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MINUTES
HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING C014MISSION
Council Chambers, Civic Center
Huntington Beach, California
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 23, 1973 - 7 P.M. - STUDY SESSION
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Geiger, Higgins, Kerins, Wallin, Boyle,
Porter
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Bazil
NOTE: A TAPE RECORDING OF THIS MEETING IS ON FILE IN THE PLANNING
DEPARTMENT OFFICE.
REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS
KENDALL DEVELOPMENT CO.
Mr. Leonard Goodman, Vice President of Kendall Development Co.,
addressed the Commission and gave a brief background of the
Company's history and related facts concerning their part in
some of the development of Huntington Beach. Mr. Don Corbin
presented renderings of -the proposed development which is located
southwest of Slater and Graham on the Bolsa property. He stated
that the proposed PD would be similar to the Broadmoor Homes in
the Turtle.Rock area on the Irvine Ranch. Slides were presented
of some of the homes in other developments with special emphasis
on the landscaping and treatment of open space. fie stated that
the prices for the units would probably start at $50,000. Ile
discussed the townhouse concept as compared to the duplex, pointing
out the advantage of the duplex concept in a planned development
over the townhouse concept. Mr. Weingarten addressed the Commission
and there followed a question and answer period.
It was the consensus of opinion among the Commissioners that more
diversification of dwelling types would be preferable, with more
study being given to those units on the perimeter.
SPECIFIC PLAN AND MULTI -STORY DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF TOWNLOT AREA
Chairman Kerins read a letter of resignation from the High Rise
Committee submitted by Mr. Jack Horn. He stated that Mrs. Lorraine
Faber, Secretary of the High Rise Committee, had requested a thirty
day extension for discussion in behalf of the Committee. Mrs. Faber
addressed,the`Commission and a discussion of her letter of October 18,
1973, and�the six recommendations contained therein were discussed
item by item. It was the consensus of the Commission that a seventh
recommendation be added which would request that a member of the
Commission meet with the Committee in addition to a staff member.
Chairman Kerins stated that at a later date a member of the Commission
would be directed to meet with the High Rise Committee.
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Tuesday, October 23, 1973
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Mr. Ken Reynolds, Acting Secretary, stated that the staff was prepared
to discuss the project and he felt there was no need to postpone it
for an additional thirty days, but rather to discuss it and then
return with suggestions from the High Rise Committee. Mr.. Martinez,
of the staff, pointed out that Mrs. Faber has met with staff for an
hour and a half on October 10. At the meeting Coordination Draft
No. 2 was thoroughly discussed with Mrs. Faber, who was then to
review said draft with the high Rise Committee. The Acting Secretary
stated that Mr. Eadie and Mr. Kellogg were present and were prepared
to recap the Specific Plan to bring everyone to the same level.
Mr. Steve Kellogg addressed the Commission and reviewed the Townlot
Specific Plan Study. IIe stated there was a discrepancy between
master plan and zoning in the townlot area. Vugraphs of master
plan analysis and concepts were shown and various planning concepts
were discussed. He requested the Commission give specific directions
on the specific plan concept which included the provision for multi-
story areas and concepts for master plan revisions.
Commissioner Geiger stated he felt that Pacific Coast Highway should
be moved back to Walnut Avenue from Goldenwest Street to Beach Blvd.
Commissioner Porter indicated he favored Alternative B-2, with the
modification that the primary commercial area in the westerly portion
be deleted and the secondary commercial area be dispersed.
Mr. Reynolds stated that a study was made several years ago and at
that time acquisition of,right-of-way for relocation of Pacific
Coast Highway inland would be in excess of one million dollars.
Commissioner Higgins indicated he would like a secondary node to be
located in the area of 17th Street.
A majority of the Commission favored Alternative C-3 with Pacific
Coast Highway to be relocated inland along Walnut Avenue beginning
at about 21st Street and continuing along,Walnut Avenue to Lake
Street. .
Chairman Kerins indicated that staff should amend the general plan,
zone the property and have the Conditional Use Permit process appli-
cable to this area. A minimum set of development standards should
be set.for the entire city. Kerins stated he would also like to
have a greater floor area ratio.
Chairman Kerins stated the staff should plan a minimal amount of
area devoted to multi story development in•the beginning. Staff
should also present options so that the Commission will have a
rational basis to decide upon the location of multi story cluster �J'
areas. '
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Mr. Kellogg indicated that commercial areas would be consolidated;
and that traffic from multi story and non -multi story areas would
be separated by such treatment as cul-de-sacs.
Regarding the Townlot Specific Plan, the Commission agreed to pursue
the following directions:
1. Multi -story cluster plans C2 and C3 were most favorable and
should be investigated further with a possible combination of
the two.
2. The realignment of Pacific Coast Highway should be pursued
utilizing a combination of plans B1 and B2 in which the
highway would go inland to Walnut Avenue between approximately
20th Street and Lake Street.
3. Study and define areas for density reduction in the eastern
portions of the study area.
4. Consolidate strip commercial along Pacific Coast Highway and
reduce the overall amount.
Mr. Dave Eadie discussed and presented the cube models as they
relate to the Coordination Draft No. 2 of Code Amendment No. 72-21,
the Multi -Story Suffix. He outlined the reasons for the approach
that differs greatly from the previous 7th Draft dated April 5,
1973, with the change being for a citywide ordinance to set minimum
standards and'work in concert with 'specific'plans or with geographical
localities. A question and answer period followed. Staff inquired
as to acceptability of entire proposal of ordinance. Commission
indicated to staff that it would return at a later date with comments.
Commissioner Wallin requested staff to work with Attorney so that
the specific plan concept fosters and protects relationships among
high rise developments.
Commission discussed intent of Coordination Draft No. 2. It
favored the floor area ratio concept as a device to determine lot
coverage.
Reasons why the use of floor area ratio and percent of lot coverage
instead of the incentive concept were'also discussed.
Commissioner Wallin was excused at 10:45 P. M.
Commission directed staff to be ready for further discussion on the
multi -story ordinance at the October 30, 1973, meeting.
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REVENUE/EXPENDITURE ANALYSIS OF RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, AND
INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENTS.
Monica Florian discussed the evolution of the report and its purpose
to identify the economic implications of various land use for city
and school district finances. Pointing out the limitation of this
type of economic analysis, she explained that the results should
not be considered precise instruments for measuring monetary impact
but rather as indicators of economic relationships. Aside from a
fundamental realization that single family development usually
constitutes a financial drain on government which may be offset by
positive returns from multiple -family, commercial, and industrial
uses, she pointed out the general observations which are the study's
most important contribution: 1) revenues increase faster than
expenditures as density increases; 2) the importance of the property
tax in city financing is rivaled by retail sales tax and per capita
revenues; and 3) the "value" of a particular land use can be deter-
mined only in relation to the city as a whole.
Commission ,discussion followed. No action was taken.
MISCELLANEOUS
Zone Case No. 73-13
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A memo from the Environmental Review Board on Zone Case No. 73-13,
which proposes change of zone from M1-A-0 to MH, located at Newland
Street and Pacific Coast Highway, was discussed. The Acting Secretary
indicated that to do an EIR for this zone,case would cost an estimated
$4,500.
Commission directed staff to include this item on the October 30
agenda as a discussion,item. 1,
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COMMISSION COMMENTS
Chairman.Kerins gave a brief summation of the recent League of
Cities conference held in San Francisco.
The meeting adjourned at 11:25 P.M.
. Reynoldl fEdwardr ns
Secretary Chairman
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