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HUNTINGTON REACH PLANNING COMMISSION
Council Chambers, Civic Center
Huntington Beach, California
WEDNESDAY9 JULY 5, 1972
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Slates, Bazil, Kerins, Porter, Boyle
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Higgins
NOTE: A TAPE RECORDING 0P THIS MEETING IS ON FILE IN THE
PLANNING DEPARTMENT OFFICE.
ELECTION OF OFFICERS:
A MOTION WAS MADE BY BOYLE AND SECONDED BY SLATES TO
POSTPHONE THE ELECTION UNTIL BAZIL ARRIVED. ,
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Kerins, Porter, Boyle
NOES: None
ABSENT: Higgins, Bazil
THE MOTION CARRIED.
AGENDA ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED OR WITHDRAWN:
ZONE CASE NO. 72-18
Applicant: Huntington Beach Company
The Staff informed the Planning Commission that due
to an oversight Zone Cdse No. 72-19 had been set for hearing
on July 18; 1972 and that Zone Case No. 72-18 should be heard
concurrently with Zone Case No. 72-19.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY KERINS
TO CONTINUE ZONE CASE NO. 72-18 TO JULY 18, 1972.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Kerins, Porter, Boyle
NOES: None
ABSENT: Higgins, Bazil
THE MOTION CARRIED.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7899
In Conjunction With
USE PERMIT NO. 72-35
Subdivider: Godfrey and Associates, Incorporated
The subject property is located at the northwest
corner of Lochlea Lane and Jenny Drive in the R2 Two Family
Residence District.
The request is to permit 50 lots on 4.75 acres of
planned unit development. The use permit is to allow con-
struction of a planned unit development consisting of 50
units and related facilities on a 4.75 gross acre parcel
of land.
Mr. Palin, Planning Department, presented vu-graphs.
Mr. Harlow, Acting Secretary of the Planning Com-
mission, explained the location and the request with the
alternatives for the precise plan alignment of the street.
He also indicated that the commissioners should review this
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,request as to the circulation of the area: Mr. Harlow noted
'chat the staff recommends alternative number 2; the cul-de-sac
design of Cupar.
The chair made reference to the original submittal
as alternate number one, alternate number 2 is the cul-de-sac
.of Cupar, and connecting both streets would be alternate number
3.
The chair opened the public hearing.
Mr. Arthur Sullivan indicated that he preferred to
use alternate number 2 plan. His only concern was that the
street was widened and this would lead to a decrease in the
open space on -site.
Mr. Fred Ward indicated that he is not opposed to the
development of the property but is concerned with some of the
details. He did not like the possibility of having open
garages facing the public street because people generally leave
their garage doors open. He recommended to the Commission
that it consider the possibility of having a block wall with-
out a sidewalk on the north side of the street.
Commissioner Kerins asked if Mr. Ward would like
alternate number 2 if the street were wider.
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Mr. Ward responded only if the circulation problem
,can be solved.
There being no further speakers, the chairman closed
the hearing.
Commissioner Boyle asked how the drainage was estab-
lished on Cupar. He further asked if the water would back-up
on Cupar where the block wall would be constructed.
Commissioner Porter indicated that the drainage
problem should be looked into very carefully.
Mr. Spencer, Public Works Department, indicated,that
the run-off in the field is also a part of the problem and
that when the development occurs, this run-off problem will
be eased.
Commissioner Kerins asked if widening the street would
lead to a decrease in the on -site open space for the development.
Mr. Harlow indicated, no; that the development could
still come under the code provisions.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO
DIRECT THE SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER ALTERNATE #2 WITH
.THE PROVISION THAT THE EXTENSION OF BANFF BE 40 FT. WIDE AND
'THE CUL-DE-SACING OF CUPAR. ALSO THAT THE DRAINAGE BE REVIEWED
AND NO SIDEWALK BE ON THE NORTH SIDE. IT WAS NOTED THAT THE
-SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE WILL BE MEETING ON JULY 27, 1972.
P011. CALL VOTE:
Slates, Kerins, Porter, Boyle
NOES: None
ABSENT: Higgins, Bazil,
THE MOTION CARRIED.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO
CONTINUE TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7899 AND USE PERMIT NO.-72-35 TO
THE AUGUST 15, 1972 MEETING WITH CONCURRENCE OF THE DEVELOPER.
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ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Kerins, Porter, Boyle
NOES: None
ABSENT: Bazil, Higgins
THE MOTION CARRIED.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7596
Subdivider: Larwin Southern California, Incorporated
The subject property is located east of Newland
Street and south of Garfield Avenue. The request is for
396 lots on 89.3 acres.
The applicant, Mr. Daryl Dalton, was present to
speak in behalf of the developer.
Commissioner Porter indicated that the block wall
would be more appropriate than a wooden fence as indicated
by Condition 7. It was requested that the word "wood" be
eliminated from that Oondition in preference for the word
"masonry". Also Condition 4 was amended to put a time
limit of one year.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY KERINS
TO APPROVE TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7596 WITH THE FOLLOWING
CONDITIONS:
1. The tentative map received June 23, 1972, shall be
the approved layout.
2. The area north of Yorktown Avenue, except the 12 acres
east of the Edison right-of-way, shall not be developed
until an agreement is reached regarding the method of
constructing major drainage facilities for this area.
3. A soil report prepared by an approved soil engineer shall
be submitted to the Department of Public Works prior to
recordation of any pportion of the tract. All portions
of the land not satisfactory,for building shall be excluded.
4. Lot 97 through 101 shall be designated as one lot on the
final map and reserved for park site purposes. The City
shall acquire this park site within one Kl) year or this
condition shall become void.
5. The median along Garfield Avenue shall be landscaped
and improved to Planning Department and Department of
Public Works' requirements. Such landscaping shall include
the bulb at the intersection of "AA" Street.
6. The street right-of-way along Garfield Avenue, across
the Southern California Edison Company easement, shall be
fully improved to Department of Public Works' requirements.
7. A 6 ft. high masonry wall shall be constructed along the
rear of the lots backing onto the Newland School Site.
Also a concrete strip shall be installed between the
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existing chain link fence and the new wood frame' or wall.
8. All Standard Conditions of Approval for tentative tract
maps that are applicable shall be complied with.
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31'-L CALL VOTE:
Slates, Kerins, Porter, Boyle
NOES: None
ABSENT: Bazil, Higgins
THE MOTION CARRIED.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7771
Subdivider: Meadow Homes
The subject property is located at the northwest corner
of Ellis Avenue and Newland Street. The request is for 137
lots on 29 acres.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY KERINS TO
DENY TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7771 FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON:
1. S.11549.5 (c) of map act; specifically, that the site is
not suitable for this development.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Kerins, Porter, Boyle
NOES: None
ABSENT: Bazil, Higgins
THE MOTION CARRIED.
The chair directed the Planning Director to forward
the previous Planning Commission transmittal to the City Council
with this denial.
Commissioner Bazil arrived at 8:06 p.m.
ZONE CASE NO. 72-17
Applicant: Leonard Lindborg
The subject property is located at 401 llth Street
(corner of llth and Orange). The request is a change of zone
from C3 General Business District to R3 Limited Multiple Family
Residence District.
The hearing was opened to the audience.
The reason given by the applicant was that the property
is not suitable for commercial because of lot size and will
conform to the use of adjacent buildings.
Mr. Reeves, real estate broker representing himself,
indicated that he favored the zone change because this develop-
ment would conform to the surrounding area.
There being no further speakers, the chair closed
the public hearing.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY BOYLE TO
APPROVE THE ZONE CASE REQUEST FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS:
1. The request conforms to the immediate land use.
�. ) ft. lot is physically impossible to develop for
because of the parking requirement.
s. Tfie request conforms to the master plan.
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ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Porter, Kerins, Boyle, Bazil
NOES: None
ABSENT: Higgins
THE MOTION CARRIED.
CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 72-38 (Appeal)
Applicant: Heath & Company, Incorporated
The subject property is located on the south side
of Edinger Avenue, approximately 155 ft. west of Springdale
Street in the C2 Community Business District.
The request is to permit the erection of a fourth -
free -standing sign 161 sq. ft. in size along Edinger Avenue,
to come within 2 ft. of the side property line°in lieu of the
requitement that there be only one free-standing sign per
building along a street frontage and that the:sign be set
back from the side property line a minimum of -83.5 ft.
The reasons given by applicant are that signs are
a permitted use. The site could have been created into
numerous parcels and conceivably have more free-standing signs.
This could go on Springdale without this request. The major
thoroughfare is,Edinger and businesses must identify them-
selves to that street. The location as requested will be
an'aid to the public welfar&-;a&nd zt6t create any public nuisance.
It will be out of the way of the traffic flow.
Mr. Palin, Planning Department, explained the sign
consolidation.
Mrs. Wallin indicated that this site is not up to
standards with reference to landscaping, parking and traffic
circulation. She asked the attorneyy Mr. Mevis, if this
stopping center could be brought up,to code as a condition
or approval.
Mr. Mevis indicated that he was uncertain as whether
this could be,a condition of approval because of the 50%
structural expansion requirement before upgrading.
The public hearing was opened to the audience.
-Mr. Jack Lloyd, representing the sign company, spoke
in behalf of the request and indicated that the combination
sign is the preferred sign and that the alternate on Spring-
dale is acceptable.
Mrs. Wallin asked if the sign company would lower the
sign height and still be acceptable.
Mr. Lloyd responded, yes, but not too low.
Commissioner Boyle asked if this were a hardship.
Mr. Lloyd responded that he would like to identify
the use.
Being no further comments, the chair closed the
public hearing.
Commissioner Kerins asked what percentage of banking
institutions used pole signs.
Commissioner Boyle stated that they should consolidate
all signs in the center.
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1 MOTION WAS MADE BY BOYLE AND SECONDED BY BAZIL TO
DENY CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 72-38 FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS:
1. There is no economic hardship.
2. Tt goes against Planning Commission policy.
3. Similar banking institutions do not use such signs.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Boyle, Kerins, Porter
NOES: Slates
ABSENT: Higgins
THE MOTION CARRIED.
Mr. Lloyd then requested or suggested that to consolidate
all signs for that shopping center would be a hardship. That
the multi -users would not be in agreement.
Mr. McFarland, Building Department, indicated that
there is amortization of 10 years starting from August 1969.
Commissioner Boyle indicated that he would like to have
pole sign permits on the said Planning Commission agenda.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY BOYLE AND SECONDED BY KERINS TO
PLACE "SIGN PERMIT" ON JULY 11 STUDY SESSION AGENDA.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Boyle,
NOES: None
ABSENT: Higgins
THE MOTION CARRIED.
Kerins, Porter, Slates
The attorney was then directed to review the upgrading
of older shopping centers by way of sign permits or by way of
sign permit approvals.
Mr. Reynolds, Planning Director, indicated that this
request is for review of non -conforming uses. And that section
of the code needs serious review.
Commissioner Slates indicated that a previous attorney,
Lou Ann Marshall, had written a le al opinion as to the upgrading
of older shopping centers as a condition of approval.
.DISCUSSION: Study of Central Industrial Area - Lower Portion.
(Continued from June 20, 1972)
Mr. Harlow discussed the alternate routes for the
freeway as adopted. It was indicated that alternates 3 and
4 assume that there will -be no Coast Freeway.
Discussion was held as a possibility of a regional
shopping center along Goldenwest and Mansion.
Mr. Back, of the Economic Development Department,
indicated that the shopping center would be predicated upon
the location of the freeway. He further indicated that
Huntington Beach is in the top ten for regional sales. This
has led to increase in Huntington Beach interest by shopping
center developers. He further stated there is further need
for commercial users with the population which is growing
around Goldenwest Street and Palm Avenue.
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Commissioner Porter indicated that the new
freeway alignment may make the 'industrial property
along the railroad tracks and Garfield Avenue much more
competitive with the Lusk development.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY BOYLE AND SECONDED BY KERINS
TO DIRECT THE STAFF TO PURSUE ALTERNATE NUMBER 4.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Boyle,
NOES: None
ABSENT: Higgins
THE MOTION CARRIED.
Kerins, Porter, Slates
ELECTION OF OFFICERS:
Commissioner Slates nominated the existing officers
to retain their office by unanimous vote. It was seconded
by Commissioner Bazil.
It was indicated that the nomination be held separ-
ately for each office.
Commissioner Slates nominated Commissioner Porter
to retain the chair. It was seconded by Commissioner Bazil.
Commissioner Boyle nominated Commissioner- Kerins
Vice -Chairman. It was seconded by Commissioner Slates.
Commissioner Bazil moved to close the nomination.
It was indicated by Mr. Harlow that there would be
a secret ballot.
Commissioner Slates moved to request the unanimous
ballot for the person who gets the secret ballot. It was
seconded by Commissioner Boyle.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY KERINS
TO RETAIN PORTER AS CHAIRMAN.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Boyle,
NOES: None
ABSENT: Higgins
THE MOTION CARRIED.
Kerins, Porter, Slates
A MOTION WAS MADE BY BOYLE AND SECONDED BY SLATES
TO NOMINATE KERINS AS VICE-CHAIRMAN BY UNANIMOUS BALLOT.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Boyle,
NOES: None
ABSENT: Higgins
THE MOTION CARRIED.
Kerins, Porter, Slates
Mr. Harlow indicated that the UCI letter referenced
a program that the committee might be interested in attend-
ing. It was indicated that Commissioner Porter, Mrs. Wallin,
and Commissioner Boyle would attend the UCI conference.
The resolution by the Local Agency Formation
Commission was discussed 4 the Commission.
Mr. Reynolds discussed the equestrian standards and
the Council vote. He indicated that there were 3 votes on
the Council directing the attorney to prepare an ordinance.
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But. that if the decision was made as to adoption of that ordi-
n,_:cc, that they do not have 4 votes to adopt. And that it
appeared the Code Amendment may be held in abeyance until Sept-
ember. It was further noted that if the emphasis should be on
jogging and bicycle trails.
The staff was directed to send a letter of appreciation
to Gulf Oil for the sign removal.
Mrs. Wallin discussed the San Diego service station
standards and indicated that there is a 10% landscaping require-
ment.
It was indicated that the Planning Commission should
attend the general conference to be held at Disneyland by the
California League of Cities.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THE COMMISSION ADJOURNED AT
9:30 P.M.
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K. A. Reynolds
Secretary
4,60. A Anil
Marcus M. Porter
Chairman
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