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HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
Council Chambers, Civic.Center
Huntington Beach, California
TUESDAY,, JUNE 2-Ls 1972 - STUDY SESSION
COMMI�5IONERS PRESENT: Bazil, Kerins, Porter, Boyle, Higgins, Slates
9MMISSIONERS ABSENT: None
NOTE: A TAPE, EECOliDING OF THIS MEETING 1S ON FIEF; IN THE
PLANNING DEPARTMENT OFFICE.
MI U'F�S: The minutes of May 23, 1972 were accepted as transcribed.
DISCUSSION: An oral presentation of the "Open Space and Conservation
Plan Phase II" by Jim Funk of the Orange County Plan-
ning Department. This plan has been accepted by the Orange _County
Planning Commission in June 1972. The Orange County Planning Staff
requests comments, reaction and input from Huntington Beach :Plan-
ning Commission for their public hearing before the Orange County
Board of Supervisors on June 28, 1972.
Jere Murphy, Planning Department, introduced Mr. Jim
Funk. Mr. Funk indicated that Orange County has been studying this
open space plan for one and one-half years. Mr. Funk then referred
to several sections of the report; specifically, Appendix G on
page 121 of the Phase II 1972 report. He then reviewed the Phase
II report maps. He further indicated that controls should be
established which measure the allowable impact to the environment.
After going through the report with the Commt::sioners, Mr. Funk
requested some form of support.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY BOYLE AND SECONDED BY KERINS TO
ADOPT BY RESOLUTION, THE CONCEPTLJAL PLAN OF THE OPEN SPACE AND
CONSERVATION PLAN - PHASE II.
Commissioner Slates arrived to the meeting.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Kerins,
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Slates
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
Porter, Boyle, Higgins
A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE
TO DIRECT THE STAFF TO REVIEW PHASE II REPORT AND CONSIDER ALL
RECOMMENDATIONS IN THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ALL FURTHER DEVELOP-
MENT.
NOLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Kerins, ]Boyle, Porter, Higgins
NOH'S : None
ABSTAIN: Slates
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
The Open Space study was to be directed to be placed
or, th,-: E'l r•s t :Study Session in July. The chair designated Mrs. Wallin
as the orf1 clal carrier of the Planning Commission's resolution for
the Supervisors meeting on June 28, 1972 at 10:30 a.m.
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Tuesday, June 27, 1972
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TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7850 and USE PERMIT NO. 72-26
`uUbdivider: Huntington Harbgur Coro.
This request is to review a tentative map for approval
action pursuant to Condition #18 of the Conditions of Approval.
It was indicated that the Condition #2 is in conflict
with Condition-k-and that Condition #14 would lead to an increase
in parking•spaces provided by .5 spaces per unit. And that the
applicant--has-increased-this by .4 spaces per unit.
Mr. -Harlow, Planning Department, reviewed the changes
on the map and•indicated that they had changed from 54 residential
units to 52.
Commissioner Porter indicated that he was satisfied with
the original parking allocation. -
Commissioner Higgins indicated that a lack of -increased
parking would lead to an increase of congestion. This would be a
detriment to the overall development. He stated that the distribu-
tion of guest parking has not been good.
Considerable discussion was held as to the distribution
of parking as opposed to,the number of parking spaces. The open
vistas'of 30 ft. wide and several such openings,is preferred by
the architect to -be more desirable than one large vista. The arch-
itect would like to provide one boat slip per unit.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY HIGGINS AND SECONDED BY KERINS TO
REQUIRE'THE FOLLOWING:
1. That a decrease of two units -along the main channel be
incorporated to lead to an expanding of vistas.
2. To decrease the open parking along Edinger side of the project.
This would lead to an increase in the green area along
Edinger.
3. To review the possibility of consolidating the parking
structure by the tennis courts which would lead to an increase
in the open space.
4. To increase the guest parking and the parking structures
noted above.
_5. To provide parking with the least encroachment into the,
green area.
ROLL CALL'VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Boyle, Slates, Kerins, Higgins, Porter
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
Considerable discussion was then held on the requirement
of an environmental impact statement.
Mr. Fenton addressed the Commission and asked what is
required as to the environmental impact. He indicated that we
are using a term that is not defined, mainly the "environmental
impact statement".
Commissioner Porter indicated that he was concerned with
circulation of the back area water and with the water quality.
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Tuesday, June 27, 1972
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Commissioner Boyle indicated that the Corps of
Engineers would probably have a program as to environmental
Impact.
The Chair directed the staff to seek the answers to
the environmental questions and to express interest in this
statement to the Corps of Engineers.
Mr. Nichols indicated that parallel or independent
agencies require considerable study. He indicated that they
need discharge permits, Coast Guard permits for the construction
of the channel and for de-waterization of the channel for con-
struction.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY BAZIL TO
AMEND CONDITION #12 TO INFORM THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS THAT THEY
WOULD BE MOVING AHEAD WITH THE MAP BASED ON THE ANSWER.
ROLL CALL VOTE: _
AYES: Bazil, Boyle, Porter, Higgins, Slates
NOES: Kerins
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
it was noted that on July 19, 1972, Golden West College
was to hold a hed:ring on an Environmental Impact Statement as to
reactivation of Los Alamitos Airport.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY BOYLE AND SECONDED BY KERINS TO
STATE Ib' THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS DOES NOT REQUIRE AN ENVIRON-
MENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT THAT THE DEVELOPER SHOULD ANSWER THE
QUESTIONS AS REQUIRED BY THE STATE.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Higgins, Kerins, Porter, Boyle, Bazil
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
DCSCUSSION: Tentative Tract No. 7771 (Hearing continued to
July 5, 1972)
The revised layout has provided for the bluff
and midden as an open space through subject tract. This review
is to apprise the Commission of current negotiation of subject
tract.
Mr. Harlow, Planning, Department, reviewed the snap with
ro-spect to the bluff areas, trees, and archeological sites.
The Administrator is to pursue acquisition but would
like the Commission to respond to the resubmitted map for further
direction.
Commissioner Kerins indicated that he is only interested
in the bluff.
Commissioner Bazil indicated that the solution for this
development of' this property is a -PD suffix.
Commissioner Boyle wanted to add the condition to require
that colleges and universities be afford the opportunity to explore
the property first.
Ken Reynolds, Planning Director, indicated that the
Planning Commission should initiate a rezone to -PD.
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Tuesday, June 27, 1972
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Commissioner Porter wanted to have a meeting with the
City Administrator so as not to hold up transmittals from the
Planning Commission to the City Council.
The Chair directed the staf'1' to advertise for a -PD
suffix zoning.
_. _ Commissioner Higgins indicated that there are ways to
design without loosing open space.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO
MOVE TO SET FOR A ZONE CHANGE FROM R1 TO Rl-PD.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Higgins,
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
Porter, Kerins, Bazil, Boyle
Ken Reynolds indicated that the issue is really the
entire bluff.
The Chair indicated that the staff should look into the''
slope ordinance; stating further that this is one way to permit
a development on certain,percentage grade. Also that the staff
should study alternatives to our bluff ordinance.
DISCUSSION: Code Amendment No. 72-12 "Service Station Suffix"
A MOTION WAS MADE BY HIGGINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO
CONTINUE THIS ITEM UNTIL ORDINANCES ARE OBTAINED FROM OTHER JURIS-
DICTIONS.
DISCUSSION: Development of two twenty-five (25) foot lots in
the R2 District within the Townlot area held under
the same ownership. Proposed development to be two (2) detached
single-family dwellings to conform with yard requirements of a
25 ft. lot.
Jim Palin, Planning Department, presented the vu-graphs
of proposed layouts on twenty-five foot with respect to the six
(6) applications before the Board of Zoning Adjustments. It was
further -indicated that this would require zero side yard setback
waiver -and required a means of conveyance.
- 11 It was asked if within the R2 the Commission would
want this type of development.
Commi'ssione r Bazil indicated that he would like -to
have the` other side yard setback have a normal five (5) .foot -set-
back. '
Mr. McFarland indicated that there would be a decrease
in density from three units to two,units. And that there would
be a pride of ownership.
It was indicated that the Planning Commission concurred
wLth this concept. The staff was directed to move ahead with the
Code Amendment.
`!.'hone indicating to be , to favor o f concept of five or'
-Ix toot yard were: Slates, Bazil, Kerins, Boyle, and Higgins.'
Against: Porter.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY BOYU,1 AND SECONDED BY HIGGINS TO
DIRECT THE STAFF TO PREPARE A CODE AMENDMENT FOR THIS CONCEPT.
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ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Bazil, Boyle, 1,orins, Higgins, Porter
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENT NO. 72-14 TO S.9764.5.6 (Open House Signs)
SIGN ORDINANCE AND S.9730,20 (Home Ogeunation):
Mr. McFarland indicated that he would like to forestall
temporarily because the City Administrator would be forwarding
this to the Chamber of Commerce to establish a committee to
recommend.
Commissioner Slates indicated 50% of sales are from
a sign. The real estate profession should come up with a solution.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY BAZIL AND SECONDED BY KERINS TO
CONTINUE UNTIL THE COMMISSION COMES UP WITH AN ANSWER.
It was indicated that Chuck Delving would like to come
up with the solution.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Boyle, Slates, Higgins, Porter, Kerins
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
POLE SIGN: Pole sign_for a liquor sign at the northeast corner
of Beach Boulevard and Ellis Avenue behind the Jack -
in -the -Box.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY BAZIL TO
APPROVE BECAUSE THE SIGN CONFORMS WITH THE ORDINANCE.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Higgins, Kerins, Pb rte r, Boyle, Bazil
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner Higgins asked why are sign permits coming
before the Commission.
Commissioner Porter indicated that because of the
secondary signs that are being constructed.
Commissioner Boyle further indicated that administrators
make decisions as to the interpretations of the legislative
advisory bodies and that they get a feeling of what the Planning
Commission wishes by bringing these sign permits before the
Commission.
COD AMENDMENT N0, 72-14 The Commission went back to the item
for proposed Code Amendment No. 72-14
relative to the Home Occupation. It was discussed that the code
amendment had two sections in it: one pertained to open house
signs and the other pertained to home occupation and possibly
the Commission would wish to continue the section relative to
open house signs but allow the home occupation provisions to
move ahead.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY BOYLE AND SECONDED BY SLATES TO
SET CODE AMENDMENT NO. 72-14 RELATIVE TO THE HOME OCCUPATION FOR
PUBLIC HEARING.
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ROLL CALL VOTE:
A17ES: Slates, Higgins, Kerins, Porter, Boyle, Bazil
NOES: None
ABSENT: lone
THE MOTION CARRIED.
MISCELLANEOUS:
A MOTION WAS MADE BY HIGGINS AND SECONDED BY SLATES TO
RECOMMEND A MORATORIUM ON RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS BETWEEN 17th
STREET AND GOLDENWEST AVENUE AND BETWEEN PALM AVENUE AND PACIFIC
COAST HIGHWAY FOR 120 DAYS FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS:
1. To resolve the assessment district.
2. To get results from the Townlot Study.
BIA MEETING: It was noted that there would be a BIA meeting.
Commissioners'Kerin's,'Hi;gins*`Slates, Bazil, and Boyle
and Mrs. Wallin signed up to attend.
SERVICE STATION AT ADAMS AND MAGNOLIA: Commissioner Kerins discussed
the Use Permit for the
re -opening of service station at Adams and Magnolia. Question:
Would this meet the new standards?
PEPPERDINE LAW SCHOOL: Commissioner Mates discussed the editorial
of Pepperdine Law School. He indicated
that Pepperdine has contacted them to locate in Huntington Beach.
It was indicated that a major landowner may want to donate land
to the law school. They would probably need between 25-30 acres.
It was indicated that the staff should contact Pepperdine to find
out the requirements for a site to develop a law school. This
should go to the City Administrator Mr. Rowlands. The chair
directed that this action should be taken.
CQMMISSIONERS COMMENTS: Commissioner Boyle was interested in
flood plain zoning and would like to
know more about it and also some staff direction as to what the
Planning Commission should be doing with regard to flood plain zoning.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THE MEETING ADJOURNED AT 12:15 A.M.
K. A. Reynolds
Secretary
M. M. Porter
Chairman
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