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April 3, 1979
MINUTES
JOINT MEETING
HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
AND
HUNTINGTON BEACH REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
TUESDAY, MARCH 13, 1979 - 7:00 P.M.
PLANNING COMMISSIONERS PRESENT:
Room B-8 - Civic Center
2000 Main Street
Huntington Beach, California
Higgins, Russell, Cohen, Paone
PLANNING COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Stern, Finley, Bazil
REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Milkovich, Jean, Harman,
Andreassen
REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: None
Secretary Palin noted that a quorum was present for each Commission.
Secretary Palin entertained nominations for Chairman Pro Tempore
due to the absence of both the Chairman and the Vice Chairman of the
Planning Commission.
Commissioner Paone nominated Commissioner Higgins as Chairman Pro
Tempore. There being no further nominations, Secretary Palin closed
the nominations and called for the vote:
AYES:
Russell, Cohen, Paone
NOES:
None
ABSENT:
Finley, Stern, Bazil
ABSTAIN:
Higgins
Commissioner Higgins assumed the role of Chairman Pro Tempore of the
Planning Commission.
PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION:
RECONSIDERATION OF USE PERMIT NO. 78-73 AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO.
79-554
Applicant: James L. Foxx
To permit a lot line adjustment and the remodeling of an existing
structure and the construction of a new structure on contiguous
properties located on the northwest corner of 17th Street and
Olive Avenue.
Minutes; HOB, Planning & Redevelopment Commissions
Tuesday, March 13, 1979
Page Two
Secretary Palin gave a brief history of the two proposals stating
that the Planning Commission had sustained the Board of Zoning
Adjustments in its denial of the applications at its March 6,
1979 meeting. However, in light of another meeting with the
applicant, he is proposing to revise his plans to meet Ordinance
Code requirements.
ON MOTION BY RUSSELL AND SECOND BY COHEN USE PERMIT NO. 78-73
AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO. 79-554 WERE RECONSIDERED BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Russell, Cohen
NOES: None
ABSENT: Stern, Finley, Bazil
ABSTAIN: Paone
Commissioner Paone noted that he is withdrawing his previous abstention
and will participate in the discussion and vote on these items, since
further investigation has determined that no conflict of interest exists.
John O'Connor, Deputy City Attorney, made the Commission aware
that the applications could be continued to a future date.
Commissioner Cohen suggested a postponement of the applications
to allow the full Commission to be present.
Secretary Palin advised the Commission that the applicant's revised
plan reflects Ordinance Code conformance in that the use of a
reciprocal easement has been integrated into the plan. To satisfy
the requirement of a one space reduction in parking, the applicant
has proposed to reduce the building size to 4,500 square feet, which
now makes it a viable building for the site. Two alternatives were
presented by the applicant with overlays shown, and it was the
staff's suggestion that the plan incorporating the reciprocal
easement be chosen by the Commission. Staff concurred with pro-
posed lot split which would eliminate a three (3) foot area that
would be existing between the new building and the existing struc-
ture. Elevations were to remain as depicted; however, the increase
in the second floor plaza area would be changed, and it was sug-
gested that a condition of approval be imposed that the building
square footage on lots 1 and 3 be reduced to 4,500 square feet.
Further Commission discussion ensued.
ON MOTION BY RUSSELL AND SECOND BY COHEN TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP
NO. 79-554 WAS APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS,
BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO. 79-554 - FINDINGS
1. The consolidation of four lots into two parcels for purposes
of developing a commercial office complex is in compliance with
the size and shape of property necessary for that type of
development.
2. The General Plan has set forth provisions for this type of land
use as well as setting forth objectives for implementation of
this type of use.
Minutes: H.B. Planning & Redevelopment Commissions
Tuesday, March 13, 1979
Page Three
3. The property was previously studied for this intensity of land
use at the time the land use designation for General Commercial,
which allows commercial office buildings, was placed on subject
property.
4. The size, depth, frontage, street width, and other design and
improvement features of the proposed subdivision are proposed
to be constructed in compliance with standard plans and specifi-
cations on file with the City as well as in compliance with the
State Map Act and supplemental City Subdivision Ordinance.
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO. 79-554 - CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
A. TO BE COMPLETED PRIOR TO USE OR OCCUPANCY OF SAID PARCELS FOR
ANY PURPOSE:
1. The tentative parcel map received by the Planning Department
on January 29, 1979, shall be the approved layout.
2. A parcel map shall be filed with, and approved by, the Depart-
ment of Public Works, and recorded with the Orange County
Recorder.
3. The Alley and street radius of 17th and Olive Streets shall
be dedicated to City standards at the time said parcels are
developed.
4. A copy of the recorded parcel map shall be filed with the
Planning Department.
5. Vehicular access rights on 17th Street shall be dedicated
to the City of Huntington Beach.
6. Parking space located on Lot 3 adjacent to Lot 5 shall be
the parking space designated for Lot 5 use. An easement shall
be recorded prior to the issuance of building permits desig-
nating said parking space, ingress/egress and pedestrian access
to accommodate this parking arrangement.
AYES: Higgins, Russell, Cohen, Paone
NOES: None
ABSENT: Stern, Finley, Bazil
ON MOTION BY RUSSELL AND SECOND BY COHEN USE PERMIT NO. 78-73 WAS
APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS, BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
Minutes: H.B. Planning & Redevelopment Commissions
Tuesday, March 13, 1979
Page Four
USE PERMIT NO. 78-73 - FINDINGS
1. The establishment, maintenance, and operation of the use will not
be detrimental to:
a. The general welfare of persons residing or working in the
vicinity;
b. Property and improvements in the vicinity of such use or
building.
2. The granting of a Use Permit will not adversely affect the
General Plan of the City of Huntington Beach.
3. The proposal is consistent with the City's General Plan of
Land Use.
USE PERMIT NO. 78-73 - CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL:
A. TO BE COMPLETED PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF BUILDING PERMITS:
1. The conceptual plot plan and elevations received March 2,
1979, shall be the approved layout, subject to the modifi-
cations described herein:
a. Building located on lots 1 and 3 shall be reduced to a
total of 4,500 square feet.
b. The revised parking layout submitted and reviewed by the
Planning Commission on March 13, 1979, shall be the
approved parking layout.
2. The following plans shall be submitted to the Secretary of
the Board:
a. Landscape and irrigation plan complying with Article 979
of the Huntington Beach Ordinance Code and landscaping
specifications on file in the Department of Public Works.
b. Rooftop mechanical equipment screening plan. Said plan
shall indicate screening of all rooftop mechanical
equipment and shall delineate the type of material
proposed to screen said equipment.
B. GENERAL CONDITIONS:
1. The driveway approaches along 17th Street shall be removed.
2. If a lot line adjustment is proposed, a tentative parcel map
shall be filed and approved prior to the issuance of building
permits. Final parcel map shall be recorded Drior to
certificate of occupancy being granted.
Minutes: H.B. Planning & Redevelopment Commissions
Tuesday, March 13, 1979
Page Five
AYES: Higgins, Russell, Cohen, Paone
NOES: None
ABSENT: Stern, Finley, Bazil
Mr. Warren James, representative for James Foxx, was present and
addressed the Commission. He requested withdrawal of Conditional
Exception No. 79-4, due to the fact that his proposal was now
in conformance with the Ordinance Code. Commission concurred
with withdrawal.
PLANNING COMMISSION AND REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION DISCUSSION:
FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF SENIOR HOUSING AND RECREATION FACILITIES
AT OLD CIVIC CENTER SITE
Stephen Kohler addressed the Commission and suggested that after
further review and interviews with the proponents, the Commissions
make their recommendations to the City Council. Also, Mr. Snow
from Urban Projects was present to answer any questions the Com-
missions might have. Mr. Kohler suggested that at the conclusion
of each proponent's presentation and appropriate interview period,
they be allowed to leave the building. Again, the proponents will
be called in alphabetical order as had been done' previously.
Mr. Snow addressed the Commissions and stated that he had prepared
a memo evaluating each proponent's financial aspects and how they
differ from each other.. He qualified his memo by stating that
the figures presented are not final estimates but are rough
guidelines for initial feasibility. Mr. Snow then reviewed each
of the four proponent's financial proposals and gave the Commissions
some direction on what explanations and what further clarifications
are necessary to present a clearer overall view of the proposals,
namely different methods of financing and the feasibility of each.
Commissioner Milkovich questioned Mr. Snow regarding potential
referendum and Mr. Snow cited two examples. In the Ring Brothers
proposal, 49 percent, or 88 units, will be reserved for Section 8
certificate holders, less than a majority of the total project
and therefore, not subject to Article XXXIV. In the Toman Company
proposal, 100 units were made available to existing Section 8
certificate holders, comprising over 50 percent of the project and
bringing in the question of Article XXXIV referendum.
Mr. Milkovich further inquired about the handicapped requirements
in the residential portion of the proposal. It was noted that
ten percent of handicapped units is acceptable. Mr. Kohler
stated that the proponents had been made aware of this percentage.
Mr. Kohler, in answer to Commissioner Milkovich's question regarding
off-street parking, stated that the parking ratio of one space
per three units had been adopted from previous experience, in-
cluding the Wycliffe Gardens project. Earthquake standards were
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Page Six
discussed and it was concluded that the City must abide by the
1976 Uniform Building Code, and all requirements of that code
must be adhered to.
c4 GOLDRICH KEST
Mr. Manny Aftergut and Mr. Bergman, Design Architect were present.
Mr. Bergman addressed himself to the commercial component of the
proposal. He stated that parking could be provided for the com-
mercial use; however, it was not his intention to create a retail
success, rather the proposal was directed towards providing com-
mercial services in the absence of such uses in the surrounding
neighborhood. The developer was willing to abandon said on -site
services once they were established elsewhere in the immediate
area.
Mr. Aftergut was asked if he could provide units in addition to
the proposed 135 units. In answer, Mr. Aftergut stated that
four additional units could be provided if the commercial aspect
of the proposal were abandoned, and a total of 22 additional units
could be provided if the building configuration were altered.
Additional sketches of potential completion of the project were
presented. In answer to Commissioner Russell's question, Mr.
Aftergut said that his company did not intend to run the commer-
cial portion, but would explore using the expertise of a qualified
entrepreneur.
In regard to time estimates, Mr. Aftergut stated that not counting
underlying aspects, setting up financing would require approximately
4 to 6 months, and completion of the project 12 months after financing
is secured. Loans and interest rates and their availability in
future time was discussed.
Mr. Bergman reviewed the renderings where the additional units
were to be placed, and vehicular traffic between library and
balance of project was discussed.
In answer to Commissioner Harman's question regarding an increase
in operating expense; Mr. Aftergut said that the burden of additional
expense would be funded partly by HUD and partly absorbed by the
tenant. Mr. Aftergut then addressed himself to the security system
of the residential portion of the project and detailed the exact
security system to be provided.
Commissioner Higgins questioned the proponent as to whether alter-
native financing has been explored. Mr. Aftergut noted that a project
of this magnitude was not financible under conventional financing, and
expressed certainty that some type.of governmental financing was
necessary, citing the SB 99 program as the most feasible.
Minutes: H.B. Planning & Redevelopment Commissions
Tuesday, March 13, 1979
Page Seven
In answer to Commissioner Cohen's question as to what this
project would cost the City, Mr. Aftergut answered that staff
time would be the greatest expense burden on the City.
Secretary Palin asked the proponent what he had proposed after
the expiration of the 55 year lease. Mr. Aftergut stated that
after 55 years, the improvements would revert back to the City.
In answer to how taxes were computed, Mr. Aftergut said that
the evaluation was made at Proposition 13 rates, and he is
not assuming tax relief and would pay taxes based upon the
possessory interest value on the ground lease and improvements.
Mr. Snow asked the proponent, in the event there was a time delay
in the acquisition of SB 99 or CHFA financing, he would be
willing to commence with construction utilizing interim financing
until the SB 99 issue can be resolved. Mr. Aftergut stated that
the firm would be willing to use interim financing, depending
on the technicality of acquiring the SB 99 or CHFA financing.
Chairman Pro Tempore Higgins thanked the proponents for Gold -
rich Kest for time and effort spent on their proposal.
THE LYON COMPANY
Mr. Brian Norcadias and Mr. Cotton were present to represent the
proponent. Commissioner Milkovich questioned the inclusion of
the clock tower, and Mr. Cotton stated that it was used purely
as a sculptural aspect and will be utilized only if affordable.
Architectural lines in respect to roofs were discussed and it
was noted that the roof textures are proposed to be tied together
with color and landscaping. In answer to whether to add or
delete units to the proposa, Mr. Norcadias stated that he was
comfortable with the number of units proposed and did not wish
to alter that aspect of the proposal.
In answer to Commissioner Russell's question as to whether a
profit could still be made after one year operation, Mr.
Norcadias stated that increase in costs ties in with rents and
that over a period of time rents would be increased; however,
the proposal is still projected to be feasible. Mr. Norcadias
apprised the Commissions that the proposal reflects current
realistic construction costs and that he is looking forward to
mid -summer 1980 occupancy. Actual construction was projected
to require approximately nine months. Coastal Commission ap-
proval is not expected to be a problem; however, Mr. Norcadias
stated that City support would help in obtaining such approval
in approximately 6 to 8 weeks. Mr. Cotton also emphasized the
importance of community support when the project is presented
to the Coastal Commission. Mr. Cotton detailed the handicapped
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Tuesday, March 13, 1979
Page Eight
facilities in all aspects of the proposal for the Commissions.
He further detailed the commercial aspect where a pharmacy,
coffee shop, beauty shop, etc. are proposed for the service
of the residents in the complex. Mr. Cotton then described
the handicapped facilities in the residential portion of the
project and pointed out that all handicapped facilities will
be developed to HUD standards.
Commissioner Cohen questioned the type of financing to be utilized
by the developer. Mr. Norcadias outlined their proposed financing
as attempting to achieve his goals of maximum assisted units and
keeping rent as low as possible. 49 percent CHFA and 51 percent
existing Section 8 certificate holder occupancy is proposed,
thereby creating 100 percent assisted rental units. Mr. Norcadias
further stated that this proposal would not entail any hidden
expenses to the City of Huntington Beach other than what is indi-
cated in their proposal.
In answer to Commissioner Harman's question, Mr. Norcadias summed
up the facelift proposed for the existing library with details
depicted on the rendering.
Commissioner Harman expressed concern over the perimeter wall
being too extensive for the project. Mr. Cotton stated that
they were attempting to provide something physical to tie the
project together; however, there is a great deal of flexibility
in the proposal. The security system was explained in detail
by Mr. Cotton.
In answer to Commissioner Higgins' questions regarding availabiltiy
of CHFA financing, Mr. Norcadias stated that he foresees no short-
age of available funds for this fiscal year and if for any reason
CHFA financing could not be provided, the Lyon Company would pursue
conventional financing at that time.
Secretary Palin asked the proponent what he plans after the
expiration of the 55 year lease as to ownership of the structure
and the possessory interest as far as taxes are concerned and
whether the rent structure takes this possessory interest into
consideration. Mr. Norcadias stated that ownership would revert
to City and tax allowances have been included.
Mr. Norcadias detailed dispersement of green and open space, arts
and crafts area, and other recreational facilities proposed.
The proponent was asked whether, if there was a delay with
financing in this pilot program, he would be willing to continue
with construction while the referendum issue was being resolved.
Mr. Norcadias indicated that he anticipated no extensive delay
in theproject; however, if there were delays, he was willing
to go forward without full authorization on the government
financing.
Commissioner Higgins thanked the Lyon Company for their time and
effort spent on this outstanding proposal.
Minutes: H.B. Planning & Redevelopment Commissions
Tuesday, March 13, 1979
Page Nine
RING BROTHERS
Mr. Gary Thompson was present for the proponent. He stated that
he had submitted additional information to staff regarding a
breakdown of construction costs. He further introduced Mr. ,
Cetta, the architect, and Mr. Saunders, Comptroller for his firm.
Commissioner Milkovich questioned the proponent as to the reason
for the, number of two -bedroom units proposed. Mr. Thompson stated
that it would be more economically feasible for two people sharing
a two bedroom apartment, than one person having his own apartment.
However, if desirable, three one -bedroom apartments could be
placed where now two two -bedroom units are proposed. Mr. Thompson
further stated that through experience, two bedroom units were
highly sought after for these economic reasons. Mr. Cetta
addressed the Commissions and noted that in the two -bedroom units,
each bedroom has its own private bath, and this would make the
units more desirable.
Commissioner Milkovich stated concern over the long residential
corridor as proposed. Mr. Thompson recognized the problem and
indicated that the proposal was only in the drawing stage and
would require further improvement.
The proponent was questioned as to what type of financing was pro-
posed for the project. Mr. Saunders addressed the Commissions and
presented the proposed financing. He stated that his firm was not
proposing any type of take out financing but that financing is
proposed to be in two phases; 1) a construction loan, and 2) long-
term financing that would be secured at the best possible rate
during the construction time. Mr. Saunders further clarified
that Ring Brothers had been using Union Bank for the financing
of various projects, and assured the Commissions of their repu-
tation and credit line in the financing aspect. In terms of
higher costs in the future, Mr. Saunders stated that the firm
was willing to hold costs in the foreseeable future; however,
he could not guarantee costs in the long-term. Ring Brothers
could respond quickly and make rapid commitments to secure and
protect financing available to them by Union Bank at a 13 percent
construction loan. If at a future point a financial problem
occurs, Ring Brothers would be willing to syndicate the project
at that time to protect the commitment.
In answer to Commissioner Jean's question regarding construction
time, Mr. Saunders stated that Ring Brothers would be ready to
start construction within three months, with the actual con-
struction time being 9 to 12 months.
Mr. Thompson detailed the facelift for the library. He stated
that the existing structure is a viable one and that improvements
would be made to lighting, ceiling, and proposed other architectural
facelifts. He indicated his experience with interior design but
concluded that the structure will basically remain the same with
ample improvements.
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Tuesday, March 13, 1979
Page Ten
In answer to Commissioner Russell's question regarding what would
happen if Coastal Commission feels not enough low and moderate
income housing is included in the proposal, Mr. Saunders stated
that until the Coastal Commission approves the project, Ring
Brothers won't really know what conditions will be imposed. If
the Coastal Commission did put contingencies on the project,
amenities could be reduced and income could be equated to
expenses.
In answer to Commissioner Russell's question regarding profit,
Mr. Saunders stated that if his firm is selected, the City can
stipulate the amount of subsidized units to be provided in the
project and a method of controlling changes in the rent structure
could be provided in the lease agreement. An arrangement can be
stipulated in the final lease agreement whereby profit will be
returned into the project.. Profit margin could be stipulated
and profit over and above an agreed upon return on the investment
could be turned back into the project. Mr. Saunders did not
preclude government financing on the project. However, he
attempted to minimize time delays.
In answer to Commissioner Cohen's question regarding why conven-
tional financing was chosen rather than governmental financing,
Mr. Saunders stated that through conventional financing, the
project could commence immediately. He further stated that
governmental programs took as much as 18 to 24 months for approval.
Commissioner Andreassen questioned the social and physical ameni-
ties of the project, i.e., size of open space, etc. Mr. Cetta
outlined the open space areas and further detailed the recreation
aspects of the project.
Secretary Palin asked the proponent what he had proposed after
the expiration of the 55 year lease as to ownership of the
structure and the possessory interest as far as taxes are con-
cerned and whether the rent structure takes this possessory
interest into consideration. Mr. Saunders stated that the project
would assume City ownership after 55 years and that rent structures
did take into consideration possessory interest tax.
Mr. Thompson concluded by stating that he was willing to work with
Commissions and staff to comprise a plan of which the City would
be proud.
Commissioner Higgins thanked Ring Brothers for their time and
effort placed into their fine proposal.
THE TOMAN COMPANY
Mr. Warren Toman addressed the Commissions and introduced Mr.
Rick Coleman and Mr. Dean as part of his team.
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Tuesday, March 13, 1979
Page Eleven
Commissioner Paone questioned the proponent whether his proposed
parking layout has flexibility. Mr. Toman stated that it was
his intention to separate the senior citizen residential portion
of the project from the highly active senior center and library.
Mr. Coleman, the design architect, further discussed the parking
situation pointing out that more parking than required had been
provided. He further said that it was their intent to keep the
cost of the project down, and therefore, felt that parking
location from a functional point of view, would keep the resi-
dential portion isolated from the daytime use of the library
and senior recreation center. However, more green open space
could be provided in lieu of the parking and perhaps by the
elimination of some units if so desired.
Commissioner Paone questioned why the proponent had not proposed
any commercial for the project. Mr. Toman stated that due to
sufficient commercial in the surrounding neighborhood, the
proposal did not require on -site commercial uses, and therefore,
the space could be put to more important uses such as additional
units.
In response to Commissioner Milkovich's question whether the
proponent has someone in mind to manage the units, Mr. Toman
stated that he has chosen Monarch Management Firm, which is
a small personalized firm, to manage the units.
It was noted that the studio apartments proposed had no eating
area. Mr. Coleman stated that by rearranging the furniture, an
eating area could be provided, and if desired, the kitchen bar
top could be lowered to accommodate regular chairs. The pro-
ponents were further questioned as to what sound attenuation is
provided between several of the studio units and the subterranean
parking. Mr. Coleman said that the units would be divided by a
2-1/2 foot deep storage area providing two walls between the
units and cars, and that any anticipated sound problem could be
handled at the time of construction of the wall.
Commissioner Cohen asked when would construction commence if
the Toman Company were chosen. Mr. Toman answered that normal
construction time would run about 9 to 12 months. Mr. Toman
further stated in regard to rental and construction costs pro-
jections, that the rental rates in the future should remain
stable if the economy flatens out.
Mr. Snow asked the proponent whether the project will still
be feasible as proposed if costs rise during the construdtion.
Mr. Toman stated that it would be feasible since he is allowinq
a cushion of 10 to 15 nercent increase. He was -proposing that
on a project of this size an 18 month construction loan would be
secured, which would give approximately two years time to secure
a lower interest conventional loan for remainder of construction.
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Page Twelve
Mr. Toman further indicated that if it is the desire of the City
to commence financing through CHFA, that would be the type of
financing the Toman Company would secure; however, the project
could commence at a much more rapid pace if conventional financing
were utilized.
Secretary Palin asked the proponent what he had proposed after
the expiration of the 55 year lease as to ownership of the
structure and the possessory interest as far as taxes are con-
cerned and whether the rent structure takes this possessory
interest into consideration. Mr. Toman stated that at this
time, the City would not assume the lease after 55 years, and
that this point would affect the proposal; the use tax would
be included into the economics.
Commissioner Andreassen questioned the proponent as to what
activities were provided in the open space areas and what is
the square footage of the green area. Mr. Coleman described
the recreational activities, i.e., jacuzzi, barbecue, gazebo,
potting shed, greenhouse, etc. and calculated the open space
green area as approximately 35,000 square feet.
Mr. Toman concluded by stating that it was their intention to
stay with the criteria as outlined as closely as possible and
that his company had the staff time, ability, and the desire
to work with staff to create a viable project.
Commissioner Higgins thanked the Toman Company for a good
proposal to the Senior Citizen Housing Project.
COMMISSIONS DISCUSSION:
Secretary Palin suggested that the Commissions evaluate the
proposals and recommend one or two choices to the City Council,
with a preference. Commission discussion ensued. It was
the consensus of the Commissions that the William Lyon Company
far surpasses all others.
ON MOTION BY RUSSELL AND SECOND BY PAONE, THE WILLIAM LYON COMPANY
WAS SELECTED AS FIRST CHOICE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS BEING
THE PROPONENT FOR THE SENIOR CITIZEN HOUSING PROJECT BY THE FOL-
LOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Russell, Cohen, Paone
NOES: None
ABSENT: Stern, Finley, Bazil
Secretary Palin stated that the three absent Planning Commissioners
(Stern, Finley, Bazil) had contacted him and wished to convey their
first choice as being the William Lyon Company. The three absent
Commissioners had indicated that they will submit written comments
to that affect.
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Page Thirteen
ON MOTION BY MILKOVICH AND SECOND BY ANDREASSEN, THE WILLIAM LYON
COMPANY WAS SELECTED AS FIRST CHOICE BY THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
AS BEING THE PROPONENT FOR THE SENIOR CITIZEN HOUSING PROJECT BY
THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Milkovich, Jean, Harman, Andreassen
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
The Chair entertained a motion for second choice. Commissioner
Paone preferred Ring Brothers as second choice due to their
proposals as to making the project economically feasible. It
was also noted that a portion of the Commission was impressed
with the financial clout of the Ring Brothers Company.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY PAONE AND SECONDED BY COHEN TO SELECT
RING BROTHERS AS THE SECOND CHOICE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION
FOR THE SENIOR CITIZEN HOUSING PROPOSAL.
Commissioner Russell expressed concern over a statement made
by Mr. Saunders, the Comptroller for Ring Brothers, that if the
project becomes financially unfeasible, the project would then
be syndicated (perhaps a cash buyer). Commissioner Russell
felt that the company lacked a commitment to the project and
the community.
Mr. Stephen Kohler clarified that Ring Brothers was brought into
the project at a later date and therefore, did not have the
same amount of time to develop their plan; therefore, time
had not permitted the pursuit of various other alternatives.
VOTE:
AYES: Paone, Higgins
NOES: Russell, Cohen
ABSENT: Stern, Finley, Bazil
THE MOTION FAILED.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY COHEN TO SELECT GOLDRICH KEST AS THE SECOND
CHOICE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE SENIOR CITIZEN HOUSING
PROPOSAL.
MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF SECOND.
ON MOTION BY ANDREASSEN AND SECOND BY HARMAN, THE RING BROTHERS
COMPANY WAS SELECTED BY THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AS BEING
THE SECOND CHOICE FOR THE SENIOR CITIZEN HOUSING PROJECT BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Milkovich, Harman, Andreassen, Jean
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
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Page Fourteen
It was the consensus of the Planning Commission to reconsider
their motion.
ON MOTION BY COHEN AND SECOND BY PAONE THE RING BROTHERS COMPANY
WAS SELECTED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS BEING THE SECOND CHOICE
FOR THE SENIOR CITIZEN HOUSING PROJECT BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Cohen, Paone
NOES: Russell
ABSENT: Stern, Finley, Bazil
It was the consensus of both the Planning Commission and the
Redevelopment Commission to inform the Council;that the Lyon
Company was selected as being a far superior proposal from the
other proponents.
Commissioner Russell stated that the reason he was not changing
his vote for second choice to the Ring Brothers Company was
that he felt they were not making a 55 year commitment to the
community.
Mr. Kohler then informed the Commissions that their recommendations
would be forwarded to the Council for their meeting of March 19th,
then setting a tentative date of March 26 for Council Questioning
of the proponent and perhaps April 2 for making their choice.
Mr. John O'Connor, Deputy City Attorney, stated that these pro-
posals have not been processed through the City Attorney's Office
as yet, and that legal aspects would have to be analyzed. Mr.
O'Connor stated that he would submit his comments to the City
Attorney, and that it was then her prerogative to transmit those
findings to the Council.
THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WAS ADJOURNED.
REVIEW OF FINDINGS FOR DENIAL OF ZONE CHANGE NO. 78-24
The findings of Zone Change No. 78-24 submitted by the Planning
Department for the Commission's review were discussed and approved.
Additional information for Zone Change 78-24 was discussed and it
was the consensus of the Planning Commission that the Council
should be made aware of the rationale of the Commission when it
approved the land use designation for this area in its consideration
of General Plan Amendment 79-1A.
ON MOTION BY PAONE AND SECOND BY HIGGINS STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO
INCLUDE IN THE TRANSMITTAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL THE COMMISSION'S
REASONS FOR PLACING AN M1 DESIGNATION ON THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION,
BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Cohen, Russell, Paone
NOES: None
ABSENT: Stern, Finley, Bazil
Minutes: H.B. Planning & Redevelopment Commissions
Tuesday, March 13, 1979
Page Fifteen
ON MOTION BY COHEN AND SECOND BY RUSSELL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED
AT 12:00 A.M. BY THE FOLLOWING NOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Cohen, Russell, Paone
NOES: None
ABSENT: Stern, Finley, Bazil
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