HomeMy WebLinkAbout1972-04-18MINUTES
HUNTINGTON BEACH"PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY, APRIL 18, 1972
MEMBERS PRESENT:
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Council Chambers, Civic Center
Huntington Beach, California
Bazil, Porter, Kerins, Boyle, Higgins
Slates
A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS
AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO ACCEPT THE LETTER OF RESIGNATION
OF MR. HENRY DUKE.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Porter,
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
Kerins, Boyle, Higgins
Chairman Porter announced that
nominations were open for vice-chairman to fill the position
as Mr. Duke has resigned.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY BAZIL AND
SECONDED BY BOYLE TO NOMINATE MR. EDWARD KERINS FOR VICE-
CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
A FURTHER MOTION WAS MADE BY
HIGGINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO CLOSE THE NOMINATION.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Porter,
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
The Chair called for the question.
Kerins, Boyle, Higgins
MINUTES: A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE
'_Tb`ACCEPT THE MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 4, 1972 MEETING
AS TRANSCRIBED AND DIRECTED THE STAFF TO MAIL THE
MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 11, 18, 25, AND FEBRUARY 29,
1972, MEETINGS TO THE COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL.
AGENDA ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED OR WITHDRAWN:
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7743
Subdivider: United Properties Investors
15 lots on 2.16 acres of land.
The subject property is located on, the northwest corner of the
intersection of Marina View Place and Los Patos Avenue.
In Conjunction With
USE PERMIT NO. 72-6
Applicant: Harbour Heights Company
To allow the construction of
15 units, Planned Residential Development, on a 2.16 'acre
parcel of land.
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Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, April 18, 1972
Page No. 2
The hearing was opened
to the audience on Use Permit No. 72-6.
The Acting Secretary
informed the Commission that additional time was needed for
a revision request by the Subdivision Committee -on subject
map. -The staff therefore recommends a continuance to June 6th
with the applicant's concurrence.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY
KERINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO CONTINUE TRACT NO. 7743 TO
THE JUNE 6, 1972 MEETING.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Porter, Kerins, Boyle, Higgins
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
A FURTHER MOTION WAS
MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO'CONTINUE USE PERMIT
NO. 72-6 TO THE JUNE 6, 1972 MEETING TO BE HEARD IN CONJUNCTION
WITH TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7743.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Higgins,
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
Porter, Kerins, Boyle
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7771
Subdivider: Meadow Homes
137 lots on 29 acres
of land. The subject property is located on the northwest
corner of Ellis Avenue and Newland Street.
The Acting Secretary
informed the Commission that additional -time was needed to
allow the City to pursue preserving the bluff that runs
through this property as open space. Mr. Harlow stated that
the applicant has submitted a letter agreeing to a continuance
to the May 2, 1972 meeting.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY
KERINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO CONTINUE TENTATIVE TRACT
NO. 7771 TO THE MAY 2, 1972 MEETING.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Higgins,
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
Porter, Kerins, Boyle
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7755
Subdivider: Tustin Village Incorporated
143 lots on 20 acres
of land. The subject property is bounded by Utica Avenue on
the north, Delaware Street on the west, Adams Avenue on the
south, Florida Street on the east.
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CORRECTED COPY
Minutes: 11. B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, April 18, 1972
Page No. 3
The Acting Secretary informed
the Commission that this revised map is before them pursuant
to the applicant's request for duplex construction on 6000 sq.
ft. lots. Mr. Harlow informed the Commission that a method
of conveyance of these dwellings has been investigated by the
City Attorney's office and that they are prepared to discuss
with the Commission this conveyance of 1/2 of a lot proposed
by the developer for this subdivision.
Mr. Mevis indicated he had
checked with the City of Santa Ana and that this type of
construction was considered a poor-man's condominium. He
also stated he could find no legal reasons to deny the
duplex on a 6000 sq. ft. lot in the R2 District.
A lengthy.Planning Commission
discussion was held with concern expressed by the Planning
Commission on the method of conveyance, landscaped areas,
setbacks from the arterial and local streets and elevations
as they would appear from all public streets.
whether the City could require
that all prospective buyers be
freeway alignment.
Commissioner Porter questioned
or condition the map to require
made aware of the present
It was the consensus of the
Planning Commission that as the map before them for review
was a legal subdivision for a duplex on a 6000 sq. ft. lot
in the R2 Two Family Residence District that they should
not be concerned with the method of conveyance of subject
property. The Commission also directed the staff to notify
the Real Estate Commission and require that the freeway
alignment be stated in the Real Estate Report on subject
subdivision.
Mike Jagger, representing
Tustin Village, addressed the Commission and expressed a
desire to work with the'City on the method of conveyance
of the property. He outlined in great detail the method of
conveyance and reviewed a grant deed of similar construction
with the Planning Commission. Mr. Jagger informed the
Commission that he was proposing the same models as previously
reviewed with the Planning Commission at a previous meeting.
Additional Commission discussion
followed.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY HIGGINS
AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO APPROVE TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 7755
WITH CONDITIONS AS OUTLINE BY THE STAFF AND AMENDED.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Porter, Bazil, Higgins, Boyle
NOES: Kerins
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
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Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, April 18, 1972
Page No. 4
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7805
Subdivider: Stellrecht - Bartoli
20 lots on 5 acres
of land. The subject property is located north of Pearce
Street 663 ft. east of Bolsa Chica Street.
The staff presented
a vu-graph on the subject property.
Mr. Porter indicated
there should be a condition that this plan should be submittbd
to the Orange County Airport Commission.
Mr. Harlow stated it
had already been submitted to the Airport Commission.
Mr. Winterburg from
Valley Consultants was present as the applicant.
Mr. Kerins asked what
would happen if the Planning Commission approved this plan
and the Airport Commission denied it.
Mr. Reynolds indicated
that the Airport Commission can veto a map but that by four -
fifths vote the Planning Commission could overrule the Airport
Commission. This plan was submitted to the Airport Commission
and it may be a month before we get an answer.
Mr. Harlow indicated
that access to the subdivision should be subject to the
approval of the Department of Public Works.
Mr. Palin presented
some slides and described the landing and take -off pattern.
Mr. Boyle asked what
the Airport Commission is looking for.
Mr. Reynolds said the
Airport Commission is concerned with building height, land
use, safety, noise pollution; noise pollution not being a
factor here. He also indicated the Airport Commission's
functions overlap the Planning Commission's function.
The Airport Commission
has no staff and they rely on local agencies to supply them
with information.
Mr. Porter indicated
that it appears to be a poor location because of the airport,
the surrounding uses, and potential problems.
Mr."Bazil explained
that at this time this development looks out of place.
Mr. Winterburg stated that this is a tentative map and they
have complied with the zoning.
Mr. Porter explained
that the City is concerned here with the general welfare and
this map may lead to an increase in problems such as curbing
of the airport, noise complaints, etc.
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Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, April 18, 1972
Page No. 5
Mr. Bazil indicated that R1
does not appear to be an appropriate use of this property
and it should be restudied for another zoning.
Mr. Mevis stated that there
isn't too much room for discretion if a map meets the code.
Mr. Kerins indicated that the
general welfare overshadows all other matters.
Mr. Mevis asked if he might have
time to study the problem of approving this map at this location.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND
SECONDED BY BOYLE TO CONTINUE TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7805 TO
THE MAY 2, 1972 MEETING FOR DECISION ONLY.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Higgins, Porter, Kerins, Boyle
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
A MOTION WAS'MADE BY BAZIL
AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO CONSIDER OTHER USES FOR THIS PROPERTY
AND TO INVESTIGATE ALTERNATE ZONING.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Porter,
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
Kerins, Boyle, Higgins
CODE AMENDMENT NO. 72-5
A proposed code amendment
which will clarify the residential district designations by
redesignating them to low, medium medium high, and high for
the R1, R2, R3, and R4 zones respectively, and to renumber
Article 925 to Article 940.
The hearing was opened to the
audience.
There being no comment the hearing
was closed.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND
SECONDED BY BOYLE TO ADOPT CODE AMENDMENT NO. 72-5 AND TRANSMIT
IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Porter, Kerins, Boyle, Higgins
NOES: None
ABSENT:' Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
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Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, April 18, 1972
Page No. 6
MISCELLANEOUS:
DISCUSSION: LETTER FROM OPRIAN REALTYFREGARDING THE NORTHEAST
CORNER OF GOLDENWEST AVENUE AND WARNER AVENUE
Mr. -Reynolds addressed
the Commission and stated that -this -parcel has had a long
history of problems in the attempt to clear the sight for
development. At one time it was considered as a Civic Center
and Library Site. The.parcel has soil and drainage problems
and was considered under; a redevelopment program under
state law. It appeared to be a good site for commercial use, -
but the City rejected the program to purchase -the property
and to resell it for development. This could again be
reconsidered as a redevelopment program. It would take
approximately $360,000 to consolidate the property. Once the
commitment is made the City could accept some pre -options
for the sale of this property. The alternatives at this time
appear to be to proceed with'a redevelopment program and to
continue to farm the property.
Mr.,Kerins stated
that he would like to look at this property at the time the
Master Plan is reviewed.
Mr. Porter said he
would like to make the City Administrator aware of this.
property.
- Mr. Boyle indicated
the Commission should take this matter up in due time with
the land use studies.
A MOTION WAS MADE
BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE LETTER
FROM MR. OPRIAN.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Porter,
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
Kerins Boyle, Higgins
The staff was further
directed to advise Mr. Oprian of the Planning Commission's
intent to review the site during the Master Plan Review.
DISCUSSION: A PLAN OF PROPOSED OPEN SPACE RECREATION AREA
AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF ADAMS AVENUE AND
BEACH BOULEVARD, A PORTION OF TENTATIVE TRACT
NO. 7742.
Mr. Harlow discussed
attempts to preserve portions of the bluff.
Mr. Hartge explained
that the problem originates with the desire of the Public
.Works Department to obtain a drainage facility for this area.
._ __,One_plan was instigated to have an open channel following the
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Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, April 18, 1972
Page No. 7
curvature of the bluff. The Environmental Council desires
to maintain an open space at this bluff line. Another
alternative is to create a box channel across the property
and through the school site. It was indicated that the school
site may not go into this quarter section, which may lead to
the possibility that the park site will also not go into
this quarter section. This would lead to a necessity of
redesigning the subdivision. Mr. Hartge presented three
alternate plans. He indicated that the plan that was selected
by the Recreation and Parks Commission, Alternate No. 2, was
a plan that would reserve the weeds and reeds for those who
are interested in that sort of thing. It would also preserve
the low area adjacent to Adams Avenue.
Mr. Boyle stated it appeared
we are trying to attain several projects at the same time.
Mr. Harlow said there was a
drainage project and an open space project.
Mr. Hartge explained that the
area if intended to be an open space area may find the demand
of the residents who will be moving in to be for a full-blown
park site.
Mr. Harlow indicated the
immediate need was to establish a line between -the subdivision
and the flood control channel.
Mr. Boyle stated he would like
to wait until the Environmental Council took a position on
this project.
Mr. Kerins would like a report
from the Environmental Council on the project.
Mr. Reynolds explained that
this entire quarter section could be placed under a planned
development zoning and that this channel could be part of the
open space project. He stated there is no need to have,a
standard subdivision in this quarter section.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS
AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO REFER THIS PLAN TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL
COUNCIL FOR A REPORT AND TO CONTINUE IT TO MAY 2, 1972.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Porter, Kerins, Boyle, Higgins
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
The Chair acknowledged Mr. Henry
Duke to address the Commission.
Mr. Duke related his thanks
for the good relationship they have had in the past four
years in the Commission. He stated he would like to maintain
this relationship.
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Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, April 18, 1972
Page No. 8
DISCUSSION: PRECISE PLAN OF STREETS FOR THE INDUSTRIAL .ZONED
PROPERTY SOUTH OF SLATER AND EAST OF THE RAILROAD
TRACKS, THE EXTENSION OF SPEER AVENUE.
Mr. Murphy stated the
need to review this for a precise plan. He indicated the
Planning Commission approved a horse stable here and required
additional right-of-way on Speer Avenue. The need now is to
determine what will become of Speer Avenue. Mr. Murphy
presented alternates on the Speer Alignment.
Mr. Bazil preferred
the alignment tying Speer Avenue to the industrial area but
said we should not go south to the encyclopedia lots.
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Mr. Harlow explained
they should probably set the northerly portion of Spear Avenue
for public hearing and adopt a resolution as to alignment on
the southerly portion to the encyclopedia lots.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY
KERINS AND SECONDED BY BAZIL TO SET THE PRECISE PLAN FOR THE
NORTHERLY ALIGNMENT OF.SPEER AVENUE FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND TO
ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF INTENT AS TO THE SOUTHERLY ALIGNMENT OF
THE STREETS DOWN THROUGH THE ENCYCLOPEDIA LOTS.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Kerins, Bazil, Porter, Higgins, Boyle
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7639 - Review of Elevations
Subdivider: McKeon Construction Company
In Conjunction With
USE PERMIT NO. 71-50 - Review of Elevations
Applicant: McKeon Construction Company
Mr. Palin reviewed
the plot plan and elevations with the Commission.
Mr. Darrel Boyer,
representing the applicant, indicated he will have colored
renderings for presentation to the Planning Commission.
Mr. Boyle expressed
a desire to wait for the renderings.
Mr. Higgins stated
he•was ready to vote at this time and there was no reason
to wait.
Mr. Boyer expressed
a willingness to wait for two weeks.
A MOTION -WAS MADE BY
BAZIL AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO CONTINUE TENTATIVE TRACT
NO. 7639 AND USE PERMIT NO. 71-50 TO MAY 2, 1972 TO REVIEW THE
ELEVATIONS AND RENDERINGS.
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Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, April 18, 1972
Page No. 9
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Porter, Kerins, Boyle, Higgins
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
COUNTY ZONE CASE NO. 72-5
Mr. Harlow stated that this is
for information only, and that the county's C2 zone is some-
what unrestrictive and the Orange County Planning Department
is recommending approval of this zone case from C2 to R4.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS
AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THIS COMMUNIQUE.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Porter, Kerins, Boyle, Higgins
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
DISCUSSION: .PLANNING COMMISSION GOALS FOR 1972
Mr. Harlow said that he would
run through the items on the goals statements and would like
the Planning Commission either to agree or delete the problems.
(All items listed in "Goals" are assumed to be as stated unless
otherwise changed below.)
As to item C5, the Commission
indicated the property owner should submit plans and then a
priority would be set. The City is not desirous of a piece-
meal approach on this property.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS
AND SECONDED BY HIGGINS TO DIRECT THE STAFF TO PREPARE A
POLICY RESOLUTION TO REQUIRE A MASTER PLAN OF THE SIGNAL
PROPERTIES AND TO DISCOURAGE A PIECE -MEAL APPROACH, AND TO
DELETE ITEM 5 FROM THE GOALS LIST.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Porter, Kerins, Boyle, Higgins
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
Item B-11 was referred to the
City Engineer for a report and the need to determine where
the bridges would be required.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY BOYLE
AND SECONDED BY KERINS TO REFER ITEM B-11 TO THE CITY ENGINEER
AND DELETE THIS ITEM FROM THE GOALS.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Porter,
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
Kerins, Boyle, Higgins
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Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, April 18, 1972
Page No. 10
On Items B-12 and B=13
the staff is to pursue the use of -consultants to do these studies.
Item B-10 is being
worked on by the Environmental Council, the Administrator,
and the Planning Director, -and it is to be discussed with the
City Council on April 24, 1972.
Item C-4 should be
placed under housing, which -is Item B-7_and delete the
reference to the -single family home.
Item C-5-d is to be
deleted.
Item C-5-e should
possibly require that a bond be filed to guarantee the
landscaping does not die. Mr. Hartge indicated the present
method for acceptance of landscaping is adequate and the
Commission should not stipulate a time of one year. The
Commission indicated a desire to discuss C-5-e 'at a future
study session.
On Item C-6 the
Commission discussed the possibility of referring this to the
underground utilities Commission to consider the areas for
undergrounding and consolidating. Mr. Porter created a
Committee composed of Mr. Porter, Mr. Kerins, and Mr. Boyle
to act as a subcommittee of the Commission to study this
problem and to recommend to the Underground Utilities
Commission the areas for undergrounding and consolidating.
On Item C-7 it is
understood the City Administrator is working on this project
and Mr. Kerins stated he would like to participate in this
project and it should be left on the list.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY;
KERINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO DIRECT THE STAFF TO SEND A
COMMUNIQUE TO THE CITY. ADMINISTRATOR STATING THE PLANNING
COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO BE INVOLVED IN ITEM C-7.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Porter, Kerins, Higgins, Boyle
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
On Item C-13 the
Planning Commission would like to be brought up to date on
this item. Mr. Bazil stated the Planning Commission would
like a status report on this program. Mr. Kerins indicated
this should be a list of projects established. The staff
was directed to prepare such a list and to update the Com-
mission from time -to -time on the status of such projects.
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Tuesday, April 18, 1972
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On Item C-15 Mr. Kerins indicated
the Planning Commission subcommittee had recommended R1,
10,000 sq. ft. lots such as other cities have done. This
should be carried to a study session agenda. Mr. Boyle stated
this should be a low priority item. Mr. Kerins said this
should be a high priority item. Mr. Harlow explained this
could be reviewed when Areas "A" and "B" are studied.
On Item C-17 Mr. Boyle is
concerned with transportation and indicated the transportation
is really a cooperation among several counties. He stated
the Commission should apply pressure to higher levels on a
regional basis. Also there is no need for us to be wed to
the automobile.
Item _C-13 is to be tied into
the conservation and historic site elements of the general
plan. It is to be combined with item 3 and entitled
"Conservation -Historic"
Item D-7 is high priority.
Item D-10 and D-12 are to be
considered medium priority and to be combined.
Item D-11 is to be medium priority.
Item D-13 is medium priority with
the attorney being,directed to study contract zoning, spot
zoning, and conditional zoning.
On Item D-15 the staff and
attorney were directed to research the San Diego School
Dedication arrangement.
with Item C-18.
low priority.
that service stations should
Mr. Bazil indicated the City
service stations.
Item D-16 is high priority.
Item D-19 is to be combined
Item D-20 is be considered
On Item D-22 Mr. Porter stated
be removed from C4 zoning.
should have a special zone for
Item D-22 is considered high
priority.. The staff was directed to establish a zone for
service stations. Mr. Porter stated the staff should set
the sign ordinance for a study session, and we should review
the Fountain Valley sign ordinance.
The staff was directed to
prepare a list of goals for the council meeting April 24, 1972.
It was noted that the joint session of the City Council and
Planning Commission will be held at 7:00 P.M. April 24, 1972,
in the Administrative Annex.
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Tuesday, April 18, 1972
Page No. 12
Mr. Reynolds reviewed
the Council agenda for the meeting of April 17, 1972.
DISCUSSION: PROPOSED STANDARD CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR
TENTATIVE TRACTS, APRIL 4, 1972
The Commission
continued discussion of this item to the Study Session of
April 25, 1972.
COMMISSION COMMENTS:
Mr. Porter expressed
concern with the Mazda and. Datsun used car signs. Mr. McFarland
stated that Mazda did not have a permit for the used car signs,
however, the Datsun sign was legal.
Mr. Boyle expressed
a desire to have a follow-up on illegal Mazda sign and to
report back to the Commission.
Mr. McFarland explained
he had had a request for the use of a trailer for a political
headquarters. Mr. Boyle stated that Assemblyman Burke has
had a trailer and there is no need to discriminate for other
political candidates.
Mr. Harlow explained
with reference to the zoning in the Townlot that there was
somewhat in excess of 600 owners which would have to be
notified. The Commission directed Mr. Harlow to take this
item off the May 2, 1972 agenda and wait until after the
meeting with the Council for direction.
Mr. Bazi1 stated the
Commission should draw up a resolution of appreciation for
Mr. Duke.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY
BOYLE AND SECONDED BY HIGGINS TO ADJOURN TO AN INFORMAL MEETING
ON APRIL 24, 1972 AND TO A REGULAR ADJOURNED MEETING ON APRIL
25, 1972.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Porter, Kerins, Higgins, Boyle
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates
THE MOTION CARRIED.
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Chairman
K. A. Reynolds
Secretary
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