popula-
tion density will be less than the density of a standard
Planned Residential Development having 7.25 units per
acre.
2. Lot coverage is 26% which is less than a standard single
family residential development.
3. Access to the property can be restricted because it is
a private adult development with entrance guards.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Slates, Miller, Higgins, Kerins, Porter, Duke
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
RECESS: The Chairman called a recess at 9:00 P.M.
RECONVENE: The meeting reconvened at 9:10 P.M. Vice -Chairman
Porter took the Chair in Chairman Slates' absence.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 4663
Subdivider: The Covington Bros.
38 lots on 10 acres located 660 ft.
east of Beach Blvd., south of Ellis Ave.
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The Vice -Chairman read the
request.
The Acting Secretary advised
that the alley access is provided as required by the suggested
conditions of approval by the Subdivision Committee but the street
width may be reduced. At this time, it is proposed to reduce
the street width to 54 ft.
The suggested conditions of
approval were reviewed and amended. Discussion was held regard-
ing the street layout and drainage.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY DUKE AND
SECONDED BY MILLER TO APPROVE TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 4663 SUBJECT
TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. The Tentative Map received November 17, 1970, shall be the
approved layout.
2. Drainage of the property shall be approved by the Depart-
ment of Public Works. Also, should the Department of
Public Works find it necessary, no building permits shall
be issued for lots 18, 19, 20 and 21 until clearance has
been given by the Department of Public Works.
3. All "Standard Conditions of Approval" for tentative tract
maps that are applicable shall be complied with.
ROLL CALL VOTE
AYES: Bazil, Higgins, Porter, Miller, Duke, Kerins
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
ZONE CASE NO. 70-22 - RESOLUTION OF INTENT
Change of zone from C2 Commu-
nity Business District to R1 Single Family Residence District.
The subject property is located on the west side of Goldenwest
Street, approximately 800 ft. south of Warner Ave.
The Vice -Chairman read the
request.
A video tape was shown of the
subject area. The Acting Secretary advised that the subject
property was zoned commercial in 1966.
The hearing was opened to the
audience.
Mr. James Starr, attorney re-
presenting the property owner, addressed the Commission and
filed an amendment to his previous statement of objections
to the hearing and rezoning.
Discussion was held.
Attorney James Starr stated
that his client is particularly concerned with this zone
change request as he has not at this time recovered his
investment and does not want to vacate the existing nursery.
Commissioner Duke explained
that under the non -conforming provisions of the code, the
property owner is protected so that he may continue to operate
the nursery as long as he wishes but that he may not be able to
change the type of use. Mr. Starr stated that he feels that
this would still greatly limit the use of the property as it
could not be expanded to another use, etc._ He also stated
that he felt R5 zoning might be compatible with the area and
would not "tie his hands".
ing to various uses and zoning.
ment, the hearing was closed.
Discussion was held pertain -
There being no further com-
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CommLS5ion di,,cii�,5ion was lie Id.
Commissioner Bazil slated lie feIL
R5 might l?e a fair compromise as the City Council did give
the property a certain increase in value by zoning it com-
mercial.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY BAZIL AND
SECONDED BY PORTER TO READVERTISE THIS REQUEST FOR R5 OFFICE
PROFESSIONAL ZONING.
TROLL CALL VOTE:
-AYES: Bazil, Higgins, Porter, Miller, Duke, Kerins
"NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
ZONE CHANGE NO. 70-20
Applicant: Mr. & Mrs. David Meredith
Change of zone from M1 Light Indus-
trial District to MH - Mobilehome District.
In Conjunction With
CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 70-52
Applicant: Mr. & Mrs. David Meredith
To permit the construction of a 137
space mobilehome park on a 20 acre parcel of land in the M1
Light Industrial District. Located on the south side of
Slater Ave., approximately 660 ft. east of Gothard St.
This item was tabled until later in
the meeting at the request of Joe Evans, representing the
applicant, to allow the applicant time to arrive.
USE PERMIT NO. 70-52 (Referred by the Board of Zoning Adjust-
ments)
Applicant: Robert Owens
To permit construction of a self
service car wash in the C4 Highway Commercial District.
Located on the west side of Beach Blvd., approximately 900
feet south of Ellis Ave.
The Vice -Chairman read the request.
A video tape of the subject area was shown.
The hearing was opened to the
audience.
Robert Owens, agent for Century Car
Wash, addressed the Commission and explained the request. lie
stated that they proposed slumpstone construction. He also
showed photos of similar structures. He stated this would
be strictly a car wash with no selling of gas.
Commissioner Duke requested render-
ings of the signs to be use; however, the applicant did not
have these available.
Mr. Palin, Acting Secretary of the
Board of Zoning Adjustment, explained the Board's action
and recommendations as to curb cuts, a common drive for all
four parcels, and stated that the plot plan does not show
all the recommendations made by the Board. He also advised
that an application for a division of land is pending before
the Board and as it -had not been filed at the same time as
the use permit, it could riot be referred up to the Commission
to be heard in conjunction with this use permit.
Mr. Owens advised the Commission that
a 15 year easement with the adjoining property has been agreed
upon.
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Commissioner Kerins inquired
if consideration was given to turning the building 90°,
Mr. Owens replied that the building'was'situated at the pro-
posed locaejon due to 'traffic flow. _
Commission discussion
followed. It was the consensus of the Commission that this
request should be continued to be heard in conjunction with
the Division of Land request.
Commissioner Bazil requested
the applicant to submit revised plans showing the Board of
Zoning Adjustments' recommendations, landscaping, and sche-
mAics of;the'building. Commissioner Porter requested that
conditionl.,f16. - 14-be;'adde-d - to the suggested conditions of
approval stating" that`there'shall be no gas sold.
- A MOTION WAS MADE BY DUKE
AND SECONDED BY K_ERINS TO CONTINUE USE PERMIT NO. 70-52 TO
THE DECEMBER 15, 1970 MEETING TO BE HEARD IN CONJUNCTION
WITH DIVISION OF LAND NO. 70-30 FOR REASONS AS PREVIOUSLY
STATED.
POLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Higgins, Porter, Miller, Duke, Kerins
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates=�-=-- ---_— - THE MOTION CARRIED.
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USE PERMIT_NO. 70=45--(Referred-_by•Board.of Zoning Adjustments)
Applicant: Gul-f"Oil Company =_ _
To permit the installation
of an automatic car washing machine in the existing handwash
bay of a service station. Located on the southwest corner of
Edinger Ave. and Sher Lane in the C2 Community Business Dis-
trict.
The Vice -Chairman read the
request. A,•video_tape was shown of the subject area.
The -hearing was opened to
the audience.__,_,
••Raymond Troutman, representing
the applicant,-addres§ed-the Commission and answered various
questions,
There being no further comment,
the hearing was closed. <
Commission discussion followed.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY BAZI1.
AND SECONDED BY DUKE TO APPROVE USE PERMIT NO. 70-45 UPON THE _
FOLLOWING CONDTTIONS:
1. There shall be two 15 gallon trees planted on the rear pro-
perty-
Parking shall comply with Article 979 of the Huntington.
Beach Ord inance•_Code-..
3. All applicable"p`rovis-ions" of the Service Station Standards
as adopted by the Planning Commission shall be complied
with.
4. The layout shall be such that the vehicles exiting from
the car wash will not be interfered with by outside cir-
culation.
5. Signs shall conform to Article 976 of the Huntington
Beach Ordinance Code.
6. The plot plan shall be referred to the Board of Zoning
Adjustments for review and,to establish conditions of
approval as deemed necessary.
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FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON:
1. The use is associated with the service station and will
be an asset to the City.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Higgins, Porter, Miller, Duke, Kerins
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 70-53
Applicant: R. C. Curry & J. E. Wheelhouse
To permit expansion of an existing
retail nursery in the R1 Single Family Residence District.
Located on the east side of Bolsa Chica St., 150 ft. south
of Pearce Ave.
The Vice -Chairman read the request.
A video tape of the subject area
was shown.
The hearing was opened to the audience.
Mr. J. E. Wheelhouse addressed the
Commission and explained the request.
There being no further comment, the
hearing was closed. '
Commission discussion followed.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY DUKE AND SECONDED
BY KERINS TO APPROVE CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 70-53 UPON
THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. Conditional Exception No. 70-53 shall become null and
void on January 1, 1976 at which time the applicant may
apply for a new conditional exception if conditions in
the area have not substantially changed.
2. The expiration date of Conditional Exception No. 68-23
shall coincide with Conditional Exception No. 70-53,
January 1, 1976.
3. A more precise plot plan shall be submitted to the Board
of Zoning Adjustments for approval at which time the
Board may attach conditions of approval as deemed necessary.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Higgins, Porter, Miller, Duke, Kerins
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
The Commission submitted the following Findings of Fact:
1. The nursery needs the exposure of oncoming traffic.
2. This is a temporary use.
3. The nursery is within the airport area.
CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 70-54
Applicant: Arthur Frietsch
To permit auto dismantling and a
used parts storage yard in the M1 Light Industrial District.
Located 990 ft. south of Warner Ave. and 300 ft. east of
Gothard St.
The Vice -Chairman read the request.
A video tape of the subject area was shown.
The hearing was opened to the audience.
Mr. Frietsch, applicant, addressed
the Commission and explained the request and how the business
was operated.
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Commissioner Duke asked why
the corrugated steel fence was proposed instead of a block
wall. Mr. Frietsch replied that the fence was much cheaper
and that there are similar fences in the area.
Mr. Fred Case, partner in
the business, assured the Commission that this would be a
first class operation.
Mr. George Williams, nearby
property owner, stated he opposed the request as it would
make his home of 18 years a much less desirable place to
live. He feels this operation would be a hazard as there are
many children living in the area. Also, traffic and noise
on weekends would be greatly increased, and the applicant
is not improving the property as far as sidewalks, etc. He
further -stated that this -operation would be a 30 ft. from
his bedroom window and the noise would be disturbing.
There being no further com-
ment, the hearing was closed.
Commission discussion followed.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY DUKE
AND SECONDED BY BAZIL TO DENY CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 70-54
FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS:
1. The applicant has failed to show sufficient hardship.
2. This operation would be incompatible with the surrounding
neighborhood.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Higgins, Porter, Miller, Duke, Kerins
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 70-55
ADnlicant: Industrial Development Associates
To permit reactivation and
testing of a non -conforming oil well for a period of six
months. If well is operated economically, request is to
place said well on permanent production. Located on the
south side of Pearce Ave. and east of Algonquin St. in the
R2 Two Family Residence District.
The Vice -Chairman read the
request.
The Acting Secretary reviewed
the history of the operation. A video tape was shown of the
subject area.
Herb Day, Oil Field Superin-
tendent, stated that the applicant has had seven wells of
which 3 have been abandoned, 3 are idle and 1 is producing.
The producing well is near the subject well.
Commissioner Miller requested
a production report. Mr. Day replied that there has not
been a ,production report since 1968.
The hearing was opened to
the audience.
Mr. C. Barfield, representing
the applicant, addressed the Commission and stated that
equipment was not available to improve the surface of the
wells but that the wells are fenced. He stated that this
well was shut down due to water entering the casing and
the company did not have the equipment to repair it at that
time. He stated that they have a sub -surface lease and do
not control the entire area surrounding the wells. They
feel that this well is in a profitable position, and that
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if approved, they would beautify the area; however, if the
well does not prove to be profitable, they would then
abandon this well along with wells numbers 21 and 26 which
are also located on the subject property.
Commissioner Duke stated he was
concerned about what condition the property would be left
in if the well was abandoned.
Mac Burk, speaking for some of the
property owners in the subject area, stated that they would
like to have this well abandoned and the lease quit claimed.
He stated that they have 25% interest in the land and royalties.
Mrs. Dinsmore, having interest in
well no. 22, stated that the well has been shut down since
1968. She would like to have the well torn down if not pro-
ducing because it is a hazard and is unsightly; however, has
not been able to get any action from the applicant.
There being no further comment, the
hearing was closed.
Commission discussion followed.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND
SECONDED BY DUKE TO DENY CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 70-55
FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS:
1. The well is a non -conforming use.
2. The applicant has requested that if the well can be
operated economically, the well be placed on permanent
production.
3. The well has not been producing for a long period of
time.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Higgins, Porter, Miller, Duke, Kerins.
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
CODE AMENDMENT NO. 70-14 (Continued)
Said amendment proposes to add
Section 9730.26 to the Huntington Beach Ordinance Code.
The intent of said amendment is to provide, create and
maintain a home environment for the care of non -related
persons. For the purpose of this section the definition
of a family has been modified to eight from five. Care
of non -related may.be permitted in any residential district
subject to the approval of an Administrative Review appli-
cation by the Board of Zoning Adjustments.
The Vice -Chairman read the request
and opened the hearing to the audience.
Mr. Charles Ivy requested an ex-
planation of the amendment to the 8th draft of the proposed
code amendment. Commissioner Porter explained the amendment.
The Acting Secretary advised that a
letter had been received from the State Department of Social
Welfare and at the request of the Vice -Chairman, the letter
was read to the Commission and audience. The letter stated
that the proposed ordinance is acceptable to that agency
and encouraged adoption of the ordinance.
Nancy Turney, representing the
County of Orange Department of Social Welfare, spoke in
favor of the code amendment.
There being no further comment, the
hearing was closed.
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A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS
AND SECONDED BY DUKE TO RECOMMEND ADOPTION OF CODE AMENDMENT
NO. 70-14 AS AMENDED AND TO REFER SAID AMENDMENT TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY TO PLACE IN ORDINANCE FORM FOR TRANSMITTAL TO THE
CITY COUNCIL.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Higgins, Porter, Miller, Duke, Kerins
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 70-56
Applicant: L & G Riding Stables, Inc.
To permit boarding of horses in
the RA-0 Residential Agricultural District combined with oil
production. Located on the southwest corner of Goldenwest St.
and Ellis Ave.
The Vice -Chairman read the
request.
The Acting Secretary reviewed
a letter submitted by the Oil Field Inspector stating existing
violations on the subject property which should be corrected.
He also read a telegram from Mr. Milton H. Marow objecting -to
the request as it would create a hardship for nearby property
owners.
The hearing was opened to the
audience.
Bill Landis, property owner,
stated that he originally purchased this property because of
easy freeway access; however, the property is now within the
third phase of Central Park and thus he cannot develop it. He
stated he would like to -have the wells capped and cleaned up.
He explained that the proposed use is mainly for pony rides for
children and not so much boarding.
Ed Bennett, operator of the
stables, stated that this would,be a steel type structure and _;,"N
that 85% of their business would be children as they cater to-"
young people. :4
1,, Commissioner Bazil inquired
as to where the horses will be tidden; the reply being, on
subject property, -the pony areas will be fenced and possibly
along the street.
Discussion was held regarding
possibly restricting the use to only pony rides on subject pro-
perty because of traffic on Goldenwest St.
Mr. Bennett stated that parking
would be on Ellis Ave., not Goldenwest St.
Mr. Williams, nearby stable
operator, stated he felt it fair that this applicant have the
same conditions that were placed on his application; specifi-
cally, the requirement that additional area be provided for
horse riding.
There being no further comment,
the hearing was closed.
Commission discussion was held.
Commissioner Bazil stated he
is concerned about horses being riddan by persons who could not
control the horse in traffic.
It was felt that this item
should be continued to allow the applicant time to investigate
the possibility of supplying additional acreage for riding
purposes. The applicant was agreeable to this.
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A MOTION WAS MADE BY DUKE AND
SECONDED BY KERINS TO CONTINUE CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO.
70-56 TO THE DECEMBER 15, 1970 MEETING TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT
TIME TO ARRANGE FOR ADDITIONAL ACREAGE.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Higgins, Porter, Miller, Duke, Kerins
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 70-46 - APPEAL
Applicant: Richard D. Parry
To permit the following: 1) two (2),
24 sq. ft. in area, secondary pole signs on front and exterior
side property lines located at a distance less than 100 ft.
from the corner pole sign; 2) two (2) tire displays having
more than the ten (10) tires permitted by the Huntington
Beach Ordinance Code. Located on the southeast corner of
Beach Blvd. and Ellis Ave. in the C4 Highway Commercial
District.
The Vice -Chairman read the request
and opened the hearing to the audience.
There being no comment, the hearing
was closed.
Commission discussion was held.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY BAZIL AND
SECONDED BY MILLER TO SUSTAIN THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENTS'
DECISION TO DENY CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 70-46 FOR THE
FOLLOWING REASONS:
1. The plot plan submitted with the application has not
shown landscaping, driveways, parking, etc.
2. Said plans did not show type or'color of materials
used on existing building.
3. The applicant would not indicate his preference as to
a location for the tire storage structure.
4. The applicant requested a decision on this application
in its entirety and expressed his unwillingness to
work with the Board on design and materials to be used
in a tire storage structure.
5. The sign ordinance provides sufficient area to properly
identify the service station.
6. The applicant was not present to show hardship.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Higgins, Porter, Miller, Duke, Kerins
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 70-44 - APPEAL
Applicant: Richard D. Parry
To permit the following: 1) two
(2), 24 sq. ft. in area, secondary pole signs on front and
exterior side property lines located at a distance less than
100 ft. from the corner pole sign; 2) two (2) tire displays
having more than the ten (10) tires permitted by the Huntington
Beach Ordinance Code; 3) a number of pennants to be used as
a permanent display from light standards to main structure in
lieu of such signs being used as temporary signs for special
events such as grand opening, change of ownership, etc.
Located on the northwest corner of Beach Blvd. and Warner Ave.
in the C4 Highway Commercial District.
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The Vice -Chairman read
the 'request.
Commission discussion
was held.
The hearing was opened
to the audience. There being no comment, and the applicant
not present, the hearing was closed.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY
BAZIL AND SECONDED BY KERINS TO SUSTAIN THE BOARD OF ZONING
ADJUSTMENTS DECISION AND ADD THE CONDITION:
1. Any signs placed on the storage structure shall be ap-
proved by the Board of Zoning Adjustments.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Higgins, Porter, Miller, Duke, Kerins
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
ZONE CHANGE NO. 70-20 - Continued from earlier in the meet-
ing.
Applicant: Mr. & Mrs. David Meredith
In Conjunction With
CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 70-52
Applicant: Mr. & Mrs. -David Meredith
Mr. Joe Evans addressed
the Commission and requested a continuance of these items
until the December 1, 1970, meeting so that the applicant may
attend.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY.DUKE
AND SECONDED BY MILLER TO -CONTINUE ZONE CHANGE NO. 70-20 AND
CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 70-52 TO THE DECEMBER 1, 1970, MEET-
ING AT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Porter, Miller, Duke, Kerins
NOES: None '
ABSENT: Slates
ABSTAIN: Bazil
THE MOTION CARRIED.
MISCELLANEOUS:
A letter for substitute fencing materials
pursuant to Sec. 9682.6 of H.B. Ordinance
Code.
Letter request from '
Standard Oil Company as to type of wall material for oil opera-
tion sites as covered in Use Permits 70-46, 70-47 and 70-56.
Located: 1) Southwest of Garfield & Goldenwest St.
2) Bounded on north by Clay; on south by
Mansion; on east by Southern Pacific
right-of-way; on the west by Main St.
3) South side of Palm Ave., 4 mi. west
of Goldenwest St.
Mr. Baxter Brown, re-
presenting Standard Oil Co., addressed the Commission and
reviewed the letter previously submitted to them. He stated
that they would like to construct a chain link fence in place
of the masonry block wall as required per Section 9682.6 of
the Huntington Beach Ordinance Code for an oil operation site.
It was the consensus of
the Commission that these requests should be continued until
December 1, 1970 to allow the staff time to prepare a report.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Porter, Miller, Duke, Kerins
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
ABSTAINED: Higgins
THE MOTION CARRIED.
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THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED
TO A DINNER MEETING TO BE HELD ON NOVEMBER 23, 1970.
Secretary
Roger . Slates
Chairm n
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Vice -Chairman
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