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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1971-10-19MINUTES HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION Council Chambers, Civic'Center Huntington Beach, California TUESDAY, OCTOBER`19, 1971 COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Slates, Bazil, Duke, Porter, Kerins, Boyle, Higgins COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: None NOTE: A TAPE RECORDING OF THIS MEETING IS ON FILE IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT OFFICE. MINUTES: On motion by Kerins and second by Boyle, the minutes of June 15 and 29, 1971 were accepted as transcribed and mailed by the secretary. AGENDA ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED OR WITHDRAWN: TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 7534 Subdivider: Covington Brothers , 71 lots on 19 acres. The subject property is located on the southwest corner of Heil Avenue and Gothard Street. It was noted by the Acting Secretary that a request had been received from the Subdivider requesting withdrawal of Tentative Tract Map No. 7534. A'MOTION WAS MADE BY BOYLE AND SECONDED BY SLATES TO APPROVE'THE SUBDIVIDER'S REQUEST TO WITHDRAW TENTATIVE TRACT MAP'NO. 7534. ROLL CALL VOTE: "AYES: Higgins, Slates, Bazi1, Duke, Porter, Kerins, Boyle NOES: None ABSENT: None THE MOTION CARRIED. TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7596 Subdivider: Larwin Southern California, Inc. 806 lots on 92.5 acres. In Conjunction With USE PERMIT NO. 71-42 Applicant: Larwin Southern California, Inc. To allow the construction of a townhouse development consisting of 728 residential units on 81.07 acres of land in the RA Residential Agricultural District. The subject property is located south of Garfield Avenue and east of Newland Street. -1- 10/19/71 - PC Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, October 19, 1971 Page No. 2 It was noted by the Acting Secretary that the applicant had requested a continuance of Tentative Tract No. 7596 and Use Permit No. 71-42 to November 2, 1971 to allow time to reconsider the feasibility of the project with reduced density as requested by the Subdivision Committee. A MOTION WAS MADE BY DUKE AND SECONDED BY BAZIL TO CONTINUE TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7596 TO NOVEMBER 2, 1971 AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Slates, Bazil, Duke, Porter, Kerins, Boyle, Higgins NOES: None ABSENT: None THE MOTION CARRIED. A MOTION WAS MADE BY BOYLE AND SECONDED BY BAZIL TO CONTINUE USE PERMIT NO. 71-42 TO NOVEMBER 2, 1971 AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Slates, Bazil, Duke, Kerins,'Porter, Boyle, Higgins NOES: None ABSENT: None THE MOTION CARRIED. CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 71-50 - Review Applicant: A to Z Auto- Wrecking & Salvage To permit continued use of property for automobile wrecking and dismantling in the M1 Light Industrial District. The subject property is located on the east side of Gothard, 530 ft. north of Talbert Avenue. The staff requested continuance to November 2, 1971 to allow time for the applicant to submit revised plans. A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY BAZIL TO CONTINUE CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 71`-50 TO NOVEMBER 2, 1971. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Slates, Bazil, Duke, Kerins, Porter, Boyle, Higgins NOES: None ABSENT: None THE MOTION CARRIED. •S TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7572 Subdivider: Classic Development Corp. 53 lots on 10 acres. The subject property is located 660 ft. north of Ellis Avenue and 660 ft. west of Newland Street. -2- 10/19/71 - PC Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, October 19, 1971 Page No. 3 James Palin, Associate Planner, reviewed with the Commission an overlay on Tentative Tract No. 7512 which had been requested by the Subdivision Committee to facilitate street access between Tract No. 7572 and Tract No. 7512. Mr. Palin stated that said street alignment is agreeable with the Department of Public Works. Tentative Tract 7572 and street alignment were discussed by the Planning Commission. A MOTION WAS MADE BY BAZIL AND SECONDED BY KERINS TO APPROVE TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7572 WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS: 1. The Tentative Map received October 11, 1971 shall be the approved layout. 2. A plot plan showing the placement of the home on lots 1, 36, 44, 45 and 53 shall be submitted to the Planning Commission for approval prior to issuance of building permits. 3. A plan showing the landscaping and irrigation facilities at the end of the culs-de-sac shall be submitted to the Planning Commission for approval prior to recordation of a final map. 4. A six (6) ft. high masonry wall shall be constructed along the west property line unless a masonry wall exists in which case the determination for a wall shall be made by the Planning Department. S. All "Standard Conditions of Approval" for tentative tracts tracts that are applicable shall be complied with. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Higgins, Bazil, Porter, Duke, Kerins, Boyle, Slates NOES: None ABSENT: None THE MOTION CARRIED. TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7489 Subdivider: Shapell Company 286 lots on 66.40 acres. The subject property is located south of McFadden Avenue and west of Goldenwest Street. James Palin, Associate Planner, reviewed with the Commission the landscaping along the arterial highways. Vu-graphs were shown. It was noted that this map was reviewed by the Recreation and Parks Department and that the park site location with street frontage was acceptable. George Putnam, representing the applicant, discussed the layout with the Planning Commission. -3- 10/19/71 - PC Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, October 19, 1971 Page No. 4 The Commission reviewed the plan. A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY BAZIL TO -APPROVE TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7489 WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS: - 1. The tentative map received October 19, 1971 shall be the approved layout. 2. A soil report prepared by an approved soils engineer shall be submitted to the Department of Public Works prior to recordation of any portion of the tract and all portions of the land not satisfactory for building shall be excluded. - 3. The design of the block wall along Edwards Street, McFadden Avenue and Goldenwest Street shall be approved by the Department of Public Works and Planning Department. 4. The planter areas along the arterial highways shall be constructed and laiidscaped-by the developer per Department of Public Works and Planning Department requirements._ Plans for such planter areas shall include standard planters at the corners where local streets intersect with the arterial highways; a large planter at the intersection of McFadden Avenue and Edwards Street and a planter shall be provided along the north side of lots 237 and 238 similar to the planter on Goldenwest Street. 5. The 4.2 acre parcel of land located south of McFadden Avenue and west of Goldenwest Street shall be dedicated to the City. Such dedication shall not reduce the amount of fees to be paid for park and recreational facilities. 6. Improvement of the 4.2 acre parcel shall be accomplished in a manner approved by the Recreation and Parks Depart- ment. Such improvement shall be reviewed by the Orange County Health Department. 7. That portion of the street right-of-way adjacent -to the west boundary of the existing school site shall be vacated prior to recordation of a final map. 8. The 20 ft. wide area between lots 100 and 109 shall be designated as a lettered lot and dedicated to the City. 9. All standard conditions of approval for -Tentative Tracts that are applicable shall be complied with. ROLL CALL VOTE: _ AYES: Higgins, Bazil, Porter, Duke, Kerins, Boyle, Slates NOES: None - ABSENT: None THE MOTION CARRIED. -4- 10/19/71 - PC Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, October 19, 1971 Page No. 5 CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 70-50 (Review pursuant to Condition #9 Applicant: John R. Turner of the Conditions of Approval) Condition No. 9 required that Conditional Exception No. 70-50 shall be reviewed by the Planning Commission during the month of October, 1971 to determine whether or not additional conditions should be required. However, in the event the Planning Commission determines that added safety precautions should be -imposed, said conditional exception may be reviewed prior to October 31, 1971. In case of a review by the Planning Commission, the applicant shall be notified in writing at least 10 days prior to the review. To permit a 500 ft. expansion to an existing runway at the Meadowlark Airport. Also, to allow two existing trailers to be used for temporary office and flight school. The subject property is located on the north side of Warner Avenue, east of Bolsa Chica Street in the R1 Single Family Residence District. Video tape showing the blast fence, pole line and cyclone fence was shown. The hearing was opened to the audience. There was no one present to represent the applicant. Ken Hawk, property owner, spoke in opposition, stating there was no aesthetic value to the blast fence. It was noted there was a report from the Police Department relative to the type of reports received from the public. Thomas Ward, property owner, spoke with regard to the obstruction lighting. He felt lighting should be on the south end as well as the north end of the runway. It was noted by Chairman Porter that the determination of this item should be continued to November 2, 1971. It was suggested that reflectors be located on the red lights on Heil Avenue. There being no further comment, the hearing was closed. The Commission held a discussion. A MOTION WAS MADE BY BAZIL AND SECONDED BY DUKE TO CONTINUE CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 70-50 TO NOVEMBER 2, 1971 FOR DECISION ONLY, TO ALLOW TIME TO SEE IF ALL CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLIED WITH AND RESERVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL AT THAT TIME. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Higgins, Bazil, Porter, Duke, Kerins, Slates, Boyle NOES: None ABSENT: None THE MOTION CARRIED. -5- 10/19/71 - PC Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, October 19, 1971 Page No. 6 ZONE CASE NO. 71-31 AREA "A" & AREA "B" RESOLUTION OF INTENT AREA -"A" Change of zone from M2 Heavy Industrial District to R3 Limited Multiple --Family Residence Dis-trict.- The -subject property is located on -the southeast 1/2'of Block 617- and is on the northwest side of 17th Street, between -Palm -Avenue and Acacia Avenue. AREA "B" Change of zone from _ M2 Heavy Industrial District to R3 Limited Multiple Family"_ Residence District. the subject property i's` the' -southeast - 1/2 of Block 517, located on the northwest side of 17th Street, between Acacia and -Pecan -Avenues. -_ = It was noted by the Acting Secretary_ that at the September -21, 1971 meeting, the Commission had -tabled action on areas "A" & "B" of this -zone change and requested that they be readvertised for R3 rather than R2. - The -hearing was" opened to the _audience. - ___ There was no one to _ speak in favor _of nor opposition to this zone-case.--There-- being no other comment, -the hearing was closed. - Commission discussion followed. A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY BAZIL TO APPROVE ZONE CASE NO. 71=3l' AREA "A" FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS: 1. 17th Street is_a-primary arterial highway. 2. There,is__no difference between these lots and other lots fronting. -on 17th Street -to the southwest. 3. Access -to- these lots will be limited to the alley only. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Slates, Bazi_1,_Higgins, Boyle NOES: Duke, Kerins, Porter ABSENT: NoneTHE MOTION CARRIED. MINORITY REPORT: Commissioner Duke -stated his reasons for -a - nay vote were that the basic zoning on Palm Avenue is R2 and Palm Avenue is an arterial highway; therefore, there was no point in rezoning this property to increase density. - A MOTION WAS MADE BY _ SLATES AND SECONDED BY BAZIL TO"APPROVE ZONE CASE NO. 71-31- AREA "B" FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS: 1. 17th-Street is a__primary arterial highway. 2. There is no difference between these lots and other lots fronting on 17th Street and to the northwest. 3. Access to these lots will be limited. -6- 10/19/71 - PC Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, October 19, 1971 Page No. 7 ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Slates, Bazil, Higgins, Boyle NOES: Duke, Kerins, Porter - ABSENT: None THE MOTION CARRIED. Additional Information: The Planning Commission discussed Zone Change No. 71-31 as it relates to Areas "C" through "J" and that the City Council referred the matter back to the Planning Commission for further consideration to consider commercial zoning along 17th Street. The Planning Commission felt there will be a need for some commercial zoning in this area; however, there were many factors that should be considered first. In order to make known the Planning Commission's position on this matter, the Commission felt it advisable to adopt a resolution of intent to rezone commercial property; and to enumerate the conditions upon which commercial zoning would be granted. The Staff was instructed to prepare a resolution of intent to approve commercial zoning along 17th Street. ZONE CASE NO. 71-35 Applicant: Signal Oil and Gas Company_ A change of zone from C3 General Business District and C3-0 General Business District combined with oil production to C3-01 General Business District combined with oil production. The -subject property is bounded by 18th Street to the east, Pacific Coast Highway to the south, 19th Street to the west and the alley between Pacific Coast Highway and Walnut Street to the north. Video tape was shown of the subject area. The hearing was opened to the audience. Bill Woods, representing the applicant, addressed the Commission, stating that there are approximately 55 existing wells within the unit involved in this water flood program. Mr. Woods stated that several of these existing wells will be used as temporary injection wells for the water flood and that these wells will ultimately be replaced with new wells located within the oil operation site. Also, the number of wells presently producing in this unit will be replaced by new wells in the oil operation site over a period of time. The ultimate intent is to eliminate all existing wells and have all new production occurring from the proposed oil operation site. There being no further comment, the hearing was closed. Commission discussion followed. -7- 10/19/71 - PC Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, October 19, 1971 Page No. 8 A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY BAZIL-TO APPROVE ZONE CASE NO. 71-35 FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON: 1. It will answer the City's stated intent of reducing the number of operating oil wells in the City. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Higgins, Bazil,--Porter, Duke, Kerins, Boyle, Slates NOES: None ABSENT: None THE MOTION CARRIED. ZONE CASE NO. 71-36 Applicant: Harriett H. Lewis & Margaret H. Gilbert _ A change of zone from M1 Light Industrial District to R2 Two Family Residence District. The subject property is 1320 f t. west of Beach Boulevard south of Talbert Avenue. It was noted by the Acting Secretary that a letter had been received from Mrs. Archibald stating an opinion in favor of this proposal. The hearing was opened to the audience. Mr. John Klug, property owner, addressed the Commission and spoke in favor of this,-,,, request. He felt there is a need in Huntington Beach for homes selling in the $20,000 bracket. Milt Elliott, a property owner in Huntington Beach, addressed the Commission, speaking in opposition, stated the school served by this area was greatly overcrowded. There being no further comment, the hearing was closed. Commission discussion followed. A MOTION WAS MADE BY BAZIL AND SECONDED BY KERINS TO DENY ZONE CASE NO. 71-36 FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON: 1. This -land is Master Planned for industrial use. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Bazil, Duke, Porter, Kerins, Boyle, Higgins NOES: Slates ABSENT: None THE MOTION CARRIED. MINORITY REPORT: Commissioner Slates stated that he feels this property oes not have the prerequisites for industrial land. Also, freeway access from the subject property would be through the Central Park. -8- 10/19/71 - PC Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, October 19, 1971 Page No. 9 ZONE CHANGE NO. 71-37 Applicant: Huntington Beach Company A change of zone to facilitate the relocation of an oil operation site which will require rezoning of subject property (new site) from R4-0 Multiple Family Residence District combined with oil production to R4-01 Multiple Family Residence District combined with oil production and, rezoning (old site) from R4-01 Multiple Family Residence District combined with oil production to R4-0 Multiple Family Residence District combined with oil production. The subject property is located approximately 3000 ft. northwest of Goldenwest Street and Orange Avenue. The hearing was opened to the audience. Jerry Shea, representing the applicant, addressed the Planning Commission and explained the request. the hearing was closed. There being no further comment, Commission discussion followed. A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO APPROVE ZONE CHANGE NO. 71-37 FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON: 1.- This zone change is only a minor adjustment to the present zone boundary. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Higgins, Bazil, Porter, Duke, Kerins, Boyle, Slates NOES: None ABSENT: None THE MOTION CARRIED. CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 71-72 (Referred by the Board of Applicant: George A. Kachickas Zoning Adjustments) To allow carports at zero setback in a 150-unit apartment complex. In Conjunction With USE PERMIT NO. 71-41 (Referred by the Board of Zoning Adjustments) Applicant: George A. Kachickas To permit the construction of a 150 unit apartment complex in the R3 Limited Multiple Family Residence District and R2 Two Family Residence District. The subject property is located two hundred (200) ft. south of Warner Avenue 900 ft. east of Bolsa Chica St. in the R3 Limited Multiple Family Residence District and R2 Two Family Residence District. In Conjunction With -9- 10/19/71 - PC Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, October 19, 1971 Page No. 10 ZONE CASE NO. 71-20 - Area "L " (Resolution of Intent) Referred back to the P1aiining Commission by the City Council to be heard with Use Permit No. 71-41. --Change of zone from R2 Two Family Residence District, and R3 Limited Multiple Family Residence District to R1-Single Family Residence District located -approximately 200 ft. south of Warner Avenue and approximately 920 ft. east of Bolsa Chica Street. _ Jim-Palin, Associate Planner, reviewed with the Commission detailed calculations on the plot plan. Vu-graphs were shown. Video tape of subject property was shown. It was noted that density is the only item where the revised plot plan does not conform with the March 9, 1971 Apartment Standards. The hearing was opened to the audience. George Kachickas, applicant, addressed -the Commission and made a presentation of his proposed project. - - - _ Stan_ Crom, adjacent property owner, addressed the Commission and discussed the proposed structures on the crest of the property with regard to his privacy if this development was constructed. Mr. Kachickas stated he would be willing to move the structures in question back more than 40 ft. from the R1 area and also the crest of the hill would be lowered. Robert Allen, adjacent property owner, asked for clarification on the zone case and spoke in opposition to opening access up to the R1 area. Mr. Allen also stated that his privacy would be infringed upon if subject development is approved. There being no further comment, the hearing was closed. Commission discussion followed. _ A MOTION WAS MADE BY DUKE AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO CONTINUE CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 71-72 TO JANUARY 4, 1972 TO ALLOW TIME FOR THE APPLICANT TO SUBMIT A REVISED PLOT PLAN AND NEW ELEVATIONS. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Higgins, Bazil, Porter, Duke, Kerins, Boyle, Slates NOES: None ABSENT: None , THE MOTION CARRIED. -10- 10/19/71 - PC Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, October 19, 1971 Page No. 11 Commissioner Bazil stated he felt the density should be arrived at before elevations were asked for. The Commission was polled. It was the consensus of the Commission that the density should be lowered. A MOTION WAS MADE BY BOYLE AND SECONDED BY DUKE TO CONTINUE USE PERMIT NO. 71-41 TO JANUARY 4, 1972 TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TIME TO SUBMIT REVISED PLANS SHOWING TOPOGRAPHICAL RELATIONSHIP TO ELEVATIONS. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Higgins, Bazil, Porter, Duke, Kerins, Boyle, Slates NOES: None ABSENT: None THE MOTION CARRIED. A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY HIGGINS TO RETRANSMIT ZONE CHANGE NO. 71-20 AREA "L" RESTATING THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION TO REZONE SAID AREA TO R2. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Higgins, Bazil, Porter, Boyle, Slates NOES: Duke, Kerins ABSENT: None THE MOTION CARRIED. MINORITY REPORT: Commissioner Duke stated that he feels this is a spot zoning and it is one of the most beautiful hilltop areas in the City. Also, that the City is losing some of the beautiful potential R1 area. CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 71-63 (Board of Zoning Adjustments - Applicant: Melven Genser Outdoor, Inc. Appeal) To allow the continued use of an existing non -conforming subdivision directional sign for one year. The subject property is located on the southeast corner of Beach Boulevard and Stark Street in the C2 Community Business District. Vu-graphs and video tape were shown of the subject area. The hearing was opened to the audience. William Forbes, representing the applicant, addressed the Commission and explained the request. He discussed the amortization period with relation to the code. Leon Beermein, property owner, spoke in opposition and felt the signs should be removed. There being no further comment, the hearing was closed. Commission discussion followed. -11- 10/19/71 - PC Minutes: I -I. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, October 19, 1971 Page No. 12 A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY BAZIL TO SUSTAIN THE ACTION OF THE BOARD OF ZONING -ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS: 1. There was no justification of hardship for the request. 2. There has been ample amortization period since the _ effective date of Article 976 (Sign Ordinance). ROLL CALL VOTE: - AYES: Higgins, Bazil, Porter, Duke, Kerins, Boyle, Slates NOES: None ABSENT: None THE MOTION CARRIED. CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 71-64 - Board of Zoning Adjustments Applicant: Melven Genser Outdoor, Inc. (Appealed by Applicant) To allow the continued use of an existing non -conforming subdivision directional sign for one year. The subject property is located on the west side of Brookhurst Street, 790 ft. south of Garfield Avenue in the C2 Community Business District and MH Mobilehome District. to the audience. The hearing was opened William Forbes, representing the applicant, addressed the Commission and explained the request. There being no further comment, the hearing was closed. Commission discussion followed. A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY BAZIL TO SUSTAIN THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENTS ACTION AND DENY CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 71-64 PPR THE FOLLOWING REASON: - ,It A ftaller park is being developed on the adjacent property. - ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Higgins, Bazil, Porter, Duke, Kerins, Boyle, Slates NOES: None ABSENT: None THE MOTION CARRIED. CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 71-65 - Board of Zoning Adjustmedts Applicant: Melven Genser Outdoor, Inc. (Appealed by Applicant) To allow the continued use of an existing non -conforming subdivision directional sign, for one year. The subject property is located on the northeast corner of Goldenwest Street and Warner Avenue in the R5 Office - Professional District. The hearing was opened to the audience. -12- 10/19/71 - PC Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, October 19, 1971 Page No. 15 A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY HIGGINS TO RESTATE THE ORIGINAL TRANSMITTAL. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Slates, Bazil, Higgins, Boyle NOES: Duke, Porter, Kerins ABSENT: None THE MOTION CARRIED. CODE AMENDMENT NO. 71-24 - Residential Yard Requirements Said code amendment proposes to repeal Article 913 (R1-PD5) and to clarify the yard require- ments in residential districts by establishing where the setbacks are to be measured from when abutting the public right-of-way. James Palin, Associate Planner, reviewed Code Amendment No. 71-24 with the Commission. A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO SET CODE AMENDMENT NO. 71-24 FOR PUBLIC HEARING. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Higgins, Bazil, Porter, Duke, Kerins, Boyle, Slates NOES: None ABSENT: None THE MOTION CARRIED. ZONE CHANGE R-206 (Westminster) This item was previously discussed with the Planning Commission at which time the Commission requested the staff to contact Ocean View School District to determine their position on subject request. It was pointed out to the Planning Commission that the school district did not take an official stand. The Acting Secretary was directed to receive and file the legal notice on Zone Change R-206. LETTER FROM LEADERSHIP HOUSING SYSTEMS. INC. Regarding numbers on apartments. Chuck Beck, representing Leadership Housing Systems, Inc., addressed the Commission and stated that the numbers on buildings were used as graphic architectural effect. He felt the signing follows the intent of the ordinance. Commissioner Slates and Commis- sioner Bazil felt the numbers do not fall under the Sign Ordinance. The City Attorney was asked for an opinion. Will Mevis, Deputy City Attorney, stated he felt the Sign Ordinance was not applicable to the numbers in question. A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY BAZIL THAT THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SIGN ORDINANCE COULD NOT BE IMPOSED ON THE HEIGHT AND SIZE OF SAID NUMBERS. -15- 10/19/71 - PC Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, October 19, 1971 Page No. 16 ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Bazil, Slates, Porter, Higgins, Boyle NOES: Kerins - ABSENT: None ABSTAINED: -Duke THE MOTION -CARRIED. - - A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY DUKE TO DIRECT THE STAFF TO WORK WITH' THE APPLICANT ON -REMOVING -THE NUMBERS AS THEY WERE NOT SHOWN ON THE ORIGINAL PLANS AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Duke, Kerins NOES: Bazil, Slates, -Porter, Boyle, Higgins ABSENT: None THE MOTION DID NOT -CARRY. - The Commission further requested, and the applicant agreed, to meet with the staff and furnish cost figures an removal and/or modification for the four numbers facing on Warner Avenue. - - OVERHEAD UTILITIES - Discussion The staff reviewed with the Planning - Commission photographs of existing -overhead utility lines along Brookhurst_Street south of Garfield Avenue and at the southwest corner of Adams Avenue and Brookhurst Street. The Commission discussed the cluttered effect of having utility lines on both sides of the street at these locations. A MOTION WAS MADE BY PORTER AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO HAVE THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENTS REVIEW ALL APPLICATIONS FOR RELOCATION PERMITS ON OVERHEAD UTILITIES. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Bazil, Duke, Porter, Kerins, Boyle, Higgins - NOES: Slates ABSENT: None - THE MOTION CARRIED. - DISCUSSION - All plot plans for building permits in the town lot area. The Planning Commission discussed at great length the lack of required open space on many of the current projects being constructed in the town lot area. A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE THAT THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENTS REVIEW AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE ITEM ALL PLOT PLANS IN -THE TOWN LOT AREA FOR OPEN SPACE,_SETBACKS AND REQUIRED LANDSCAPING PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF BUILDING PERMITS. -16- 10/19/71 - PC Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, October 19, 1971 Page No. 13 - William Forbes, representing - the applicant, addressed the Commission and explained the request. He stated they would bring the boards into conformity with the code but there is no way to relocate the boards and get the proper spacing between the boards. Mr. Forbes stated that the blank board exists because they are awaiting the decision on this case. There being no further comment, the hearing was closed. Commission discussion followed. A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY BAZIL TO SUSTAIN THE DECISION OF THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENTS AND DENY CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 71-65 FOR THE REASON: 1. Sufficient hardship has not been shown. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Higgins, Bazil, Porter, Duke, Kerins, Boyle, Slates NOES: None ABSENT: None THE MOTION CARRIED. CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 71-66 - Board of Zoning Adjustments Applicant: Melven Genser Outdoor, Inc. (Appealed by Applicant) To allow the continued use of an existing non -conforming subdivision directional sign for one year. The subject property is located on the north line of Warner Avenue and 300 ft. east of Goldenwest Street in the R5 Office -Professional District. The hearing was opened to the audience. William Forbes, representing the applicant, addressed the Commission and explained the request. It was noted that one of the existing signs at this location was a legal sign. It was the consensus of the Commission that any conforming sign would take first preference and there is an existing legal sign on this property. There being no further comment, the hearing was closed. A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY BAZIL TO SUSTAIN THE DECISION OF THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENTS AND DENY CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 71-66 FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS: 1. The signs in this area are too close to each other. 2. If allowed to remain, it would violate the ordinance code in size, location and distance between signs. -13- 10/19/71 - PC •r Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, October 19,, 1971 Page No. 14 ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Higgins, Bazil, Porter, Duke, Kerins, Boyle, Slates NOES: None ABSENT: None THE MOTION CARRIED. MISCELLANEOUS: ZONE CASE NO. 71-18 - Referred back to the Planning Commission by the City Council for further consideration Said Zone Case proposes to establish a CD suffix on property in the vicinity of the new Civic Center. The City Council has asked the Planning Commission to consider a new configuration of the CD boundary in the vicinity of the Civic Center. Richard Harlow, Assistant Planning Director, made a presentation of the proposed alternates. Commission discussion followed. A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY PORTER TO ADOPT ALTERNATE "H" FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON: 1. The topography of the property in the area is such that Alternate "H" best serves the Civic Center. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Porter, Kerins, Bazil, Duke 1` NOES: Slates, Boyle, Higgins ABSENT: none THE MOTION CARRIED. MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 71-3 - Study Area "C" The subject property is generally bounded as follows: Starting at a point at the intersection of Ellis Avenue and Edwards Street; thence northerly along Edwards Street to the Navy Railroad line; thence north- westerly along the city limits to Rancho Avenue; thence southwesterly along Rancho Avenue to Bolsa Chica Street; thence southerly along Bolsa Chica Street to Edinger Avenue; thence westerly along Edinger Avenue to the proposed Route 1 Freeway; thence westerly along said freeway to the western boundary of Sunset Aquatic Park; thence southwesterly perpendicular to the coastline to the mean high tide line; thence southeasterly along the mean high tide line to Warner Avenue; thence easterly along Warner Avenue and Los Patos Avenue to the proposed Route 1 Freeway; thence southeasterly along said freeway to Ellis Avenue extended; thence easterly along Ellis Avenue to the point of beginning. referred back to the Planning for the Commission to consider No. 71-20. This proposal was Commission by the City Council the changes made in -Zone Case The Planning Commission reconsidered Master Plan Amendment No. 71-3 at the request of the City Council. It was the determination of the Planning Commission that the proposed master plan as originally presented represents good planning and should not be changed. r -14- 10/19/71 - PC Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, October 19, 1971 Page No. 17 ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Bazil, Duke, Porter, Kerins, Boyle, Higgins NOES: Slates ABSENT: None THE MOTION CARRIED. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO A STUDY SESSION NOVEMBER 9, 1971 AT 2:00 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER. Richard A. Harlow Acting Secretary Marcus M. Porter Chairman -17- 10/19/71 - PC