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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1972-04-18MINUTES HUNTINGTON BEACH"PLANNING COMMISSION TUESDAY, APRIL 18, 1972 MEMBERS PRESENT: MEMBERS ABSENT: Council Chambers, Civic Center Huntington Beach, California Bazil, Porter, Kerins, Boyle, Higgins Slates A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO ACCEPT THE LETTER OF RESIGNATION OF MR. HENRY DUKE. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Bazil, Porter, NOES: None ABSENT: Slates THE MOTION CARRIED. Kerins, Boyle, Higgins Chairman Porter announced that nominations were open for vice-chairman to fill the position as Mr. Duke has resigned. A MOTION WAS MADE BY BAZIL AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO NOMINATE MR. EDWARD KERINS FOR VICE- CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. A FURTHER MOTION WAS MADE BY HIGGINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO CLOSE THE NOMINATION. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Bazil, Porter, NOES: None ABSENT: Slates THE MOTION CARRIED. The Chair called for the question. Kerins, Boyle, Higgins MINUTES: A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE '_Tb`ACCEPT THE MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 4, 1972 MEETING AS TRANSCRIBED AND DIRECTED THE STAFF TO MAIL THE MINUTES OF THE JANUARY 11, 18, 25, AND FEBRUARY 29, 1972, MEETINGS TO THE COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL. AGENDA ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED OR WITHDRAWN: TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7743 Subdivider: United Properties Investors 15 lots on 2.16 acres of land. The subject property is located on, the northwest corner of the intersection of Marina View Place and Los Patos Avenue. In Conjunction With USE PERMIT NO. 72-6 Applicant: Harbour Heights Company To allow the construction of 15 units, Planned Residential Development, on a 2.16 'acre parcel of land. -1- 4/18/72 - PC Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, April 18, 1972 Page No. 2 The hearing was opened to the audience on Use Permit No. 72-6. The Acting Secretary informed the Commission that additional time was needed for a revision request by the Subdivision Committee -on subject map. -The staff therefore recommends a continuance to June 6th with the applicant's concurrence. A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO CONTINUE TRACT NO. 7743 TO THE JUNE 6, 1972 MEETING. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Bazil, Porter, Kerins, Boyle, Higgins NOES: None ABSENT: Slates THE MOTION CARRIED. A FURTHER MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO'CONTINUE USE PERMIT NO. 72-6 TO THE JUNE 6, 1972 MEETING TO BE HEARD IN CONJUNCTION WITH TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7743. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Bazil, Higgins, NOES: None ABSENT: Slates THE MOTION CARRIED. Porter, Kerins, Boyle TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7771 Subdivider: Meadow Homes 137 lots on 29 acres of land. The subject property is located on the northwest corner of Ellis Avenue and Newland Street. The Acting Secretary informed the Commission that additional -time was needed to allow the City to pursue preserving the bluff that runs through this property as open space. Mr. Harlow stated that the applicant has submitted a letter agreeing to a continuance to the May 2, 1972 meeting. A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO CONTINUE TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7771 TO THE MAY 2, 1972 MEETING. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Bazil, Higgins, NOES: None ABSENT: Slates THE MOTION CARRIED. Porter, Kerins, Boyle TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7755 Subdivider: Tustin Village Incorporated 143 lots on 20 acres of land. The subject property is bounded by Utica Avenue on the north, Delaware Street on the west, Adams Avenue on the south, Florida Street on the east. -2- 4/18/72 - PC CORRECTED COPY Minutes: 11. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, April 18, 1972 Page No. 3 The Acting Secretary informed the Commission that this revised map is before them pursuant to the applicant's request for duplex construction on 6000 sq. ft. lots. Mr. Harlow informed the Commission that a method of conveyance of these dwellings has been investigated by the City Attorney's office and that they are prepared to discuss with the Commission this conveyance of 1/2 of a lot proposed by the developer for this subdivision. Mr. Mevis indicated he had checked with the City of Santa Ana and that this type of construction was considered a poor-man's condominium. He also stated he could find no legal reasons to deny the duplex on a 6000 sq. ft. lot in the R2 District. A lengthy.Planning Commission discussion was held with concern expressed by the Planning Commission on the method of conveyance, landscaped areas, setbacks from the arterial and local streets and elevations as they would appear from all public streets. whether the City could require that all prospective buyers be freeway alignment. Commissioner Porter questioned or condition the map to require made aware of the present It was the consensus of the Planning Commission that as the map before them for review was a legal subdivision for a duplex on a 6000 sq. ft. lot in the R2 Two Family Residence District that they should not be concerned with the method of conveyance of subject property. The Commission also directed the staff to notify the Real Estate Commission and require that the freeway alignment be stated in the Real Estate Report on subject subdivision. Mike Jagger, representing Tustin Village, addressed the Commission and expressed a desire to work with the'City on the method of conveyance of the property. He outlined in great detail the method of conveyance and reviewed a grant deed of similar construction with the Planning Commission. Mr. Jagger informed the Commission that he was proposing the same models as previously reviewed with the Planning Commission at a previous meeting. Additional Commission discussion followed. A MOTION WAS MADE BY HIGGINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO APPROVE TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 7755 WITH CONDITIONS AS OUTLINE BY THE STAFF AND AMENDED. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Porter, Bazil, Higgins, Boyle NOES: Kerins ABSENT: Slates THE MOTION CARRIED. -3- 4/18/72 - PC Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, April 18, 1972 Page No. 4 TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7805 Subdivider: Stellrecht - Bartoli 20 lots on 5 acres of land. The subject property is located north of Pearce Street 663 ft. east of Bolsa Chica Street. The staff presented a vu-graph on the subject property. Mr. Porter indicated there should be a condition that this plan should be submittbd to the Orange County Airport Commission. Mr. Harlow stated it had already been submitted to the Airport Commission. Mr. Winterburg from Valley Consultants was present as the applicant. Mr. Kerins asked what would happen if the Planning Commission approved this plan and the Airport Commission denied it. Mr. Reynolds indicated that the Airport Commission can veto a map but that by four - fifths vote the Planning Commission could overrule the Airport Commission. This plan was submitted to the Airport Commission and it may be a month before we get an answer. Mr. Harlow indicated that access to the subdivision should be subject to the approval of the Department of Public Works. Mr. Palin presented some slides and described the landing and take -off pattern. Mr. Boyle asked what the Airport Commission is looking for. Mr. Reynolds said the Airport Commission is concerned with building height, land use, safety, noise pollution; noise pollution not being a factor here. He also indicated the Airport Commission's functions overlap the Planning Commission's function. The Airport Commission has no staff and they rely on local agencies to supply them with information. Mr. Porter indicated that it appears to be a poor location because of the airport, the surrounding uses, and potential problems. Mr."Bazil explained that at this time this development looks out of place. Mr. Winterburg stated that this is a tentative map and they have complied with the zoning. Mr. Porter explained that the City is concerned here with the general welfare and this map may lead to an increase in problems such as curbing of the airport, noise complaints, etc. -4- 4/18/72 - PC Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, April 18, 1972 Page No. 5 Mr. Bazil indicated that R1 does not appear to be an appropriate use of this property and it should be restudied for another zoning. Mr. Mevis stated that there isn't too much room for discretion if a map meets the code. Mr. Kerins indicated that the general welfare overshadows all other matters. Mr. Mevis asked if he might have time to study the problem of approving this map at this location. A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO CONTINUE TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7805 TO THE MAY 2, 1972 MEETING FOR DECISION ONLY. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Bazil, Higgins, Porter, Kerins, Boyle NOES: None ABSENT: Slates THE MOTION CARRIED. A MOTION WAS'MADE BY BAZIL AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO CONSIDER OTHER USES FOR THIS PROPERTY AND TO INVESTIGATE ALTERNATE ZONING. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Bazil, Porter, NOES: None ABSENT: Slates THE MOTION CARRIED. Kerins, Boyle, Higgins CODE AMENDMENT NO. 72-5 A proposed code amendment which will clarify the residential district designations by redesignating them to low, medium medium high, and high for the R1, R2, R3, and R4 zones respectively, and to renumber Article 925 to Article 940. The hearing was opened to the audience. There being no comment the hearing was closed. A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO ADOPT CODE AMENDMENT NO. 72-5 AND TRANSMIT IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Bazil, Porter, Kerins, Boyle, Higgins NOES: None ABSENT:' Slates THE MOTION CARRIED. -5- - 4/18/72 - PC Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, April 18, 1972 Page No. 6 MISCELLANEOUS: DISCUSSION: LETTER FROM OPRIAN REALTYFREGARDING THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF GOLDENWEST AVENUE AND WARNER AVENUE Mr. -Reynolds addressed the Commission and stated that -this -parcel has had a long history of problems in the attempt to clear the sight for development. At one time it was considered as a Civic Center and Library Site. The.parcel has soil and drainage problems and was considered under; a redevelopment program under state law. It appeared to be a good site for commercial use, - but the City rejected the program to purchase -the property and to resell it for development. This could again be reconsidered as a redevelopment program. It would take approximately $360,000 to consolidate the property. Once the commitment is made the City could accept some pre -options for the sale of this property. The alternatives at this time appear to be to proceed with'a redevelopment program and to continue to farm the property. Mr.,Kerins stated that he would like to look at this property at the time the Master Plan is reviewed. Mr. Porter said he would like to make the City Administrator aware of this. property. - Mr. Boyle indicated the Commission should take this matter up in due time with the land use studies. A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE LETTER FROM MR. OPRIAN. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Bazil, Porter, NOES: None ABSENT: Slates THE MOTION CARRIED. Kerins Boyle, Higgins The staff was further directed to advise Mr. Oprian of the Planning Commission's intent to review the site during the Master Plan Review. DISCUSSION: A PLAN OF PROPOSED OPEN SPACE RECREATION AREA AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF ADAMS AVENUE AND BEACH BOULEVARD, A PORTION OF TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7742. Mr. Harlow discussed attempts to preserve portions of the bluff. Mr. Hartge explained that the problem originates with the desire of the Public .Works Department to obtain a drainage facility for this area. ._ __,One_plan was instigated to have an open channel following the -6- 4/18/72 - PC Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, April 18, 1972 Page No. 7 curvature of the bluff. The Environmental Council desires to maintain an open space at this bluff line. Another alternative is to create a box channel across the property and through the school site. It was indicated that the school site may not go into this quarter section, which may lead to the possibility that the park site will also not go into this quarter section. This would lead to a necessity of redesigning the subdivision. Mr. Hartge presented three alternate plans. He indicated that the plan that was selected by the Recreation and Parks Commission, Alternate No. 2, was a plan that would reserve the weeds and reeds for those who are interested in that sort of thing. It would also preserve the low area adjacent to Adams Avenue. Mr. Boyle stated it appeared we are trying to attain several projects at the same time. Mr. Harlow said there was a drainage project and an open space project. Mr. Hartge explained that the area if intended to be an open space area may find the demand of the residents who will be moving in to be for a full-blown park site. Mr. Harlow indicated the immediate need was to establish a line between -the subdivision and the flood control channel. Mr. Boyle stated he would like to wait until the Environmental Council took a position on this project. Mr. Kerins would like a report from the Environmental Council on the project. Mr. Reynolds explained that this entire quarter section could be placed under a planned development zoning and that this channel could be part of the open space project. He stated there is no need to have,a standard subdivision in this quarter section. A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO REFER THIS PLAN TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL COUNCIL FOR A REPORT AND TO CONTINUE IT TO MAY 2, 1972. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Bazil, Porter, Kerins, Boyle, Higgins NOES: None ABSENT: Slates THE MOTION CARRIED. The Chair acknowledged Mr. Henry Duke to address the Commission. Mr. Duke related his thanks for the good relationship they have had in the past four years in the Commission. He stated he would like to maintain this relationship. -7- 4/18/72 - PC Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, April 18, 1972 Page No. 8 DISCUSSION: PRECISE PLAN OF STREETS FOR THE INDUSTRIAL .ZONED PROPERTY SOUTH OF SLATER AND EAST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS, THE EXTENSION OF SPEER AVENUE. Mr. Murphy stated the need to review this for a precise plan. He indicated the Planning Commission approved a horse stable here and required additional right-of-way on Speer Avenue. The need now is to determine what will become of Speer Avenue. Mr. Murphy presented alternates on the Speer Alignment. Mr. Bazil preferred the alignment tying Speer Avenue to the industrial area but said we should not go south to the encyclopedia lots. 13 Mr. Harlow explained they should probably set the northerly portion of Spear Avenue for public hearing and adopt a resolution as to alignment on the southerly portion to the encyclopedia lots. A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY BAZIL TO SET THE PRECISE PLAN FOR THE NORTHERLY ALIGNMENT OF.SPEER AVENUE FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF INTENT AS TO THE SOUTHERLY ALIGNMENT OF THE STREETS DOWN THROUGH THE ENCYCLOPEDIA LOTS. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Kerins, Bazil, Porter, Higgins, Boyle NOES: None ABSENT: Slates THE MOTION CARRIED. TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7639 - Review of Elevations Subdivider: McKeon Construction Company In Conjunction With USE PERMIT NO. 71-50 - Review of Elevations Applicant: McKeon Construction Company Mr. Palin reviewed the plot plan and elevations with the Commission. Mr. Darrel Boyer, representing the applicant, indicated he will have colored renderings for presentation to the Planning Commission. Mr. Boyle expressed a desire to wait for the renderings. Mr. Higgins stated he•was ready to vote at this time and there was no reason to wait. Mr. Boyer expressed a willingness to wait for two weeks. A MOTION -WAS MADE BY BAZIL AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO CONTINUE TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7639 AND USE PERMIT NO. 71-50 TO MAY 2, 1972 TO REVIEW THE ELEVATIONS AND RENDERINGS. -8- 4/18/72 - PC Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, April 18, 1972 Page No. 9 ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Bazil, Porter, Kerins, Boyle, Higgins NOES: None ABSENT: Slates THE MOTION CARRIED. COUNTY ZONE CASE NO. 72-5 Mr. Harlow stated that this is for information only, and that the county's C2 zone is some- what unrestrictive and the Orange County Planning Department is recommending approval of this zone case from C2 to R4. A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THIS COMMUNIQUE. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Bazil, Porter, Kerins, Boyle, Higgins NOES: None ABSENT: Slates THE MOTION CARRIED. DISCUSSION: .PLANNING COMMISSION GOALS FOR 1972 Mr. Harlow said that he would run through the items on the goals statements and would like the Planning Commission either to agree or delete the problems. (All items listed in "Goals" are assumed to be as stated unless otherwise changed below.) As to item C5, the Commission indicated the property owner should submit plans and then a priority would be set. The City is not desirous of a piece- meal approach on this property. A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY HIGGINS TO DIRECT THE STAFF TO PREPARE A POLICY RESOLUTION TO REQUIRE A MASTER PLAN OF THE SIGNAL PROPERTIES AND TO DISCOURAGE A PIECE -MEAL APPROACH, AND TO DELETE ITEM 5 FROM THE GOALS LIST. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Bazil, Porter, Kerins, Boyle, Higgins NOES: None ABSENT: Slates THE MOTION CARRIED. Item B-11 was referred to the City Engineer for a report and the need to determine where the bridges would be required. A MOTION WAS MADE BY BOYLE AND SECONDED BY KERINS TO REFER ITEM B-11 TO THE CITY ENGINEER AND DELETE THIS ITEM FROM THE GOALS. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Bazil, Porter, NOES: None ABSENT: Slates THE MOTION CARRIED. Kerins, Boyle, Higgins -9- 4/18/72 - PC Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, April 18, 1972 Page No. 10 On Items B-12 and B=13 the staff is to pursue the use of -consultants to do these studies. Item B-10 is being worked on by the Environmental Council, the Administrator, and the Planning Director, -and it is to be discussed with the City Council on April 24, 1972. Item C-4 should be placed under housing, which -is Item B-7_and delete the reference to the -single family home. Item C-5-d is to be deleted. Item C-5-e should possibly require that a bond be filed to guarantee the landscaping does not die. Mr. Hartge indicated the present method for acceptance of landscaping is adequate and the Commission should not stipulate a time of one year. The Commission indicated a desire to discuss C-5-e 'at a future study session. On Item C-6 the Commission discussed the possibility of referring this to the underground utilities Commission to consider the areas for undergrounding and consolidating. Mr. Porter created a Committee composed of Mr. Porter, Mr. Kerins, and Mr. Boyle to act as a subcommittee of the Commission to study this problem and to recommend to the Underground Utilities Commission the areas for undergrounding and consolidating. On Item C-7 it is understood the City Administrator is working on this project and Mr. Kerins stated he would like to participate in this project and it should be left on the list. A MOTION WAS MADE BY; KERINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO DIRECT THE STAFF TO SEND A COMMUNIQUE TO THE CITY. ADMINISTRATOR STATING THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO BE INVOLVED IN ITEM C-7. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Bazil, Porter, Kerins, Higgins, Boyle NOES: None ABSENT: Slates THE MOTION CARRIED. On Item C-13 the Planning Commission would like to be brought up to date on this item. Mr. Bazil stated the Planning Commission would like a status report on this program. Mr. Kerins indicated this should be a list of projects established. The staff was directed to prepare such a list and to update the Com- mission from time -to -time on the status of such projects. -10- 4/18/72 - PC Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, April 18, 1972 Page No. 11 On Item C-15 Mr. Kerins indicated the Planning Commission subcommittee had recommended R1, 10,000 sq. ft. lots such as other cities have done. This should be carried to a study session agenda. Mr. Boyle stated this should be a low priority item. Mr. Kerins said this should be a high priority item. Mr. Harlow explained this could be reviewed when Areas "A" and "B" are studied. On Item C-17 Mr. Boyle is concerned with transportation and indicated the transportation is really a cooperation among several counties. He stated the Commission should apply pressure to higher levels on a regional basis. Also there is no need for us to be wed to the automobile. Item _C-13 is to be tied into the conservation and historic site elements of the general plan. It is to be combined with item 3 and entitled "Conservation -Historic" Item D-7 is high priority. Item D-10 and D-12 are to be considered medium priority and to be combined. Item D-11 is to be medium priority. Item D-13 is medium priority with the attorney being,directed to study contract zoning, spot zoning, and conditional zoning. On Item D-15 the staff and attorney were directed to research the San Diego School Dedication arrangement. with Item C-18. low priority. that service stations should Mr. Bazil indicated the City service stations. Item D-16 is high priority. Item D-19 is to be combined Item D-20 is be considered On Item D-22 Mr. Porter stated be removed from C4 zoning. should have a special zone for Item D-22 is considered high priority.. The staff was directed to establish a zone for service stations. Mr. Porter stated the staff should set the sign ordinance for a study session, and we should review the Fountain Valley sign ordinance. The staff was directed to prepare a list of goals for the council meeting April 24, 1972. It was noted that the joint session of the City Council and Planning Commission will be held at 7:00 P.M. April 24, 1972, in the Administrative Annex. -11- 4/18/72 - PC Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, April 18, 1972 Page No. 12 Mr. Reynolds reviewed the Council agenda for the meeting of April 17, 1972. DISCUSSION: PROPOSED STANDARD CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR TENTATIVE TRACTS, APRIL 4, 1972 The Commission continued discussion of this item to the Study Session of April 25, 1972. COMMISSION COMMENTS: Mr. Porter expressed concern with the Mazda and. Datsun used car signs. Mr. McFarland stated that Mazda did not have a permit for the used car signs, however, the Datsun sign was legal. Mr. Boyle expressed a desire to have a follow-up on illegal Mazda sign and to report back to the Commission. Mr. McFarland explained he had had a request for the use of a trailer for a political headquarters. Mr. Boyle stated that Assemblyman Burke has had a trailer and there is no need to discriminate for other political candidates. Mr. Harlow explained with reference to the zoning in the Townlot that there was somewhat in excess of 600 owners which would have to be notified. The Commission directed Mr. Harlow to take this item off the May 2, 1972 agenda and wait until after the meeting with the Council for direction. Mr. Bazi1 stated the Commission should draw up a resolution of appreciation for Mr. Duke. A MOTION WAS MADE BY BOYLE AND SECONDED BY HIGGINS TO ADJOURN TO AN INFORMAL MEETING ON APRIL 24, 1972 AND TO A REGULAR ADJOURNED MEETING ON APRIL 25, 1972. ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: Bazil, Porter, Kerins, Higgins, Boyle NOES: None ABSENT: Slates THE MOTION CARRIED. k . . __ — 4Q = or er Chairman K. A. Reynolds Secretary -12- 4/18/72 - PC