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HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
Council Chambers, Civic Center
Huntington Beach, California
TUESDAY, AUGUST 15, 1972 - Regular Meeting
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT:
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT:
Slates, Kerins, Porter, Higgins
Boyle, Bazil
NOTE: A TAPE RECORDING OF THIS MEETING IS ON FILE IN THE PLANNING
DEPARTMENT OFFICE.
The chair directed the Secretary to assure that the City
Clerk is present for the September 6th meeting so that Mrs. Wallin
may be sworn in as Commissioner Wallin.
AGENDA ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED OR WITHDRAWN:
ZONE CASE NO. 72-27 - Initiated by the Planning Commission
(Continued from August 1, 1972)
A change of zone from R1 Single Family Residence District
to RI-PD Single Family Residence District - Planned Development
as initiated by the Planning Commission. The subject property
consists of approximately 29 acres of land located at the northwest
corner of Ellis Avenue and Newland Street.
This item was continued to September 19, 1972.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7899
Subdivider: Godfrey and Associates, Inc.
In Conjunction With
USE PERMIT NO. 72-35
Applicant: Godfrey and Associates, Inc.
The tentative tract request is to allow 50 lots on 4.75
acres of land. The use permit is to allow the construction of a
planned unit development consisting of 50 units and related
facilities on a 4.75 gross acre parcel of land. The location is
northwest corner of Lochlea Land and Jenny Drive in the R2 Two
Family Residence District.
These items were continued to September 6, 1972.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7628
Subdivider: Classic Development Corp.
In Conjunction With
USE PERMIT NO. 72-28
Applicant: Classic Development Corp.
The tentative tract request is to permit 179 lots on 17.52
acres of land. The use permit is to allow the construction of a
Planned Residential Development consisting of 179 townhouses and
related facilities on 15.7 gross acre parcel of land. Located 660
ft. south of Ellis Avenue and 660 ft. east of the intersection of
Beach Boulevard.
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These items were continued to September 19, 1972.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7888
Subdivider: Classic Development Corp.
The request is to permit 83 lots on 15.96 acres of land located
east of Southern Pacific Railroad, north of Taylor Avenue and west
of Huntington Street.
This item was continued to September 6, 1972.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7949
Subdivider: Covington Brothers
The request is to permit 13 lots on 3.6 acres of land located
at the southwest corner of Edinger Avenue and Bolsa Chica Street.
This item was continued to September 6, 1972.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7950
Subdivider: Covington Brothers
The request is to permit 19 lots on 5.0 + acres of land
located 250 ft. east of Beach Boulevard oon the south side of
Holland Drive.
This item was continued to September 6, 1972.
CODE AMENDMENT NO. 72-13 - Specific Plan Alternate (Continued from
July 18, 1972)
A proposed code amendment which will establish a specific
plan procedure and application pursuant to S. 65300 through
S.65360 of the Government Code of the State of California.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY HIGGINS TO
TABLE THIS CODE AMENDMENT AND TO RE -ADVERTISE IT WHEN IT COMES
BACK TO THE COMMISSION.
Commissioner Kerins asked when this code amendment would
return to the Commission.
Mr. Harlow, Planning Department, responded that it
should come within 60 days as this is related to the high-rise
ordinance.
Commissioner Porter directed the Staff to make copies
of the Government Code with respect to specific plans and to
return such copies with this code amendment.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Higgins, Kerins, Porter
NOES: None
ABSENT: Bazil, Bo),le
THE MOTION CARRIED.
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MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 72-4 The proposed amendment is for
a change from commercial to
low density residential. The subject property consists of a
3.39 acre parcel of land located on the south side of Terry
Drive approximately 315 feet east of Beach Boulevard. Said
master plan proposes to amend a portion of Study Area "B".
Mr. Harlow suggested that this item be considered with
item number 2, Zone Case No. 72-24.
ZONE CASE NO. 72-24
Applicant: Dick S. Nerio
The subject property is located at the south side
of Terry Drive, 417 ft. east of Beach Boulevard. The request
is a change of zone from C4 Highway Commercial District to
R1 Single Family Residence District.
The reason given by the applicant in brief is that he
proposed to develop the property as single family (R1) sub-
divisions containing 18 lots.
The chair opened the public hearing on Master Plan
Amendment No. 72-4 and Zone Case No. 72-24.
Mrs. Hazel Cook, Westmont Premier Homeowners Associa-
tion, addressed the Commission and spoke in favor of the change
to R1.
There being no further speakers, the chair closed the
public hearing.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY KERINS TO
APPROVE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 72-4 FOR THE FOLLOWING
REASONS:
1. It conforms with the wishes of the neighborhood.
2. It reflects good planning.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Higgins, Kerins, Porter
NOES: None
ABSENT: Bazil, Boyle
THE MOTION CARRIED.
Mrs. Wallin expressed concern with the development
to the south.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY S UTES AND SECONDED BY KERINS
TO APPROVE ZONE CASE NO. 72-24 FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON:
1. It conforms with the Master Plan Amendment No. 72-4.
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ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Kerins, Slates, Higgins, Porter
NOES: None
ABSENT: Bazil, Boyle
THE MOTION CARRIED.
It was noted that the tentative tract map that applies
to this property was continued to the meeting of September 6, 1972.
CODE AMENDMENT NO. 72-17 A proposed code amendment to amend
Article 976 - Sign Code by amending
those sections governing sigh height within the setback area of
R5, C1, C2, C3, C4, M1 and M2 Districts and establishing a
twenty-five (25) foot height limit. Also to add Section 9762.8
prohibiting flashing, moving and rotating signs.
Mr. Harlow, Planning Department, introduced the subject
and corrected lines 19 and 23 on page 1 of the proposed code
amendment by inserting the word "no" in front of the word "signs"
on these lines. He further indicated that it applies to the
entire parcel and not just within the setback.
Commissioner Higgins stated that we shouldn't restrict
all signs on the entire parcel.
Mrs. Wallin indicated that pole signs have been a major
concern and that we should do something tonight.
The chair opened the public hearing.
Don Eggleston, Vice -President of Home Council, addressed
the Commission and indicated that the Home Council wants to take
a definite stand in favor of this code amendment.
There being no further speakers, the chair closed the
public hearing.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY HIGGINS
TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Higgins
NOES: Kerins, Porter
ABSENT: Bazil, Boyle
THE MOTION FAILED.
Commissioner Kerins asked what do we need to do to make
this code amendment acceptable?
Commissioner Slates indicated that it is unclear as to
whether all signs or just pole signs are being restricted.
Commissioner Higgins indicated that he would like to see
only pole signs and that he is not really concerned with wall signs.
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There was considerable discussion on pole signs and
the buildings within the setback and wall signs.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY KERINS
TO APPROVE THIS CODE AMENDMENT AS ADVERTISED.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Kerins, Porter
NOES: Slates, Higgins
ABSENT: Boyle, Bazil
THE MOTION FAILED.
Commissioner Porter indicated that this is an automatic
continuance to August 22, 1972 as an adjourned meeting.
Commissioner Higgins indicated that he is concered with
all pole signs and not concerned about wall or roof signs.
Commissioner Porter indicated that signs behind the
setback are a much larger question.
The chair directed that the Building Department shall
continue to refer all pole signs to the Planning Commission.
DISCUSSION: A request for a free-standing pole sign.
Applicant: Heath and Company, Inc. (Brentwood Savings)
The subject property is located at the west side of
Springdale Street approximately 200 ft. south of Edinger Avenue.
Mr. Harlow explained the various actions and appeals.
Mr. Eugene Briesemeister indicated that the company had
had been denied a pole sign on Edinger Avenue and now they are
requesting a pole sign on Springdale Street.
There was considerable discussion as to the design,
size, height of the proposed sign.
Commissioner Slates asked if this was a legal sign.
Mr. Harlow indicated that it did meet the ordinance.
Commissioner Slates indicated that it would be difficult
not to approve a sign that meets the code.
Commissioner Kerins indicated that it conforms to the
code but does not meet the spirit and intent of the sign code.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY PORTER TO
DENY THE REQUEST.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Porter, Kerins
NOES: Slates, Higgins
ABSENT: Boyle, Bazil
THE MOTION FAILED.
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Jerry Saunders, Manager of the Brentwood Savings, addressed
the Commission and indicated that many users in the area have
largesigns such as the Von's "V". He further stated that the sign
being requested is as per code and that the sign will face Edinger.
The chair stated that the Commission has addressed many
issues such as Open Space, etc. and that this has been under policy
decision and not ordinance. The chair then directed the Staff to
take the appropriate action necessary for this request.
MISCELLANEOUS:
Letter from Mansion -Hall Company requesting permission to
construct a 40 ft. high free-standing tower for private T.V. and
F.M. distribution within Tract No. 7155. Said tract is located
on the north side of Palm Avenue between 17th Street and Golden -
west Street. Mr. Harlow explained the details.
Mr. Fren Vanier, Project Superintendent, indicated the
details for the design, height, length and width of the proposed
antenna.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY KERINS TO
APPROVE THE REQUEST OF MANSION -HALL AND THAT THE SPECIFICATIONS
OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF SAID ANTENNA WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE
PLANNING DEPARTMENT'S APPROVAL.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Kerins, Porter, Higgins
NOES: None
ABSENT: Boyle, Bazil
THE MOTION CARRIED.
DISCUSSION:
Clearinghouse
No. 7850.
Report prepared by Moffatt and Nichol Engineers for
Huntington Harbour Corporation regarding State
letter of June 9, 1972 regarding Tentative Tract
Commissioner Kerins indicated that this is an excellent
report and that it answers the necessary questions. Further,
that this development is not a detriment to the area.
Mr. Hartge, City Engineer, indicated that the discharge
from the lagoon will improve the circulation in the harbor.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY HIGGINS TO
APPROVE AND ACCEPT THE REPORT OF MOFFATT AND NICHOL. IT WAS
INDICATED THAT 'PHIS WILL SATISFY THE PLANNING COMMISSION REQUIRE-
MENT UNLESS THE CORPS. OF ENGINEERS REQUIRES THAT AN ENVIRON-
MENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT BE PREPARED.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Kerins, Higgins, Slates, Porter
NOES: None
ABSENT: Boyle, Bazil
THE MOTION CARRIED.
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CODE AMENDMENT NO. 72-16 - Special Event Permit
The intent being to establish a "Special Event Permit"
which is to be reviewed by the Board of Zoning Adjustments with
their recommendation being transmitted to the City Administrator
prior to his final action.
Concern in this area has been expressed by a serious
accident that occurred at a carnival that was held within the
city limits.
Commissioner SiaLes indicated LhaL much of this proposed
code amendment is covered under the Police Permit Procedures and
that the Staff should check with the Department requirements so
that we have no duplication.
Discussion was held as to the list of items to be
considered. The Staff was directed to have the City Administrator
work out the problems as to this code amendment and that the
City Administrator's comments come back to the Planning Commission.
This item was continued pending response from the City
Administrator.
POLE SIGN REVIEW The subject property is located at the northwest
corner of Yorktown Avenue and Brookhurst Street.
Commissioner Porter indicated that there should be just
one sign to serve the center.
There was considerable discussion as to the amount of
signs that should be permitted on this parcel also as to consoli-
dation of other signs.
Mr. Ted King addressed the Commission and indicated that
the sign would violate a sign requirement of one sq. ft. per each
lineal foot of frontage. Considerable discussion was held as'to
all of the signs on the subject property.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY KERINS TO
APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON:
1. There is some consolidation of signing.
AND WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION:
1. That the letters be df the same style and same color in the
panel. This would exclude the 7-11 portion of the sign.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Kerins, Higgins
NOES: Porter
ABSENT: Boyle, Bazil
THE MOTION CARRIED.
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Commissioner Porter indicated that the City has rezoned the
property and it has bent over backwards to assist the developer
yet the developer has not consolidated his signs.
MISCELLANEOUS:
PUBLIC HEARING PROCEDURES
Commissioner Slates stated that these public hearing
procedures should be reviewed with the by-laws to see that
there are no conflicts.
Commissioner Kerins indicated that the public should know
that they have the right to address the Planning Commission at
ae oral section of the agenda.
Commissioner Porter indicated that in all cases that
the Planning Commission By-laws and Roberts Rules of Order shall
preclude the list of procedures.
Mrs. Wallin indicated that we should include an "oral
comments" section in the agenda.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY HIGGINS TO
TAKE MINUTE ACTIONTOREQUIRE THE ZONE CHANGE BE FILED IN
ON NNCISOEOMPATIBLETATIVE TRACT MAPS WHEN NECESSARY SO THAT THE
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Higgins, Kerins, Porter
NOES: None
ABSENT: Boyle, Bazil
THE MOTION CARRIED.
NON -CONFORMING SHOPPING CENTERS
Mrs. Wallin asked what. kind of ordinance is needed to
attain the goal of upgrading shopping centers under the sign
permit request.
Mr. Willis Mevis, City Attorney, indicated that an
amortization provision could be added.
Mr. Reynolds, Planning Director, indicated that we can
include provisions to include or require shopping centers to come
up to new standards as long as standards are applied equally to
all centers. He further indicated that the emphasis is to improve
the existing shopping centers with a mix of tenants and new
standards.
The (-hair direeLed thr Ctty Attorney to research court
c.abe% as to non-Lonforming uses and up -grading provisions and
prepare a preliminary report.
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THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THE MEETING ADJOURNED AT
9:50 P.M. TO A STUDY SESSION ON AUGUST 22, 1972 AT 7:00 P.M.
K. A. Reynolds
Secretary
M. M. Porter
Chairman
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