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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1973-12-1114INUTES HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COM14ISSION Council Chambers, Civic Center Huntington Beach, California TUESDAY, DECEMBER 11, 1973-- 7 P.M. - ADJOURNED 14EETING COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Geiger, Bazil, Kerins, Boyle Commissioner Higgins arrived at 7:08 P.M. Commissioner Porter arrived at 7:12 P.M. LOANIISS10NERS ABSENT: Wallin NOTE: A TAPE RECORDING OF THIS MEETING IS ON FILE IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT OFFICE. CONSENT CALENDAR ON MOTION BY BOYLE AND SECOND BY BAZIL THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WERE APPROVED AS RECOMMENDED BY THE FOLLOWING;VOTE: Minutes: The Minutes of November 11, 20, and 27, 1973 .were approved as transcribed and mailed. AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Kerins, Boyle 140ES : None ABSENT: Higgins, Porter, Wallin REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS LAND USE ELEMENT TO THE GENERAL PLAN', Secretary Reynolds addressed the'Commission and stated that the City Council had agreed to a Special Adjourned Meeting..on December 19, 1973 for a,public hearing to consider the recommendations of the Commission on the Land Use Element to'the General.Plan. Mr. Ed Selich addressed the Commission and discussed the ameldments to the Land Use Element. He discussed the updated Land Use Map which was on display. He stated that the only comments received by staff have been concerning the planning reserve designation instituted is large part of planning area: Chairman Kerins opened the'hearing to -the public, Mr. Dennis R. Catua addressed the Commission and expressed concern over property located at Ellis and Goldenwest which falls in the planning reserve area and asked when it.would be designated for use. - Secretary Reynolds stated that studies should be concluded prior to September of 1974, and that property is already zoned with various classifications in that general area. Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, December 11, 19732 Page 2 Mr. Ray Allen addressed the Commission stating that he was the owner of S acres on Ellis near Goldenwest. He stated that he was unable to develop property as a subdivision because lie could not get proper zoning. He was informed by Chairman Kerins that the property was in planning reserve area and the study would be completed next year. Mrs. Margaret Carlberg addressed the Commission and referred to specific areas in the text of the Land Use Element to the General Plan which she stated contained incorrect information. Mr. Ralph Ashton addressed the Commission and stated that he and his sister own 5 acres on the north side of Schleicher Street between Goldenwest and Edwards Streets which is in the planning reserve area. He further stated that without rezoning to permit the sale of property they are denied reasonable use of the property. he stated that they would like property rezoned to R1'. Mr. David Val addressed the Commission and stated that he -represented twenty-five land owners. lie stated that'these people owned property in the planning reserve area and were desirous of having property zoned for their best interest. Secretary Reynolds stated that a good deal of study has been given to the areas designated as planning reserve and that two main issues remain to be settled, (1) the extent of the industrial use and (2) what kind of residential would occur if industrial zoning is modified. Chairman Kerins directed staff to amend the text of the Land Use Element and General.Plan to reflect changes pointed out by Airs. Carlberg. ON MOTION BY PORTER AND SECOND BY BOYLE PUBLIC HEARING ON LAND USE ELEMENT TO THE GENERAL PLAN WAS CONTINUED TO DECEMBER 18, 1973 MEETING PENDING RECEIPT OF INPUT FROM ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW BOARD BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Higgins,.Kerins; Boyle, Porter , NOES: None ABSENT: Wallin CONSERVATION AND OPEN SPACE ELEMENT TO THE GENERAL PLAN Mr. Ed Selicti addressed the .Commission and noted amendments which had been submitted for Commission's review. Chairman Kerins opened the hearing to the"public. Minutes: ff. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, December 11, 1973 Page 3 Airs. 14argaret Carlberg addressed the Commission and made reference -to minor changes to the text which she stated would be submitted in typewritten form to the staff. Chairman Kerins directed staff to consider changes to the text recommended by Airs. Carlberg. ON NOTION BY BAZIL AND SECOND BY BOYLE PUBLIC HEARING ON CONSERVA- TIOi\� AND OPEN SPACE ELEMENT TO THE GENERAL PLAN WAS CONTINUED TO DECEMBER 18, 1973 MEETING PENDING RECEIPT OF INPUT FROM ENVIRON- MENTAL REVIEW BOARD BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Higgins, Kerins, Boyle, Porter NOES: None ABSENT: Wallin PARKING STUDY SUBMITTED BY HUNTINGTON HARBOUR CORPORA"TION.(TENTATIVE TRACT 5483*, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 73-052*, CONDITIONAL EXCEP- TION NO. 73-64) Secretary Reynolds stated that the present ordinance calls for 4.5 parking spaces per unit and that members of the Huntington Harbour Corporation had requested time to speak on this subject prior, to next Subdivision Committee meeting. �+ x Mr. Dale Dunn and Mr. Wm. Duncan, of the Huntington Harbour,fCorpora- tion, addressed the Commission and discussed reduction in parking ratio. They stated that the Merman Kimmel report indicated 3 parking spaces per unit seems to be maximum required. Commissioner Bazil stated that by adding more spaces, it would still not deter people from parking on the street. He felt that the parking requirements were too high. Commissioner Geiger concurred with Commissioner Bazil. He further stated that he would be in favor of widening the streets as well as decreasing number of parking spaces per unit over the amount which is presently required. Chairman Kerins stated that he finds it difficult to find parking in ocean -oriented -residential developments. Secretary Reynolds stated that the results -of the census will be in around Christmas. Included will be information on number of automobiles, which will be helpful in these types of studies. The balance of the parking study is expected'to be complete in January. It deals with the functional aspects of parking such as turning radius, stall size and accessibility. Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, December 11, 1973 Page-4 No action was taken on this matter. POLICY STATEMENT FOR ALLEYS IN FOUR-PLEX DEVELOPMENTS The staff report was discussed which covered advantages and disad- vantages of alleys. Commissioner 8azil stated that he did not advocate making it a firm policy of the Commission to approve only four-plex developments which had alleys. Rather the Commission should encourage developers to provide alleys where there was sufficient open space. Commissioner Higgins did not feel it should be a hard and fast rule or condition of approval that alleys be provided, particularly on narrow lots. Chairman Kerins directed staff to advise. developers that alleys would be preferable-if.,space permitted. There was a discussion of possible crime increase where entry is through alleys. It was the consensus of the Commission that the requirement of alleys should be a discretionary act of the Commission. At 8:40 P.M. the meeting adjourned for a ten minute recess. Commissioner Bazil was excused. SIGHT ANGLE SETBACK STUDY Staff report was discussed. Mr. Dave Eadie gave a presentation on his studies and vugraphs were shown. A model was set up for display. Mr. Eadie stated that he found the average height of the recreational vehicles to be between 9 and 10-feet high. Mr. Cormier's request that the Ordinance be changed to permit 7 foot high vehicles displayed would not -be practical in view,of this finding. The consensus of the Commission was to not change the Ordinance to 7 feet as originally discussed but to leave it as it is. CODE AMENDMENT NO. 73-31 - SIGN CODE Air. Fred Ritter addressed the Commission and presented an intro- duction and overview of the proposed sign ordinance. He discussed background of sign code objectives and compared the new code to the existing code. The third phase of sign program,'Code Amendment No. 73-31, was discussed by Commission page by page with deletions, additions, and amendments recommended to staff. Minutes: H. B. Planning Commission Tuesday, December 11, 1973 Page 5 Mr. Arden Berg addressed Commission and discussed problems that Costa Mesa has faced in adopting similar sign code. The staff was directed to request input from the Sign Committee and to incorporate changes recommended by the Commission. Staff was also directed to work with City Attorney's office prior to presentation of next draft at the January 22, 1974 meeting. MISCELLANEOUS LETTER FROM H. E. HARTGE RE CONSTRUCTION OF NEWLAND ST. ADJACENT TO TRACT 7771 Daryl Smith addressed Commission and discussed conditions of the trees on the east side of Newland Street, stating that they were diseased and in need of treatment. He presented some infrared photographs of the trees and stated that the life expectancy of the trees could not be determined. Commission discussion followed. A MOTION WAS MADE BY GEIGER AND SECONDED BY HIGGINS TO ALLOW ALPINE CIVIL ENGINEERS IMPROVEMENT OF NEWLAND STREET TO THE POINT OF ACCESS SUBJECT TO DETERMINATION BY CITY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT THAT THIS ALIGNMENT WILL BE IN ACCORD WITH THEIR WISHES AND WILL NOT REMOVE ANY ADDITIONAL TREES WITHIN THE CONFINES OF HUNTINGTON BEACH. VOTE: AYES: Geiger, Higgins, Boyle NOES: Kerins, Porter -" ABSENT: Wallin, Bazil THE MOTION CARRIED. COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS Commissioner Porter to determine exact location in Bolsa Chica Bay area where pressure caps have been installed and contact Ralph Leyva to determine if water and sewer are both adequate in Huntington Harbour area. Commissioner Higgins would like to know if there will be a Planning Institute meeting in February in Palm Springs. Chairman Kerins requested that a member of the Board of Zoning Adjustments attend all Planning Commission meetings. 1 Minutes: H.B. Planning Commission Tuesday, December 11, 1973 Page 6 Chairman Kerins requested staff to contact Sign Committee and get them working on Sign Code so that some background can be furnished on January 22 meeting. Chairman Kerins requested staff to check on the McDonald's restaurant located on Edinger with regard to its meeting parking requirements after recent remodeling. Chairman Kerins requested staff to advise Commission of the status of apartment zoning density and increased open space for ocean oriented property. Mr. Palin stated that an EIR will be completed in April. Chairman Kerins directed staff to prepare a communication from Planning Commission to City Council and request that they submit to State Legislature a request for Metropolitan Water District to locate their proposed facility at another site, outlining other sites and reasons for moving to another site. ON MOTION BY HIGGINS AND SECOND BY PORTER THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO DECEMBER 18, 1973 BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: AYES: Geiger, Higgins, Kerins, Boyle, Porter NOES: None ABSENT: Wallin, Bazil K. A. Reynolds Edward H. Kerins Secretary Chairman 1 1 1