HomeMy WebLinkAbout1976-02-10MINUTES
HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
JOINT ADJOURNED MEETING WITH PROJECT AREA COMMITTEE
Room B-8 (Basement) Civic Center
Huntington Beach, California
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 10, 1976 - 7:00 P.M.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Parkinson, Finley, Slates, Boyle, Kerins, Bazil
Commissioner Shea arrived at 8:50 P.M.
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: None
PROJECT AREA COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT:
Chisholm, Schroeder, Jarrard, Shandrick, Terry, Mulligan, Shea,
Bennet, Coplin, Whaling
PROJECT AREA COMMITTEE MEMBERS ABSENT:
Henrickson, Pasqualino
Chairman Slates introduced Mr. Mel Carpenter, Executive Director,
South Coast Regional Coastal Commission as his guest for the evening.
ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION:
DISCUSSION OF PURPOSE AND ROLE OF PROJECT AREA COMMITTEE
Ed Selich gave a background report on the formation of the Project
Area Committee. He stated that the Redevelopment Project Area was
formed in August, 1975 and the City Council was subsequently required
to form a Project Area Committee. Such a Committee was appointed
by the City Council on December 15, 1975. Presently, the Committee
consists of 12 members, however, the City Council will appoint one
more member.
Mr. Selich stated that this Committee was established for a three year
period after which time it would be reviewed annually by the City Council.
The responsibilities of the Project Area Committee were primarily to
work with the Planning Commission in preparing a Preliminary Redevelop-
ment Plan of the Downtown Area. The,plan would be adopted by the
Planning Commission and sent to the Council for their information only.
Mr. Selich further stated that the City felt it necessary for the
Project Area Committee to review the General Plan Amendment because
it is closely related to the Redevelopment Plan.
Mr. Selich stated that the Project Area Committee held its initial
meeting January 8, 1976 and a meeting each Thursday night for the
month of January with an attendance of 6 or 7 people the first meeting;
20 to 30 people were in attendance the second meeting; and with an
undetermined large group of people in attendance at the third meeting.
-1- PC 2/10/76
N.B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, February 10, 1976
Page 2
The meetings of the Project Area Committee were held to formulate their
recommendations on the General Plan Amendment as well as the
Preliminary Redevelopment Plan.
Mr. Selich stated that people selected for the Project Area
Committee are very familiar with the Downtown area and its
problems.
Chairman Slates stated that the purpose for the joint Study
Session was to clarify discrepancies in recommendations between
the Planning Commission and Project Area Committee.
Mr. Whaling, Chairman of the Project Area Committee, stated the
Committee's concerns on the General Plan Amendment.
Mr. Selich presented a communication from Leonard Wright stating
his concerns with the Redevelopment Area.
In answer to a question raised by Commissioner Boyle, Mr. Selich
stated that the public had been extensively notified of upcoming.
Project Area Committee meetings.
Jerry Shea and Bob Terry, members of the Project Area Committee,
presented the recommendations of the Project Area Committee on
changes to the Land Use Diagram, Figure 6.1.
After each item was presented, staff made their comments and recom-
mendations as follows:
PROJECT AREA COMMITTEE
4b. That the medium density area bound by Fifth Street, Walnut
Avenue, Sixth Street and Orange Avenue (Area No. 5 ) be modified
to reflect commercial along Fifth Street for the following reasons:
1. The majority of the frontage along Fifth Street is presently
used and zoned for commercial.
2. Abutting commercial and residential at an alley provides
a better transition of land uses than residential frontage
on an arterial street with commercial on the other side.
3. Since Fifth Street is a proposed arterial, commercial develop-
ment on both sides would be more appropriate.
4. The commercial designation would be a logical extension of
the commercial area (No. 3) adjacent to Pacific Coast Highway.
k
STAFF
4b. The Planning Staff concurs with this recommendation even though
it provides for an excess of commercial land over what is warranted.
The staff feels that if*the specialty area east 6f:5th Street is
-2- PC 2/10/76
H.B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, February 10, 1976
Page 3
successful, ecomonic pressures will be generated on the west
side of Fifth Street for commercial development.
PROJECT AREA COMMITTEE
4c. That the area of the apartments adjacent to the beach between
Seventh and Sixth Streets (Area No. 20) be designated high
density residential to reflect the existing use for the following
reasons:
1. It would be a logical reflection of a present use that will
exist in the long term.
2. The conversion to condominiums may be jeopardized by an
inappropriate land use designation.
3. The City has found that development consistent with the
General Plan in a letter to the property owner.
4. No public agency is presently considering acquisition of the
property for open space.
STAFF
4c. The staff feels this could go either way. The original staff
recommendation is a graphic representation of City Policy
regarding the beach,whereas the Project Area Committee's
recommendations reflect a condition that will exist throughout
the planning period.
PROJECT AREA COMMITTEE
4e. That the triangle created by the proposed realignment of
Atlanta Avenue be designated general commercial since the
realignment creates a small section of medium density property
and isolates it from a contiguous similar use.
STAFF
4e. Although the triangle is relatively small and it will again
increase commercial acreage beyond the warranted projections,
the staff feels that general commercial would be more compatible
south of the Atlanta realignment.
PROJECT AREA COMMITTEE
4g. That the two medium density areas at the intersection of Beach
Boulevard and Atlanta Avenue (west of Beach, north and south
of Atlanta) be redesignated for high density residential for the
following reasons:
-3- PC 2/10/76
H.B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, February 10, 1976
Page 4
1. It provides more flexibility than the medium density
designation.
2. Flood problems may make low rise medium density develop-
ment more difficult to design than multi story high
density use.
3. This is an excellent alternate location for high rise,,
particularly if high rise cannot be developed in Town -
lot Area No. 5.
4. These are two large and vacant parcels available for
innovative design.
STAFF
4g. The staff feels high density is acceptable since the developer
would still be able to develop it to a low intensity. Staff
disagrees with the Project Area Committee that these areas
would be a good alternative location for residential high rise.
The sites are too far removed from the ocean for economically
sound residential high rise. Although the concept of stepping
heights away from the ocean sounds nice, it is economically
impractical.
PROTECT AREA COMMITTEE
4d. That the Specialty Commercial Designation* be expanded to include
the west side of the pier and around the pier itself for the
following reasons:
1. The majority of the Committee feels that a higher density
of commercial development than proposed may be -desirable
as it leaves the option open.
2. The Coastal Commission may desire a higher use than proposed.
STAFF
4d. The staff does not agree with this recommendation as it con-
flicts with the original staff recommendation that the pier
not be expanded until Main Street is firmly established as a
viable commercial area. The Committee's point that their
recommendation leaves the option open for future expansion is
outweighed, we feel, by a need to indicate on the diagram that
the pier should remain at its present intensity of commercial
use. The option that the Committee is concerned about is
always there as the General'Plan can be amended 3 times per year.
:1
1
-4- PC 2/10/76
H.B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, February 10, 1976
Page 5
PROJECT AREA COMMITTEE
4h. That the high density residential designation on the City
owned property bound by Beach Blvd. and Pacific Coast Highway
be changed to tourist commercial for the following reasons:
1. The property is City owned and the tourist commercial would
allow for greater flexibility.
2. It balances the increased population density resulting from
other Project Area Committee recommendations..
STAFF
4h. Staff accepts the Project Area Committee's recommendation even
though it increases the amount of tourist commercial land beyond
our warranted acreage for the number of tourist commercial
facilities set forth in the modified destination resort
alternatives.
PROJECT AREA COMMITTEE
4f. That the proposed park site designated in the vicinity of
Delaware and Chicago Streets be removed from the plan for
the following reasons:
1. The Committee feels that enough parks exist to service
the area and that the Planning Commission should proceed
with caution in designating additional sites.
2. The Committee feels that adequate information demonstrating
park demand has not been submitted.
STAFF
4f. The staff does not agree with the Project Area Committee
recommendation. An analysis has been performed on park
needs for the area with a resultant reduction from city-
wide standards. Staff feels that both sites should remain
as proposed.
PROJECT AREA COMMITTEE
4a. That the Old Civic Center Site be designated High Density
Residential (mixed use development would allow commercial
on lower levels) and the proposed park designation be removed
for the following reasons:
-5- PC 2/10/76
Minutes: H.B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, February 10, 1976
Page 6
1. Sufficient parks can be provided elsewhere, if needed.
2. Development of the site would act as an anchor and a
catalyst to downtown revitalization.
3. This is a parcel suitable for low and moderate income
housing.
4. The present public uses may not be economically viable in
the long term.
5. The proposed mall will provide a park -like setting in the
Downtown Area with landscape features, benches, fountains,
etc.
6. A reassessment of Citywide park needs must be undertaken.
STAFF
4a. Staff does not agree with the PAC recommendation on the
Civic Center Site and stands behind the original recommendation
for public use. Since further information on cost benefit
alternatives is still being prepared, staff feels that planning
reserve could be an intermediate designation to allow this
issue to be resolved in the final Redevelopment Plan.
Chairman Slates suggested that each item be once again reviewed
and a consensus should be reached between the Project Area
Committee and the Planning Commission. Following are the
results of that discussion:
PAC RECOMMENDATION NO. 4
The Project Area Committee recommends that the land use plan be
modified in accordance with the attached diagram. Specifically,
the PAC recommends the following changes:
4a. PAC RECOMMENDATION
That the Old Civic Center Site be designated High Density
Residential (mixed use development would allow commercial
on lower levels) and the proposed park designation be
removed for the reasons previously stated.
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION
At the night of the meeting, the Planning Commission felt
the site should be designated for public use.
-6- PC 2/10/76
I.
n
I�
Minutes: H.B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, February 10, 1976
Page 7
4b. PAC RECOMMENDATION
That the medium density area bouna by Fifth Street, Walnut
Avenue, Sixth Street and Orange Avenue (Area No. 5) be
modified to reflect commercial along Fifth Street for the
reasons previously stated.
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION
At the night of the meeting, the Planning Commission concurred
with the Project Area Committee.
4c. PAC RECOMMENDATION
That the area of the apartments adjacent to the beach between
Seventh and Sixth Streets (Area No. 20) be designated high
density residential to reflect the existing use for the
reasons previously stated.
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION
At the night of the meeting, the Planning Commission felt it should
remain designated as open space.
4d. PAC RECOMMENDATION
That the Specialty Commercial Designation be expanded to include
the west side of the pier and around the pier itself for the
reasons previously stated.
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION
At the night of the meeting, the Planning Commission concurred
with the Project Area Committee's recommendation.
4e. PAC RECOMMENDATION
That the triangle created by the proposed realignment of Atlanta
Avenue be designated general commercial since the realignment
creates a small section of medium density property and isolates
it from a contiguous similar use.
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION
At the night of the meeting, the Planning Commission concurred
with the Project Area Committee for the area south of Atlanta
Avenue.
4f. PAC RECOMMENDATION
That the proposed park site designated in the vicinity of
Delaware and Chicago Streets be removed from the plan for the
previously stated reasons.
-7.- PC 2/10/76
Minutes: H.B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, February 10, 1976
Page 8
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION
At the night of the meeting, the Planning Commission felt the
proposed park site designation should remain.
4g. PAC RECOMMENDATION
That the two medium density areas at the intersection of Beach
Boulevard and Atlanta Avenue (west of Beach, north and south of
Atlanta) be redesignated for high density residential for the
reasons previously stated.
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION
At the night of the meeting, the Planning Commission felt that
the properties should be medium density.
4h. PAC RECOMMENDATION
That the high density residential designation on the city -owned
property bound by Beach Boulevard and Pacific Coast Highway be
changed to tourist commercial for the previously stated reasons.
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENATION
At the night of the meeting, the Planning Commission concurred
with the Project Area Committee.
The Coastal Commission's role in the Downtown Redevelopment was dis-
cussed.
Mr. Mel Carpenter, Executive Director, South Coast Regional Commission,
stated that the Coastal Commission can only act on the application
upon presentation. Mr. Carpenter suggested that the applicant (City
Staff) study the coastal plan and policies for greater understanding.
Mr. Carpenter offered his services to give the City occasional advice
when needed.
The Project Area Committee adjourned the meeting to their next
regular scheduled meeting of Thursday, February 19, 1976.
PROPOSED AMENDMENT, ARTICLE 968
Mr. Harlow addressed the Commission and presented the proposed
Amendment to Article 968.
Mr. Harlow stated that Staff had met with the Oil Committee to review
the proposed Amendment. He further stated that the Amendment to
Article 968 is proposed, precedent to the rewrite of the Oil Code,
to facilitate oil production within the oil fields by permitting a
sidetrack operation within an existing surface bore hole to facilitate
recompletion in the same production zone.
1
-8- PC 2/10/76-
1
Minutes: H.B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, February 10, 1976
Page 9
Commission discussion ensued.
ON MOTION BY BOYLE AND SECOND BY PARKINSON, PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENT
(ARTICLE 968) WAS SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Parkinson, Bazil, Finley, Slates, Shea, Boyle, Kerins
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS:
Commissioner Parkinson gave a brief report of his recent trip to
San Francisco where he attended the League of California Cities
Planning Commission Institute Meeting.
STAFF'S COMMENTS:
Mr. Harlow presented an invitation extended by the Edison Company
(Mr. Bill Compton) to the Planning Commission for a tour of the
San Onofre Power Plant.
ADJOURNMENT:
ON MOTION BY SLATES AND SECOND BY PARKINSON, MEETING WAS ADJOURNED
AT 9:45 P.M. TO THE FEBRUARY 18, 1976 REGULAR MEETING.
AYES: Parkinson, Bazil, Finley, Slates, Shea, Boyle, Kerins
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
(2 &-
/k-,/
Richard A. Harlow
Secretary
Chairman
am
PC 2/10/76