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HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
Council Chambers, Civic Center
Huntington Beach, California
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 22, 1974 - 7:00 P.M. - ADJOURNED MEETING
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Geiger, Higgins, Kerins, Finley, Boyle, Porter
Commissioner Bazil arrived at 7:10 P.M.
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: None
NOTE: A TAPE RECORDING OF THIS MEETING IS ON FILE IN THE PLANNING
DEPARTMENT OFFICE.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 74-10 (Continued from 10/15/74)
In Conjunction With:
TENTATIVE TRACT 8687
Applicant: Graziadio Development Co.
Tentative Tract No. 8687 and Conditional Use Permit No. 74-10 filed
on June 25, 1974, are requests to permit an approximate 10 acres ---
of land to be developed as a 79 unit statutory condominium develop--
ment pursuant to Article 931 of the Huntington Beach Ordinance
Code. Subject property is located on the southeast corner of
Chapel Lane and Ellis Avenue in the R1 and R3 districts.
Mr. James Palin addressed the Commission and discussed the recom-
mendations of the Environmental Review Board from the original
staff report reviewed by the Planning Commission on September 4, 1974.
Mr. Palin stated that the staff had prepared suggested conditions
of approval. Mr. Palin further stated that the applicant had
submitted revised maps, whereby he now meets all suggested
amended conditions of approval of the Environmental.Review Board.
Commission discussed proposed plans with staff. Aerial slides of
the proposal and surrounding properties were shown.
Commissioner Porter inquired about a description of the elevations.
Mr. Palin answered Commissioner Porter describing the elevations
as a cut and fill balance operation.
Chairman Kerins opened the public hearing on Conditional Use Permit
No. 74-10.
Mr. Louis Graziadio, the applicant, addressed the Commission to
answer any questions the Commission may have of him'.
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Tuesday, -Oct. 22, 1974
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Mr. Andrew Kotavary addressed the Commission and explained the
proposed grading in full detail. Mr. Kotavary also presented
Elevations and the proposed drainage for the development.
Chairman Kerins inquired about possible Tot Lots to be a part
of the development. Mr. Graziadio stated that he had no plans
at the present for,any Tot Lot proposal.
Slides of architectural renderings were presented by Mr. Graziadio.
The applicant indicated which trees were to remain. Types of roofs
we're discussed.
The size of the proposed units were discussed as well as the
generation of additional students for the immediate school district.
Commissioner Higgins stated that it was his feeling that the
Commission had not been presented with sufficient material whereby
the Commission could take action on the application. He further
stated that mere elevations or a'rendering is not sufficient
material for the Commission to base its action on. The Commission
concurred with Commissioner Higgins and requested the applicant to
submit further landscaping plans, plans showing types of units,
types of patios, etc.
Mr. Dave Diamond of the HOME Council addressed the Commission and
stated the HOME Council's opposition to the proposal. He stated
that although he personally approves of the quality of the proposal,
the granting of Conditional Exception 74-02 as it relates to the
project by the City Council, in his words, "without sufficient
hardship" may possibly provoke a lawsuit against the City of
Huntington Beach by the HOME Council.
Mr. Diamond stated that the HOME Council felt that the proposal
would create problems on overloading of schools and that patio
walls should be brought into conformance with the ordinance.
Therefore, Mr. Diamond requested the Commission to continue
Conditional Use Permit No. 74-10 and Tentative Tract 8687 until
such time as litigation considerations are completed.
At there were no further parties to speak in favor or opposition
to Conditional Use Permit No. 74-10 or Tentative Tract 8687, the
Chairman closed the public hearing.
It was the consensus of the Commission to continue these applications
on the basis of insufficient information and not due to HOME Council's
legal concerns.
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Tuesday, Oct. 22, 1974
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ON MOTION BY BOYLE AND SECOND BY HIGGINS CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT NO., 74-10 WAS CONTINUED TO NOVEMBER 5, 1974 WITH THE
CONCURRENCE OF THE APPLICANT TO ALLOW COMPLIANCE WITH S.9310.3
OF THE HUNTINGTON BEACH ORDINANCE CODE REQUIRING ALL PLANS TO
BE SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW.
Commission discussion followed.
In response to a question asked by the applicant, Mr. O'Connor,
Deputy City Attorney, stated that it was the Attorney's office
and the Department of Public Works Office opinion that the
Homeowners Association is to maintain the walls surrounding
the proposal.
AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Higgins, Kerins, Finley, Porter, Boyle
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ON MOTION BY KERINS AND SECOND BY BAZIL TENTATIVE.TRACT 8687 WAS
CONTINUED TO NOVEMBER 5, 1974 WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE
APPLICANT BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Higgins, Kerins, Finley, Porter, Boyle
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
DISCUSSION - CODE AMENDMENT NO. 74-6
"Article 979 Revision"
John Cope addressed the Commission and stated that the major
revisions which would be effectuated by the amendment involved
new provisions for the screening of parking areas; a new
minimum turning radius for both commercial and industrial
parking areas, new off-street parking requirements for medical
and dental offices, and provisions for the joint use of
parking areas.
Discussion ensued regarding further changes and revisions to the
Code Amendment. It was Commissioner Porter's feeling that
additional landscaping should be distributed among the parking
area. Commissioner Bazil felt that bumper stops should be placed
further from the fence to avoid damage to the fence should a
car back into the parking space. The possibility of dropping
the berming and wall both to 20" instead of 32" was discussed.
It was Commissioner Bazil's opinion that a more aesthetically
pleasing wall would be to leave the wall at 32 inches and lower
the berming to 20".
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Tuesday, Oct. 22, 1974
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It was the consensus of the Commission to direct staff to pursue
additional revisions to the existing code amendment and come
back to the Commission with such amendments.
DISCUSSION - CODE AMENDMENT NO. 74-9
"Building Height Designation Revisions"
John Cope addressed the Commission and stated that Code Amendment
74-9 is an attempt to equate building heights and height designations
in terms of feet rather than number of stories. He further stated
that direction to prepare this code amendment was given by the
Planning Commission on May 15, 1974, with subsequent direction
coming from the City Council. The proposed revision applies to
all districts, and further involves some amendments to the language
of various sections dealing,with building heights.
Commission discussed Code Amendment No. 74-9.
ON MOTION BY BOYLE AND SECOND BY BAZIL COMMISSION REQUESTED THAT
CODE AMENDMENT NO. 74-9 BE SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING. SAID AMENDMENT
WOULD EQUATE BUILDING HEIGHTS AND HEIGHT DESIGNATIONS IN TERMS OF
FEET RATHER THAN NUMBER OF STORIES.
VOTE:
AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Higgins, Kerins, Finley, Boyle, Porter
NOES: None ,
ABSENT: None
DISCUSSION - CODE AMENDMENT NO. 74-12
"R-1 Rear Yard Setback Classification"
Dave Eadie addressed the Commission to clarify some of the provisions
of -the Code Amendment. He further stated that direction for the
preparation of this Code Amendment derived from the Planning
Commission's desire to incorporate a clarification'in the wording
of Section 9103 Rear Yar'd'Setback as it pertains to permanent
open space. The staff has reviewed the request and has incorporated
the words "Open Land" in lieu of "Permanent Open Space" into the Code.
In addition to this change, the staff also recommends the additional
deletion of words from Section 9103.3 and Section 9103.2.1.2 which
are confused and cause a lack of clarity.
Commission discussed Code Amendment No. 74-12.
ON MOTION BY BOYLE AND SECOND BY BAZIL COMMISSION REQUESTED THAT
CODE AMENDMENT NO. 74 12BE SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING. SAID AMENDMENT
WOULD CLARIFY THE TERM PERMANENT OPEN SPACE AS IT RELATES TO REAR
YARD SETBACKS AND STRUCTURES WITHIN THE REAR YARD SETBACKS IN THE
LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
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Tuesday, Oct. 22, 1974
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VOTE:
AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Higgins, Kerins, Finley, Boyle, Porter
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
DISCUSSION - CODE AMENDMENT NO. 74-13
"Elimination of 7-1/2 ft. Variation in Garage Setbacks"
Dave Eadie presented Code Amendment No. 74-13 which is an
amendment to repeal the 7-1/2 ft. variation in garage set-
backs. The proposed Code -Amendment originated because
of problems created by the 7-1/2 ft. garage setbacks. The
Police Department concurs- with the proposed code amendment
regarding the creation of traffic safety and violations
thereof.
Commission discussed Code Amendment No. 74-13
ON MOTION BY BOYLE AND. -SECOND BY FINLEY COMMISSION REQUESTED
THAT CODE AMENDMENT NO. 74-13 BE SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING. SAID
AMENDMENT WOULD REPEAL THE 7-1/2 FT. VARIATION IN GARAGE
SETBACKS.
VOTE:
AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Higgins, Kerins, Finley, Boyle, Porter
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
DISCUSSION - PLANNING COMMISSION WORK PROGRAM 1974
Dave Eadie described and discussed the Current Planning
Projects outlining current and proposed code amendments.
Jim Palin described and discussed the PRD Low Density, PRD
High Density and Condominium Conversions code amendments.
He stated that the Low Density amendment would be brought
to the Planning Commission Study Session in November and
the Condominium Conversion would have priority over the
PRD High Density amendment.
Ed Selich discussed and updated the three Advance Planning
Work Programs. He stated that top priority would be given
to the General Plan.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS:—
Dick.Harlow presented the "Large Lot _Study': to the Commission.
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Tuesday, Oct. 22, 1974
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ORAL C014MUNICATIONS:
NONE
COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS
Commissioner Geiger expressed concerns over the Yorktown School
Site. His concerns were over the proposed sale of the site by the
School Board. Commissioner Finley stated that if the School
Board decided to sell the site, it would take many different
steps and would not be something that would happen too fast.
She further stated that the proposed sale at this time is too
much of a controversial issue.
Commissioner Geiger expressed concerns over the impact of off shore
drilling as it relates to affecting the recreational beach area.
His concerns were not of environmental impacts but rather those
of economic impacts. -Commissioner Boyle agreed to look into all
impacts of off shore drilling and what effects it has on the
city.
Mr. Palin stated that all impacts of off shore drilling would be
brought to the attention of the public through the EIR which is
presently being written.
Chairman Kerins stated that all impacts could be brought out at the
time of the public hearing on the EIR.
Chairman Kerins directed staff to investigate the latest status of
off shore drilling and return with recommendations.
Chairman Kerins expressed concerns over proposals before the Planning
Commission not having necessary maps and information available
prior to commission hearing the item. He felt staff should recommend
continuance until such time that all needed information has been
received and reviewed by the Commission. Commissioner Porter, being
a member of the Subcommittee, stated.that he will make sure that all
information required'is available at the time the application is
being heard by the Planning Commission.
STAFF'S COMMENTS
None
ON MOTION BY BOYLE AND SECOND BY BAZIL THE MEETING ADJOURNED AT
11:00 P.M. BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Higgins, -Kerins, Finley, Boyle, Porter
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
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Richard A. Harlow
Secretary
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Edward H. Kerins
Chairman