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HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
Council Chambers, Civic Center
Huntington Beach, California
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 6, 1973 - 7 P.M. - REGULAR MEETING
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Geiger, Bazil, Higgins, Kerins, Wallin
Boyle, Porter, -
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: None
NOTE: A TAPE RECORDING OF THIS MEETING IS ON FILE IN THE PLANNING
DEPARTMENT OFFICE.
CONSENT CALENDAR
ON MOTION BY WALLIN AND SECOND'BY PORTER THE FOLLOWING ITEMS
WERE APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
MINUTES: September 18, September 25,,October 16, 1973 approved
as transcribed and mailed.
October 9, 1973 minutes approved as amended.
ZONE CASE NO. 73-14
Initiated by Planning Commission
Withdrawn at the request of staff.
AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Higgins, Kerins, Wallin, Boyle, Porter
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS
FINAL TRACT 7896 - WROUGHT IRON FENCE
NOISE SURVEY .
Mr. Jerry Jackson addressed the Commission and presented his
findings from a noise survey: conducted at three sites with
similar traffic speed limits on the adjacent arterial highways
of three Landscape Standard Plan 709 cul-de-sac cutouts. The
three sites are located at Newland Street on•Millbridge'Circle,
Brookhurst Street'on Cape May Lane, and subject site at Magnolia
Street on Henton Drive.
Mr. Jackson displayed slides and vugraphs. 'He -stated that with
open fence without shrubbery there is no attenuation. At 88 ft.
the sound attenuation is approximately 5.5 dBa and at 160 ft.
is.3.0,dBa for an average of both masonry walls. -Attenuation
for.both 6 ft. and.42.inch masonry wall"is maximum at 65 ft.
from the arterial.
Commission discussion followed on Plan 709.
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ON MOTION BY WALLIN AND SECOND BY HIGGINS
ADOPTED SIX FOOT WROUGHT IRON FENCE WITH
AND DIRECTED STAFF TO AMEND STANDARD P
AND IRON WORK WITH DISTANCES BETWEEN BARS
INCHES BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Kerins, Wallin, Boyle
NOES: Geiger, Bazil, Porter
ABSENT: None
PLANNING COMMISSION
COMPATIBLE LANDSCAPING
LAN 709 TO INCLUDE PILASTERS
NOT TO EXCEED FOUR.(4)
PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE NO. 73-13 (from Ml-A-0 to MH, located at
Newland and Pacific Coast Highway)
Mr. James Palin, Environmental Review Board Chairman, addressed
the Commission and displayed vugraphs. He reviewed the recommend-
ations of the Environmental Review. Board which requested that the
Planning Commission reconsider Zone Case No. 73-13 since (1) it
was initiated prior to Edison Company expansion and (2) there is
a possibility that Newland will. -be widened to four lanes and that
further increase in traffic would cause further deterioration of the
air quality. He stated that the cost of preparation of an Environ-
mental Impact Report would be approximately $4,500.
Commission discussion followed. Commissioner Higgins stated that
he did not feel the cost of an Environmental Impact Report should
be considered.
ON MOTION BY BOYLE AND SECOND BY BAZIL STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO PREPARE
A LETTER TO CITY COUNCIL REQUESTING THAT ZONE CASE NO. 73-13 BE
REFERRED BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR RECONSIDERATION BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Kerins, Wallin, Boyle
NOES: Higgins, Porter
ABSENT: None
ENVIRONMENTAL'REVIEW,BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS FOR STANDARD CONDITIONS
OF APPROVAL FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS
Mr. James Palin, Environmental Review Board Chairman, addressed the
Commission and stated that they would be offering mitigating measures
pertaining to all Environmental Impact Reports. He further stated
that until the Ordinance is amended the wording is'such that the
Board is required to find that the project has a trivial or lesser
effect before an Exemption Declaration can be granted. Until such
time as standard conditions of approval are amended for Tentative
Tract Maps and for provisions in the Ordinance Code, the Environ-
mental Review Board recommends that the Planning Commission approve
the three standard conditions offered by the Board on all residential
development.
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Staff was requested to furnish back-up information on supply
and efficiency factors of natural gas versus electricity at the
time the standard conditions of approval are before the Planning
Commission for review and adoption.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7743 (Continued from 10/16/73)
USE PERMIT NO. 72-82_ (Continued from 10/16/73)
Applicant: J.M.C. Construction Co.
Tentative Tract No. 7743 is a request for 14 lots, on 2.616
acres located west of Marina View Place, north of Los Patos,
southeast of Warner Avenues. Use Permit No. 72-82 is a request
to permit 13 unit planned residential development at said location.
The Secretary, Mr. Ken Reynolds, stated that the applicant has
been in contact with the staff, and by telephone requested a
continuance. A letter confirming this request would be forth-
coming.
Commissioner Porter spoke against a continuance, stating that
applicant has had sufficient time to prepare revised plans.
The Chairman opened the hearing to the public.
Mr. Bill Wynn, representing Homeowners Association of Marina
View Place, spoke against the project, stating that his Association
would prefer that the area be developed R1.
The Chairman closed the public hearing.
Mr. Reynolds stated that applicant had advised him that he would
not be at November 6, 1973 meeting since he had asked for a
continuance.
Commissioner Bazil stated that he was in favor of continuance and
definitely preferred a planned development on -the site. He
further stated that he would like a schematic of wall section
required by the City if the property is developed R1.
The Secretary indicated that a straw poll indicated three
Commissioners were,in favor of planned development if units
would be lowered from'13 to 11. The original plan called for
15 units: He'further stated that two Commissioners preferred R1
and two Commissioners were willing to accept the planned develop-
ment as presented.
ON MOTION BY'BAZIL AND SECOND BY BOYLE TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7743
AND USE PERMIT NO. 72-82 WERE CONTINUED TO DECEMBER 4, 1973
BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
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AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Higgins, Kerins, Wallin, Boyle
NOES: Porter
ABSENT: None
Staff was directed to inform the applicant the Commission does not
favor any other continuances. Staff was further directed to apprise
applicant of what is expected in the way of drawings and revisions
of plans and any other pertinent information for presentation to the
Commission on December 4, 1973.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 8412 (Continued from 10/16/73)
Applicant: Covington Bros.
Tentative Tract No. 8412 is a request to permit 15 lot subdivision
consisting of four-plexes located on the south side of Heil St.,
approximately 435 ft. east of Bolsa Chica.
Secretary Ken Reynolds addressed the Commission and stated that the
Public Works Department had -requested that an.additional condition
of approval be added to those listed in'the staff report concern-
ing the construction of a drainage structure to the proposed street.
Vugraphs were shown.
Mr. Bob Fitzpatrick, representing Covington Bros., addressed the
Commission and stated that he was prepared to answer any questions
concerning the proposed development.
Commissioner Wallin noted that trees were not shown on the displayed
plot plan which had lieen discussed at Subdivision Meeting.
There was a discussion on perimeter walls.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY-WALLIN AND SECONDED BY PORTER TO APPROVE TENTATIVE
TRACT NO. 8412 WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS:
1. No Parking shall be permitted on Heil.
2. Reciprocal easements for driveway access shall be recorded con-
current with the final tract.
3. All plantings and landscaping in the driveway medians and street
median shall meet with the approval of the Planning and Public
Works Departments.
4. Landscaping at the end of the cul-de-sac and along the west property
line shall be reviewed and approved by the Planning Department.
5. The tentative map stamped "received" October 29, 1973 shall be the,
approved map.
6. Landscaping along Heil shall meet with the approval of the Planning
Department.
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7. On site landscaping shall be provided with an irrigation
sprinkling system.
8. All applicable conditions of the Standard Conditions of
Approval dated May 23, 1972 shall be complied with.
9. A drainage structure acceptable to the Department of Public
Works shall be constructed from Tract 7805 to the proposed
street.
10. The developer shall be subject to the proposed acoustical
controls as outlined in the report; i.e., thermal paned windows,
relocation of the roof vents, and density of insulation to
reduce the noise levels within the living and sleeping quarters
of the units to a maximum of 50 dBa.
11. The project shall be constructed with full insulation of all
exterior walls and ceilings to reduce the burden on heating
and cooling systems.
12. Building spoils, such as unusable lumber, wire, pipe, and other
surplus or unusable material shall be dumped at an off -site
facility equipped to handle them.
13. Both natural gas and electricity shall be stubbed in for clothes
dryers, cooking facilities, water heaters, refrigeration units,
and central heating units to alleviate the possible drain on
any one energy source.
14. The south side of Heil Avenue shall be posted "no parking" as
the City has proposed a bicycle trail at this location.
15. Except for the Heil Avenue frontage, the perimeter wall shall
be constructed to a minimum height of 7 1/2 ft. to mitigate
the noise levels.
16. The developer shall be encouraged to participate with the
school districts (elementary and high school) in providing
facilities for the children generated by this development.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY GEIGER AND SECONDED BY BAZIL TO AMEND CONDITION
NO. 13 AS FOLLOWS:
13. Both natural gas and electricity shall be stubbed in at
clothes drier locations.
Commission discussion followed.
VOTE:
AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Higgins, Boyle, Porter
NOES: Kerins, Wallin
ABSENT: None
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THE AMENDMENT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL PASSED.
Commission discussed Condition No. 15. concerning the height of the
perimeter wall.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY HIGGINS AND SECONDED BY KERINS TO AMEND CON-
DITION NO. 15 AS FOLLOWS:
15. The perimeter wall shall be constructed to a minimum height
of 6 ft.
VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Kerins, Higgins
NOES: Geiger, Wallin, Boyle, Porter
ABSENT: None
THE AMENDMENT TO THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL NO. 15 FAILED.
VOTE ON MOTION TO APPROVE TENTATIVE TRACT 8412 WITH THE CONDITION
AS AMENDED AND NOTED ABOVE:
AYES: Geiger, Higgins, Kerins, Wallin, Boyle, Porter
NOES: Bazil
ABSENT: None
THE MOTION PASSED.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 8477,
Applicant: Stellrecht-Bartoli
Tentative Tract No. 8477 is a request to permit 11 lots (Rl) on 2.13
acres located on the northwest corner of Springdale and Heil.
Mr. Bob Stellrecht addressed the Commission. He discussed the lot
adjacent to Church parking lot and stated that the driveway for the
Church on adjacent property will remain for the use of the Church.
Conditions of approval were discussed.
In response to Commissioner Porter's question as to what power will
be used, Mr. Stellrecht stated that the stove will be gas or electric,
water heater gas, and heating will be gas.
ON MOTION BY HIGGINS AND SECOND BY BAZIL TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 8477
WAS APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
1. The wall height on the corner of Lots 1 and 11 shall be reduced
to 42 inches in height and meet with the approval of the Planning
Department.
2. A thirteen foot parkway with meandering sidewalk shall be pro-
vided according to City standards along Springdale.
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3. A 6' decorative masonry wall shall be constructed along the
east, north, and south side of the tract. The wall shall be
integrated with that wall existing on the west side. Color
contrasts shall not be garish and shall be approved by the
Planning and'Public Works Departments.
4. The developer shall plant trees and shrubs along the rear
yards of the tract so as to buffer aesthetically and physically
the uses on the north and south sides of the tract. The
existing wall on the west shall also be buffered so as to
soften the ominous view. Landscape plans shall be submitted
to the Planning Department for approval.,
5. The map stamped September 24, 1973 is the approved map.
6. All applicable conditions of the standard conditions of approval
dated May 23, 1972 shall be complied with.
7. Applicant shall provide unit plotting and architectural treat-
ment for corner lots #1 and-11.
8. If a retention condition is created at the rear wall (property
line), existing wall shall be rebuilt or modified to City
specifications,,
9. If core samples indicate the need, then developer will pro-
vide for reconstruction of Springdale Street to center line.
10. The project shall be constructed with full insulation of all
exterior walls and ceilings to reduce the burden on heating
and cooling systems.
11. Building spoils, such as unusable lumber, wire, pipe, and
other surplus or unusable material shall be dumped at an
off -site facility equipped to handle them.
12. Both natural gas and electricity shall be stubbed in at clothes
drier locations.
AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Higgins, Kerins, Wallin, Boyle, Porter
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 73-48,APPEAL (Continued from 10/16/73).
Applicant: First Western Bank
Appellant: Heath and Company
Conditional Exception No. 73-48 is a request for a free-standing
sign at 43 ft. from side lot line located on the north side of
Warner Ave. 200 yards west of-Goldenwest Street.
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On September. 19, 1973, the'Board of Zoning Adjustments denied the
application for Conditional Exception No. 73-48 because (1) Applicant
failed to demonstrate justifiable hardship, and (2) Granting of this
Conditional Exception would constitute a special privilege.
Chairman Kerins opened the hearing to the public.
Mr. E. Briesemeister, 3225 Lacy Street, Los Angeles, California,
addressed the Commission. He introduced Mr. Jim Freeman of the
First Western Bank who addressed the Board, and explained the hard-
ship involved in the Bank's request.
There was a discussion on traffic pattern and the possible elimination
of one curb break to make room for a planter which would accommodate
the sign. Other alternatives were discussed. Mr. Freeman stated
that the Bank was on purchased property and not leased property,
and that the utilization is independent of the center development
insofar as drive-thru window requirements. Secretary Reynolds
indicated that reciprocal parking agreements should be pursued.
ON MOTION BY PORTER AND SECOND BY BOYLE APPEAL OF CONDITIONAL
EXCEPTION NO. 73-48 WAS DENIED, AND DECISION OF THE BOARD OF ZONING
ADJUSTMENTS UPHELD, FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS AND BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
1. Applicant has not shown sufficient hardship.
2. Project has 4 stalls more than required for bank structure and
as staff indicated loss of one parking stall would seem practical.
AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Higgins, Kerins, Wallin, Boyle, Porter
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
RALPH'S MARKET POLE SIGN - APPEAL
Appellant: Edward H. Kerins, Chairman, -Planning Commission
This is an appeal to Board of Zoning Adjustment's approval of a 106
sq. ft. pole sign at the southwest corner of Goldenwest Street and
Warner Avenue.
Chairman Kerins stated that he had reviewed the tape of the Board
of Zoning Adjustment meeting of October 3 as well as minutes from
Board of Zoning Adjustments, Planning Commission, and City Council
on the sign issue.
The Chairman opened the hearing to the public.
Mr. Bill Finkelberg, of Heath & Co., spoke in behalf of Mr. Woods,
Vice President of Ralph's;`stating that Mr. Woods was ill and had
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requested that if possible he would prefer a postponement in
order that representatives from Ralph's could speak in behalf
of the sign.
Staff's recommendations and a history of signing for the center
were discussed.
The Chairman closed the hearing to the public.
There was further discussion on Use Permit No. 72-33 and
Condition No. 13 therein.
ON MOTION BY BOYLE AND SECOND BY BAZIL APPEAL OF RALPH'S SIGN
BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS APPROVED AND APPROVAL OF BOARD
OF ZONING ADJUSTMENTS ON OCTOBER 3, 1973 DENIED FOR THE FOLLOWING
REASON AND WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
REASON
Condition No.. 13 of Use Permit No. 72-33.
CONDITION
Before approval could be given for such a sign a Plot Plan
Amendment would have to be filed. Reference is made to
S. 9811.4 of the Code.
VOTE:
AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Higgins, Kerins, Wallin, Boyle, Porter
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS
Commissioner Boyle requested the ERB staff to work on the energy
crisis and designate those facilities that can be powered by a
most efficient energy source. He stated he felt water heaters
should be gas with a choice for clothes driers, and that he felt
there was no need to have both gas and electricity for every
facility.
Commissioner Boyle stated he felt communication should be made
to the BZA indicating signs as structures should be processed
through a Use Permit.
Commissioner Wallin stated that she would like to require the
platting of units on a Tentative Tract for Planning Commission
approval.
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Chairman Kerins inquired about the sign ordinance and Secretary
Reynolds stated that a draft would be presented at their December 11,
1973 Study Session.
Chairman Kerins asked if there was anything new on State Guidelines.
Assistant City Attorney John O'Connor stated that he would follow
up and present his findings at the November 13 meeting.
Chairman Kerins requested a press release on the Growth Policy and
Secretary Reynolds stated that distribution had been thoroughly
covered including the press.
STAFF'S COMMENTS
Assistant City Attorney John O'Connor briefly discussed letter
directed to Planning Commission which had been passed out at the
meeting stating that Attorney's office had some concern that procedures
were not being followed at Commission meetings and the purpose of the
letter was to apprise Commission and Planning Department of various
procedures and hope that they will be adhered to in the future.
Secretary Reynolds discussed modification of Agenda to allow time
estimates on certain items which would allow staff and applicants
to approximate time of hearing or presentation and result in saving
time for both staff and applicant.
Secretary Reynolds briefly discussed the Taylor Street Specific Plan
and what had transpired at City Council Meeting November 5, 1973.
ADJOURNMENT
ON MOTION BY KERINS AND SECOND BY BAZIL THE MEETING ADJOURNED AT
11:15 P.M. TO NOVEMBER 13, 1973 STUDY SESSION BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Higgins,.Kerins, Wallin, Boyle, Porter
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
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X. A. ReynbldW Edward H. Ke in
Secretary Chairman
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