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MINUTES
HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
Council Chambers, Civic Center
Huntington Beach, California
TTIESDAY, MAY 16, 1978 - 7 P.M.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Higgins, Russell, Stern, Finley
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Shea, Newman, Hoffman
NOTE: A TAPE RECORDING OF THIS MEETING IS ON FILE IN THE PLANNING
DEPARTMENT OFFICE.
CONSENT CALENDAR:
Minutes of May 2, 1978
CGP 78-9 - Find in conformance with the General Plan Signal Modifi-
cation at Goldenwest and McFadden-
CGP 78-10 - Find in conformance with the General Plan construction of
a 12-inch water line across Harbour Channel.
CGP 78=11 - Find in conformance with the General Plan Acquisition of a
5 acre park/athletic facility site.
Special Sign Permit No. 78-4 - Approve request for continuance to
June 6, 1978 meeting.
ON MOTION BY STERN AND SECOND BY RUSSELL THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS
WERE APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Russell, Stern, Finley
NOES: None
ABSENT: Shea, Newman, Hoffman
REGULAR ITEMS:
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 78-5/NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 78-19
Applicant: Active Concepts, Inc. (Bennie G. Williams)
This is a request to establish a teenage membership disco. The subject
use is proposed to utilize approximately 3300 sq. ft. of a shopping
center that is presently under construction. This space was originally
designated on the approved plan as office -professional space. The
property is located on the northwest corner of Warner and Magnolia.
Savoy Bellavia addressed the Commission and advised them that this
item has been previously continued by the Planning Commission and
that he had contacted various cities currently having operating
discos, for further information. Mr. Bellavia, however, was unsuccess-
ful in obtaining written responses, but did speak to various Police
Departments in other cities. Some comments he received were that
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Tuesday, May 16, 1978
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teenage discos have a tendency to create abnormal amounts of traffic
due to "cruising" of parking lots by automobiles; attraction of young
people from outside the community; teenage arrests have been made due
to drunk driving and being under the influence of drugs; and noise
levels have increased due to the congregation of a large number of
young people.
Chairman Finley opened the public hearing. There being no one present
to speak, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Stern felt that a lack of teenage activities prevails and
that the proposed disco may fill that need. He further stated that a
one year time limit on the application was appropriate to allow the
applicant time to operate the disco and also allow time for the City
to observe the disco for any possible impacts.
Commissioner Russell requested the applicant to approach the Commission
for questioning.
Chairman Finley reopened the public hearing.
Mr. Bennie Williams of Active Concepts, Inc., the applicant, addressed
the Commission and stated that another city reported little violence
resulting from their disco, that on occasions some trouble has taken
place outside the facility but only one incident has taken place inside
the disco.
The possibility of unfavorable incidents that might occur with the
approval of this application was further discussed .
Mr. Williams stated that the proposed location was conducive to a youth
facility due to being directly across the street from another youth
facility.
Further Commission discussion ensued.
ON MOTION BY STERN AND SECOND BY HIGGINS NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 78-19
WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Russell, Stern, Finley
NOES: None
ABSENT: Shea, Hoffman, Newman
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Commissioner Higgins expressed concern about the operation of restaurants
in conjunction with a disco at the shopping center. He felt that the
successful operation of the two restaurants is critical to the center, and
that the operation of the disco may lessen the appeal of the restaurants
:to patrons due to excessive noise, automobile congestion, etc. However,
Commissioner Higgins feels there is a need for such a youth facility
but feels other commercial centers should be scrutinized.
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Tuesday, May 16, 1978
Page Three
Commissioner Russell expressed favor of a teenage disco. However,
he also feels that traffic in the location proposed may present a
problem.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY STERN AND SECONDED BY HIGGINS TO APPROVE
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO 78-5 WITH CONDITIONS AND FINDINGS AS
OUTLINED BY STAFF:
VOTE:
AYES: Stern
NOES: Higgins, Russell, Finley
ABSENT: Shea, Newman, Hoffman
The application was automatically continued to June 6, 1978.
Commissioner Finley reopened the public hearing and continued it to
June 6, 1978.
CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 78-7 - APPEAL
Applicant: C. George Lippincott, Jr.
This is a request to permit a patio cover to encroach within one (1)
ft. of the side property line and to raise block wall to 7 ft. + with
storage structure roof at zero property line located at 17036 Edgewater
Lane, Huntington Beach, California.
Pat Spencer gave a brief presentation on this application, stating that
the patio and wall are presently existing.
Commissioner Russell determined that the work had been done by a
licensed contractor.
The public hearing was opened.
Ms. Norma Gibbs addressed the Commission stating that she was speaking
for Mr. & Mrs. Lippincott. Ms. Gibbs stated that the applicant had
secured necessary permits for the construction of the block wall. She
also stated that the patio cover consists of trellis covering and
could not be considered a' patio cover. She read into the record'a
letter from the Bolsa Chica Nursery stating that Mr. Lippincot had
purchased a great amount of plants there and that his yard had been
completed in good taste. She also read a letter from a neighbor
into the record in favor of the proposal. Ms. Gibbs further stated
that the present block wall is six feet high and that a topping
would bring the wall up an additional six inches, so that Mr. Lippin-
cot has protection of his stored materials. Ms. Gibbs read the
mandatory findings listed on the staff report into the record and
felt that the proposed application warrants approval under those
findings.
Mr. Cardinas, adjacent property owner, addressed the Commission and
spoke in opposition to the proposal. Mr. Cardinas pointed out that
the storage area had become part of his front entrance, and he felt
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Tuesday, May 16, 1978
Page Four
it was unattractive. He said he did not agree to any storage facility
adjacent to his property. He also pointed out that the overhead struc-
ture was a potential fire hazard as determined by an insurance adjuster.
Mr. Cardinas further stated that a City inspector had visited the prop-
erty and determined that the block wall exceeds six feet.
Ms. Gibbs remarked that the neighborhood had various properties that
had fencing exceeding six feet.
Mrs. Lippincott addressed the Commission and invited the Commission to
view the proposed site prior to making a determination.
The public hearing was closed.
Commission discussion ensued.
Commissioner Russell questioned whether a problem exists with the Fire
Code. Fire Marshal Ott stated he was not certain whether or not the
proposal meets the requirements of the Uniform Building Code/Fire Code.
Mr. Spencer, Planning Department, advised the Commission that any permits
for the wall become void if the height limit of six feet is exceeded on
a block wall.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY STERN TO APPROVE CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO,. 78-7
GRANTING THE BEAMS AND ALLOWING VERTICAL SUPPORTS TO PROVIDE A FINISHED
VISUAL APPEARANCE PROVIDING THAT ONE COURSE OF BLOCKS IS REMOVED FROM
THE WALL.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF SECOND.
Mr. Selich suggested that the Planning Commission request a report from
the Building Department regarding compliance to Code of the overhead
structure.
ON MOTION BY HIGGINS AND SECOND BY RUSSELL CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 78-7
WAS CONTINUED TO JUNE 6, 1978 ALLOWING STAFF TIME TO RESEARCH THE PROPOSAL
FOR CONFORMANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE CODE BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Russell, Stern, Finley
NOES: None
ABSENT: Newman, Shea, Hoffman
The Chairman reopened the public hearing.
Mr. Lippincott addressed the Commission and gave the Commission concurrence
of the continuance.
Chairman Finley stated that this public hearing will be continued to
June 6, 1978.
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Tuesday, May 16, 1978
Page Five
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 78-7
Applicant: Pure Life Centers, Inc.
This is a request for the establishment of a health center located
at 15041 Goldenwest Street, on the southwest corner of Bolsa and
Goldenwest.
Savoy Bellavia gave a brief presentation on this application. Mr.
Bellavia stated that this application is a request to permit the
development of a health center in an existing structure of a commercial
center. The facilities will include a juice and food counter, exer-
cise room, sauna, showers and hair dressing facilities.
The public hearing was opened.
Mr. Barry Ward, applicant, addressed the Commission. Mr. Ward stated
that he has read the staff report and agrees to its contents. He
feels this will be a good use and an asset to the community.
The public hearing was closed.
Commission discussion ensued.
ON MOTION BY STERN AND SECOND BY RUSSELL CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO.
78-7 WAS APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS AND CONDITION, BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
FINDINGS:
1. The proposed plan substantially complies with the applicable
ordinance code requirements.
2. The proposed design and layout of the use will provide for a
compatible land use with both proposed commercial uses and existing
surrounding commercial uses.
CONDITION OF APPROVAL:
1. The site plan and floor plan dated March 31, 1978, shall be the
approved layout.,
AYES: Higgins, Russell, Stern, Finley
NOES: None
ABSENT: Newman, Hoffman, Shea
The requirement of Conditional Use Permits for proposals allowed
by Ordinance Code in commercial shopping centers already having
conceptual approval was discussed. Commissioner Finley directed
staff to investigate this matter further to determine if a code
amendment eliminating the Conditional Use Permit requirement for
such uses would be in order.
Minutes: H.B. Planning Commission
Tuesday, May 16, 1978
Page Six
PRECISE PLAN OF STREET ALIGNMENT 77-7B/NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 78-43
This is a request to provide a cul-de-sac on "Graham Place" on the
south side of Heil Avenue, approximately 300 feet west of Graham Street.
Savoy Bellavia gave a presentation on the proposal. He stated that on
February 7, 1978, the Planning Commission approved Precise Plan of
Street Alignment No. 77-7, an alignment of an existing private street
located south of Heil Avenue, approximately 312 feet west of Graham
Street. The approved street extended from Heil Avenue approximately
630 feet south to the northern property line of the City -owned future park
site, Sims Grove. The City Council modified the approved alignment and
only approved approximately 490 ft. of the proposed street and requested
that the staff explore alternatives for the termination of the new street
and the location of the cul-de-sac.
Precise Plan of Street Alignment No. 77-7 was divided into two sections
in order to have a portion of it approved and the remaining portion
reanalyzed for alternative solutions to the termination of the proposed
street. Precise Plan of Street Alignment No. 77-7"A" is that portion
of Graham Place and Heil Avenue south approximately 490 feet. Precise
Plan of'Street Alignment No. 77-7"B" is that portion from the southerly
end of Precise Plan of Street Alignment No. 77-7"A" to the termination
on' the subject site.
Mr. Bellavia briefly presented the three alternatives outlined, and
stated that the Recreation and Parks Commission had also reviewed the
alternatives and chose Alternative 1 as the least detrimental.
Mr. Selich stated that the City Council had instructed staff to pursue
Alternative 2.
The public hearing was opened.
Mr. Bill Sullivan addressed the Commission and requested someone to'
point out the landlocked parcels to him on a map. Mr. Bellavia pointed
out the landlocked parcels and stated that several previously approved
tentative parcel maps have created these landlocked parcels fronting
Graham Place. Mr. Sullivan stated his objection to the proposed align-
ment to the City Council and was told at that time that staff would work
with him in resolving his objections. Mr. Sullivan also objected to the
proposed parking lot adjacent to his property on the park site. He
further objected to any dedication of property for the proposed precise
plan of street alignment.
Access easements to various properties were discussed. Mr. Rampart
addressed the Commission and cited various illegal activities he has
observed in the park and grove. He was concerned with the burglaries
in the immediate area and trash that has been dumped. He feels there
is current access to the parcels from Graham and feels there is adequate
parking presently.
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Page Seven
Mr. Ralph Ricks addressed the Commission and stated his opposition
to a parking lot at this point in time. He feels there is little
use of the park presently and stated that additional asphalt is not
needed. Mr. Ricks prefers the site to stay as is.
Ms. Gwen Rampart addressed the Commission and cited the need of the
park to be used for group activities, i.e., girl scouts, camp fire
girls, etc.
Mr. Bellavia stated that according to the Department of Parks and
Recreation, a certain fund has been proposed in the budget for clean
up of the park and that the intention is to keep the park as close
to natural as possible.
Commissioner Stern feels there are no landlocked parcels because
private easements exists and that an application has been presented
to the Commission for which there is no need.
Commissioner Finley feels it is premature to be making any decisions
on the park.
Mr. Selich stated that the access to the park is irrelevant to this
application, but that the property in question cannot be developed
until access is provided. Mr. Selich then presented another alter-
native by moving the cul-de-sac slightly north. He cited the
importance of the cul-de-sac for access of emergency vehicles.
Mr. Sullivan again addressed the Commission and stated his opposition
to Mr. Selich's alternative, stating that he now has a work shop where
the cul-de-sac bulb is proposed.
The public hearing was closed.
Commission discussion ensued.
ON MOTION BY STERN AND SECOND BY RUSSELL NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 78-43
WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Russell, Stern, Finley
NOES: None
ABSENT: Shea, Hoffman, Newman
A MOTION WAS MADE BY STERN TO DENY PRECISE PLAN OF STREET ALIGNMENT
77-7"B" DUE TO LACK OF LANDLOCKED PARCELS IN EXISTENCE.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF SECOND.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY HIGGINS AND SECONDED BY RUSSELL TO APPROVE
PRECISE PLAN OF STREET ALIGNMENT NO. 77-7"B", ALTERNATIVE ONE.
Commissioner Finley stated that she did not wish to make a decision
on the park access at this time and therefore, was voting in oppo-
sition to the motion.
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Tuesday, May 16, 1978
Page Eight
VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Russell
NOES: Stern, Finley
ABSENT: Shea, Newman, Hoffman
The application was automatically continued to June 6, 1978.
Commissioner Finley reopened the public hearing and continued it to
June 6, 1978.
Mr. Selich stated that he would meet with Mr. Sullivan to work out an
agreeable compromise.
CODE AMENDMENT NO. 78-3 "BUS BENCHES"
Mr. Selich spoke briefly about the amendment and stated that the
wording had been expanded to permit transit shelters.
The public hearing was opened.
Mike Rogers spoke in favor of the amendment, stating that the benches
are very important to the senior citizens.
The public hearing was closed..
Commission discussion ensued.
ON MOTION BY STERN AND SECOND BY RUSSELL CODE AMENDMENT NO. 78-3
"BUS BENCHES" WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Russell, Stern, Finley
NOES: None
ABSENT: Shea, Newman, Hoffman
Commissioner Stern requested that the Council be advised of the Planning
Commission's desire to maximize non -advertising benches. He also re-
quested that Council be provided adequate information on purchase price
and maintenance cost of benches when the Bench Ad agreements are con-
sidered.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
RESOLUTION OF INTENTION TO INITIATE A ZONE CHANGE
Ms. Florian addressed the Commission and stated that the resolution
of intention to initiate a zone change had been generated by staff
because of an error on a previously approved zone change. The properties
located at the southeast corner of Warner Avenue and "A" Street (lot 46
and part of 48, tract 360) were inadvertently included in the adopted
ordinance which changed zoning on the property located west of "B" Street
and east of the Alley between Beach Boulevard and "A" Street and north
of Blaylock Drive and south of Warner Avenue from C-4, Highway Commercial
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Tuesday, May 16, 1978
Page Nine
to R-2, Medium Density Residential. Because said property has a
new commercial building located on it, the Planning Commission
had excluded the property from their approval of Zone Change
77-9 on September 7, 1977.
To rectify this problem, the Planning Commission is being requested
to adopt the resolution of intention to initiate a zone change and
conduct a public hearing.
Commission discussion ensued.
ON MOTION BY STERN AND SECOND BY RUSSELL, THE RESOLUTION OF IN-
TENTION TO INITIATE A ZONE CHANGE WAS ADOPTED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Russell, Stern, Finley
NOES: None
ABSENT: Shea, Newman, Hoffman
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None
PLANNING DEPARTMENT ITEMS
INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, GOTHARD/HEIL
Mr. Selich presented the most recent development proposals at
Gothard and Heil. Mr. Selich outlined the proposal on a map
depicting a series of shell buildings proposed. He explained
that the site plan for this project would be approved by the Board
of Zoning Adjustments to assist the developer in meeting his time
schedule, and at a later date a subdivision would be processed on
the site as well as an "X" Map on the adjacent property to complete
the street pattern.
COMPLIANCE WITH CONDITIONS, A TO Z WRECKERS
Commissioner Russell thanked the staff for information provided.
LAMBERT PARK ACCESS
Ms. Florian gave a brief presentation on access to Lambert Park as
requested by Commissioner Finley.
CONFORMANCE OF GENERAL PLAN NO. 78-12
10-acres of proposed land for sale as surplus City -owned property
not being required for any future public purposes.
ON MOTION BY RUSSELL AND SECOND BY HIGGINS, CONFORMANCE OF GENERAL
PLAN NO. 78-12 WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Russell, Stern, Finley
NOES: None
ABSENT: Shea, Hoffman, Newman
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Tuesday, May 16, 1978
Page Ten
CONFORMANCE OF GENERAL PLAN NO. 78-13
Request by Public Works Department for City to purchase three acres of
land for the purpose of expanding its water utility operation facilities.
ON MOTION BY RUSSELL AND SECOND BY FINLEY CONFORMANCE OF GENERAL PLAN NO.
78-13 WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Russell, Stern, Finely
NOES: None
ABSENT: Shea, Hoffman, Newman
ABSTAIN: Higgins
CONFORMANCE OF GENERAL PLAN NO. 78-14
Request by Public Works Department to purchase 3.14 acres of property
with five existing industrial buildings for helicopter operations and
storage. The property is located on the westerly side of Gothard
Street, approximately 950 feet north of Ellis Avenue.
ON MOTION BY RUSSELL AND SECOND BY HIGGINS CONFORMANCE OF GENERAL PLAN
NO. 78-14 WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AUES: Higgins, Russell, Stern, Finley
NOES: None
ABSENT: Shea, Hoffman, Newman
COMMISSIONER ITEMS:
A MOTION TO RECONSIDER PRECISE PLAN OF STREET ALIGNMENT NO. 77-8 WAS
MADE BY FINLEY AND SECONDED BY STERN.
VOTE:
AYES: Russell, Stern, Finley, Higgins
NOES: None
ABSENT: Shea, Hoffman, Newman
Chairman Finley expressed her concerns regarding this precise plan and
its long term effects on circulation in the area. She also discussed
the long-range impact of Tentative Tract 10169 on Lake Street.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY FINLEY AND SECONDED BY STERN TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION
OF PRECISE PLAN OF STREET ALIGNMENT 77-8 FOR A REPORT ON THE IMPLI-
CATIONS OF THE PRECISE PLAN AND A LEGAL INTERPRETATION OF THE STATUS
OF, TENTATIVE TRACT 10169.
VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Russell, Stern, Finley
NOES: None
ABSENT: Shea, Hoffman, Newman
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Tuesday, May 16, 1978
Page Eleven
Robert Jarrard, addressed the Commission explaining his progress
to date on Tract 10169 and his concerns about any future action
on this tract.
The Planning Commission directed staff to report back to the
Commission at the earliest possible date with the information re-
quested.
STAFF COMMENTS:
Ed Selich reviewed the action of the City Council meeting of
May 15, 1978 .with the Planning Commission.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 10:20 P.M.
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CALL FOR SPECIAL MEETING
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PLANNING COMMISSION
Ruth Finley, Commissioner
Robert Bazil, Commissioner
John Stern, Commissioner
Ronald M. Russell, Commissioner
Timothy T. Paone, Commissioner
Frank P. Higgins, Commissioner
Stanley J. Cohen, Commissioner
You are hereby notified that a Special Meeting of the Planning
Commission of the City of Huntington Beach, California, is called
for and will be held in Room B-S (adjoining Council Chambers) of
the Civic Center, 2000 Main Street, Huntington Beach, California,
at the hour of 7:00 p.m. on Tuesday, May 30, 1977. The purpose
of this special meeting called by the Commissioners as a Committee
of the whole is for orientation of the new Planning Commission
including a review of relevant laws, regulations, and meeting
procedures; review of the role of the Planning Commission and
supporting staff functions; and possible election of officers.
I hereby certify that I received the above notice, "Call for Special
Meeting of the Planning Commission," prior to 7:00 p.m. on Monday,
May 29, 1977.
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