HomeMy WebLinkAbout1978-11-14Approved Dec. 5, 1978
MINUTES
HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
ADJOURNED MEETING
Room B-8 - Civic Center
2000 Main Street
Huntington Beach, California
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 14, 1978 - 7:00 PM
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Higgins, Russell, Stern, Finley, Cohen,
Bazil, Paone
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: None
NOTE: A TAPE RECORDING OF THIS MEETING IS ON FILE IN THE PLANNING
DEPARTMENT OFFICE.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 8197
Applicant: Foxx Development Corporation
To permit construction of a 46 unit, single family residential
development on the north side of Taylor Avenue approximately 660
feet west of Beach Boulevard in an R1, Low Density Residential
District.
Acting Secretary Palin reported that the applicant has requested
that the Commission consider certain modifications in two of the
suggested conditions of approval concerning energy saving lighting
and block walls. The Commission concurred with the changes, and
Commissioner Bazil noted that the applicant should take into con-
sideration the possible extension of a north -south street at the
time he constructs the wall on the north property line, in order
to assure the least amount of disruption to the wall if and when
the street goes through.
Commissioner Russell stated that he remains opposed to any future
north -south street to provide access from Talbert Avenue and that it
is the consensus of the homeowners in the area that approval of
the subject tract with this provision is in conflict with prior
assurances made by the City in regard to circulation for the area.
ON MOTION BY HIGGINS AND SECOND BY RUSSELL TENTATIVE TRACT MAP
NO. 8197 WAS APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS,
BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
FINDINGS:
1. The proposed subdivision of this 9.45 acre parcel of land zoned
Rl (which allows 6.5 units per gross acre) is proposed to be
constructed having 4.86 units per gross acre.
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2. The General Plan has set forth provisions for this type of land use
as well as setting forth objectives for implementation of this type
of housing.
3. The property was previously studied for this intensity of land use
at the time the land use designation for medium density residential
was placed on the property.
4. The lot size, depth, frontage, street widths, and all other design
and improvements features of the proposed subdivision are proposed
to be constructed in compliance with standard plans and specifica-
tions on file with the City, as well as in compliance with the State
Map Act and supplementary City Subdivision Ordinance.
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL:
1. The map received and dated November 14, 1978, shall be the approved
layout.
2. A 6-foot high, 6" wide block wall shall be constructed along the
west property line. The design and materials of this wall shall be
subject to Planning Department approval.
3. Sewer, water, and fire hydrant systems shall be subject to City
standards.
4. Sewerage shall be through the Huntington Beach sewer system.
5. Water service shall be through the Huntington Beach water system.
6. Drainage for the subdivision shall be approved by the Department
of Public Works prior to recordation of a final map. This system shall
be designed to provide for siltation and erosion control both
during and after construction of the project.
7. The developer shall dedicate on the final map a ten (10) foot public
access easement to provide access to the adjacent park from that
cul-de-sac which abuts the park site within the southerly half of
the proposed subdivision.
8. Provisions shall be made for future dedication of a north -south
street to the northerly property line of the subject tract, for the
purpose of providing vehicular access to the property to the north.
9. If the developer proposes to provide air conditioning, the insula-
tion in ceilings and exterior walls shall be a minimum of R-19 and
R-11, respectively. If no air conditioning is to be provided,
the insulation in ceilings and exterior walls shall be a minimum
of R-13 and R-7, respectively.
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10. All building spoils, such as unusable lumber, wire, pipe, and other
surplus or unusable material, shall be disposed of at an offsite
facility equipped to handle them.
11. A chemical analysis, as well as tests for physical properties of the
soil on subject property, shall be submitted to the City for review
prior to issuance of building permits.
12. High-pressure sodium vapor lamps shall be installed by the developer
within the rights -of -way of all public streets provided that a
program can be developed suitable to the Planning Department, the
Department of Public Works, and the Southern California Edison
Company.
13. Low volume heads shall be used on all spigots and water faucets.
14. A 6 foot high masonry wall shall be constructed on the north property
line of subject property and on the east property line also, exclud-
ing any portion of the easterly property line where there is an
existing wall on the abutting property.
AYES: Higgins, Russell, Stern, Finley, Cohen, Bazil, Paone
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
SEACLIFF PHASE IV
Applicant: A. J. Hall Corporation
ZONE CHANGE NO. 78-4 - A change of zone from ROS-0 to R2-PD-O
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 77-23 - To permit 533 single-family and
townhouse residential units.
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO. 78-37 - A four -lot division of land.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 10067 - To provide 190 lots, one lettered lot
(Product B).
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 10068 - To provide one lot (Product C).
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 10069 - Tp provide 147 lots, one lettered lot
(Product A).
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT NO. 77-6.
Commissioner Higgins informed the Commission that he would abstain from
discussion or action on the above items.
Acting Secretary Palin presented the various departments which the
Commission had asked to have represented at this meeting as follows:
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Jim Barnes, Environmental Resources; Mary Lynn Norby, Local Coastal
Program; Steve Kohler, Housing; Mel Ott, Fire Department; Mike
Zambory, Public Works; Norm Worthy, Recreation and Parks. No Police
Department representative was present. Cecil Sterling, representing
the firm which prepared the Environmental Impact Report (Ultrasystems)
was also present at the meeting.
Acting Secretary Palin discussed procedure, and it was determined to
review the EIR for adequacy prior to considering the actual project
applications.
Cecil Sterling reviewed the identified impacts to be expected from the
proposed project. He noted that many of the changes incorporated
into the plan have come about as a result of those impacts identified
in the EIR and could be considered as mitigation measures for the
project.
The Commission reviewed the EIR, discussing the following major points
in regard to the adequacy of that document:
Soils: Mr. Sterling said that two previous soils reports done in 1975
and 1976 had identified no significant soil problems, adding, however,
that there should be a subsequent report to design for acceleration
that might be expected from a 6.6 quake. Commissioner Stern suggested
that subsidence could be a problem that has not been fully addressed in
the EIR and that there might be a future need for water injection opera-
tion, since the area to the east and north of the project site has
experienced subsidence in the past. Mr. Sterling said that the project
area itself has no history of subsidence.
Drainage: The Commission expressed concern that the EIR does not show
the as it is presently proposed and that an update on the
drainage system might be appropriate. Mr. Sterling pointed out that the
changes to the drainage system were in fact brought about by the impacts
identified in the EIR, and that to require amendment to the EIR because
it had successfully accomplished its objective in mitigating the adverse
effects would penalize the consultant. It was his feeling that unless
the Planning Commission finds that the change in the drainage plan con-
stitutes a substantial change in the project no further EIR revision
should be necessary.
Jim Barnes informed the Commission that the consultant has completed
a later drainage study and the Environmental Resources section is
requesting that it be incorporated as part of the final Environmental
Impact Report. He said that the issues addressed therein were acceptable
to the agencies most concerned; i.e., the Department of Fish and Game
and the Regional Water Quality Control Board.
Parks: The Commission discussed the fact that this development does not
include a neighborhood park, even though it does provide a large amount
or private open space. Norm Worthy addressed the Commission to state
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that the environmental document is adequate for park purposes and that
his department is completely satisfied with it.
Fire Department Concerns:
Mel Ott indicated that the EIR has addressed the major concerns for
access and circulation to the area, and sufficient facilities are
available to serve the project. He noted that response time to the area
will be adequate, but pointed out that the EIR does not address final
design and interior circulation problems. In response to a question
from Commissioner Cohen concerning the location of underground oil lines
through the project area, Mr. Ott replied that these are of concern to
the Fire Department but can be handled during the construction phase of
the development. Mr. Young of the Huntington Beach Company said that
maps of all underground lines are available in his office.
Sewer: Adequate sewers for the project was considered a critical point
by the Commission, with Commissioners Bazil and Finley emphasizing that
they could not vote to approve the project until Reach 3 of the Pacific
Coast trunk line was under construction.
Socio-Economic Effects:
Commissioner Cohen pointed out the need for updated cost/revenue studies
to be prepared for the project, noting that the current EIR does not
include the post -Proposition 13 impacts the City may face from a project
of this size.
Police Protection: It was the consensus that the EIR had addressed the
amount of police protection needed for the project; it was noted, how-
ever, that the cost of that protection might need re-examination in
light of Proposition 13.
Air Quality: Discussion determined that the EIR had adequately examined
the air quality impacts for the project, both as the project might
affect the environment and as the surrounding land uses might affect the
future residents of the project.
38th Street: Commissioner Bazil stated that this, in his opinion, is
also a critical point, and that the Commission should insist on at least
dedication of right-of-way to Pacific Coast Highway, if not full street
width installed at this time. The possibility that 38th Street at
ultimate width and carrying ultimate traffic load might affect the drain-
age into the Bolsa Chica was discussed and it was the consensus that
this particular concern had not been discussed and resolved in the EIR.
Housing: Steve Kohler noted that the Housing Element is in the formative
stage and that no Local Coastal Plan housing policy has been determined.
He also noted that the unavailability of land at any price makes location
of low-cost housing in the coastal area extremely difficult. Mr. Kohler
indicated that is his opinion the manner in which the Coastal Commission
has been obtaining this type housing in coastal projects is not the
optimum method of providing such housing.
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Local Coastal Plan: Mary Lynn Norby addressed the Commission in regard
to the LCP and the policies of the Coastal Act. She informed them that
until the LCP is complete there are no City policies in the area, but
that any discussion or decisions made by the Planning Commission (e.g.,
approval of these projects, extension of 38th Street, etc.) would enter
into the study data for the LCP. Extensive discussion took place among
Commission members as to whether in this review it should consider the
desires and policies of the Coastal Commission for the coastal zone,
the provision of lower cost housing, and/or the growth inducing impact
of the completion of the trunk sewer and the extension of 38th Street
from Pacific Coast Highway to Garfield Avenue. The possible prejudicial
effect on the future Local Coastal Plan which might result from approval
of these projects was also discussed.
The public hearing was opened.
Herb Chatterton, Amigos de Bolsa Chica, said he remains concerned with
the quality of runoff water. He suggested the possibility that an align-
ment for 38th Street through a cut in the bluff might allow drainage
to Pacific Coast Highway and the ocean and might eliminate the need to
drain storm runoff into the Bolsa Chica.
Jack Spruill, Fish and Game representative, spoke in regard to the
proposed drainage, saying that his department does not feel that the
EIR addressed the current drainage plans. He said that a letter had
been submitted from the Department of Fish and Game indicating that it
could conditionally concur with the proposed drainage; however, they do
feel that it should be incorporated into the EIR in order to comply with
the legal requirements of CEQA.
Commissioner Paone discussed with legal staff the procedure for rejecting
a portion of an environmental document while finding it adequate in
other areas.
ON MOTION BY PAONE AND SECOND BY BAZIL THE COMMISSION FOUND ENVIRON-
MENTAL IMPACT REPORT NO. 77-6 INADEQUATE INSOFAR AS IT FAILS TO APPRO-
PRIATELY ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE ISSUE AND DIRECTED THAT AN AMENDMENT BE
PREPARED WITH RESPECT TO THAT ISSUE ALONE AND THAT SAID AMENDMENT SHOULD
INCLUDE VARIOUS ALTERNATIVES WHICH MIGHT BE AVAILABLE IN TERMS OF
DRAINAGE PLANS AND THE IMPACTS SUCH PLANS MIGHT HAVE, BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
AYES: Russell, Stern, Finley, Cohen, Bazil, Paone
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Higgins
ON MOTION BY STERN AND SECOND BY FINLEY THE COMMISSION REQUIRED THAT
THE COST/REVENUE IMPACTS OF THE PROJECT IN RELATION TO CITY SERVICES TO
BE PROVIDED BE UPDATED, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Russell, Stern, Finley, Cohen, Paone
NOES: Bazil
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Higgins
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Commissioner Stern made a motion, seconded by Bazil, that the Environ-
mental Impact Report include a study of 38th Street as a master -planned
route between Garfield Avenue and Pacific Coast Highway showing the
traffic impacts of that street in that configuration.
Extensive discussion followed concerning the relevancy of the total
street to this particular project and whether or not the traffic concerns
had been satisfactorily addressed in the EIR. Mr. Stern and Mr. Bazil
withdrew their motion and second.
ON MOTION BY PAONE AND SECOND BY BAZIL THE COMMISSION DIRECTED THAT THE
DRAINAGE AMENDMENT TO THE EIR SHOULD INCLUDE BOTH THE TRAFFIC AND DRAIN-
AGE IMPACTS OF THE NEW ALIGNMENT OF 38TH STREET, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Russell, Stern, Finley, Cohen, Bazil, Paone
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Higgins
A. J. Hall and Rod Freedman addressed the Commission to request that the
Environmental Impact Report be certified as adequate and the project
conditioned to meet the concerns which the Commission has expressed.
John O'Connor reviewed the various alternative actions the Commission may
take with regard to the requirements for an EIR. Jim Barnes informed the
Commission that an amendment to the environmental document would require
another public hearing and public input period, which he noted would be
a minimum of thirty days. Cecil Sterling discussed the extreme difficulty
of accurately determining the economic balance of the project, given the
uncertain effects of Proposition 13, and pointed out that under the CEQA
regulations consideration of economic effects is optional and may be
disregarded if the Commission should elect to do so.
ON MOTION BY PAONE AND SECOND BY BAZIL THE COMMISSION, PURSUANT TO THE
PROVISIONS OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT, DETERMINED TO
WAIVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR INCLUSION IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT
OF A DISCUSSION OF ECONOMIC EFFECTS, WITH THE STIPULATION THAT THE ECON-
OMIC INFORMATION WILL BE PROVIDED BY THE DEVELOPER AT THF.. NEXT STEP IN
THE PROCESS, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
NOES: Cohen
ABSENT: Finley
ABSTAIN: Higgins
ON MOTION BY PAONE AND SECOND BY BAZIL THE COMMISSION DETERMINED TO SOLICIT
INFORMATION FROM THOSE PRESENT WITH REGARD TO THE DRAINAGE ISSUE TO ALLOW
A DECISION ON POSSIBLE MODIFICATION OF THE EIR, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Russell, Stern, Bazil, Paone
Cohen
Finley
Higgins
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Mr. Paone elaborated on his motion by stating that the information should
include the drainage proposal as'it currently exists, the drainage impacts
to be expected from the street through from Garfield to PCH, and other
alternatives (drainage to the ocean, for example).
Dave Walden made a presentation of the drainage system, citing hydrology
reports prepared for the project. He also informed the Commission that
maintenance of the system will be monitored by the State Water Quality
Management District. The proposed drainage system has received the en-
dorsement of the Department of Fish and Game and the Regional Water Quality
Control Board, the two most directly concerned public entities.
The Commission discussed the information presented by Mr. Walden, consid-
ering whether or not it might be incorporated into the environmental
impact report as a modification made by the Commission with an analysis
from Ultrasystems of the proposed drainage plan and other concerns. Com-
missioner Bazil indicated that an analysis of the drainage might serve
to substantially answer the questions he had in regard to the impacts of
38th Street as well. 'Timing of such a modification as opposed to an
amended report was discussed with the proponents, and Mr. Hall agreed to
a two -week continuation of the hearing.
It was determined that the individual Commissioners should enumerate
their concerns and the applicant submit written responses for the next
public hearing as well as the Ultrasystems analysis. It was stressed that
the Commission had made no commitment to approve the EIR or the project
at that time.
ON MOTION BY BAZIL AND SECOND BY RUSSELL THE COMMISSION DETERMINED TO
RECONSIDER THE PRIOR ACTIONS REJECTING PORTIONS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT REPORT, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Russell, Stern, Finley, Cohen, Bazil, Paone
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Higgins
ON MOTION BY BAZIL AND SECOND BY PAONE THE COMMISSION RESCINDED ITS PRIOR
ACTIONS REJECTING PORTIONS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES:
Russell,
NOES:
Finley,
ABSENT:
None
ABSTAIN:
Higgins
Stern, Bazil, Paone
Cohen
ON MOTION BY BAZIL AND SECOND BY RUSSELL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT
NO. 77-6 AND ALL APPLICATIONS INCLUDED IN SEACLIFF PHASE IV PROJECT WERE
CONTINUED TO AN ADJOURNED MEETING ON TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 28, 1978, AT 7:00
PM, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Russell, Stern, Finley, Cohen, Bazil, Paone
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Higgins
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The Commission emphasized that its above actions were taken based upon
specified documents being presented to contain the necessary information
pertinent to the expressed concerns; this information is to be incor-
porated into the EIR as modifications thereto. In order to provide
adequate guidance to the proponents and the consultant, the Commissioners
outlined their individual concerns as follows:
Commissioner Paone: Parking deficiencies must be corrected; both the
regional linear park and a neighborhood park should
be addressed, with consideration of a possible park
type buffer between Product C and the bluff.
Commissioner Russell: A definite location for a park should be delineated;
the total alignment of 38th Street should be
addressed, including any Conflidt with Caltrans in
regard to intersection of that street with Pacific
Coast Highway.
Commissioner Stern: Issue of 38th Street addressed; interior circulation
in conjunction with Fire Department standards; drain-
age including results of the 38th Street alignment;
possible signalization where needed with cost the
responsibility of the developer; explanation of the
proposed siltation control program; low- and moderate -
income housing addressed; archaeological site pro-
tection; no parallel sewer proposed - construction to
depend upon timing of Reach 3 of the coast trunk line;
noise impacts; and issue of RV storage - preferably
with solution by project design.
Commissioner Bazil: Sewers - only viable solution is construction of
. Reach 3 as a condition of approval; 38th Street -
impact on traffic and drainage; drainage system -
Mr. Bazil noted that although this seems already to
have been answered it must be included in writing in
the EIR; park needs must be addressed.
Commissioner Cohen: 38th Street precise plan should be completed prior
to consideration of Seacliff IV; signalization where
required, paid for by the developer; parking must
comply with code; an alternative to draining the
project into the Bolsa Chica should be considered;
sewers should be started before the project is begun;
park requirements must be met; location of Product
C closest to the Bolsa Chica should be re-evaluated;
and interior streets must meet all turning radius re-
quirements of the Fire Department.
Commissioner Finley: The proposed linear park must be addressed; the
location of Product C nearest the bluff line -may
adversely impact that linear park in the future.
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ON MOTION BY STERN AND SECOND BY PAONE THE COMMISSION DETERMINED TO
RECONSIDER REVISED RESOLUTION NO. 1237, AN ALIGNMENT FOR 38TH STREET,
BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Russell, Stern, Finley, Cohen, Bazil, Paone
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Higgins
ON MOTION BY STERN AND SECOND BY BAZIL THE COMMISSION ADOPTED REVISED
RESOLUTION NO. 1237, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Russell, Stern, Finley, Cohen, Bazil, Paone
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Higgins
THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING NOVEMBER
21, 1978, AT 7:00 PM.
Meeting adjourned at 12:45 p.m.
James W. Palin Ruth Finley, Chairman
Acting Secretary
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