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HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
Countil Chambers, Civic Center
Huntington Beach, California
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 1, 1977 - 7 P.M.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Stern, Finley, Gibson, Slates, Shea, Newman,
Hoffman
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: None
NOTE: A TAPE RECORDING OF THIS MEETING IS ON FILE IN THE PLANNING
DEPARTMENT OFFICE.
CONSENT CALENDAR:
MINUTES - OCTOBER 4, 1977 AND OCTOBER 11, 1977
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 10062: CONFORMANCE WITH GENERAL PLAN
ON MOTION BY SHEA AND SECOND BY NEWMAN THE CONSENT CALENDAR WAS
APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Stern, Finley, Gibson, Slates, Shea, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
SCHEDULED ITEMS:
Chairman Slates stated that he would be abstaining on the first item
on the Agenda and turned the chair over to Vice -Chairman Shea.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 77-14/NEGATIVE DECLARATION 77-83
Applicant: Foxx Development Corporation
IN CONJUNCTION WITH
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 8197
Subdivider: Foxx Development Corporation
This is a request for a 61 residential unit project located on the
north side of Taylor•660-feet west of Beach.
John Cope stated that he had no information to add to that contained
in the staff report.'
The public hearing was opened on Conditional Use Permit No. 77-14 and
Negative Declaration 77-83. '
Jim Foxx addressed the Commission and stated that he had his engineer
and architect to answer questions. He then introduced John Mandrell,
engineer.
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John Mandrell addressed the problems encountered in the project and
the delays which had occurred.
Clark Forest Butts, architect, addressed the Commission and discussed
the architectural aspects of the project, stating that the units are
basically patio -oriented. He discussed the open space.
Robert: -Mitchell, landscape architect, addressed the Commission
primarily on the features of the block wall.
Jim Foxx again addressed the Commission with a discussion on setback
requirements and landscaping.
The public hearing was closed
Commissioner Finley stated that she felt there were problems with
the project in addition to those listed in the staff report. She was
concerned that the Subdivision Committee did not look at the project
in terms of adjoining industrial zoning. She felt that the parking
proposed was inadquate and would adversely effect the circulation.
Commissioner Hoffman stated that he felt it should be referred back
to the staff.
Commissioner Stern stated that he felt an attempt should be made to
place conditions on the northwest boundary to provide a buffer.
Vice -Chairman Shea stated that she'felt this planned development
ranked high and could stand on its own merits. She was in favor of
the project as proposed.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY HOFFMAN AND SECONDED BY NEWMAN TO REFER TENTATIVE
TRACT 8197/NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 77-83, AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
NO. 77-14 BACK TO THE STAFF TO CHANGE THE CONCEPT AND BUFFERING.
Secretary Selich stated that a major point of disagreement is getting
some type of adequate separation and common open space on the northwest
portion of the property where it joins the industrial property.
Commissioner Stern asked for the concurrence of Mr. Foxx on continuing
all three items in an effort to work out problems.
Jim Foxx stated that he did not concur with a continuance based on
working with staff trying to get open space in the northwest portion of the propert,. He
felt there were minor differences which could be worked out with present
concept. He requested a decision on 30 foot buffer and open space
in concept. He stated that he was looking for Commission approval
on concept of open space and buffering and that he would work with staff
on details for conditions of approval.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY GIBSON TO APPROVE THE PLAN IN CONCEPT.
THE MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND. . i
COMMISSIONER HOFFMAN WITHDREW HIS MOTION BASED ON THE FACT THAT
THE SUBDIVIDER DID NUT CONCUR WITH A CONTINUANCE TO WORD [tiITH
STAFF IN CHANGING THE CONCEPT AND OPEN SPACE AND BUFFERING.
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ON MOTION BY HOFFMAN AND SECOND BY FINLEY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
NO. 77-14 WAS DENIED WITH THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
The staff recommends denial of Conditional Use Permit No. 77-14 and
Tentative Tract No. 8197 based on the following findings:
1. The site layout and design of the proposed residential use does
not properly adapt the residential structures to the future
adjacent industrial uses to the west.
2. The location of many of the residential units within very close
proximity of the adjacent industrial properties poses a strong
likelihood of a detrimental effect upon the health, safety, and
convenience of the residents that will reside in those units.
3. The design of the proposed subdivision is such that it is not
consistent with the intent of the provisions of the Taylor/Beach
Specific Plan which encourages the maximization of buffering in-
compatible land uses through the design flexibility of a planned
residential development
4. Parking for units 1-4, and 38-43, is such, that because of the
numerous short driveways, the unit to unit orientation is un-
desirable and will have -an adverse effect on the circulation for
the project since access to the entire site must pass in front
of these units.
5. The minimum rear yard setbacks for to}s 39, 40, 41, 43, 1, and 2
are in violation of the development standards for a Planned
Residential Development.
6. The project's design and layout has not taken advantage design
flexibility, i.e., setbacks, unit placement, open space orientation,
etc., that would have promoted a desirable living environment.
With units adjacent to the industrial zoning, the project's design
has not reduced noise transmission or mitigated visual intrusion
of the industrial onto the residential units.
AYES: Stern, Finley, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: Gibson, Shea
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Slates
Commission discussion ensued.
ON MOTION BY NEWMAN AND SECOND BY GIBSON NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 77-83
WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Gibson, Shea, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: Stern, Finley
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Slates
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There was a discussion on the order of the voting. Deputy City Attorn
Travis stated that even though the vote on Conditional Use Permit
No. 77-14 was taken out of order it still stood.
The Vice Chairman called a five minute recess at 8:20 p.m.
The meeting reconvened at 8:30
ON MOTION BY STERN AND SECOND BY SHEA THE COMMISSION AGREED TO
RECONSIDER APPLICATIONS FOR TENTATIVE TRACT 8197 AND,CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT 77-14, AND'NEGATIVE DECLARfi TION 77-83 BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Stern, Finley, Gibson, Shea, Hoffman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Slates, Newman
Commissioner Hoffman stated that he made the motion to refer the
project back to the staff providing the concurrence of the developer
was obtained and the developer stated that he did not want to do that.
Commissioner Hoffman stated that he assumed that the developer thought
it would be approved and therefore would avoid further discussion
with the staff. For that reason he stated that he would not vote
for continuance. `
Commissioner Stern stated that the property was in a rundown condition
condition and would like to see it improved as soon as possible.
ON MOTION BY STERN AND SECOND BY SHEA CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 77-14,
TENTATIVE TRACT 8197 AND NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 77-83 WERE CONTINUED
TO NOVEMBER 15, 1977 TO ALLOW APPLICANT TIME TO MEET WITH SUBDIVISION
COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER ALTERNATIVE PLANS WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF APPLICANT
BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Stern, Finley, Gibson, Shea, Newman
NOES: Hoffman
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Slates
Commissioner Finley requested that when it comes back to the Sub-
division Committe she would like to have examples of what the
City has done with walkways in parks. in other areas of the City.
Chairman Slates requested,a Commissioner to sit in on the Subdivision
Committee meeting in his absence. Commissioner Shea stated that she
would attend that meeting.
ZONE CHANGE NO. 77-26
Applicant: Franklin J. Buccella
This is a request for a change of zone from M1 to R2-PD in the area
located north of Talbert Avenue east of Pacific Electric Railroad.
The staff recommended that the zone change be approved for a change
from M1 to Q-R2-PD. .
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John Cope stated that the staff expanded the area in the application
and also initiated the "Q" prefix on the requested R2-PD zoning.
The public hearing was opened.
Commissioner Stern stated that he had a letter from Mrs. Doty stating
that she was in favor of the change of zone but could not stay for
the public hearing to testify.
Lee Collins addressed the Commission and spoke in favor of the
zone change, stating that the feeidential development would help the
shopping center at Beach and'Talbert.
Joe Garcia also spoke in favor of the zone change.
Mr. Zweibel spoke in favor of residential use for the area.
Jerry Bame addressed the Commission and spoke in opposition to the
change to residential. He stated that he represented no particular
group, but felt that as a citizen the City should retain this
property as industrial.
Mr. Zweibel again addressed the Commission and spoke in favor of the
requested zone change.
Frank Buccella addressed the Commission and spoke in favor of the
zone change. He discussed the the buffering between residential
and industrial.
Lillian Warner addressed the Commission and stated that she felt
it should be a condition of approval for the applicant to acquire
all the property in the area. She stated that she felt the property
rights of everyone should be considered and not just the developer.
The public hearing was closed.
Commission discussion ensued.
ON MOTION BY HOFFMAN AND SECOND BY NEWMAN ZONE CHANGE 77-26, A CHANGE
OF ZONE FROM M1 TO Q-R2-PD WAS APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS
AND CONDITIONS BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
FINDINGS:
1. The Land Use Element of the General Plan designates the subject
property as medium density residential. Therefore, the requested
medium density zoning is consistent with and actually implements.
the General Plan designation.
2. The resulting residential uses will be more compatible with the
existing residential uses to the immediate east.
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CONDITIONS:
1. There shall be a minimum forty-five (45) foot setback line, measure
from the property line on the north and west property lines of the
38.7+ acre site, where such property lines abut industrially zoned
properties.
2. Development of the property shall be as provided in one (1) of the
following alternatives:
a. Review and approval of any development proposal shall be for
the entire 38.7+ acre site.
b. Review and approval of any development proposal shall be based
on a 19+ contiguous acre site.
3. The density shall not exceed 8.5 dwelling units per gross acre.
4. There shall be one (1) access point for each nineteen (19+) acre
site. The location of said access shall be subject to the Planning
Department and Department of Public Works approval.
AYES: Stern, Gibson, Slates, Shea, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: Finley
ABSENT: None
Commissioner Finley stated that when this area was before the Planning
Commission public hearing for General Plan Amendment 77-1 she had voted
against the change as she felt that a mistake -was made in losing a tax base for the
City. In addition she feels that a decision on this piece should not have been made
prior to the decision on the change to the whole Gothard Area. She stated that to
,be consistent she voted against the zone change.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 10053/NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 77-107
Subdivider: R. D. Cox
This is a request for a 16 lot subdivision located on the northeast
corner of Rushmoor Lane and McFadden Avenue.
Dick Kaupp addressed the Commission and stated that he would be glad
to answer any questions.
Commission discussion ensued.
ON MOTION BY HOFFMAN AND SECOND BY NEWMAN NEGATIVE DECLARATION
NO. 77-107 WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Stern, Finley, Gibson, Slates, Shea, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
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ON MOTION BY NEWMAN AND SECOND BY SHEA TENTATIVE TRACT 10053 WAS
APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
AYES: Stern, Finley, Gibson, Slates, Shea, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
FINDINGS:
The Planning Commission of the City of Huntington Beach does hereby
find that the proposed subdivision, along with its design and improve-
ments, is consistent with general and specific plans for the area in
that:
1. The proposed subdivision of this 4.07 acre parcel of land zoned
R-1 (which allows 6.5 units per gross acre) is proposed to be
- constructed having only 4.75 units per gross acre.
2.* The General Plan has set forth provisions for this type of land
use as well as setting forth objectives for implementation for
this type of housing.
3: The property was previously studied for this intensity of land
use at the time the land use designation for low density resi-
dential was placed on said property.
4. The lot size, depth, frontage, street widths, and all other design
and improvements features of the proposed subdivision are pro-
posed to be constructed in compliance with standard plans and
specifications on file with the City, as well as in compliance
with the State Map Act and supplementary City Subdivision Ordinance.
CONDITIONS:
1. The map received and dated October 28, 1977, shall be the approved
layout subject to alternative No. 2 being the treatment for
cul-de-sac street.
2. The grading plan and street improvement plan shall be reviewed by
- the Street Tree Superintendent prior to construction to assure
that the critical area of the roots at the base of the tree will
not be damaged through construction.
3. Drainage system for the subdivision shall be approved by the De-
partment of Public Works prior to the recordation of a final map.
The system shall be designed to provide for siltation and erosion
control both during and after construction of the project.
4. If the developer proposes to provide air conditioning, the insu-
lation in'ceilings and exterior walls shall be a minimum of R-19
and R-11, respectively. If no air conditioning is to be provided,
insulation in ceilings and exterior walls shall be a minimum of
R-13 and R-7, respectively.
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5. All building spoils, such as unusable lumber, wire, pipe, and
other surplus or unusable material, shall be disposed of at an
offsite facility equipped to handle them.
6. Natural gas and 220V electrical shall be stubbed in at the lo-
cation of clothes dryers, and natural gas shall be stubbed in at
the locations of cooking facilities, water heaters, and central
heating units.
7. The structures on subject property, whether attached or detached,
shall be constructed in compliance with the State Acoustical
Standards set forth for all units that lie within the 60 CNEL
contours of the property.
8. Crime prevention techniques should be applied to the design aspects
of the project (e.g., single -cylinder locks, etc.).
9. Low -volume heads shall be used on all spigots and water faucets.
AYES: Stern, Finley, Gibson, Slates, Shea, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
REVISED`/TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 9796 AND REQUEST FOR RECONSIDERATION OF
TENTATIVE TRACT 9941 AND CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 77-05
Applicant: Robert F. Curtis
ON MOTION BY SLATES AND SECOND BY SHEA THE COMMISSION AGREED TO
RECONSIDER CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 77-05, TENTATIVE TRACT 9941
(REVISED) AND TENTATIVE TRACT 9796 (REVISED) BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
AYES: Stern, Finley, Gibson, Slates, Shea, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
John Cope stated that these two tracts have been previously approved
and are back before the Commission because of slight modifications.
He further stated that items have been reviewed by the staff and
subdivision committion and the changes will result in a reduction of
units and number of bedrooms.
The public hearing was opened.
There was no one present to speak on these applications, and the
public hearing was closed.
ON MOTION BY SHEA AND SECOND BY NEWMAN CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 77-0
WAS APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS AND CONDITION BY THE FOLLOWI
VOTE:
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FINDINGS - CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 77-05 (REVISED)
1: The minor lot width reduction has been necessitated -by the com-
bination of the site being located within a problem subdivision
area, and the fact that Lynn Street was recently increased from
a 50 foot to a 54 foot right-of-way.
2. A reduction is not inconsistent with limitations on surrounding
properties, since they also are subject to the constraints of
past illegal subdivision activities.
3. The reduction allows for an innovative subdivision that yields
less units than a conventional R3 subdivision and therefore is
not materially detrimental to the public welfare or injurious
to the properties in the general vicinity.
CONDITION OF APPROVAL - CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO: 77-05 (REVISED
1. The site plan received and dated October 31, 1977, shall be the
approved plan for -type and location of all structures.
AYES: Stern, Finley, Gibson, Slates, Shea, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ON MOTION BY NEWMAN AND SECOND BY SHEA REVISED TENTATIVE TRACT 9941
WAS APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
FINDINGS - TENTATIVE TRACT 9941 (REVISED)
1. The proposed subdivision of this 2.5 acre parcel of land is zoned
R3-22 which allows 22 units per gross acre is proposed to be con-
structed having 22 units per gross acre.
2. The General Plan has set forth provisions for this type of land use
as well as setting forth objectives for implementation of this
type of housing.
3. The property was previously studied for this intensity of land
use at the time the land use designation for Medium High Density
Residential was placed upon said property.
4. The lot, size, depth, street width, and all other design improve-
ment features of the proposed subdivision are proposed to be
constructed in compliance with standard plans and specifications
on file with the City, as well as in compliance with the State
Map Act and supplemental City ordinances.
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CONDITIONS - TENTATIVE TRACT 9941 AND 9796 (REVISED)
1. Tentative Map 9941 and Tentative Map 9796 received and dated
October 31, 1977 shall be the approved layout.
2. Sewer and water main systems shall be installed in Lynn Street
from Warner Avenue south to the southerly boundary of the proposed
subdivision.
3. A minimum of a 12 foot travel lane on each side of the centerline
of Lynn Street shall be constructed by the developer from Warner
Avenue to the northerly boundary of the subdivision. Such con-
struction shall be in compliance with the standard plans and
specifications of the Department of Public Works.
4. Detailed plans for the treatment within the cul-de-sac shall be
submitted to the Planning Department for review and approval action
prior to issuance of building permits.
5. Plans for all the private patio walls shall be submitted to the
Planning Department for approval action. Such plans shall
indicate the type of material and design of the walls.
6. Drainage for the subdivision shall be approved by the Department
of Public Works prior to recordation of a final map. This system
shall be designed to provide for siltation and erosion control
both during and after construction of the project.
7. If the developer proposes to provide air conditioning, the
insulation in ceilings and exterior walls shall be a minimum of
R-19 and R-11, respectively. If no air conditioning is to be
provided, the insulation in ceilings and exterior walls shall
be a minimum of R-13,and R-7-, respectively.
8. Natural gas and 220V electrical shall be stubbed in at the lo-
cation of clothes dryers.
9. Natural gas shall be stubbed in at the locations of cooking
facilities, water heaters, and central heating units.
10. Low volume heads shall be used on all spigots and water faucets.
11. All holding tanks for restroom facilities shall be equipped for
a capacity of 3.5 gallons if such facilities are available at
the time of construction.
12. Crime prevention techniques should be applied to the design
aspects of the project (e.g., single -cylinder locks, etc.).
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13. All building spoils, such as unusable lumber, wire, pipe, and
other surplus or unusable material, shall be disposed of at an
offsite facility equipped to handle them.
14. The structures on subject property, whether attached or detached,
shall be constructed in compliance with the -State acoustical
standards set forth for all units that lie within the 60 CNEL
contours of the property.
15. An engineering geologist shall be engaged to submit a report
indicating the ground surface acceleration from earth movement
for the project property.
16. All structures proposed for construction within this development
shall be constructed in compliance with the g-factors as
indicated by the geologist's report.
17. Calculations for footings and structural members to withstand
anticipated g-factors shall be submitted to the City for review.
18.. Prior to the issuance of building permits within the subdivision,
a landscape plan shall be submitted to the Planning Department
for review and approval.
AYES: Stern, Finley, Gibson, Slates, Shea, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
INDUSTRIAL IMPROVEMENT OF THE GOTHARD CORRIDOR
The Commission discussed present code violations,which number in
the hundreds, in the Lusk and other industrial park areas. The
Commission complimented Chuck Clark on his report.
Mark Travis, Deputy City Attorney, stated that enforcement of the
ordinance code is somewhat dictated by the philosophy of the City
Attorney's office.
REQUEST FOR EXPANSION OF TOWNLOT SPECIFIC PLAN
The Commission concurred with the staff's viewpoints on this matter
and directed that a letter from the Commission be forwarded to the
City Council recommending that the Townlot boundaries not be
expanded at this time due to further coastal planning changes necessary.
Commissioner Shea was excused at 9:40 p.m.
TENTATIVE TRACT 7771: WALL DESIGN
ON MOTION BY SLATES AND SECOND BY NEWMAN WALL DESIGN FOR TENTATIVE
TRACT NO. 7771 WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Stern, Finley, Gibson, Slates, Newman, Hoffman
NOES: None
ABSENT: Shea
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SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT APPLICATION
Commissioner Stern suggested that provisions should be made on the
front of the form for advising applicant that additional legal
description could be attached to the form.
GENERAL PLAN REVISIONS
Assistant Planning Director Florian requested of the Commission that
areas of concern in the revised General Plan be identified before
General Plan Amendment 77-3 is set for public hearing.
COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS: ,
Commissioner Finley stated that she would like for a tour to be
arranged to include viewing of planned developments in the City as
well as industrial development, and to see what is happening in the
Townlot area. Chairman Slates requested Secretary Selich to arrange
this tour on a Saturday.
Chairman Slates stated that after the.tour a study session should
be held to discuss improvement of the Gothard Industrial Corridor.
STAFF'S COMMENTS:
Secretary Selich discussed the proposed agenda for the joint City
Council/Planning Commission meeting on November 7, 1977.
ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting adjourned to a joint meeting with the City Council on
November 7, 1977 at 6:30 p.m. in Room B-8 of the Civic Center.
Edward D. Selich Roger D. S
Secretary Chairman
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