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HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
Council Chamber, Civic Center
Huntington Beach, California
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 1972 7:00 P.M.
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7:08 P.M. and direct-
ed the Secretary to call the roll:
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Slates, Bazil, Kerins, Porter, Wallin,
Boyle, Higgins
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: None
NOTE: A TAPE RECORDING OF THIS MEETING IS ON
FILE IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT OFFICE.
AGENDA ITEMS TO BE CONTINUED OR WITHDRAWN
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 8025
Subdivider: Stellrecht-Bartoli
42 lots on 9.77 acres of land located at the northeast
corner of Slater Avenue and Goldenwest Street.
The Secretary indicated that a letter had been received from
the applicant requesting a continuance of this item to
October 17.
ON MOTION BY SLATES AND SECOND BY BOYLE, THE COMMISSION
MOVED TO APPROVE THE CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER 17, 1972.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Bazil, Kerins, Porter, Wallin, Boyle, Higgins
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7628 (Continued from August 15, 1972)
In conjunction with
USE PERMIT NO. 72-28 (Continued from August 15, 1972)
Subdivider: Classic Development Corp.
179 lots on 17.52 acres of land located 660 ft. south
of Ellis Avenue and 660 ft. east of the intersection
of Beach Blvd.
The Secretary indicated that a letter had been received from
the applicant requesting withdrawal of Tentative Tract No. 7628
and Use Permit No. 72-28.
ON MOTION BY SLATES AND SECOND BY BOYLE THE COMMISSION MOVED
TO ACCEPT THE WITHDRAWAL. OF TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7628.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Bazil, Kerins, Porter, Wallin, Boyle, Higgins
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
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CN MOTION BY SLATES AND SECOND BY BOYLE THE COMMISSION MOVED TO
APPROVE THE WITHDRAWAL OF USE PERMIT NO. 72-28.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Bazil,Kerins, Porter, Wallin, Boyle, Higgins
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
ZONE CASE NO. 72-27
Initiated by the Planning Commission (Continued from August 15,
1972)
The subject property consists of approximately 29
acres of land located at the northwest corner of
Ellis Avenue and Newland Street. The request is
for a change of zone from R1 Single Family Residence
District to Rl-PD Single Family Residence District -
Planned Development.
The Secretary reviewed briefly the history of Planning Commission
action on subject property.
The Chairman opened the public hearing.
Mr. Tom Severns, Director of Environmental Resources, addressed
the Commission and stated that the Fountain Valley and Huntington
Beach City Councilshad decided to follow the Planning Commission
recommendation for acquisition of a 3.5 acre portion of subject
property for open space.
Mr. Ken Reynolds, Planning Director, indicated that the midden in
question equals approximately 30,000 square feet and further
stated that the midden and park could be purchased together.
Mr. Tom Shelton, engineer for the developer of this property,
addressed the Commission and indicated that his client has re-
evaluated the project and would have problems developing this
property as a planned unit development at 7 units per acre. He
stated that the Orange County density for planned unit develop-
ments is approximately 10 units per acre and that the developer
is prepared to develop the property with a planned unit develop-
ment, however, the cost of the property is too great for only 7
units per acre. Mr. Shelton also indicated that his client would
prefer having R2 zoning.
Commissioner Kerins asked Mr. Shelton if his client would be in
favor of an RI-PD on this property.
Mr. Shelton indicated that a planned unit development at 7 units
per acre after acquisition of a 3.5 acre park site would not be
economically feasible.
Commissioner Porter indicated that he is not interested in
penalizing the developer on a unit count but would like the
midden and bluff open space within a planned unit development.
Commissioner Slates asked Mr. Shelton if the development costs
for planned developments are greater than the development costs
for standard R1 subdivision.
Mr. Shelton answered in the affirmative.
There being no further speakers the Chairman closed the public
hearing.
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Commissioner Bazil indicated that the primary reason
for City acquisition of the midden was for the burial
site remains and relics and questioned the use of a
3.5 acre park site when surrounded by a planned unit
development having all private driveways.
ON MOTION BY KERINS AND SECOND BY PORTER, THE COMMISSION
MOVED TO APPROVE ZONE CASE NO. 72-27 FOR AN Rl-PD.
Commissioner Wallin indicated that this zone case could
work to the advantage of the sales because of the aesthetic
quality of the slope and trees.
Commissioner Higgins indicated that the Planning Commission's
prior discussion was that if the City didn't buy the bluffs
then the planned unit development is the only answer.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Bazil, Kerins, Porter, Wallin, Boyle, Higgins
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
ZONE CASE NO. 72-29
Applicant: Bell Oil Corp. Ltd.
The subject property is located on the north side
of Ocean Avenue, 50 feet west of 13th Street. The
request is for a change of zone from C3-0 General
Business District combined with oil production to
R4 High Density Residential District. To allow
the construction of a 17 unit apartment complex.
Commissioner Slates indicated that he would abstain on any
action regarding this matter.
Commissioner Bazil indicated he would abstain on any action
regarding this matter.
The Chairman opened the public hearing.
Mr. Bill Wonacott, architect for the project, addressed the
Commission and indicated this request was filed as he was
seeking 17 units for this beach -oriented development. He
stated that the project would have 9 one -bedroom and 8 two -
bedroom units.
Mr. Don Eggleston approached the Commission and indicated
that a Los Angeles Times editorial stated that local govern-
ments change the zoning in order to increase the tax base,
yet the tax base revenue doesn't equal the demand for the
services required by the development. Mr. Eggleston
questioned the costs for services on this type development.
There being no further speakers, the Chairman closed the
public hearing.
Commission diseusslon followed
ON MOTION BY WALLIN AND SECOND BY BOYLE, THE COMMISSION
MOVED TO DENY ZONE CASE NO. 72-29 FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS:
1. This zone case, if approved, would create spot
zoning.
2. There is sufficient R4 property in the proximity
to meet the developer's needs.
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Ccmmissioner Boyle indicated that tie would like to review the
Gcals Report first and further indicated that a zone change
in this area could lead to a domino effect.
Mr. Roger Slates, representing Bell Oil Corp., addressed the
Commission to answer any questions.
Commissioner Kerins asked Mr. Slates if he would like to have
a continuance for six months.
Mr. Slates indicated that this would be in preference to a
denial and he further indicated that Mr. Ken Rogers, the
developer, would prefer to have a decision on this matter.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Kerins, Porter, Wallin, Boyle, Higgins
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Slates, Bazil
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
Commissioner Porter indicated that he would like the record to
indicate that the extent of this request does not include enough
property; it should be the entire block and that he is not
opposed to R4 but is opposed to spot zoning.
Commissioner Wallin indicated that her concern for the Goals
Report was part of the basis for her vote.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7930 (Continued from September 6, 1972)
Subdivider: William I. Rousey
The subject property consists of 18 lots on 3.38
acres of land located 315 feet east of Beach Blvd.
south of Terry Drive.
The Secretary reviewed City Council action for approval of a
master plan amendment and zone change on this property.
Mr. William Rousey, developer, addressed the Commission and stated
that he had reviewed the staff report and agrees with the condi-
tions as outlined therein.
ON MOTION BY SLATES SECOND BY BAZIL, THE COMMISSION MOVED TO
APPROVE TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7930 WITH THE CONDITIONS AS
FOLLOWS:
1. The tentative map received September 13, 1972
shall be the approved layout.
2. No final map shall be recorded until Zone Case
No. 72-24 is effective.
3. A 6 ft. high masonry wall shall be constructed
along the Orange County Flood Control District
channel to the south. Said wall shall be
designed to meet the Department of Public Works
and Flood Control District requirements.
4. An 8 ft. high decorative masonry wall shall be
constructed along the west property line separat-
ing subject tract from the automobile dealership
to the west. The design of such wall shall be
approved by the Planning Department.
5. All "Standard Conditions of Approval" for
tentative tracts that are applicable shall be
complied with.
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Commissioner Wallin discussed an additional possible condi-
tion to require the developer to submit a landscape plan
for trees to muffle the sound between this development and
the commercial development to the west. This condition
was not added to the list of conditions.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Bazil, Kerins, Porter, Wallin, Boyle, Higgins
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
The Chairman directed the Board of Zoning Adjustments to
require landscaping within Phase 2 of the commercial
property similar to that required within the initial
phase at the time of development.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7495 Extention of Time (Continued from
Subdivider: Signal Landmark, Inc. August 1, 1972)
The subject property is located southwest of the
Huntington Beach boundary from Ellis Avenue, north-
west to Bolsa Chica Street and north of the adopted
route of Pacific Coast Freeway. The request is for
960 R1 lots on 392 acres of land.
The Secretary informed the Commission of the Archaeological
Research, Inc. report upon a portion of this property within
Tentative Tract No. 7495. He stated that the Commission
may wish to re -revaluate this map because of the Coast Free-
way deletion, adoption of equine trails, the arterial high-
way study, the high school site which was to be considered
for the area, and the tidelands exchange between Signal and
City.
Commission discussed a continuance to allow time to review
Signal's master plan for the area.
Mr. George Stringer, engineer, indicated that all the R1 has
had final maps prepared and they are ready to be submitted
to the City for recordation.
ON MOTION BY BOYLE AND SECOND BY WALLIN, THE COMMISSION
MOVED TO CONTINUE ACTION ON TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7495 TO
THE SEPTEMBER 269 1972 AFTERNOON MEETING.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Bazil, Kerins, Porter, Wallin, Boyle, Higgins
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7888 (Continued from September 6, 1972)
Subdivider: Classic Development Corp.
83 lots on 15.96 acres of land located east of
Southern Pacific Railroad, north of Taylor Avenue
and west of Huntington Street.
The Secretary reviewed prior Planning Commission action on
this property and stated that the City Council has sustained
the Planning Commission by denying the appeal on Zone Case
No. 72-21, therefore, Tentative Tract No. 7888 does not
conform to the master plan as required by State law.
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CN MOTION BY SLATES SECOND BY BOYLE, THE COMMISSION MOVED TO
EENY TEN"T.\TIVE TRACT NO. 7888 FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS:
1. Subject property does not have proper zoning for
residential subdivision.
2. The Zone Change to effect phis subdivision was
denied by the City Council.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Bazil, Kerins, Porter, Wallin, Boyle, Higgins
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
PRECISE PLAN NO. 72-7
Said plan proposes to amend the street alignments
for Hoyt Lane, Modale Drive, Demion Lane, Lister
Lane, Constantine Drive and Carolyn Lane located
approximately 600 ft. east of Beach Boulevard be-
tween Ellis Avenue and Garfield Avenue.
The Secretary reviewed the proposed alignment with the Commission.
The Chairman opened the public hearing.
Mr. Ray Clancy, a realtor in the area, addressed the Commission
and submitted a letter from Millie Rauch, property owner,
authorizing Mr. Clancy to represent her and agreeing to the
proposed street alignments. The Secretary received the letter
for file.
Mr. Bill Richardson addressed the Commission and indicated that
he was in favor of the precise plan.
Mr. Robert Potter addressed the Commission and asked for clari-
fication on the exact alignment of the proposed cul-de-sac on
Hoyt Lane.
There being no further speakers the Chairman closed the public
hearing.
ON MOTION BY SLATES AND SECOND BY BAZIL, THE COMMISSION MOVED
TO APPROVE PRECISE PLAN NO. 72-7 WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE
PRECISE PLAN NOT BE EFFECTIVE UNTIL A FINAL MAP HAS BEEN SUB-
MITTED FOR RECORDATION.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Bazil, Kerins, Porter, Wallin, Boyle, Higgins
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 8011
In conjunction with
USE PERMIT NO. 72-49
Subdivider: Classic Development Corp.
78 lots on 6.44 acres of land located 1320 feet
south of Ellis Avenue and 330 ft. east of Beach Blvd.
The request is to allow the construction of a planned
residential development consisting of 78 individually
owned townhouses with recreational facilities on 6.44
acres of land in the R3 Medium High Density Residential
District.
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The Secretary reviewed the proposed project with the
Commission.
The Chairman opened the public hearing.
Mr. Robert De Almeida addressed the Commission to answer
any questions.
The Secretary indicated that the minimum separation
between buildings has not been met by the plans.
Mr. De Almeida indicated that there would be a trellis
attachment in those areas.
Mr. Richardson addressed the Commission and stated that
Classic Development Corp. is in agreement with the
conditions as proposed in the staff report.
The Secretary further indicated that there was a need to
meet the minimum dimensions for patio areas.
Commissioner Wallin indicated that the minimum dimensions
should be subject to the approval of the Planning Department.
There being no further speakers, the Chairman closed the
public hearing.
ON MOTION BY SLATES AND SECOND BY BOYLE, THE COMMISSION
MOVED TO APPROVE THE USE PERMIT NO. 72-49 WITH THE
FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. The tentative ma and precise plan received
September 13, 1972 shall be the approved layout.
2. A 6 ft. high masonry wall shall be constructed along
that portion of the north property line where it is
deemed necessary by the Planning Department.
3. The CC&R's and Association rules shall contain a
provision prohibiting parking of boats and trailers
within the private drives and within the parking area
provided for guest parking. It shall further state
that any area provided for the storage of recreation
vehicles shall be screened from view and subject to
the approval of the Planning Department.
4. The elevations shall comply with the elevations sub-
mitted for Planning Commission review.
5. Hoyt Lane shall be 52 ft. wide.
6. The walkway between the garages entered from the
auto court shall be provided with adequate lighting.
Such lighting shall be subject to the approval of
the Planning Department.
7. Garage doors shall be equipped with automatic garage
door openers.
8. Constantine Lane, between Hoyt Lane and Beach Blvd.
shall be approved to Department of Public Works
requirements.
9. All requirements of the policy statement for Planned
Residential Developments adopted by the Planning
Commission on February 8, 1972 shall be complied with
unless otherwise approved on the development plan.
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10. A fire hydrant system shall be designed to pro-
vide for adequate fire flow as determined by
the Fire Marshal. Plans and engineering calcula-
tions for such systems shall be submitted to the
Fire Marshal for approval.
11. The sewer, water and fire hydrant systems shall
be designed to city standards. Such a system
shall be located within the streets, alleys or
drives. A five foot wide exclusive easement
shall be provided for each of these facilities.
12. Planters shall be installed between garages
within the auto court as per Planning Depart-
ment requirements.
13. Dimensions of patios
Planning Department
building permits.
shall be approved by the
prior to the issuance of
14. Photographs shall be submitted to the Planning
Department of the plans submitted to the
Commission on September 19, 1972, to become a
part of the permanent records.
15. All "Standard Conditions of Approval" for tentative
tracts that are applicable shall be complied with.
Commissioner Kerins indicated that this concept doesn't
maximize the open space.
Commissioner Bazil indicated that the parking court concept
changed the open space concept.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Bazil, Kerins, Porter, Wallin, Boyle, Higgins
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
ON MOTION BY SLATES AND SECOND BY BAZIL, THE COMMISSION MOVED
TO APPROVE TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 8011 SUBJECT TO ALL CONDITIONS
OF USE PERMIT NO. 72-49.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Bazil, Kerins, Porter, Wallin, Boyle, Higgins
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
MISCELLANEOUS
METROPOLITAN WATER DISTRICT REPORT RESOLUTIONS
The Commission discussed the resolutions on Metropolitan
Water District's report and the Council action was ex-
plained by the Secretary.
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP APPLICATION FORM
The Commission reviewed the tentative map application form
and the Secretary informed the Commission that this was a
new form for the processing of tentative maps.
ON MOTION BY SLATES SECOND BY KERINS, THE COMMISSION MOVED
TO APPROVE THE TENTATIVE TRACT APPLICATION FORM.
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Commissioner Wallin questioned the appeal procedure
and was informed that an appeal on a map would have
to be filed within 10 days of the Planning Commission
decision.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Bazil, Kerins, Porter, Wallin, Boyle, Higgins
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
ORANGE COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT RESOLUTION ON
Old MOTION BY KERINS SECOND BY BAZIL, THE COMMISSION MOVED
TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 1099.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Bazil, Kerins, Porter, Wallin, Boyle, Higgins
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
MEMORANDUM ON PLANNING COMMISSION AUTHORITY TO REVIEW
SIGN APPLICATIONS
The Commission discussed the memorandum by the City
Attorney's office. Commissioner Wallin and Commissioner
Kerins discussed the appeal procedure. No further action.
ANDARD OIL REQUESTING WITHDRAWAL OF THEIR
ON MOTION BY BOYLE SECOND BY KERINS, THE COMMISSION MOVED
TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE LETTER.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Bazil, Kerins, Porter, Wallin, Boyle, Higgins
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION CARRIED.
MAIN STREET RECONSTRUCTION
Commissioner Bazil indicated that there is a need for
Planning Commission action relative to the Main Street
reconstruction that is taking place. He discussed the
feasibility of deleting Main Street from the arterial
street system from 17th Street to Mansion.
Bill Hartge, City Engineer, indicated that Main Street
at that point is a major access for the new police facility.
Commissioner Bazil indicated that there is a growing
deterioration of this nice residential area.
Commissioner Porter indicated that everything has stopped
with reference to the reconstruction until the Council
meets on this matter.
ON MOTION BY KERINS AND SECOND BY BAZIL, THE COMMISSION
MOVED TO ADOPT THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION:
RESOLUTION NO. 1100 - A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF HUNTINGTON BEACH, CALIF-
ORNIA, RELATING TO STREET IMPROVEMENT ALONG MAIN
STREET BETWEEN SEVENTEENTH STREET AND MANSION AVENUE.
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ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Bazil, Kerins, Porter, Wallin, Boyle;`Higgins,,,
NOES: None
ABSENT: Norge
THE MOTION CARRIED.
COMMISSION COMMENTS
Commissioner Kerins discussed the parlimentarian session
to be held at Goldenwest College.
Commissioner Porter asked if there was money-in'the-=budget
for such classes as are being held at the University of
California -Irvine related to planning.
Commissioner Slates discussed the Community Congress which is
to be held at Goldenwest College on November 11.
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Commissioner Boyle discussed an editorial which appeared in the
Los Angeles Times with reference to growth policy.
STAFF COMMENTS
Bill Hartge, City Engineer, discussed AB 1665 and indicated that
the Engineering Department would be setting up standards, _
pursuant to,, this bill. _c.,.a
FIELD TRIP
Ken Reynolds, Planning Director, indicated that he was in
receipt of a letter from VTN inviting the Commission to visit
their new photogrammetric division. A field trip has been
scheduled for the afternoon of October 10, 1972.
ADJOURN J rs
The Commission adjourned to an informal meeting on Monday,
September 25, 1972 and adjourned to a study session on
Tuesday, September 26 at 2 P.M.
The meeting adjourned at 10 P.M.
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