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MINUTES
HUNTINGTON BEACH REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION/
PLANNING COMMISSION JOINT MEETING
Room B-8 - Civic Center
2000 Main Street
Huntington Beach, California
THURSDAY, AUGUST 11, 1977 - 7:00 PM
PLANNING COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: GIBSON, STERN, NEWMAN, HOFFMAN, SHEA
PLANNING COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: SLATES, FINLEY
REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: PEREZ, GAROFALO, GRANGER,
MILKOVICH
REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: BAZIL
Vice Chairmen Perez and Gibson called the joint meeting to order.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: ON MOTION BY GAROFALO AND SECOND BY MILKOVICH1
MINUTES OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MEETING OF JULY 14, 1977, WERE
APPROVED AS TRANSCRIBED, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Perez, Garofalo, Granger, Milkovich
NOES: None
ABSENT: Bazil
OLD BUSINESS:
WARNER-GOLDENWEST PROJECT STATUS REPORT
Monica Florian informed the joint meeting that the Warner/Goldenwest
Redevelopment Plan ordinance has had its second reading and will become
effective at the end of August. She also reported on the status of
work on participation agreements between the City and two major devel-
opers.
DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION PROGRAM
Monica Florian introduced the Program, identifying proposed projects
and funding sources. She pointed out that, because of the reduced scope
of the area, tax increment financing cannot bear all the costs and the
program will involve a significant financial commitment from the City.
The Commissions are being asked to review and comment on the program and
concur with the concepts, objectives, and actual tasks outlined in that
program.
Secretary Selich noted the two alternative approaches the City can take
in the area: 1) recognize existing ownership patterns in the area and
the fact that the City will be dealing with individual owners on each
parcel, which is the underlying theme that is being presented in this
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program; or 2) adopt the lot consolidation concept, clearing parcels
and aggregating the property for large-scale development. He stated
that in his opinion the two approaches must be mutually exclusive.
Mr. Selich also informed the Commissions that the adoption of this
long-term program would not mean that all the projects would be accom-
plished in the near future, but would permit the City to begin work in
several areas which can be implemented at present without adopting a
redevelopment plan, without use of tax increment financing, and without
exercise of eminent domain - namely, the Main Street project, the Old
Civic Center district development, and development of the pier area.
The Commissions discussed the proposal extensively. Commissioner
Garofalo and Commissioner Stern expressed the opinions that parking is
a fundamental question which should be addressed early in the process
by the Agency. Physical means of providing parking were reviewed,
such as some type of parking structure, use of City -owned land for park-
ing, etc. Financing through a parking authority or an assessment
district was discussed. Joe Milkovich concurred that lack of adequate
parking would mean the failure of a specialty commercial center or
other small commercial use in the area.
Commissioners Stern and Shea questioned whether there might not be
sufficient interest by private developers in the area to make financing
by the private vs. the public sector feasible. Staff informed them of
many prior meetings with interested developers, pointing out that the
interest is indeed there but each developer has asked to know what
the City itself can provide in the way of assembly of developable parcels
of land and design concepts.
Commissioner Gibson said that too much emphasis is placed in the summary
of the program on the commercial uses; he felt that the City should
attempt to improve the basic infrastructure of the area as it presently
exists, improving the quality of living conditions in the downtown area
through the use of capital improvement funds.
The "specialty commercial" designation was considered generally as not
economically feasible, and alternative restaurant, theater, and
entertainment uses proposed. However, some Commissioners felt that such
specialty uses would service a presently unserved market area, with
Commissioner Hoffman expressing the opinion that a mix of specialty com-
mercial, residential, recreational, and small general commercial uses
would best serve the area.
Commissioner Perez pointed out that the aim of the program is to fix
an overall policy and go on to specifics from there, not taking an
incremental approach to the program.
ON MOTION BY GAROFALO AND SECOND BY MILKOVICH THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMIS-
SION ADOPTED THE MAIN STREET REVITALIZATION PROGRAM AS PREPARED BY
STAFF, WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY THAT THE STAFF
BE DIRECTED TO PURSUE A PARALLEL PROGRAM ANALYSIS OF THE AREA FROM A
CONCEPT OF NEW CONSTRCTUION RATHER THAN REHABILITATION, AND THAT SAID
CONCEPT BE ADDRESSED AS RECREATIONAL AND COMMUNITY NEED USES RATHER
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THAN SPECIALTY COMMERCIAL USES (SUCH RECREATIONAL AND COMMUNITY USES
BEING DEFINED AS FOOD AND BEVERAGE SERVICE FACILITIES, ENTERTAINMENT
FACILITIES, AND RELATED USES). SAID ANALYSIS SHOULD INCLUDE ALL RAM-
IFICATIONS OF BOTH CONCEPTS, INCLUDING ALTERNATE FINANCING BY THE
PRIVATE SECTION AND/OR TOTAL LOT CONSOLIDATION BY THE CITY, IF POSSIBLE,
BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Garofalo, Granger, Milkovich
NOES: Perez
ABSENT: Bazil
ON MOTION BY SHEA AND SECOND BY NEWMAN THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPTED
THE MAIN STREET REVITALIZATION PROGRAM WITH THE SAME RECOMMENDATIONS
AND QUALIFICATIONS NOTED ABOVE IN THE PRIOR MOTION BY THE REDEVELOPMENT
COMMISSION, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Gibson, Stern, Newman, Hoffman, Shea
NOES: None
ABSENT: Finley, Slates
TOWNLOT IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM
Monica Florian presented the Townlot Improvement Program,
in more specific form methods to upgrade the area and the
which itemizes
costs in-
volved. She asked the Commissions' guidance
and recommendations, so that
this program or a modification thereof could
be forwarded
to the City
Administrator for consideration and possible
inclusion in
the five-year
Capital Improvements Program presently being
formulated.
Discussion included consideration of low- and medium -income housing in
the area, alternate uses for the existing Senior Citizens Center should
that facility be transferred to the old Civic Center site, street im-
provements, and methods of funding. Concern was expressed by the Com-
missioners in regard to proceeding with the capital improvements portion
of the townlot before a final plan for Project Area I has been formu-
lated; it was also pointed out by Commissioner Gibson that no time has
been allowed for the Commissions to focus on individual items and set
priorities. It was the consensus that other concerned Departments within
the City should be contacted by Planning Staff in regard to this program
prior to Commission action.
ON MOTION BY STERN AND SECOND BY GIBSON THE JOINT COMMISSIONS DIRECTED
STAFF TO PREPARE A PRIORITIZED LIST OF THE ITEMS INCLUDED IN THE TOWN -
LOT IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM (TO BE PREPARED IN CONCERT WITH OTHER INVOLVED
CITY DEPARTMENTS) AND SUBMIT SAID LIST TO THE COMMISSION AT ITS SEPTEM-
BER 8, 1977, MEETING FOR REVIEW PRIOR TO FORWARDING THE TOWNLOT IMPROVE-
MENT PROGRAM TO THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR FOR INCLUSION IN THE CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM. MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Gibson, Stern, Newman, Hoffman, Shea, Perez, Garofalo,
Granger, Milkovich
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates, Finley, Bazil
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NEW BUSINESS:
PIER PROJECT
Secretary Selich presented a memo from Vince Moorhouse, Director of
Harbors and Beaches, in regard to a policy for development of the pier.
The proposed plan would call for a master lessee who would then be
responsible for development and subleasing. The Commissions are being
asked to review and concur that this would be an acceptable approach
to transmit through the City'Administrator to the City Council for
authorization to solicit proposals from interested developers.
The proposal was discussed by the Commissioners in relation to how such
a policy would tie into the Main Street project and how the City could
be assured that such a project would be compatible with the total plans
for the downtown area. Legal status of existing leases on the pier was
also questioned; Mark Travis reported that the present tenants have
franchises for three-year terms.
It was the consensus that preparation of the project should be left to
the discretion of Mr. Moorhouse, but that staff should be directed to
pursue the project to assure compatibility of the proposals.
ON MOTION BY GRANGER AND SECOND BY GAROFALO THE JOINT COMMISSIONS
ACCEPTED THE RECOMMENDATION AS SUBMITTED, REQUESTING THAT MR. MOORHOUSE
PREPARE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE COMMISSION'S
NEXT MEETING FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL PRIOR TO SUBMITTAL TO THE CITY AD-
MINISTRATOR. MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Gibson, Stern, Newman, Hoffman, Shea, Perez, Garofalo,
Granger, Milkovich
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates, Finley, Bazil
Commissioner Shea left the meeting at 9:27 p.m.
OLD CIVIC CENTER SITE ALTERNATIVES
Secretary Selich presented three alternatives for provision of senior
citizen housing on the Old Civic Center Site, prepared in the form of
requests for proposals to interested developers and basically contain-
ing provisions for three levels of development intensity. He explained
the Department's reasons for preparation of the project and requested
that the joint Commissions consider the proposals in light of project
suitability to the site, timing of the development, and which level of
intensity would be most desirable.
Commission discussion followed. Commissioner Hoffman indicated that
if the project is compatible to the plans of the City and the expressed
wishes of senior citizens he would consider that the site was suitable
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and would favor directing Staff to proceed. Commissioner Perez, on
the other hand, felt that the site was probably not suitable, citing
conflicts of the elderly people with the generally youthful population
in the downtown area, distance from shopping, medical, and other fac-
ilities, and the influence such use would have on the pattern of
development in the downtown area. He noted that if the plan is adopted
it would be his preference to provide the maximum number of units and
the maximum space for service facilities, noting that he would not be
in favor of a plan which -would retain the library.
Commissioner noted that he would be in favor of sending out the requests
for proposal, but that a fourth concept should be added, perhaps as
"none of the above," requesting that a developer submit his own proposal
for whatever project he might feel would be more advantageous to both
himself and the City.
Commissioner Stern objected to the high density proposal and high-rise
on the site and indicated his preference for retaining the library.
Commissioner Granger also indicated that he would want to adopt the
moderate density if the plan were to be approved.
Commissioner Newman questioned what would happen to the present uses now
on the site. She said that her preference would be for the highest
density level, incorporating as many public service facilities as
possible with relocation of existing uses to another appropriate site.
Commissioner Garofalo spoke in favor of the project, saying that it
would be the only realistic major project that could serve as a catalyst
for other downtown development and is the most appropriate use for the
land.
Alternative approaches were discussed by Commissioner Gibson, including
use as parking, long-term leasing, or outright sale of the property by
the City with the funds to be used in other locations.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY GAROFALO AND SECONDED BY NEWMAN THAT THE JOINT
COMMISSION TRANSMIT A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THE OLD
CIVIC CENTER SITE BE CONSIDERED A SUITABLE LOCATION FOR SENIOR CITIZEN
HOUSING: AND THAT STAFF SHALL BE DIRECTED TO PROCEED IN SOLICITING
DEVELOPMENTAL PROPOSALS PRIOR TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE REDEVELOPMENT
PLAN; AND THAT SAID PROPOSALS INCLUDE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE
LAND, INCORPORATING AS MANY FACILITIES AS POSSIBLE INTO THE STRUCTURES.
Discussion followed.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY STERN TO AMEND THE MOTION TO RESTRICT THE CON-
STRUCTION ON THE SITE TO NO MORE THAN FIVE STORIES. MOTION FAILED FOR
LACK OF A SECOND.
Discussion of the possible height limitations followed, considering the
history of high-rise proposals in the area. Mr.'Garofalo noted that in
the light of past actions he felt any proposal higher than ten stories
would not be feasible. Secretary Selich suggested that the key could
be compatibility with the surrounding area.
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WITH CONCURRENCE OF GAROFALO AND NEWMAN THEIR ORIGINAL MOTION WAS AMENDED
TO -ADD: . . BUT THAT THE ULTIMATE PROJECT BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SUR-
ROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD." AMENDED MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE OF
THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION:
AYES: Granger, Milkovich,Garofalo
NOES: Perez
ABSENT: Bazil
AMENDED MOTION FAILED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION:
AYES: Newman, Hoffman
NOES: Stern, Gibson
ABSENT: Slates, Finley, Shea
Following action on the motion, Commissioner Gibson requested that
Staff incorporate some of the considerations discussed at this meeting
into the transmittal to the City Council, both in favor of and against
the project.
FORMATION OF DOWNTOWN PROJECT AREA COMMITTEE
Monica Florian informed the Commissions of the requirements of the Rede-
velopment Law in regard to the formation of a Project Area Committee
and requested them to submit names of any residents of the area who they
felt would be particularly qualified and interested in serving on such
a committee. She emphasized that the committee must be formed by
August 20, 1977.
RESOLUTION FOR RON CONTRERAS
Staff presented a Resolution of Appreciation to Ron Contreras for his
service with the Redevelopment Commission.
ON MOTION BY MILKOVICH AND SECOND BY GRANGER THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMIS-
SION ADOPTED RESOLUTION NO. 8 IN COM14ENDATION OF RON CONTRERAS, BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYYES: Granger, Milkovich, Garofalo, Perez
NOES: None
ABSENT: Bazil
MISCELLANEOUS:
Commissioner Milkovich requested that the Commissioners be supplied with
a copy of the referenced "Redevelopment Data Overview" mentioned in the
letter from the office of Joe Coomes and also a copy of the newly enacted
California Redevelopment Law.
ON MOTION BY GRANGER AND SECOND BY MILKOVICH THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMIS-
SION ADJOURNED TO THE MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 8, 1977, BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
AYES: Granger, Milkovich, Garofalo, Perez
NOES: None
ABSENT: Bazil
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WARNER AVENUE SEWER LINE
The Planning Commission reviewed the Staff's analysis and recommenda-
tion on the Warner Avenue sewer line.
ON MOTION BY NEWMAN AND SECOND BY HOFFMAN THE COMMISSION FOUND THAT THE
PROPOSED SANITARY SEWER LINE ALONG WARNER AVENUE FROM SPRINGDALE STREET
TO 800 FEET WEST OF GRAHAM STREET IS IN CONFORMITY WITH THE GENERAL
PLAN OF THE CITY OF HUNTINGTON BEACH, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Gibson, Stern, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates, Finley, Shea
ATLANTA AVENUE ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENTS
Secretary Selich outlined for the Commission's information the history
of the existing condition of precise plans for Atlanta Avenue and the
reasons for requesting that an alternative plan be processed at this
time. Commission is being asked to recommend to Staff which of the
alternatives under consideration should be pursued in its preparation
of the final plan.
Commissioner Stern inquired whether the proposed developer who has re-
quested this alignment change has any connection with Mariners Savings
and Loan, stating that in such event he would have to disqualify him-
self from participation in this matter. It was the determination of
Mark Travis that, since the matter before the Commission is only to set
a precise plan for public hearing, a majority of quorum is all that is
required and discussion and action can proceed without Mr. Stern's vote.
Rich Barnard gave a Vu-Graph presentation of the four alternative plans
which had been submitted to the Commission as well as a fifth which was
subsequently prepared by Staff. Mr. Barnard stated that Alternatives
1 or 2 would be best for obtaining optimum circulation for east -west
traffic and crosstown connections. Ed Selich pointed out that in all
traffic studies for the downtown area with any intensity of development
the recommendation has always been for a smooth flow of traffic between
Atlanta and Orange Avenues (which 1 and 2 would provide) and that this
traffic flow must be weighed against the lesser cost of other alterna-
tives.
Commissioner Newman, noting that Alternative 5 is less costly than the
other plans, suggested that it might be more acceptable if Lake Street
is made a major arteriAl, with which Staff agreed.
ON MOTION BY HOFF14AN AND SECOND BY NEWMAN THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOM-
MENDED ADOPTION OF ALTERNATIVE PLAN 5 FOR THE PRECISE PLAN OF ALIGNMENT
OF ATLANTA AVENUE, AND DIRECTED STAFF TO SET A PUBLIC HEARING FOR
RESCINDING THE EXISTING PRECISE PLAN FOR THAT STREET, BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
AYES: Gibson, Hoffman, Newman
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates, Finley, Shea
ABSTAIN: Stern
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ON MOTION BY HOFFMAN AND SECOND BY NEWMAN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AD-
JOURNED TO THE MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 7, 1977, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Gibson, Hoffman, Newman, Stern
NOES: None
ABSENT: Slates, Finley, Shea
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Edward D. Selic
Secretary - Planning Commission
Redevelopment Com-
mission
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Charles Gibso , hairman Pro Tempore
Planning Commission
Manny Perez, Chairman Pro Tempore
Redevelopment Commission