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HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
Council Chambers, Civic Center
Huntington Beach, California
- TUESDAY, MAY 4, 1971
NOTE: A TAPE RECORDING OF THIS FETING IS ON
FILE IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT OFFICE
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COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Higgins, Bazil, Porter, Miller, Kerins
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Slates, Duke
ZONE CASE NO, 70-13 - Continued
Applicant: Gulf Oil Corporation
To permit a change of zone from R1 Single
Family Residence District and C4 Highway Commercial District,to R1
Single Family Residence District and R3 Limited Multiple Family Residence
District, R4 Multiple Family Residence District and C4 Highway Commercial
District with a 50 ft. setback from the ultimate right-of-way line.
The subject property is located on the north-
westerly corner of Pacific Coast Highway and Admiralty Drive.
The Vice Chairman read the request.
The Acting Secretary advised that this item
had been continued from the Planning Commission meeting of April 6, 1971,
at the request of the City Attorney's office to allow -time for the court
to reader a decision on the pending law suit. He advised that a decision
had not been rendered, therefore, the Staff recommends continuance until
June 1, 1971.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY BAZIL AND SECONDED BY
MILLER TO CONTINUE ZONE CASE NO. 70-13 TO JUNE 19-1971, TO ALLOW TIME
FOR THE COURT TO RENDER A DECISION ON THE PENDING LAW SUIT.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Miller, Porter, Higgins
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates, Duke, Kerins
THE MOTION CARRIED.
CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 71-1 - Continued
Applicant: Fredricks Development Corp.
To permit the construction of a 250 unit apart-
ment complex on approximately 8 ac. parcel of land with the following
exception:
1. Averaging of density between the R2 and R3 portion of subject parcel;
2. Construction of carports at zero setback along the south and west
property line in lieu of the required 5 ft. setback along the south
and 10 ft. setback along the west property lines;
3. Open carports in lieu of garages within the R2 portion of said
development.
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Minutes: H.B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, May 4, 1971
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The subject property is located on the
southwest corner of Atlanta Avenue and Newland Street in the R2 Two Family
Residence District, R3 Limited Multiple Family Residence District and R3-0
Limited Multiple Family Residence District Combined with oil production.
The Vice Chairman read the request.
The Acting Secretary advised that
this item had been continued for decision only. He also advised that the
applicant has submitted revised plot plans.
Jim Palin, Associate Planner, reviewed
the revised plans with the Commission, and advised that 234 units are pro-
posed, 184 units in the R3 portion and 50 units in the R2 portion.
COMMISSIONER KERINS: Commilssioner Kerins arrived at 7:20 P.M. and assumed
his duties.
Commissioner Porter stated he felt
the proposed open space is insufficient and that each zone should stand on
its own with no averaging of the densities.
Commissioner Bazil stated he felt
the Commission could not require the applicant to meet the present apartment
standards since this development has been under way for approximately one year.
The Acting Secretary aavisea that the
aeveloper is not asking for averaging of densities on this new plan.
Commissioner Bazil stated he felt
there is sufficient open space in the R2 zone.
Commissioner Bazil.
Commissioner Miller concurred with
Discussion was held.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY HIGGINS AND
SECONDED BY MILLER TO APPROVE CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 71-1 SUBJECT TO
THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. The plot plan received April 30, 1971, shall be the approved layout.
2. Elevations shall be'substantially as shown on renderings submitted
by the developer on May 4, 1971.
3. The developer shall work with the City in an attempt to include the
private street along the west property line within the project as
open space.
4. The plot plan shall be referred to the Board of Zoning Adjustments
to establish conditions of approval as deemed necessary.
FOR THE REASONS:
1. As this complex will be developed as one project, there is no need for
garage doors on one street and not on the other.
2. The applicant is no•longer requesting averaging of density between the
R2 `and R3 portions of the project.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Miller, Higgins, Kerins
NOES: Porter
ABSENT: Slates, Duke
THE MOTION CARRIED.
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Tuesday, May 4, 1971
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MINORITY REPORT SUBMITTED BY COMMISSIONER PORTER:
When the applicant appeared before the Commission
he was informed that his request for density averaging under Conditional
Exception No. 71-1 as requested would allow an R3 density in excess of the
current citywide average of 26 units per acre and that averaging was en-
couraged on split zone properties to make better use of the land and provide
continuity in development, open space and recreational area, not just allow
higher density as he had requested. This contention was borne out by the - -
staff figures on open space in the project which worked out to just over'the
absolute minimum for the units projected. (This was determined using the
established calculation method which excludes the 10 feet adjacent to dwelling
units.) The applicant was informed by the Commission that a lower overall
density reflecting the averages we were experiencing citywide was more
acceptable and would provide a better distributed development with respect
to open space and reduce current objections to unduly high density in apart-
ment projects. It was suggested that to take advantage of density averaging
to the mutual benefit of both the city and the applicant, the project should
contain no more than 210 units rather than the 246 units as proposed. The
applicant indicated he would rather develop the project within the current
zoning limitations than having to reduce the density to the amount indicated (210
The Commission continued the matter to allow the applicant time to revise
his plot plan and present renderings of the exterior of the project. The
matter was continued to the meeting of May 4, 1971.
At the May 4th meeting the applicant displayed a plot plan reflecting a
reduction of 10 units in the R2 portion and 2 units in the R3 portion of
the development. The plot plan reflected very little change in building:
location or improved utilization of open space. Staff was questioned about
open space as calculated for the two separate zone parcels. Their response
indicated that the applicant was short 2000 square feet in the R3 portion
of the project which bore out the earlier contention that open space in the
project was poorly distributed. (There was considerable excess in the
R2 portion).
In view of the past concerns of the Commission with relation to density
averaging and open space provided thereby, as in the Macco apartment pro-
ject, it is felt that this project does not reflect the intent of that
provision.
Furthermore, as the applicant has chosen to proceed with his development along
present zoning guidelines, he should meet the minimum standards as they are
currently applied to all developments. This has not been done. It will re-
quire a major revision of the plot plan to accomplish this, or the reduction
of a minimum of 10 additional units in the R3 portion of the property to
comply with minimum open space requirements.
Averaging would produce a better development but not just as an excuse to
get R3 yield:on R2 property. This can only be accomplished with a more
evenly distributed building plan.
Finally, in view of the density and development recommendations of the Multi -
Density Study Committee of this city, this project is not consistent with
those recommendations or the pending ordinance governing those standards.
To continue to make exception to those standards only serves to nullify
the efforts made to bring them about and diminishes the confidence the public
has placed with the city in resolving a serious problem. Developers should
begin to realize this.
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Tuesday, May 4, 1971
Page No. 4
CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 71-21 (Continued)
Applicant: Marvin R. Haney DBA Scrubby Bear
To permit a travel trailer and re-
creational vehicle park to be established on the total block.
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' The subject property is located at
and bounded by 13th Street on the north, 12th Street on the south, Walnut
Avenue on the east and Pacific Coast Highway on the west. The property is
zoned C3 General Business District and R4 Multiple Family Residence District.
This item had been continued to allow
the Commission time to review similar facilities. -
The Vice Chairman read the request.
The Acting Secretary advised the
Planning Commission -that he and Commissioner Duke had reviewed several
similar facilities with the applicant. He advised that the average densities
for these facilities was 28 units per acre and that the applicant is proposing
49 units per acre. -The City of Anaheim requires 800 sq. ft. plus 50 sq. ft.
of recreational area per -space, or 28 units per acre. The Acting Secretary
further stated that the Staff feels this is not the best_ location for this
use and recommends -a reduction in density.
The Commission was advised that the
public hearing had been closed and this item was continued for decision only.
He stated that the Staff feels the lot should be paved, planter areas provided
at each space, and the perimeter wall should be of more substantial material
than wood._ Also, that the use if approved, should be granted for a period
of less than 10 years.
Commissioner Bazil stated that he feels
the applicant may not be able to afford to construct a first line park for a
period of less than 10 years.
Commissioner Miller stated he feels
the proposed location is not suitable for this use and concurs with the Staff
that the use should be approved for a lesser period of time than 10-years.--
The hearing was reopened to the audience.
Mr. Willard Harris, partner in pro-
posed park, submitted an elevation of the proposed use as viewed from 12th
Street and stated that the same would be a combination of wood and stone.
Mr. Henry Hastings, Walters and Son, Inc.
representing the applicant, stated they did not propose a recreational area
in the park as people would be using the beach area.
Commissioner Higgins questioned the
dimensions of the spaces in the proposed park.
- Mr. Hastings stated that whereas Vaca-
tionland'has 22 ft. wide spaces, they are proposing 14 ft. wide spaces since
they will not have patios and side yards because of the nearby beach.
Commissioner Miller asked the applicant
if he would agree with approval for less than 10 years.
Mr. Harris stated that they have a five
year lease with 5 one-year options and preferred to have approval for 10 years.
and spaces would be paved.
be more landscaping provided.
Mr. Hastings stated that the drives
Commissioner Bazil felt there should
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Mr. Tom Mills addressed the Commission and stated
he is opposed to the proposed location, that it should not be in a residential
area. He feels this use will attract undesirable elements in the off seasons.
Charlene Bauer, nearby property owner, stated that
she concurs with Mr. Mills and she feels that if the park is approved re-
quirements should be made which would result in a nicer park. She also
stated that people not accustomed to the beach sun cannot stay in the sun
and wind all day, therefore, recreational areas are needed in the park. The
park also needs eating areas and an area in which to rinse out sandy clothes
and swim suits.
Mr. Painter addressed the Commission and stated
he is opposed to a temporary use as this area is presently in transition
and this use would retard the development.
Mr. John A. Galkin, nearby property owner, stated
he is opposed as undesirable elements would be attracted, and traffic hazard
would arise with children crossing Pacific Coast Highway where there are no
crosswalks.
Doris L. Brown, addressed the Commission and
stated she is opposed as the use will attract undesirable people.
Barbara Simond addressed the Commission and
stated she is opposed to the location of the use, and the traffic hazard
which it would create.
There being no other comment, the hearing was
closed.
Commissioner Kerins stated he feels this location
is not suitable for this use and that allowing this temporary use at that
location would retard the development of the surrounding area.
Commissioner Higgins stated he feels this
location improper as it is not compatible with the surrounding residential area.
Commissioner Bazil stated he feels this use
would be an asset to the City if at a more suitable location as there is
insufficient room to provide recreational areas, landscaping and improvements.
Commissioner Miller stated he feels the location
is unsuitable but feels the subject property owner would require any develop-
ment on the property to be first rate.
Vice -Chairman Porter stated he feels a recrea-
tional area is needed within the'confines of the facility, and that the
location should be near signal controls to cross Pacific Coast Highway.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY
BAZIL TO DENY CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 71-21 FOR THE REASONS:
1. The location is not suitable due to the close proximity of
residential uses.
2. The facility lacks recreational areas.
3. The number of spaces per acre is too high.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Higgins, Porter, Miller, Kerins
NOES: None
ABSENT: Duke, Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
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Tuesday, May 4, 1971
Page No. 6
ZONE CASE NO. 71-8
Applicant: Frank M. Doyle
To permit a change of zone from RA
Residential Agricultural District to C2 Community Business District with
a 50 ft. setback from the ultimate right-of-way line.
The subject property is located on
the southeast corner of Edinger Avenue and Goldenwest Street.
The Vice -Chairman read the request.
The Staff showed vu-graphs of the
subject area.
The Acting Secretary advised the
Commission that the Staff recommends approval for a change of zone to C4
rather than the requested C2. He advised that for C4, a use permit is
needed and due to the close proximity to Goldenwest College this procedure
is advisable.
The hearing was opened to the audience.
Mr. Glen Busby, applicant, addressed
the Commission and explained the request.
There being no other comment, the � -
hearing was closed.
Commissioner Kerins stated he would like
a Use Permit application to be required in conjunction with the zone change.
Commissioner Higgins stated he concurs
with Commissioner Kerins. He stated that he feels C4 is not necessarily
the best zone and that whatever use is permitted, it should be under very
stringent review.
Mr. Ken Reynolds, Planning Director,
stated that the applicant applied for this zone change under his suggestion
that the applicant develope the entire area at one time rather than parcel,
by parcel.
Commissioner Bazil stated that requir-
ing the applicant to file for a use permit prior to the zone change may
present a hardship on the applicant as financers usually require the pro-,
perty to be properly zoned before they will talk to a developer.-
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Commissioner Miller stated he concurs
with Commissioner Bazil, however, the City could hold up the second reading
of the zone change until such time the use is established.
- Commissioner Porter felt additional
information was needed as to the demand for commercial uses in this area.
Mr. Reynolds advised that the applicant
does not have users for the entire parcel at this time, and there is some
difficulty in measuring the demand for uses because of the proposed
freeway, college, etc.
Commissioner Porter stated he feels the
Commission should have assurance of need before they approve rezoning for
large areas of land and that insufficient justification has been shown by
the applicant at this time.
The applicant addressed the Commission
and withdrew his request for zone change.
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Tuesday, May 4, 1971
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A MOTION WAS MADE BY BAZIL AND SECONDED BY
KERINS TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO WITHDRAW ZONE CASE NO. 71-8.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Bazil, Porter, Miller, Kerins
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates, Duke
THE MOTION CARRIED,
CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION N0. 71-18 - APPEAL
Applicant: Berthold Starr and Marie Anna Starr
To permit a 10 ft. x 10 ft. kiosk to be used
as part of a sign in lieu of a pole sign and a chain link fence with
landscaping in lieu of the required 6 ft. high decorative masonry wall.
The subject property is located on the west
side of Brookhurst Street, approximately 600 ft. south of Garfield Avenue.
The Vice -Chairman read the request.
The Staff showed view -graphs of the subject area.
Jim Palin, Associate Planner, reviewed the
area in question and the Board of Zoning Adjustments' action of March 31, 1971,
meeting to conditionally approve that portion of the request for the chain
link fence along the side property lines and to deny that portion of the
request for the 10 ft. by 10 ft. kiosk structure.
Commission discussion was held.
The hearing was opened to the audience.
Mr. Dave Kirschner, representing the applicant,
addressed the Commission and explained the request.
request.
was closed.
There was no one to speak in opposition of the
As there were no other comments, the hearing
Commission discussion was held.
Commissioner Porter questioned the reason for
waiving the block wall and allowing a chain link fence. Mr. Patin, Staff
member, advised that the adjoining property owner preferred a chain link
fence as it would allow a view of the landscaping along the fence. Mr.
Kirschner explained that ivy plantings would screen storage of sacked materials.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY
MILLER TO APPROVE CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 71-18 SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING
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1. Chain link fence may be used from the trellis portion to rear boundary
along the south property line only.
2. Foliage screening shall be provided on the chain link fence where there
storage of sacked materials.
3. No additional sign area shall be permitted.
FOR THE REASONS:
1. The kiosk structure is an asset to the City.
2. The request is not harmful to neighboring properties.
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Tuesday, May 4, 1971
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ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Bazil, Miller, Porter, Kerins
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates, Duke
THE MOT10N CARRIEU.
CODE AMENDMENT NO. 71-9
Said amendment proposes to add to
Division 9 of the Huntington Beach Ordinance Code, Article 932 Apartment
Standards. Said Article sets forth standards for apartment developments in
non -ocean oriented properties in Huntington Beach which may generally be
referred to as being north of Ellis Avenue and east of Beach Boulevard. The
intent is to encourage better land planning, consideration of aesthetics
through application of appearance standards, sets forth minimum floor areas
and proposes to reduce the density.
The Vice -Chairman read the request.
The Acting Secretary advised that in
addition to -advertising this proposal in the newspaper, more than 20
developers within the City were notified of the hearing by letter.
_ The hearing was opened to the audience.
Mr. Bryan Parkinson, Vice -President of
Home Council, stated that the Home Council endorses this amendment to the Code.
Mr. John Murphy, representing Huntington
Harbour Property Owners Association, stated they are in favor of the amend-
ment and would like Huntington Harbour area to be included.
The Acting Secretary advised that ad-
vertisement of this proposed amendment did not specifically include Hunt-
ington Harbour.
Mr. Reynolds, Planning Director, ad-
vised that Signal Properties may be involved in the future.
Mr. Mevis, City Attorney, advised that
the portion of Huntington Harbour which is not ocean oriented, could be in-
cluded in the code amendment without readvertising the request.
Mr. Sterling Clayton addressed the
Commission and requested a staff report on how boundaries were ascertained
and population studies. He also requested a one month continuance for
further study.
There being no further comment, the
hearing was closed.
Commission discussion was held.
It was the consensus of the Commission
that more specific boundaries should be established.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED
BY BAZIL'TO CONTINUE CODE AMENDMENT NO. 71-9 TO THE STUDY SESSION OF MAY 119 19710
FOR DECISION ONLY, TO ALLOW TIME FOR THE STAFF TO INCORPORATE MORE PRECISE
BOUNDARIES.
CIVIC DISTRICT CONFIGURATION
Discussion was held regarding several
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proposals for the Civic -District configuration around the Civic Center and
Central Park.
Discussion was also held pertaining to a proposal
submitted by the Huntington Beach Homeowners' Association for a green belt
along Main Street north of Adams Avenue.
The Staff reviewed various plans and layouts for
the Civic District.
Discussion was held pertaining to green belts
leading into the Civic District. Commissioner Bazil felt that since Main
Street will become a minor street in the future due,to freeway turnoffs,
that Mansion Avenue should have green belt. It was noted that Goldenwest
Street presently has a landscaped median.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY BAZIL AND SECONDED BY
PORTER TO SET THE CIVIC DISTRICT CONFIGURATION FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND TO
INCLUDE THE AREA SHOWN AS ALTERNATE B BY THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD PLUS ALL
PROPERTY ABUTTING THE CENTRAL PARK.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Bazil, Miller, Porter
NOES: Kerins
ABSENT: Slates, Duke
THE MOTION CARRIED.
Minority Report:
Commissioner Kerins stated he feels the civic district should be the
Alternate C so that all vistas to the civic facility comes under civic
district criteria and that Alternate B as proposed does not include all
vistas.
PARKING STANDARDS
Discussion was held pertaining to driveway en-
trances. The Staff reviewed slides of various layouts for parking lots.
Mr. Palin, Associate Planner, advised the
Planning Commission that studies have shown that 90° parking should be used
only where long term parking was in effect due to the difficulties encountered
in negotiating the turn into a stall.
Discussion was held.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY MILLER AND SECONDED BY
BAZIL TO SET THE PARKING STANDARDS FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Bazil, Miller, Porter, Kerins
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates, Duke
THE MOTION CARRIED.
DISCUSSION: The Commission discussed methods by which the appearance of
highways in the vicinity of the Civic Center and Huntington Central Park
could be improved. It was the consensus of the Commission that this could
be achieved by installing a landscape median along the primary highways in
the area; specifically, Main Street from Adams Avenue north to Garfield
Avenue along Mansion and Yorktown Avenues, between Beach Boulevard and
Goldenwest Street. However, it was noted by the Commission that numerous
demands are being placed on the city funds to beautify various sections of
the City.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS,
MEETING ADJOURNED.
R'fthard A. Harlow Marcus M. Porter
Acting Secretary -9- Vice -Chairman