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HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
Council Chambers, Civic Center
Huntington Beach, CA
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 4, 1973 - 7 P.M. - REGULAR MEETING
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT:
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT:
Geiger, Bazil, Higgins, Kerins, Wallin
Commissioner Porter arrived at 7:10 P.M.
Boyle
NOTE: A TAPE RECORDING OF THIS MEETING IS ON FILE IN THE PLANNING
DEPARTMENT OFFICE.
CONSENT CALENDAR
ON MOTION BY HIGGINS AND SECOND BY BAZIL THE FOLLOWING ITEMS
WERE APPROVED AS RECOMMENDED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
Minutes
The Minutes of November 6, 1973 were approved as transcribed
and mailed.
ZONE CASE NO. 73-13
Initiated by: Planning Commission
Withdrawn with concurrence of staff and Planning Commission.
It will be handled as a part of the Land Use Element to the
General Plan.
TENTATIVE TRACT 5483
Applicant: Subdivider, Harbour Pacific" Ltd. J'-
Continued to December 18, 1973 to be heard in conjunction with
Conditional Use Permit No. 73-052 and Conditional Exception
No. 73-64. Meeting with Subdivision Committee and developer
is set for December 7 to review the site plan and tentative map.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7743/USE PERMIT NO. 72-82
Applicant: J.M.C. Construction Co.
At the request of applicant, Tentative Tract No. 7743 and
Use Permit No. 72-82 were withdrawn.
USE PERMIT NO. 73-46
Applicant: Steverson Bros.
Continued to March 5, 1974, at the request of applicant, and
with concurrence of staff, to allow applicant time to obtain
additional information and data relative to costs.
AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Higgins, Kerins, Wallin, Porter
NOES: None
ABSENT: Boyle
Minutes: H.B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, December 4, 1973
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REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS
PRESENTATION OF AWARD TO MR. BERRY BERKUS
Chairman Kerins presented an Award of Merit to Mr. Berkus for
outstanding architecture in the Tiburon Bay area. He stated
that his work has been written up in such magazines as Sunset,
Urban Land Institute, and House and Home. Mr. Berkus addressed
the Commission and staff and expressed his appreciation for the
award.
LETTER FROM JOHN BEHRENS DATED OCTOBER 23, 1973 TO PLANNING
COMMISSION. RE: COASTAL COMMISSION ACTION.
Mr. Behrens addressed the Commission and further explained the
letter. He outlined the relationship between the Coastal
Commission and the various departments in the City of Huntington
Beach. Commission discussion followed which covered such points
as the problem of enforcement of Coastal Commission conditions,
and possible ways of the City's enforcement of the conditions.
LAND USE ELEMENT AND CONSERVATION AND OPEN SPACE ELEMENTS TO
THE GENERAL PLAN
Mr. Ed Selich reviewed with the Commission all the changes which
came about as a result of the previous meeting, both in text of
the elements and on the maps. It was the consensus of the Commission
that the mobile home designation should remain on the Land Use Map.
The Commission was advised that they will be getting a copy of the
Flood Plain Ordinance from the City of Irvine this week.
Conservation and Open Space Element amendments were then discussed.
There was a discussion on a joint meeting with City Council set
for 6:00 P.M. in the Administrative Annex for December 11, at
which time staff will review Land Use Element and Conservation
and Open Space Elements - Phase I.
ZONE CASE NO. 73-21 (Continued from 10/2/73)
Applicant: Initiated by Planning Commission
in conjunction with
SPECIFIC PLAN NO. 73-1
Zone Case No. 73-21 is a request for redesignation of land use
and master plan categories, precise plan of street alignment,
closure of Taylor Drive, and establishment of buffer zone fronting
Taylor Drive, located in area bounded by Beach Blvd., Southern
Pacific Railroad, Taylor Drive, and Talbert Avenue.
Secretary Reynolds addressed the Commission and stated that the
City Council had referred the above items back to the Planning
Commission for reconsideration. Planning Commission is directed
by the City Council to report back to the City Council at the
December 17, 1973 meeting with results of their reconsideration.
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Tuesday, December 4, 1973
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The issues the ,Planning Commission were to review were size of
the park site, i.e. 2.9 acres versus 5 acres; alternatives on
buffer; and a review of zoning designation for existing
housing on the north side of Taylor Drive, just west of
commercial properties.
Vugraphs were shown and Commission discussion followed on
sidewalks versus no sidewalks, fencing, maintenance of property
and size of the park.
Recommendations of the staff were discussed.
ON MOTION BY HIGGINS AND SECOND BY PORTER COMMISSION APPROVED
A 15' WIDE BUFFER STRIP WHICH WOULD INCLUDE 5' PARKWAY WITH
NO SIDEWALK, WITH MAINTENANCE TO BE BY THE CITY, BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
AYES: Geiger, Higgins, Wallin, Porter
NOES: Bazil, Kerins
ABSENT: Boyle
There was further discussion by Commission.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY KERINS AND SECONDED BY GEIGER TO MODIFY
BUFFER STRIP TO 10' WITH NO SIDEWALK AND MAINTENANCE BY THE
CITY.
VOTE:
AYES: Kerins, Geiger, Higgins
NOES: Bazil, Wallin, Porter
ABSENT: Boyle
THE MOTION FAILED.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY BAZIL AND SECONDED BY KERINS TO MODIFY
BUFFER STRIP TO 10' WITH SIDEWALK.
VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Kerins, Higgins
NOES: Geiger, Wallin, Porter
ABSENT: Boyle
THE MOTION FAILED.
Commission discussed zoning.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY WALLIN AND SECONDED BY KERINS THAT PROPERTY
INDICATED AS LOW DENSITY BE RETURNED TO ORIGINAL ZONING AS
INDUSTRIAL LAND FOR REASON THAT PRESENT PROPERTY OWNERS DO HAVE
ACCESS TO AND WILL MAINTAIN ACCESS TO TAYLOR DRIVE.
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Tuesday, December 4, 1973
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VOTE:
AYES: Wallin, Kerins, Geiger
NOES: Porter,.Bazil, Higgins
ABSENT: Boyle
THE MOTION FAILED.
A motion was made and failed for lack of a second to accept
alternate plan indicating low density.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY HIGGINS TO RECONSIDER COMMISSIONER WALLIN'S
FIRST MOTION THAT PROPERTY INDICATED AS LOW DENSITY BE RETURNED
TO ORIGINAL ZONE AS INDUSTRIAL LAND, FOR REASON THAT PRESENT
PROPERTY OWNERS DO HAVE ACCESS TO AND WILL MAINTAIN ACCESS TO
TAYLOR DRIVE. KERINS SECONDED THE MOTION.
VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Kerins, Wallin, Geiger
NOES: Bazil, Porter
ABSENT: Boyle
THE MOTION PASSED.
MINORITY REPORT
Commissioner Bazil stated that if the property that is indicated
low density is zoned for industrial use the City would have to
provide access for said use to Taylor Drive since these parcels
already front on Taylor Drive. Present owners could not make
extensive repairs to their homes if needed because they would
be non -conforming uses. Industrial zoning would encourage the
present owners to resort to backyard industrial operations. He
stated that he felt it would be much better to leave property
in single family residential zoning.
There was a discussion on size of park site.
ON MOTION BY BAZIL AND SECOND BY GEIGER 2.9 ACRES WAS APPROVED
FOR PARK SITE FOR REASON THAT POPULATION IN AREA DOES NOT
WARRANT INCREASE IN SIZE OF PARK BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Kerins, Wallin
NOES: Higgins, Porter
ABSENT: Boyle
Mr. Norm Worthy, representing the Recreation and Parks Commission
addressed the Commission and spoke in behalf of increasing the
size of the park to 5 acres. He stated that an.approximate
1200 sq. ft. building had been donated for use in the park and
presented a layout of park in two different sizes.
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Tuesday, December 4, 1973
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Mr. Ronald Russell, of the Five Points Homeowners Association,
addressed the Commission and spoke in favor of a 5 acre
park site as opposed to 2.9 recommended by the Commission.
MINORITY REPORT
Commissioner Porter submitted the following minority report
on Specific Plan No. 73-1:
1. If the school site had remained, the residents south
of Taylor Avenue would have had more than 5 acres of
recreational area. A 2.5 or 2.9 acre park will deprive
them of a neighborhood recreational area comparable
to other residential areas where schools are located.
2. This area has been promised a park for many years and
has anticipated a recreational area of the size
indicated above. To reduce that would be unfair. The
funds are available to provide the larger site.
3. Our adopted park standard is 5 acres per 1000. It should
be adhered to.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 73-052
Subdivider: Harbour Pacific Ltd.
This is a request for 120 lots on 23.4 acres located on the
southwest corner of Edinger Ave. and Trinidad Lane.
Secretary Reynolds requested that the hearing should be
opened to the public and continued to December 18, 1973.
He further stated that Conditional Use Permit No. 73-052
in conjunction with Tentative Tract No. 5483 will be dis-
cussed by the developer with the Subdivision Committee on
December 7, and parking information from Herman Kimmel &
Associates should be available at that time.
The Chairman opened the hearing to the public, and continued
the hearing to December 18, 1973 meeting.
ON MOTION BY HIGGINS AND SECOND BY WALLIN CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT NO. 73-052 WAS CONTINUED TO DECEMBER 18, 1973 BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Higgins, Kerins, Wallin, Porter
NOES: None
ABSENT: Boyle
ZONE CASE NO. 73-19
Applicant: Initiated by the Planning Commission
Zone Case No. 73-19 is a request to change existing R1 zone
to ROS Recreation Open Space (Existing use - golf course)
to keep zoning in compliance with Master Plan. This property
is located on the northeast corner of Graham Street and
Warner Avenue.
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Tuesday, December 4, 1973
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Secretary Reynolds addressed the Commission and discussed
the staff's recommendation for a continuance to April 30,
1974 due to the new date schedule of the Environmental Impact
Report which would cover all areas designated for ROS. Com-
mission discussion followed on those areas within the corporate
limits of the City of Huntington Beach that were to be zoned
ROS. It was the consensus of the Commission that four areas
would fall in this ROS category: (1) Edison easement presently
being used for recreation, (2) Meadowlark Golf Course, (3) Sea -
cliff Golf Course, and (4) Huntington Harbor Beach Club.
ON MOTION BY GEIGER AND SECOND BY BAZIL THE PLANNING COMMISSION
RECOMMENDED THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW BOARD CONSIDER THE
FOLLOWING AREAS FOR NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND PROCESSING BY
THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
1. Edison easement presently being used for recreation.
2. Meadowlark Golf Course.
3. Seacliff Golf Course.
4. Huntington Harbor Beach Club.
AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Higgins, Kerins, Wallin, Porter
NOES: None
ABSENT: Boyle
Chairman Kerins declared a ten minute recess at 9:35 P.M.
MISCELLANEOUS
REMOVAL OF EUCALYPTUS TREES ALONG THE WESTERLY PROPERTY LINE
OF TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 7771.
A letter recommending removal of the trees had been received
by Commission from Jim Palin. Daryl Smith addressed the
Commission and discussed the diseased condition of trees.
Photographs were presented to Commission for their review.
Commission requested that a separate landscape plan for area
where removal of trees is necessary to be prepared. Mr. Palin
stated that the developer is willing to furnish such a plan.
TRACT 7772 PERIMETER WALL (PRD)
Mr. Cronk addressed the Commission and stated that he hoped that
any wall built would serve as a retaining wall to stop adjacent
property from sliding down into the tract.
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Tuesday, December 4, 1973
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WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
A letter from George D. Stringer was discussed. It contained
current information on the status of the acquisition of
portions of the Bolsa Chica property by the Metropolitan
Water District.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Ms. Ruth Finley, League of Women Voters, addressed the
Commission and asked for clarification of Mr. Behren's
presentation concerning the City's relationship with the
Coastal Commission. It was noted that staff does receive
conditions imposed by the Coastal Commission. The City
is not in a legal position to enforce the Commission's
conditions of approval.
Mr. Thomas Shelton addressed the Commission and requested that
they give their approval to proceed with paving of Newland
St. to entrance street of his development. (Tract 7772)
Commission discussion followed.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY BAZIL AND SECONDED BY HIGGINS TO ALLOW
IMPROVEMENT TO THE POINT OF HIS ACCESS, SUBJECT TO DETERMINING
BY OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT THAT THIS ALIGNMENT WILL BE IN
ACCORD WITH14THEIR WISHES AND WILL NOT REMOVE ANY ADDITIONAL
TREES WITHIN THE CONFINES OF HUNTINGTON BEACH.
VOTE:
AYES: Geiger,
NOES: Wallin,
ABSENT: Boyle
THE MOTION FAILED
Bazil, Higgins
Kerins, Porter
COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS
Chairman Kerins reminded the Commission that he would like
very much to start the meetings promptly at 7:00 P.M.
Commissioner Higgins stated that he would like to see the
meetings speeded up.
Commissioner Wallin inquired if a copy of the sign code had
been sent to the Design Review Board.
Chairman Kerins requested that a list of people who had
received sign code be furnished the Commission.
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Tuesday, December 4, 1973
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'Commissioner Wallin suggested that staff present any suggestions
they might have on energy conservation in NEW homes
Mr. Spencer, Building Department, stated he would come back to
Commission with any suggestions he could furnish. This related
to homes that had large amount of glass in windows and doors.
This information could be passed on to developers.
Commissioner Geiger stated this should be energy conservation
and not use of energy.
Commissioner Bazil stated that he would want any study to be
reflected in Ordinance changes and not conditions placed on
developer by the Planning Commission.
STAFF'S COMMENTS
Assistant City Attorney John O'Connor discussed Senate Bill 716
which will require members of Planning Commission as well as
members of other groups to file statement in April of each year.
This will become effective January 1, 1974. He stated that members
of the Commission would be furnished a copy.
ON MOTION BY KERINS AND SECOND BY WALLIN THE PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING ADJOURNED TO A 6:00 P.M. MEETING ON TUESDAY, DECEMBER 11,
1973 AT THE ADMINISTRATIVE ANNEX, 523 MAIN STREET, HUNTINGTON BEACH,
CALIFORNIA, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: 4
AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Higgins, Kerins, Wallin, Porter
NOES: None
ABSENT: Boyle
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K. A. Reynolds Edward H. Keri s
Secretary Chairman
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