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HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
Council Chambers, Civic Center
Huntington Beach, California
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 26. 1972 - Study Session
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Slates, Kerins, Porter, Wallin,
Boyle, Higgins, Bazil
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: None
NOTE: A TAPE RECORDING OF THIS MEETING IS ON FILE IN THE
PLANNING CEPARTMENT OFFICE.
MINUTES: It was noted that the July 5, 1972 minutes "election
of officers" indicates that Mr. Kerins had been
nominated as Vice Chairman. The minutes are to be
corrected to indicate that Mr. Kerins was nominated
as chairman.
ON MOTION BY SLATES SECOND BY KERINS, THE COMMISSION MOVED TO
ACCEPT THE JULY 5, 1972 MINUTES AS CORRECTED.
VOTE:
=-. Slates, Kerins, Porter, Wallin, Boyle, Higgins
NOES: None
ABSENT: Bazil
FORMAT OF MINUTES:
Commissioner Wallin requested that all subject headings be
typed in capital letters and underscored.
Commissioner Bazil arrived at 2:20 p.m.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7495 - Extension of Time (Cont. 9/19/72)
Subdivider! Siana.l Timt1mark 'Inn_
The request is to allow 960 Rl lots on 392 acres located south-
west of the Huntington Beach boundary from Ellis Avenue, north-
west to Bolsa Chica Street and north of the adopted route of
— --- _ Pacific Coast Freeway_._
In Conjunction With
DISCUSSION - PRELIMINARY PLAN OF BOLSA CHICA PREPARED BY
SIGNAL PROPERTIES
Mr. Harlow, Secretary informed the Commission that action on
Tentative Tract No. 7495 had been continued to this meeting
to allow for a review of Signal Oil Company Preliminary Master
Plan of the Bolsa Chica area prior to an extension of time
on the tentative tract map. Mr. Harlow stated that Mr George
Stringer, Signal representative, and Mr. Charles Palmer,
Huntington Beach School District, were present to address
themdi:lves to the Staff comments which would be reviewed by
Mr. Jere Murphy.
Mr. Jere Murphy, Associate Planner, indicated to the Commission
that the Staff had made the following observations and points
of concern on the Signal Preliminary Master Plan for the Bolsa
Chica area. Mr. Murphy stated that the M.W.D. utility corridor
or switnhyard was not shown; that the commercial area should
be enlarged to facilitate a regional shopping center; traffic
study should be up -dated to incorporate all changes in the
area; archaeological sites along the bluff should be shown
and protected; a re-evaluation is needed of the location and
configuration of parks within the plan; and an elementary
school should be planned for the area south of Talbert Avenue,
east of Springdale Street.
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Commissioner Kerins asked if the Commission should just look
at the extension of time or consider the entire area at this
time.
Commission Slates questioned the configuration of the wildlife
marsh. He indicated that the wildlife marsh is of key import
tance and that the California Department of Fish and Game repre-
en�atives-Piave- indicated thaX Pacific Coast-Higfif4Yy will stop -at
Warner,
Chairman Porter asked Mr. Stringer to comment. Mr. Stringer
addressed the Commission and stated that much of the operating
oil field would remain and that the plan before the Commission
is a general plan; not a specific plan. He indicated that the
decision to terminate Pacific Coast Highway may not be made
for a period of years whereas the bluff is ready to develop.
Mr. Stringer indicated that they are requesting an extension
of one year on the map.
Commissioner Kerins asked if the map assumes that the freeway
will go through.
Mr. Harlow indicated that the submitted map had been designed
to apply with or without the freeway.
ON MOTION BY KERINS SECOND BY BAZIL THE COMMISSION MOVED TO
APPROVE THE EXTENSION OF ONE YEAR FOR TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7495
WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. All previous "Conditions of Approval" that are applicable
shall be complied with.
2. The archaeological site is to be excavated in accordance
with city requirements prior to development of the site.
3. All prospective purchasers of homes within 300 ft. of the
MWD area are to be advised of MWD►s right of eminent domain.
4. Extension of time was approved on the R1 area of said map
only.
Commissioner Slates stated that too many questions were
unresolved on this map and he would like a new map submitted.
Mr. Stringer indicated that this is as good a map as Huntington
Beach will ever see.
Commissioner Kerins indicated that the Commission had worked
a long time on the map.
VOTE:
AYES: Kerins, Porter, Wallin, Boyle, Higgins, Bazil
NOES: Slates
ABSENT: None
ON MOTION BY BOYLE SECOND BY KERINS THE COMMISSION MOVED TO
DIRECT THE STAFF TO ASSURE THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT BOUNDARIES
DO NOT BISECT HOUSES ON FUTURE MAPS.
V T
AYES: Slates, Kerins, Porter, Wallin, Boyle, Higgins, Bazil
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
In response to a question by Commissioner Kerins, Mr. Stringer
indicated that an Environmental Impact Statement has been
prepared.
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ON MOTION BY KERINS SECOND BY BOYLE THE COMMISSION MOVED TO
REQUIRE THAT AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT BE PREPARED AND
SUBMITTED TO THE CITY WITH ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE
BOLSA CHICA AREA.
Mr. Reynolds, Planning Director informed the Commission that
there is a communication from the City Attorney's office
indicating that a new ordinance is going before the Council
relative to the requirement of environmental impact statements
on all tentative tract maps.
Chairman Porter asked if an environmental impact statement
could be required without the enabling legislation.
Mr. Willis Mevis, Deputy City Attorney, indicated that it
could be required as a general condition.
Commissioner Boyle indicated that the Commission could not
single out one developer under the 14th amendment and with-
drew his second to the motion.
Commissioner Bazil seconded the motion because the area is
of a unique nature.
Commissioner Higgins asked if in clarification, the intent is
to require an environmental impact statement on all future
developments with the Bolsa Chica area.
The chairman responded that that is the motion.
VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Kerins, Porter, Wallin,, Higgins, Bazil
NOES: Boyle
ABSENT: None
Mr. Boyle indicated that the Commission is going about this
improperly and that a general statement should be made first.
DISCUSSION - LOCATION FOR MULTISTORY STRUCTURE
Mr. Harlow, Secretary, informed the Commission that the need
to establish an ordinance for multi -story development is a
high priority and will be presented to the Commission in
several phases because each phase is a complex subject and
will require considerable study. He stated that the map which
depicts areas of potential multi -story development is before
the Commission to generate discussion that may lead to an
amendment of the Master Plan and is not intended to be con-
sidered as a staff recommendation on such area within the
City. Mr. Harlow then requested that the Commission address
itself to the question "Does the City want multi -story
development?"
It was a consensus of the Commission to allow multi -story
developments in the City.
The Chairman indicated that this item should be deferred until
criteria is considered and further, that the Council has
appointed an ad hoc High Rise Committee to work with the staff.
Mr. Reynolds indicated that the staff would compile the infor-
mation and the committee would react to the information.
The chairman indicated that the staff should consider outside
input.
Mr. Reynolds indicated that the staff shouldn't act as.secre-
tary to an ad -hoc citizens committee.
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Mr. Jack Horn addressed the Commission. Mr. Horn was appointed
by the City Council to the High Rise Committee. He indicated
to the Commission that he was in attendance in order to find
out what his role is to be.
The chairman directed the staff to prepare seven maps indicating
the multi -story areas for the High Rise Committee's review.
Mr. Jerry Saunders, a member of the High Rise Committee indicated
that he concurred with Ken Reynolds that the Committee should
meet with the Commission and offer input.
Commissioner Wallin indicated that we had to be concerned with
open space.
Commissioner Boyle indicated that another concern is population
and density.
Mr. Harlow is to present a complete package on the multi -story
question to the Planning Commission for their consideration.
REPORT FROM ENVIRONMENTAL COUNCIL AND THE RECREATION AND PARK
COMMISSION REGARDING INTERIM OPEN SPACE PLAN
The Planning Commission discussed the proposal.
ON MOTION BY BOYLE SECOND BY KERINS THE COMMISSION MOVED TO
INCLUDE THREE CHANGES IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL COUNCIL'S REPORT
WHICH WOULD BE ADDED TO THE INTERIM OPEN SPACE REPORT.
1. Definition of open space.
2. Reword oxygen supply.
3. Change proposed to existing freeways.
VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Kerins, Porter, Wallin, Higgins, Bazil, Boyle
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
The -.chairman directed the staff to prepare a highlights' pre-
sentation on the interim open space plan for the public
hearing.
DISCUSSION - OCEAN ORIENTED APARTMENT STANDARDS
Jim Palin, Associate Planner, outlined the staff report and
problems the staff feels should be resolved to facilitate the
administration of apartment standards. He stated that the
staffs intent is to reduce the complexity of standards by
applying one set of "development standards".for the entire City.
Commissioner Kerins indicated that this is appropriate and
that the proposal be brought to the Planning Commission at a
study session. Further, that the proposal is to exclude the
townlot area.
Commissioner Wallin asked why the townlot area should be
excluded.
Mr. Palin indicated the area should be excluded because of the
land -use intensity system and the comprehensive study that
has been made for the townlot area.
ON MOTION BE SLATES SECOND BY KERINS THE COMMISSION DIRECTED
THE STAFF TO PROCEED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE INTENT OF THE
STAFF REPORT.
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Commissioner Kerins indicated that Los Angeles County has
upgraded apartment standards to suppress noise. ,
The chairman directed that a noise factor provision be
included in the apartment standards.
VOTE:
:
AYES: Slates, Kerins, Porter, Wallin, Higgins, Bazil, Boyle
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
DISCUSSION - ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT
Mr. Jere Murphy, Associate Planner, submitted a memorandum
prepared by the Planning Department concerning the environmental
impact statements and indicated that the staff would like the
Planning Commission to offer comments at this time.
The chairman indicated that the City Atto rney's office has
prepared an ordinance on environmental impact statement
requirements with reference to S. 65801 for City Council
consideration.
Commissioner Wallin asked if a developer could be required
to post a bond for an environmental impact statement. The
Staff would use the bond to retain a consultant if the applicant
does not.
Mr. Mevis mentioned a proposed ordinance by the Atto rney's office
with reference to Public Resources Code Section 21100.
Mr. Reynolds, Planning Director, indicated that the evaluation
of an environmental impact statement is an important area to
be considered.
Mr. Mevis indicated that the Mammoth case used the phrase
"significant impact" and asked how this can be determined
without an environmental impact statement.
Commissioner Kerins indicated that the phrase "non -trivial"
was used in a Los Angeles Times editorial.
ON MOTION BY BOYLE SECOND BY PORTER THE COMMISSION MOVED
TO REQUIRE AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT ON ALL TENTATIVE
TRACTS.
Commissioner Boyle stated that this is inconsistent as the
Bolsa Chica is the only area to be considered for an environ-
mental impact statement.
Mr. Bazil concurred that this would be inconsistent.
Commissioner Higgins stated that the Commission shouldn't
single out tentative tracts.
VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Kerins, Porter, Wallin, Higgins, Boyle
NOES: Bazil
ABSENT: None
MISCELLANEOUS WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS DISTRIBUTED
(1) Project 21 letter; (2) California Regional Water Quality
Control Board letter; and (3) Huntington Beach High School
District letter.
STUDY - STREET REALIGNMENT AND TRAFFIC STUDY - CIVIC CENTER AR]
Commissioner Bazil discussed the residential streets that flow
into the civic center area and discussed the possibility of
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cul-de-sating them.
ON MOTION BY BAZIL SECOND BY SLATES THE COMMISSION MOVED TO
DIRECT THE STAFF TO PREPARE A PRECISE PLAN OF STREET ALIGN-
MENT TO CUL-DE-SAC THE STREETS LEADING INTO THE CIVIC CENTER
AND TO INCLUDE AN EXIT ONLY FOR THE ALLEYS IN THAT AREA.
VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Kerins, Porter, Wallin, Higgins, Boyle, Bazil
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Commissioner Bazil indicated that there was a need to research
the inflow of traffic at 17th Street and Main Street and ,
possibly to create a turnaround street.
ON MOTION BY BAZIL SECOND BY BOYLE THE COMMISSION MOVED TO
DIRECT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO CONDUCT A TRAFFIC STUDY
IN AND AROUND THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS ADJACENT TO THE CIVIC
CENTER.
VOTE:
AYES: Slates, Kerins, Porter, Wallin, Higgins, Boyle, Bazil
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
EDISON EXPANSION
Commissioner Wallin asked that the staff keep a file on the
pros and cons of the expansion of the Edison plant on Pacific
Coast Highway.
Commissioner Slates indicated that the Orange County Air
Pollution Control District has stated that the Edison plant
meets Rule 67 and that Edison will prepare an environmental
impact statement.
Mr. Mevis indicated that the Public: Utilities Commission
required Edison to file an environmental impact statement.
BOLSA CHICA DEVELOPMENT PLAN
Commissioner Wallin asked if the staff is going to review the
Bolsa Chica Preliminary Master Plan and whether the staff is
going to react to the proposal.
Mr. Reynolds indicated that it is too early to get into details
on the plan and that it is Signal's responsibility to propose
the necessary regional centers and traffic studies. It was
noted that Signal has a report on rile that discusses the Bolsa
Chica area.
ON MOTION BY BOYLE SECOND BY KERINLS THE COMMISSION DIRECTED
THE STAFF TO ATTEMPT TO OBTAIN A COPY OF THE $200,000 ENVIRON-
MENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT ON THE BOLS)A CHICA AREA FROM SIGNAL
AND THAT'THIS REPORT BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PLANNING
COMMISSION.
VOTE'
AYES: Slates, Kerins, Porter, Wallin, Higgins, Boyle, Bazil
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THE MEETING ADJOURNED AT 5:38 P.M.
GC .
K. A. Reynolds
Secretary
M. M. Porter
Chairman
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