HomeMy WebLinkAbout1979-02-27Approved March 20, 1979
MINUTES
JOINT MEETING
HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
AND
HUNTINGTON BEACH REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
Room B-8 - Civic Center
2000 Main Street
Huntington Beach, California
TUESDAY, February 27, 1979 - 7:00 P.M.
PLANNING COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Higgins, Russell, Stern, Finley,
Cohen, Bazil, Paone
REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Milkovich, Jean, Harman
REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Andreassen
Secretary Palin noted that the Redevelopment Commission did not
have a quorum and would be sitting in an informal session.
THE MEETING WAS CALLED TO ORDER.
NOTE: A TAPE RECORDING OF THIS MEETING IS ON FILE IN THE
PLANNING DEPARTMENT OFFICE.
DISCUSSION•
PRESENTATION OF SENIOR CITIZEN HOUSING PROPOSALS FOR OLD CIVIC CENTER
SITE
Secretary Jim Palin addressed the Commission and stated that the
purpose of the joint meeting was to review presentations of pro-
posals for the Senior Citizen Housing by the four proponents as
requested by the City Council. He further stated that no formal
action was requested at this meeting, but that the Commissions
were to receive information as presented by the proponents and
carried over to March 13, 1979 for further discussion and subse-
quent recommendation to the City Council.
Mr. Stephen Kohler, Senior Community Development Specialist,
addressed the Commission and presented chronology of the proposed
project. He stated that the concept was first originated in late
1977, with the overall objective of creating affordable senior citizen
housing stock by the use of local resources and achieving imple-
mentation of the proposal with minimum delay. Mr. Kohler further
stated that the City Council took action on September 18, 1978 to
use the Old Civic Center Site for senior citizen and affordable
housing, at which time 80 requests for proposal were distributed
to various companies. Thirteen proposals were received by the
deadline of December 22, 1978. The criteria under which the
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Tuesday, February 27, 1979
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proposals were reviewed were that the project should provide 150-200
units of affordable housing, a new senior recreation facility con-
sisting of approximately 10,000 square feet, and improvement to
the existing library or the erection of a new one. This was to be
accomplished by a combination of local resources. HCD block grant
funds of $100,000 (which was to be used for the library) and subsidy
funds from the federal government.
Mr. Kohler reported that the thirteen proposals submitted varied widely
and that four were chosen for consideration. He introduced Mr. Robert
Snow from Urban Projects, who is working with the City in a consulting
capacity to assist with the review of the projects. Mr. Kohler then
outlined the order of presentations by the four chosen proponents.
He further stated that the Commissions would be provided with a
narrative of the four projects prior to the scheduled March 13,
1978 joint study session. Mr. Kohler then requested the four pro-
ponents to leave the Council Chambers and stated that they would be
called upon in alphabetical order to give their presentations, allowing
each a time limit of 30 minutes.
GOLDRICH-KEST ASSOCIATES
Mr. Manny Aftergut, representing the proponent, was present and addres-
sed the Commissions. He stated that it was his intention to highlight
the outstanding features of their proposal. Mr. Aftergut stated that
in general their goal in submitting a proposal to the City of Huntington
Beach was to be as responsive as possible to the request for proposal.
He outlined the major components of the proposal as follows:
135 units; 125 one -bedrooms, 10 two -bedrooms
3 story, wood frame
51 subterranean parking spaces
$4,390,000 total cost; $32,500 per unit
SB 99 financing; tax exempt
Goldrich Kest is the most active HUD developer in California;
most active Section 8 HUD developer.
Highly bankable
A copy of a compilation of other projects completed for HUD by
Goldrich-Kest was distributed to the Commission totalling $45 million
in construction of FHA insured Section 8 developments. Mr. Aftergut
then introduced Mr. Marvin Bergman, Design Architect, to the Commissions.
Mr. Bergman, architect for the proposal, outlined for the Commissions
the design methodology and architectural details of the proposal by
use of architectural renderings. He proposed a facelift for the
library compatible with the Recreation Center and Senior Housing
Project. He stressed the use of ample glass throughout the project
to allow residents a view of landscaped areas wherever possible.
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Tuesday, February 27, 1979
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Mr. Bergman further stated that the design concept of the proposal
was to link with the recently constructed Huntington Beach Civic
Center. The size of the one -bedroom units proposed are all 575
square feet with balconies and small planter boxes. The two
bedroom units are proposed to be 850 square feet with their own
balcony. A small commercial center (grocery store) is proposed
in the residential part of the project.
Mr. Bill O'Conner, the Vice President of the Bond Counsel firm of
Leab, Robbs, Hornblower & Walker, addressed the Commissions and
discussed the use of SB 99 financing. Mr. O'Connor stated that
his firm was a leader in California in SB 99 financing. He said
that the proposal by Goldrich-Kest was entirelv feasible for such
financing, and that this could be achieved without need of the
Redevelopment process.
Mr. Aftergut addressed the Commissions again and stated that it
was his intention to develop all 135 units as subsidized under the
Section 8 program; this would not require annexation into the
redevelopment area. Mr. Aftergut concluded by stating the following
goals:
. a good senior project for development
high quality management (Goldrich-Kest)
• good supplier of funds
door open to other financing
At the end of the other three presentations, Goldrich-Kest was alloted
another 15 minutes time, due to the change in ground rules whereby
proponents were allowed 45 minutes time rather than the originally
alloted 30 minutes.
Mr. Bergman, the architect, presented further renderings of the
site plan and elevations with more specific details.
WILLIAM LYON COMPANY
Mr. Brian Norkaidis, Project Manager of the Lyon Company, addressed
the Commission. He stated that he was pleased to be selected as a
finalist in the Senior Housing Complex. He complimented the staff
on a fine site selection with excellent possibilities to meet the
need of the City. He further stated that a great deal of time
and money had been exhausted on -the proposal by the William Lyon
Company, whose Chairman of the Board is Bill Lyon. Mr. Norkaidis
outlined the major components of the proposal as follows:
William Lyon Company is currently the number 1 builder in Orange
County (has always been #1 to 4)
has recently built 1000 units in Huntington Beach (still retaining
ownership) - would like to retain ownership of proposal
SK Management (selected for management of units) is familiar with
family and senior citizen type of units.
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Tuesday, February 27, 1979
Page Four
Housing Concepts are selected as the coordinating processor due
to their expertise in assisted housing.
Mr. Reed Flory addressed the Commissions in response to the RFP. Mr.
Flory stated that in this type of proposal various areas of expertise
must be utilized due to design intricacies. He further stated that
both market rate and subsidized Mousing for the elderly could be
provided, or if desired, 100 percent assisted housing could be provided.
Mr. Flory further stated that the William Lyon Company is aware of
our economic times and thereforeiproposes that the senior citizen
facility could maintain itself partly by income to be derived from
the development of a commercial facility on the site operated by
resident seniors. i
Mr. John Cotton of Kamitizer, Cotton, Vreeland, Architects; then
addressed the Commissions and stated that the proposal was to have
a Mediterranean architecture. He described the major components as
follows:
. 115,000 to 175,000 square feet of housing area
proposing three story residential units
. 54 to 60 parking spaces for residential area
a unique public pedestrian system
Mr. Cotton then presented an overall site plan for Commissions to view,
depicting roof gardens, trellis work, and solar collecting panels. He
then presented various other architectural drawings and a model for
Commissions viewing depicting'the proposal in greater detail.
Some slides of the model were shown. Methods of financing and length
of time for completion of the proposal were then discussed. Mr.
Cotton, in answer to Commissioner Stern's question, stated that the
one bedroom apartments proposed were to be between 540 and 560 square
feet, the efficiency units - 420 square feet, and the two -bedroom
units between 850 and 900 square feet. Mr. Cotton concluded by in-
forming the Commissions that CHFA financing was proposed and that
money should be available on demand.
RING BROTHERS
Mr. Charles Ring, of Ring Borthers, addressed the Commissions. Mr.
Ring outlined for the Commissions the type of work Ring Brothers has
done in the past and how it would relate to the Senior Citizen pro-
posal. He distributed booklets to Commission members depicting work
completed by his company. He further stated that his company had
not developed a project solely for senior citizens; however, they
are affiliated with an architectural firm whose experience and
expertise lies in senior housing. Mr. Ring stated that it was his
intention for the development to look as good twenty years from now
as it would look brand new.
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Tuesday, February 27, 1979
Page Five
Mr. Gary Thompson, Vice President of Planning for Ring Brothers,
addressed the Commission. Mr. Thompson presented slides of various
projects completed by his company to demonstrate how site work was
handled in relatively high density projects by utilizing flowing
water, landscaping and placement of buildings. He stressed the
importance of garden courts, with every courtyard being treated
in a special way for warmth and interest and provision of privacy
and a general good feeling; the use of overhead design structures;
placement of trees; the use of colors, textures, and wood tones
for warmth in design; and variations in architecture to link several
floors and activities for the general enhancement of open activity
areas and living areas.
Mr. Vito Cetta addressed the Commissions and outlined the design
methodology and architectural details of the proposal by use of
architectural renderings.
Mr. Scott addressed the Commissions and related his experience with
elderly housing from the East Coast. He stated that Ring Brothers
was proposing an interesting design wherein the encouragement of
communication among residents is an important element. He stated
such uses as a cleaners, a lunch counter, and beauty shop were
proposed as part of the commercial portion of the project. He
further stated that the existing palm trees were to remain, and at
most ten trees may be relocated.
Mr. Cetta addressed the Commissions again and stated that one half
of the 179 units proposed were to be two -bedrooms to allow more
people accommodations. However, if the City was desirous of all
one bedroom units, as many as 210 could be provided. He further
stated that the one bedroom units were proposed to be 532 square
feet and the two bedroom units 760 square feet.
Mr. Bob Smith, President of Ring Brothers Management, addressed the
Commissions and gave great detail of Ring Brothers' experience in
management of units.
Mr. Jim Saunders, Vice President Controller of Ring Brothers addres-
sed the Commissions and discussed financing proposed. He stated
that the company had dealt with leading banking institutions for
many years, and has been currently dealing with Union Bank. In
conclusion, Mr. Saunders stated that the method of financing the
proposal would be conventional type of financing.
In answer to Commissioner Milkovich's question, Mr. Thompson said
that the $100,000 allocated by the City was to be utilized for a
complete facelift of the existing library.
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Tuesday, February 27, 1979
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Mr. Thompson concluded by stating the following goals:
Ring Brothers time and commitment important element in terms
of social consideration.
design to capabilities of 100 percent subsidized
always open to input and ideas to enhance plan which has been
thoroughly thought out.
flexibility in projected rent.
THE TOMAN COMPANY
Mr. Warren Toman, President of the Toman Company, addressed the
Commissions and presented a background of the Toman Company. He
stated that he has had much experience in senior citizen housing
from projects completed in the Rancho Bernardo retirement area.
Mr. Toman then presented slides of developments that the Toman
Company had completed. Mr. Toman introduced Richard Coleman,
who was selected as the architect for the proposed project and
briefly described his qualifications and completed projects.
Mr. Richard Coleman, architect, addressed the Commissions, and out-
lined the land planning and design of units as proposed by the
Toman Company. He explained the premise of the design as a land
plan with basic through low cost housing, a library, and senior
center all having a different relationship to the daily use by
residents. He stated that he proposes the library and senior
center to be separated with a parking lot from the senior housing.
The parking lot is proposed to hold 80 cars and is to be utilized
by the residential part of the proposal; it will also serve as
a visual buffer between the senior housing and public section of the
project.
Mr. Coleman further outlined for the Commissions the design method-
ology and architectural details of the proposal by use of architectural
renderings, which detailed the library face lift, the senior center,
and the units themselves. He further detailed the courtyards in
the residential section, which are provided with jacuzzi, gazebo,
lath house, -etc. creating ample landscaping for residents to utilize.
Mr. Coleman further detailed the residential units, including ample
laundry facilities, ample elevators, and the provision of:
. 25 studio apartments - 470 square feet
. 130 one -bedroom units - 620 square feet
, 39 two -bedroom units - 770 square feet
Mr. Coleman stated that the square footage of the proposed units was
greater than average and that every unit will be able to be utilized
by a handicapped person with each unit containing its own balcony.
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Tuesday, February 27, 1979
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The senior citizen center is proposed to be integrated with the
existing library, to enable kitchen use to be shared between the
two buildings. The senior center was designed to blend in archi-
tecturally with the existing library, utilizing the same color
scheme, and skylights are proposed in the senior center as a solar
collector system. The existing palm trees are proposed to remain,
with the exception of a few that may need to be relocated.
Mr. Toman addressed the Commissions again summing up his proposal by
stating that it was difficult to condense many working hours in a
few minutes, but hoped that his proposal would be taken into con-
sideration. He further stated that the proposal has total flexi-
bility and welcomed input from Commissions and staff members.
In answer to Commissioner Stern's question regarding financing,
Mr. Toman said that he proposes conventional financing on the open
market. In reply to Commissioner Higgins question as to management
of the completed project, Mr. Toman said that he would contract
that portion of the development to an outside firm.
The proponents for the Toman Company left the Council Chambers.
Commissioner Milkovich asked the result of the testing done under
the old Police Station where concrete had been filled at one time.
Mr. Palin stated that the slurry poured did not solidify and subse-
quently was all removed when the Old Civic Center was demolished.
Commissioner Higgins complimented the staff on an outstanding job
done and further felt -that the City Council should be made aware of
this.
Commissioners were polled as to their availability for the contin-
uation of this meeting to March 13, 1979. Staff was directed to
display the renderings of the four proponents in a safe, locked,
room to be viewed by Commission members individually.
MEETING WAS ADJOURNED.
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Ruth Finley, Chairman
Planning Commission