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HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
Council Chambers, Civic Center
Huntington Beach, California
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 5, 1974 - 7 P.M.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Geiger, Bazil, Kerins, Finley, Boyle, Porter
Commissioner Higgins arrived at 7:35 P.M.
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: None
NOTE: A TAPE RECORDING OF THIS MEETING IS ON FILE IN THE PLANNING
DEPARTMENT OFFICE.
CONSENT CALENDAR
ON MOTION BY BOYLE AND SECOND BY KERINS THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WERE
APPROVED AS RECOMMENDED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
MINUTES
The Minutes of October 15, 1974 and October 22, 1974 were approved.
TENTATIVE TRACT 5664
In Conjunction With
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 74-04
Continued to November 19, 1974 at the request of applicant and
with concurrence of staff.
AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Kerins, Finley, Boyle, Porter
NOES: None
ABSENT: Higgins
REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 74-10
In Conjunction With
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 8687
Applicant: Graziadio Development Co.
Tentative Map No. 8687 and Conditional Use Permit No. 74-10,
filed on June 25 and June 27, 1974, respectively, are requests
to permit the subdivision of approximately 10 acres of land
into a 79 unit planned development pursuant to Article 931.
The property is located on the southeast corner of Ellis Avenue and
Chapel Lane.
Mr. James Palin addressed the Commission and noted that revised
maps had been submitted by the applicant, and noted that a
minimum amount of grading would be required which will be on
the southern portion of property. There was a discussion on the
bicycle trail.
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Minutes: H.B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, November 5, 1974
Page 2
Commissioner Porter indicated his concern over the relocation of
the trees and discussed signalization on Ellis.
The Chairman opened the public hearing.
Mr. L. Grazaidio addressed the Commission and stated he would be
glad to answer any questions concerning the project and that he
had his engineer and landscape architect present to also answer
questions.
Mr. Bill Johnson, landscape consultant, addressed the Commission
and stated that he had been consulting with Mr. Daryl Smith on the
relocation of the trees, and that it was impossible to predict at this
time whether the trees could be saved but that it was their desire
to save as many as possible in transplanting.
Commission discussed placing recreational facilities for young
children in some of the open space.
The Chairman closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Porter stated that he would not approve the applications
for the reason that the question of the saving of the trees was
not resolved to his satisfaction.
There was a discussion on signalization at Ellis and Chapel and
Mr. Bill Hartge, Director of Public Works, stated that a traffic
signal at this point would not be appropriate. However, it is
conceivable if the bicycle trail becomes continuous perhaps a
crossing light with push button activation could be installed.
The staff was directed to note the signalization problem for future
study and report back to the Planning Commission at an appropriate
time.
ON MOTION BY BOYLE AND SECOND BY BAZIL CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
NO. 74-10 WAS APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
1. The Tentative Tract Map and Precise Plan dated November 1, 1974
shall be the approved layout.
2. All vehicular access rights to Chapel Lane and Ellis Avenue
shall be dedicated to the City of Huntington Beach, except at
street intersections.
3. The sewer, water, and fire hydrant system shall be designed to
City standards.
4. The water system shall be through the City of Huntington Beach's
water system.
5. Sewage disposal shall be through the City of Huntington Beach
sewage system.
Minutes: H.B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, November 5, 1974
Page 3
6. Subject property shall be subject to local drainage assess-
ment district requirements and fees. Drainage fees in
the amount of $4,000 per acre shall be deposited with
the City prior to the approval of a grading plan.
7. All utilities, including those existing overhead utilities
installed on Chapel Lane, shall be installed underground.
8. Drainage for the subdivision shall be approved by the
Department of Public Works prior to recordation of a
final map. This system shall be designed to provide
for siltation and erosion control, both during and after
construction of the proposed project.
9. A decorative masonry wall shall be constructed to City
specifications along Chapel Lane and Ellis Avenue. Said
wall shall be 6" wide and 6' high. The height of said wall
shall be measured from whichever side is higher at
finished grade. The architectural design of said wall
shall be approved by the Planning Department prior to
the issuance of Building permits on the project.
Structural design of said wall shall be approved by the
Department of Public Works, and shall be included as
a part of the street improvement plan.
10. An easement for a bike trail along the bluff on the
easterly portion of the property shall be dedicated
to the City of Huntington Beach. Said trail system
shall be at a location to be determined by the Planning
Department, and shown on the landscaping plan to be
filed and approved by the Board of Zoning Adjustments
prior to recordation of the final tract map.
11. Recreational facilities for young children shall be
provided in appropriate places.
12. If the developer proposes to provide air conditioning,
the insulation in the exterior ceilings shall be a
minimum of R-19 and that in the exterior walls shall
be a minimum of R-11; if no air conditioning is to
be provided, the insulation in the exterior ceilings
shall be a minimum of R-13 and that in the exterior
walls shall be a minimum of R-7.
13. All building spoils, such as unusable lumber, wire,
pipe, and other surplus or unusable material shall
be disposed of at an offsite facility equipped to handle
them.
14. Natural gas and electricity shall be stubbed in at the
locations of clothes dryers, and natural gas only shall
be stubbed in at the locations of cooking facilities,
water heaters, and central heating units:
Minutes: H.B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, November 51,1974..
Page A
15. Double -paned windows shall be installed within the units facing
onto the adjacent arterial highway.
16. A 35' setback shall be provided from the living quarters of the
units facing the arterial highway to the nearest travel land
of that arterial.
17. A soils engineer and/or geologist familiar with local seismic
conditions shall be engaged to indicate the G-factors due to
earth movement for this location.
18. The City shall pursue with applicant an easement for bicycle
access across the natural bluff area, for a bicycle lane to
serve as an intertie with the bicycle lane north of Ellis,
which the City has committed itself to on Tentative Tract
7771.
19. A structural engineer shall be engaged to compile calculations
for footings and structural members of the facility to with-
stand these G-factors.
20. The location of the trees to be saved for replanting shall be
shown on final landscape plan for review and approval action
by the Planning Commission.
AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Higgins, Kerins, Finley, Boyle
NOES: Porter
ABSENT: None
ON MOTION BY BOYLE AND SECOND BY GEIGER TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 8687
WAS APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
1. The Tentative Tract Map and Precise Plan dated November 1, 1974
shall be the approved layout.
2. All vehicular access rights to Chapel Lane and Ellis Avenue
shall be dedicated to the City of Huntington Beach, except at
street intersections.
3. The sewer,'water, and fire hydrant system shall be designed to
City standards.
4. The water system shall be through the City of Huntington Beach's
water system.
5. Sewage disposal shall be through the City of Huntington Beach
sewage system.
6. Subject property shall be subject to local drainage assessment
district requirements and fees. Drainage fees in the amount of
$4,000 per acre shall be deposited with the City prior to the
approval of a grading plan.
Minutes: H.B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, November 51 1974
Page 5
7. All utilities, including those existing overhead utilities
installed on Chapel Lane, shall be installed underground.
8. Drainage for the subdivision shall be approved by the
Department of Public Works prior to recordation of a final
map. This system shall be designed to provide for siltation
and erosion control, both during and after construction of
the proposed project.
9. A decorative masonry wall shall be constructed to City
specifications along Chapel Lane and Ellis Avenue. Said
wall shall be 6" wide and 6' high. The height of said
wall shall be measured from whichever side is higher
at finished grade. The architectural design of said
wall shall be approved by the Planning Department prior
to the issuance of Building permits on the project. Structural
design of said wall shall be approved by the Department of
Public Works, and shall be included as a part of the street
improvement plan.
10. An easement for a bike trail along the bluff on the easterly
portion of the property shall be dedicated to the City of
Huntington Beach. Said trail system shall be at a location
to be determined by the Planning Department, and shown on
the landscaping plan to be filed and approved by the Board
of Zoning Adjustments prior to recordation of the final tract
map.
11. Recreational facilities for young children shall be provided
in appropriate places.
12. If the developer proposes to provide air conditioning, the
insulation in the exterior ceilings shall be a minimum of
R-19 and that in -the exterior walls shall be a minimum of
R-11; if no air conditioning is to be provided, the
insulation in the exterior ceilings shall be a minimum,,of
R-13 and that in the exterior walls shall be a minimum of
R- 7 .
13. All building spoils, such as unusable lumber, wire, pipe,
and other surplus or unusable material shall be disposed
of at an offsite facility equipped to handle them.
14. Natural gas and electricity shall be stubbed in at the
locations of•clothes dryers, and natural gas only shall
be stubbed in at the locations of cooking facilities,
water heaters, and central heating units.
15. Double -paned windows shall be installed within the units
facing onto the adjacent arterial highway.
Minutes: H.B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, November 5, 1974
Page 6
16. A 35' setback shall be provided from the living quarters of the
units facing the arterial highway to the nearest travel lane of
that arterial.
17. A soils engineer and/or geologist familiar with local seismic
conditions shall be engaged to indicate the G-factors due to
earth movement for this location.
18. The City shall pursue with applicant an easement for bicycle
access across the natural bluff area, for a bicycle lane to
serve as an intertie with the bicycle lane north of Ellis, which
the City has committed itself to on Tentative Tract 7771.
19. A structural engineer shall be engaged to compile calculations
for footings and structural members of the facility to withstand
these G-factors.
20. The location of the trees to be saved for replanting shall be
shown on final landscape plan for review and approval action
by the, Planning Commission.
ayEsx .:Geiger, Bazil, Higgins, Kerins, Finley, Boyle
NOES: Porter I
ABSENT: None
CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 74-51 - APPEAL
Applicant: Jack Andrus
Appellant: Andrus Development Corporation
This is a request to permit a five (5) foot encroachment into the
rear yard setback in lieu of S.9163.3 of the Huntington Beach
Ordinance Code, located on the north side of Pearce Street approximately
103 feet west of Green Street in an R2 Medium Density Residential
District.
Vugraph and aerial photographs of the property were presented.
Mr. Dave Eadie addressed the Commission and gave a brief background
on the denial of the application by the Board of Zoning Adjustments.
The Chairman opened the public hearing.
Mr. Paul Schumann, Secretary and Treasurer of Andrus Construction
Company, addressed the Commission. He stated that he had on file
letters from all the utility companies indicating that an ease-
ment at the rear of the subject property was not for utility
purposes but was for street purposes only. He discussed what
had transpired between the builders and the Building Department
in the issuance of the permits and the staking of the property.
He stated that they were willing to put in a roadway, but the
adjoining property owners were not agreeable to this.
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Tuesday, November 5, 1974
Page 7
Mr. W. Sterling Buck addressed the Commission and stated that he
was the contractor on the job and that after the building was in
the final stage they were informed that property owners in
adjoining areas had complained about the encroachment.
Mr. Thomas Kardos addressed the Connission and voiced his objections
to the project. He presented photographs to the Commission for
their viewing.
Mr. Clayton Sutters addressed the Commission and stated that he
needed the easement for access since his garage faces on the
easement.
Mr. Lyle Stowle, owner of the property next door, addressed
the Commission and discussed the removal of the water pipe
by the applicant and the subsequent rerouting of it.
Mr. Andrew Acosta stated that he lived north of the easement
and wants to build a garage and won't be able to with the
present encroachment.
The Chairman closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Higgins stated that he felt more graphic
information should have been presented by Staff.
Deputy City Attorney John O'Connor referred Commission to
Section 9832.3, noting that an absence of detriment to property
and improvements in the general vicinity had to be established
as a finding if the Conditional Exception were to be approved.
It was noted that the easement is a private easement between
a number of property owners.
ON MOTION BY BAZIL AND SECOND BY BOYLE CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION
NO. 74-51 APPEAL WAS DENIED, AND THE DECISION OF THE BOARD OF
ZONING ADJUSTMENTS UPHELD, FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS AND BY
THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
1. There are no exceptional or extraordinary circumstances or
conditions applicable to the subject land and structure that
do not apply to all surrounding property in the area.
2. That granting the Conditional Exception would be a sub-
stantial detriment to the public health, welfare, and
safety, and injurious to use of surrounding property in
that the structure encroaches on a private easement which
serves as ingress and egress to the property in the area.
3. There has been no hardship demonstrated in that the top-
ography is level, and the property is not unique. The
need for a Conditional Exception was caused by the negligence
of the applicant or his agents in the construction of the
building.
Minutes: H.B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, November 5, 1974
Page 8
AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Higgins, Kerins, Finley, Boyle, Porter
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
AMENDMENT TO MASTER PLAN OF ARTERIAL STREETS AND HIGHWAYS 74-1
Mr. Ed Selich addressed the Commission and outlined the proposed
amendment.
There was a discussion by Commission on including Talbert and
Gothard alignment into this Amendment. Mr. Selich stated that the
Staff does not have all the environmental impact criteria satisfied
for those other areas in the City, and that it was his feeling that
the Commission had reached a consensus that they would be agreeable
to preparation of subject Amendment to eliminate delays in the
Kendall project.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY GEIGER TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT BUT FAILED
FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY PORTER FOR STAFF TO INCLUDE REVISIONS RELATING
TO TALBERT AND ELLIS PRIOR TO ACTING ON, BUT THE MOTION FAILED FOR
LACK OF A SECOND.
ON MOTION BY KERINS AND SECOND BY PORTER AMENDMENT TO MASTER PLAN
OF ARTERIAL STREETS AND HIGHWAYS 74-1 WAS CONTINUED TO NOVEMBER 19,
1974 BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Bazil, Higgins, Kerins, Finley, Boyle, Porter
NOES: Geiger
ABSENT: None
CODE AMENDMENT NO. 74-18
"ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW TIME LIMIT"
Chairman Kerins opened the public hearing. There being no one
present to speak in favor of or opposition to this Code Amendment,
the public hearing was closed.
Mr. Dave Eadie addressed the Commission and discussed with them
the contents and suggested changes in the 2nd draft.
ON MOTION BY PORTER AND SECOND BY BOYLE CODE AMENDMENT NO. 74-18
WAS APPROVED AS AMENDED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Higgins, Kerins, Finley, Boyle, Porter
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Minutes: H.B. Planning Commission
Ir Tuesday, November 5, 1974
Page 9
MISCELLANEOUS
A draft of a letter of appreciation for members of the
Seismic -Safety Technical Advisory Team was approved by members
of the Commission for preparation and distribution.
COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS
Commissioner Geiger discussed the letter from the Orange County
Transit District and requested staff to submit a transmittal to
OCTD indicating the City's desire for priority on getting a route
on Warner Avenue. Commissioner Porter suggested that the
Transportation Committee meet in the near future to discuss
this further.
Commission discussed the conditioning of tot lots in develop-
ments and it was the consensus that this should be conditioned
on an individual basis with the term "recreational facilities"
substituted for Tot Lots.
Chairman Kerins noted that there would be a public hearing in
Los Angeles on off shore drilling on November 18, 1974.
ON MOTION BY GEIGER AND SECOND BY HIGGINS RESOLUTION NO. 1145
`j WAS ADOPTED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Geiger, Bazil, Higgins, Kerins, Finley, Boyle, Porter
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Commissioner Boyle suggested that it might be well to discuss
at a future study session the problems of enforcement of the
Code and staff was directed to set for discussion on future
agenda.
STAFF'S COMMENTS
Acting Secretary Selich discussed the action of City Council
meeting November 4, 1974.
Mr. Dave Eadie stated that the subdivision . directional; sign
and service station identification sign on the southwest,
corner of Magnolia and Adams were illegal since their approval
had expired. Signal Landmark, the owner, has been notified
by the Building Department of their violation.
Mr. Dave Eadie stated that a letter had been written to
Albertson's regarding the 20 ft. strip of vacant property
with a request that they either pave or landscape the area.
Minutes: H.B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, November 5, 1974
Page 10
Acting Secretary Selich noted that there will be a joint
meeting with City,Council and Planning Commission on November 25,
1974.
ON MOTION BY GEIGER AND SECOND BY HIGGINS THE MEETING ADJOURNED
AT 9:30 P.M. BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE.
Edward D. a ich
Acting Secretary
Edward H. Kerins
Chairman
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