HomeMy WebLinkAbout1977-09-29APPROVED 10/18/77
MINUTES
HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
Council Chambers, Civic Center
Huntington Beach, California
THHUURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 29, 1977 - 7 P.M.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Stern, Finley, Gibson, Slates, Newman, Hoffman
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Shea
NOTE: A TAPE RECORDING OF THIS MEETING IS ON FILE IN THE PLANNING
DEPARTMENT OFFICE
SCHEDULED ITEMS:
GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 77-2 - PART 3
12. Gothard Street, south of Ellis Avenue
Applicant: Planning Department
This is a request to change 79.61 acres from industrial and office
professional to estate and low density residential designation.
Chairman Slates stated that while he would still conduct the
meeting on Items 12. and 13. he would not be voting on them.
The public hearing was opened.
George Chelius addressed the Commission and spoke in favor of
continuing the use as industrial and office professional.
Carl Hillquist, representing Southern Pacific Railroad, addressed
the Commission and spoke on the need for rail service to this area.
Bruce Greer addressed the Commission and stated that he did not
see how any benefit would be derived from changing the designation
to estate and low density residential.
Mel Mermenstein, Ideal Pallett Company, spoke in behalf of the _
railroadstating that he used its services and that others
also used the rail services. He stated that his business would be
seriously hampered if the rail service was discontinued or impaired.
George Chelius again addressed the Commission and discussed the
meeting with the Planning Staff and the formation of an industrial
league within the Gothard corrdidor. The purpose of this league
would be to attract better industry and upgrade the appearance of
the area.
Mark Porter, representing the Home Council, addressed the Commission
and stated that this area represents the largest single parcel of
industrial property in the City. He felt it was a poor area for
residential and better suited to industrial. He further stated that
redesignation to industrial uses would force businesses to become
non -conforming.
Minutes: H,B, Planning Commission
Thursday, September 29, 1977
Page 2
A citizen representing a music company in the area addressed the
Commission and spoke on the shortage of industrial land in Orange
County.
Jack Wallace, Huntington Beach Company, stated that he felt the
southern half of this area where it connects with Main Street
was more residential •0roffice-prof essional oriented than industrial.
He further stated that the topography of the northern portion -is more
oriented toward residential.
James Thompson, representing some industrial lumber yard facilities,
addressed the Commission and discussed the meeting with the Planning
staff. He further discussed the tax benefits to be derived from
industrial use.
Commissioner Newman discussed the need for heavy landscaping in
the area if it remained industrial.
ON MOTION BY GIBSON AND SECOND BY FINLEY THE COMMISSION DISAPPROVED
THE REQUEST FOR ESTATE AND LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FOR THE 79.61
ACRE AREA ON GOTHARD STREET SOUTH ELLIS AVENUE BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Stern, Finley, Gibson, Newman
NOES: Hoffman
ABSTAIN: Slates
ABSENT: Shea
13. North of Main Street and west of Huntington Street
Applicant: Planning Department
This is a request to change 4.84 acres from industrial to medium
density residential.
No one was present to speak on this request for a change of desig-
nation.
A -MOTION WAS MADE BY NEWMAN AND SECONDED BY HOFFMAN TO CHANGE THE
DESIGNATION FROM INDUSTRIAL TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ON 4.84
ACRES LOCATED NORTH OF MAIN STREET AND WEST OF HUNTINGTON STREET.
AYES:
Gibson, Newman, Hoffman
NOES:
Stern, Finley
ABSTAIN:
Slates
ABSENT:
Shea
The motion failed and the land will remain industrial.
EDISON AREA
14. A request for a change from industrial to planning reserve on
25.82 acres by the Planning staff. This area is north of
Hamilton and west of Newland Street.
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Minutes; H.B. Planning Commission
Thursday, September 29, 1977
Page 3
15. A request for a change from industrial to planning reserve on
16.55 acres by the Planning staff. This area is located south
of Hamilton Avenue and west of Newland Street.
16. A request for a change from industrial to planning reserve on
4.82 acres by the Planning staff. This area is located south of
the Orange County Flood Control District D1-2 west of Newland
Street.
There was no one present to speak on these areas.
Commission discussion ensued.
ON MOTION BY NEWMAN AND SECOND BY HOFFMAN AREAS 14, 15, AND 16 WERE
APPROVED FOR PLANNING RESERVE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE STAFF BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Stern, Finley, Gibson, Newman, Hoffman, Slates
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Sea'
17. A request for a.change from industrial to planning reserve on
47.16 acres by the Planning staff. The area is located south
of Hamilton Avenue and west of Magnolia Street.
The public hearing was opened.
Randy Blanchard addressed the Commission and spoke on the westerly
7 acres next to the rotary mud dump. He stated that putting it in
a planning reserve designation would place the property in a holding
zone which would create a hardship.
Marie Buckland addressed the Commission and spoke on the mud dump.
She ascertained from the staff that if the mud dump was presently
closed it would remain closed under a planning reserve designation.
Mark Porter addressed the Commission and stated that he felt the
westerly 7 acres which Randy Blanchard had spoken on should be
designated industrial.
The public hearing was closed.
Commission discussion ensued.
ON MOTION BY SLATES AND SECOND BY FINLEY THE WESTERLY 7 ACRES (KNOWN
AS THE RANDY BLANCHARD PROPERTY) WAS APPROVED TO REMAIN INDUSTRIAL
WITH THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY TO BE DESIGNATED AS PLANNING
RESERVE BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Stern, Finley, ribsonf Slates, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: None
ABSENT: Shea
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Minutes; H.B. Planning Commission
Thursday, September 29, 1977
Page 4
GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 77-2 - PART 2
Area 2.2 - A request to change designation on 17.17 acres located
on Nichols Street, south of Slater Avenue from industrial to medium
density residential.
Applicant: Family -Home Builders, Inc,
ON MOTION BY NEWMAN AND SECOND BY FINLEY THE REQUEST TO REDESIGNATE
17.17 ACRES LOCATED ON NICHOLS STREET SOUTH OF SLATER AVENUE FROM
INDUSTRIAL TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WAS DISAPPROVED BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Stern, Finley, Gibson, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Slates
ABSENT: Shea
GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 77-2 - PART 3
Areas 2, 3, 4, 6, and 9,.-as reflected in viewgra h as presented in public
neari:19, were approved by straw vote -at 9/20 meeting for redesignation
from industrial to commercial, low density residential, public, quasi -
public, institutional•, and resource production. -
It was the staff's recommendation that if the Planning Commission
maintains the other industrial areas that the five changes cited
above also be'maintained in their current industrial designations
so that the integrity of the Gothard Corridor can be fully pre-
served.
UPON STAFF RECOMMENDATION NEWMAN MOVED AND STERN SECONDED TO REVERSE .
THEIR PREVIOUP STRAW VOTE AND RETAIN THE ABOVE AREAS AS INDUSTRIAL
DESIGNATION BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Stern, Finley, Gibson, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Slates
ABSENT: Shea
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT NO. 77-10
A MOTION WAS MADE BY SLATES AND SECONDED BY NEWMAN TO APPROVE EIR 77-10.
Monica Florian pointed out that changes had been suggested to the
EIR concerning the park fee.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY GIBSON TO APPROVE EIR 77-10 WITH CHANGES
ON PARK FEES.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY FINLEY AND SECONDED BY STERN TO CONTINUE EIR 77
TO ANOTHER MEETING.
Gibson withdrew his motion.
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Minutes: H.B. Planning Commission
j Thursday, September 29, 1977
Page 5
VOTE ON FINLEY'S MOTION TO CONTINUE TO ANOTHER MEETING:
AYES: Finley, Stern
NOES: Gibson, Newman, Hoffman
ABSTAIN: Slates
ABSENT: Shea
THE MOTION FAILED.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY GIDSOit AND SECONDED BY HDFFMAN TO APPROVE EIR 77-10
AS'AMENDED BY ADDENU M NO. 2.
AYES: Gibson, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: Finley, Stern
ABSTAIN:, Slates
ABSENT: Shea
THE MOTION FAILED.
ON MOTION BY FINLEY AND SECOND BY STERN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT
REPORT NO. 77-10 AND GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 77-2, PART 1, WERE
CONTINUED TO THE THIRD AMENDMENT TO THE GENERAL PLAN HEARING BY
THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Stern, Finley, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: Gibson
ABSTAIN: Slates
ABSENT: Shea
NEGATIVE DECLARATION 77-94
ON MOTION BY NEWMAN AND SECOND BY GIBSON NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 77-94
WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Stern, Finley, Gibson, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Slates
ABSENT: Shea
NEGATIVE DECLARATION 77-95
ON MOTION BY NEWMAN AND SECOND,BY GIBSON NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 77-95
WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Stern, Finley, Gibson, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Slates .
ABSENT: Shea
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT 77-08
ON MOTION BY GIBSON AND SECOND BY FINLEY ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT
77-08 WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Stern, Finley, Gibson, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Slates
ABSENT: Shea
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Minutes: H.B. Planning Commission
Thursday{ September 29, 1977
Page 6
ON MOTION BY NEWMAN AND SECOND BY STERN, THE COMMISSION REAFFIRMED
ITS VOTE ON GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 77-2, PART 3, BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
AYES: Stern, Finley, Gibson, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Slates
ABSENT: Shea
RESOLUTION NO. 1202
ON MOTION BY STERN AND SECOND BY FINLEY RESOLUTION NO. 1202 WAS
ADOPTED AS AMENDED TO EXCLUDE PART 1 BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Stern, Finley, Gibson, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Slates
ABSENT: Shea
The Chairman called a five minute recess at 8:20 p.m.
AMENDMENT TO THE TAYLOR AND BEACH SPECIFIC PLAN
The intent of this amendment is to update the Specific Plan and
bring it in conformity with the General Plan. It covers 80 acres
at the southwest corner of Beach and Talbert with the railroad as
west boundary and Taylor Drive as south boundary.
Chairman Slates stated that while public testimony would be taken
no action to this amendment would be taken until final processing
of environmental documents is complete which will be the October 4
meeting.
Monica Florian addressed the Commission and gave a brief background
report on this plan. She discussed Alternative 2 contained in the
staff report as well as a third alternative which had been acceptable
to both the Planning staff and the Traffic Engineer,
The public hearing was opened.
George Chelius-addressed the Commission and stated that he would
like to see a buffer between industrial and residential uses.
Roselle Sommer addressed the Commission and stated that she felt the
third alternative would result in splitting the area in half.
Ron Russell, President of Five Points Homeowners Association,
spoke against the creation of a "T" intersection, stating that
80% of the people will use such an intersection to go in and out
of the tract.
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Thursday, September 29, 1977
Page 7
John Mandrell, Engineer for Foxx Development, stated that it would
appear that a north/south street would simply reroute traffic
and possibly even increase it and put it right next to the park.
Lee Collins addressed the Commission and suggested that a street
go directly from Talbert south to Taylor in a straight line.
Elinor Mattson expressed concern about having a street right next to
the park.
James Thompson discussed the problems with residential property next
to industrial with no buffer zones between.
George Chelius stated that the Planning Commission can approve a
natural buffer by approving the street to go straight through to
Talbert.
Paul Heartquist addressed the Commission and spoke against the
creation of a,busy intersection right next to the park.
Ron Russell -again addressed the Commission and suggested its
careful consideration of ingress and egress into and out of this
tract, especially insofar as industrial and commercial traffic are
concerned.
Commission discussion followed.
ON MOTION BY NEWMAN AND SECOND BY GIBSON THE PUBLIC HEARING ON
AMENDMENT TO THE TAYLOR AND BEACH SPECIFIC PLAN WAS CONTINUED TO
OCTOBER 4, 1977 BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Stern, Finley, Gibson, Slates, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: None
ABSENT: Shea
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 77-14/NEGATIVE DECLARATION 77-83
Applicant: Foxx Development Corporation
This is a request for a 61 lot subdivision located on the north
side of Taylor 660 -ft. west of Beach.
Chairman Slates noted that the staff asked for a continuance on
this application to allow completion of the environmental
documents as well as -to allow the applicant an opportunity to
review several design revisions recently suggested by the staff.
ON MOTION BY NEWMAN AND SECOND BY HOFFMAN CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
NO. 77-14 AND NEGATIVE DECLARATION 77-83 WERE CONTINUED TO OCTOBER 18,
1977 BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Stern,
NOES: None
ABSENT: Shea
Finley, Gibson, Slates, Newman, Hoffman
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Minutest H.B. Plagning Commission
Thursday, September 29, 1977
Page 8
TENTATIVE TRACT 9925/NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 77-91
Applicant: Parkside Development
This is a request for a 9 lot subdivision located on the west side
of Lynn Street 185 ft. north of Los Patos.
Commissioner Stern requested that the staff explore methods within
the Map Act for reimbursement on street improvements.
Dan Armstrong addressed the Commission and stated that he had
read the conditions and had no objections to them.
Chairman Slates directed the staff to report back on Commissioner
Stern's request concerning reimbursement for street improvements.
ON MOTION BY NEWMAN AND SECOND BY FINLEY NEGATIVE DECLARATION 77-91
WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Stern, Finley, Gibson, Slates „Newman, Hoffman
NOES: None
ABSENT: - Shea
ON MOTION BY NEWMAN AND SECOND BY FINLEY TENTATIVE TRACT 9925 WAS
APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS AND FINDINGS BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
FINDINGS:
1.. The proposed subdivision of this 1.6+ acre parcel of land
zoned R-1 (which allows 6.5 units per gross acre) is proposed to
be constructed having only5.4units per gross acre.
2. The General Plan has set forth provisions for this type of
land use as well as setting forth objectives for implementation
for this type of housing.
3. The property was previously studied for this intensity of land
use at the time the land use designation for Low Density residential
was placed on said property.
4. The lot size, depth, frontage, street widths, and all other design
and improvements features of the proposed subdivision are proposed
to be constructed in compliance with standard plans and speci-
fications on file with the City, as well as in compliance with
the State Map Act and supplementary City Subdivision Ordinance.
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Thursday, September 29, 1977
Page 13
3. Approval of the exception would be the granting of a special
privilege as similar proposals on similar sites have in the
past been required to modify physical improvements in order to
gain alley access.
4. In view of the substantial building improvements proposed it
would not be unreasonable to require modification to existing
improvements to gain compliance with the ordinance.
AYES: Stern, Gibson, Slates, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: None
ABSENT: Finley, Shea
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 77-18/NEGATIVE DECLARATION 77-97
Applicant: Max W. Cobb
This is a request to establish a tennis/racquetball facility at
16214 Pacific Coast Highway on the northeast side of Pacific Coast
Highway, 137 feet south of Mariner Drive.
John Cope stated that he had no information to add to that contained
in the staff report.
There was a discussion on parking.
The public hearing was opened.
Max W. Cobb, applicant, addressed the Commission and spoke in favor
of the project.
The public hearing was closed.
ON MOTION BY NEWMAN AND SECOND BY STERN NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 77-97
WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Stern, Gibson, Slates, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: None
ABSENT: Finley, Shea
ON MOTION BY NEWMAN AND SECOND BY STERN CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
NO. 77-18 WAS APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS
OF APPROVAL BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
FINDINGS:
1. The proposed plan is in substantial compliance with the Huntington
Beach Ordinance Code.
2. The proposed use will be compatible with surrounding commercial
and residential uses.
3. The proposed use will improve traffic and circulation on Pacific --
Coast Highway by the consolidation of driveway access points.
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Minutes; H.B. Planning Commission
Thursday, September 29, 1977
Page 14
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL:
1. The site plan dated September 14, 1977 shall be the approved
layo
2. Prior to the issuance of building permits, building elevations
indicating colors and materials shall be submitted to the Planning
Department for review and approval.
3. A parcel map providing for the elimination of all interior property
lines shall be recorded with the County Recorder's office prior
to occupancy of the use.
4. Signing of the proposed use shall be limited to the following:
a. One (1) freestanding sign with a maximum height of six (6)
feet and a maximum area of thirty-two square feet per sign
face shall be permitted.
b. One (1) wall sign with a maximum area of forty (40) square
feet shall be permitted.
5. A six (6) foot high decorative masonry wall shall be provided on
the easterly and westerly property lines up to the thirty (30)
foot front yard setback line. 'The design and materials of said
wall shall be subject to approval by the Planning Department.
6. Outside public address or amplification system shall be prohibite
7. All building spoils, such as unusable lumber. wire, pipe, and
other surplus or unusable material shall be disposed of at an
offsite facility equipped to handle them.
8. The structures on subject property, whether attached or detached,
shall be constructed in compliance with the State Acoustical
Standards set forth for all.units that lie within the 60 CNEL
contours of the property.
9. Use of energy -saving lighting, such as high pressure sodium vapor
lamps, should be considered in parking lots and recreation areas.
10. Low -volume heads shall be used on all spigots and water faucets.
11. All holding tanks for restroom facilities shall be equipped for a
capacity of 3.5 gallons if such facilities are available at the
time of construction.
AYES: Stern, Gibson, Slates, Newmant Hoffman
NOES: None
ABSENT: Shea, Finley
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Thu3's4ay, September 29, 1977
Page -15
PRECISE PLAN OF STREET ALIGNMENT 77-6/NEGATIVE DECLARATION 77-104
Applicant: Initiated by Planning Department
This is a proposal to align a 20 foot alley between Alabama Street
and Huntington Street, approximately 180 feet from the centerline
of Adams Avenue.
The public hearing was opened. There being no one present to speak
on the item, the public hearing was closed.
Commission discussion ensued.
ON MOTION BY NEWMAN AND SECOND BY GIBSON NEGATIVE DECLARATION 77-104
WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Stern, Gibson, Slates, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: None
ABSENT: Finley, Shea
ON MOTION BY NEWMAN AND SECOND BY GIBSON PRECISE PLAN OF STREET
ALIGNMENT 77-6 WAS APPROVED BY RESOLUTION NO. 1205, A RESOLUTION
OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF HUNTINGTON BEACH, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF PRECISE PLAN OF STREET ALIGNMENT NO. 77-6
WHICH WILL PROVIDE FOR A TWENTY (20) FOOT ALLEY BETWEEN ALABAMA AVENUE
AND HUNTINGTON STREET SOUTH OF ADAMS AVENUE BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Stern, Gibson, Slates, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: None ..,
ABSENT: Finley, Shea
REVOCATION OF PRECISE PLAN OF STREET ALIGNMENT 70-4
(ATLANTA/LAKE STREETS)
This is a proposed revocation of Precise Plan of Street Alignment
70-4 and proposed alternatives for a Precise Plan of Street Align-
ment for Atlanta Avenue and Lake Street.
The public hearing was opened.
Gordon Offstein addressed the Commission and inquired how many
low income citizens would become dislocated. Chairman Slates
stated that no one will be relocated if the revocation was approved.
The public hearing was closed.
Commission discussion ensued.
ON MOTION BY NEWMAN AND SECOND BY HOFFMAN THE COMMISSION APPROVED
REVOCATION OF PRECISE PLAN OF STREET ALIGNMENT 70-4 AND STAFF WAS
DIRECTED TO PURSUE ALTERNATIVES 4 AND 5 BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Stern, Gibson, Slates, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: None
ABSENT: Finley, Shea
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Minutes: H.B. Planning Commission
Thursday, September 29, 1977
Page 16
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
Gordon Offstein addressed the Commission and spoke on the need for
improvement on sections of Gothard Street, stating that in some
areas the street is not wide enough for four lanes of traffic.
Chairman Slates asked Ralph Leyva to check into the area south of
Warner to Ellis.
COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS:
None
STAFF'S COMMENTS:
None
ADJOURNMENT:.
The meeting adjourned at 10:20 p.m.
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Secretary
R er Slates
Chairma
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