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MINUTES
HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
ADJOURNED MEETING
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 28, 1980 - 7:00 PM
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT:
Bannister, Kenefick, Winchell, Porter,
Schumacher, Bauer
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Greer
COASTAL ELEMENT TO THE GENERAL PLAN (Cont. from October 21, 1980)
Consideration of a Coastal Element, a State -mandated plan. The
element will be an addition_to the City's General Plan.
June Catalano suggested that a procedure be used at this hearing
which would permit first public input followed by Commission re-
view and discussion with straw votes being taken to guide the
staff in the preparation of the amended element and resolution.
These could then be brought back to the Commission at its next
regular meeting for formal action or continued again at the
discretion of the Commission. She informed the Commission that,
with the letters from the Edison Company and the Chamber of Com-
merce submitted to them at this meeting, all comments and input
received in regard to the element to date have been forwarded
for the Commission's consideration.
Chairman Porter questioned whether further discussion of the
wetlands area would be of relevance at this meeting, considering
the prior designation by the Coastal Commission.
Praveen Gupta of the Regional Coastal Commission staff explained
that in his understanding the designation as wetlands by the
Coastal Commission leaves the City no other choice but to carry
that designation in its Coastal Element. He further noted that
the wetlands designation would not preclude the expansion of
coastal dependent energy facilities in the area, but would permit
little other development. "Coastal dependent" is defined within
the Coastal Act, but in response to questioning from the Commis-
sion Mr. Gupta was not prepared to say whether or not a facility
expansion which would not directly manufacture energy but which
would involve the preparation of other fuels for use in the manu-
facture of energy would qualify as coastal dependent under the
definition in the Act.
The public hearing was opened.
Minutes, H.B. Planning Comm:LsSion
October 28, 1980
Page 2
Bill Compton, manager of the Huntington Beach office of the
Southern California Edison Company, addressed the Commission to dis-
cuss future plans Edison has for its property in terms of alternative
energy sources. He noted that the company is interested in having
their property available to them for expansion, and in their opinion
the present terminology in the plan would preclude any possible ex-
pansion of the plant for the stated purpose. He asked that he be
allowed to meet with staff to work out a.designation agreeable to both
Edison and the City and in accord with the provisions of the Coastal
Act, suggesting that a designation of "resource production" instead
of the present designation as wetlands would provide the necessary
flexibility. Mr. Compton distributed copies of his company's com-
ments on the plan and its proposals for possible future expansion of
the plant to the Commission.
Robert Moore, representing the Mills Land and Water Company, spoke in
opposition to the wetlands designation placed on the Mills property
and on the adjacent state-owned parcel which the company may re -acquire.
He stated that in his opinion the decision made by the Fish and Wild-
life Service, the State Department of Fish and Game, and the Army
Corps of Engineers had been unilateral and unjustified by the actual
conditions on the site. Mr. Moore asked permission to present an
expert witness to testify to the existing situation on the property.
Dr. Richard Vogl distributed a summary of his report to the Commis-
sioners. He pointed out that wetlands in order to be viable must
be restored and what occurs on adjacent properties has great bearing
on whether a specific area can be restored or not. He said that
restoration after the lapse of so great a time would be difficult,
very expensive, and perhaps impossible. He described the Mills site
as no different at present or historically from other nearby parcels
which are not designated as wetlands. Dr. Vogl noted further that
the recent jamming of the tide gates has permitted the land to be
flooded with water from the flood control channel which has killed
off the pickleweed, thereby effectively destroying the value of the
area as a habitat for the Belding savannah sparrow. In response to
questioning from the Commission, he replied that no one really knows
whether or not the pickleweed would regenerate if the tidal gates
were repaired and drainage restored on the site.
Dale Dunn, 17302 Almela Lane, addressed the Commission in support
of the adoption of Alternative 3 for the downtown section but with
no reference to a height limitation. He expressed the opinion that
flexibility is the key to good development in this area.
Lillian Myketuk, resident of Huntington by the Sea Mobilehome
Park, spoke in favor of retaining the wetlands designation as out-
lined in the draft element.
Oscar Taylor, downtown property owner, urged the adoption of Alter-
native 3 in order to allow private development of properties in
the downtown.
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Minutes, H.B. Planning Commission
October 28, 1980`
Page 3
Ed Chadowski, resident of Huntington by the Sea, spoke in favor
of retaining the wetlands designation as delineated in the draft
document, saying that from his observation the area is definitely
affected by tidal action and is inhabited by a bird population.
He suggested that the proper body to consider removal of that
designation would be the State Coastal Commission rather than the
Planning Commission or the City.
Ellen Trent, also a resident of Huntington by the Sea Mobilehome
Park, addressed the desirability of protecting and enhancing the
wildlife habitat designated as wetlands.
Jack Chalabian, KTJ Properties, Inc., addressed the Commission
to request redesignation of an area at the end of Edinger Avenue
near Countess Drive from commercial to residential.
Gary Mulligan, 117 Main Street, expressed preference for the Alt-
ernative 3 plan for the downtown area with height reference
deleted and the broadening of the mixed use designation.
Eldon Bagstad, downtown property owner, also favored Alternative 3.
Will Woods, 316 Main Street, presented the following comments:
1) If the wetlands designation remains, some government entity is
responsible for its restoration and maintenance; 2) Alternative 3
should be selected for the downtown area; and 3) the City should
not automatically accept any State designation within its bound-
aries but should contest any decision it may feel is not correct.
Richard Holt, downtown property owner, urged the adoption of
Alternative 3 for the downtown area.
Ed Zschoche addressed the Commission in support of a combination
of Alternatives 1 and 2 for the downtown with a height limitation
of not more than three stories. He said that it is imperative to
take an aggressive approach toward transportation development in
the downtown area, including a commitment to the already existing
transportation possibilities, using the abandoned railroad
right-of-way as a trunk for branch transportation throughout the
community. He also spoke in favor of the retention of the wet-
lands designation and the protection of the existing mobilehome
park. Mr. Zschoche encouraged the Commission to take a position
on the Bolsa Chica to enable the City to take a role in the
development of the County's Local Coastal Plan for that area.
Dr. Peter Green, Amigos de Bolsa Chica, addressed the issue of the
Bolsa Chica, asking approval of the recommendations submitted by
the Local Coastal Plan -Citizens Advisory Committee, particularly
Policy 9 to include Bolsa Chica as in the sphere of influence of
the City of Huntington Beach and Policy 10(b) to provide for the
participation of County, State, and federal agencies in plans for
the area. He also recommended that all references to roads,
bikeways, etc. into the Bolsa Chica be eliminated from the element.
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Minutes, H.B. Planning Commission
October 28, 1980
Page 4
Gordon Smith, representing the Environmental Board, commended the
draft Coastal Element if supplemented by the addition of the policies
recommended by the Citizens Advisory Committee. He believes a strong
statement should be made by the City recognizing the ecological value
of the Bolsa Chica and the importance of its preservation. In regard
to the downtown, Mr. Smith stated that the Environmental Board feels
that Alternative 3 should not be selected. He also urged preserva-
tion of the old railroad right-of-way.
Leonard Wright, 606 15th Street, spoke in favor of Alternative 1
for the downtown area with a three-story height limitation. He ex-
pressed the opinion that the downtown area would not support intensive
commercial and residential development and that Alternative 1 would
preserve the general characteristics of the old town, which is the
desire of the majority of the residents.
John Gable, 210 9th Street, strongly urged the approval of Alterna-
tive 1 for the downtown area.
Dennis Catron, representing Lindborg/Dahl Corporation, addressed the
Commission to encourage adoption of Alternative 3 for the downtown.
It was 4is feeling that this alternative would provide more flexibil-
ity for the development of the area if amended to allow for the
mixed use commercial/residential as suggested. He pointed out that
the recent earthquake safety survey will result in the eventual demo-
lition of most of the downtown buildings and a concrete plan of
development is needed to allow rebuilding.
William Stamm -addressed the Commission to support adoption of Alter-
native 1 for the downtown area, saying that adoption of either one of
the two other alternatives presented would lead to future problems,
while the first alternative will create a safes environment for
family housing yet bring about adequate commercial and business oppor-
tunities.
There were no other persons to address the Coastal Element, and the
public hearing was closed.
The Commission recessed at 9:25 and reconvened at 9:35 p.m.
Discussion began with the downtown area of the Coastal Zone. Areas
of discussion included allowed densities, provision of affordable
housing and what percentage should be required within the zone,
traffic patterns, ability of the area to support high density and com-
mercial/visitor serving uses, height limitations, setbacks, open
space, eventual ordinances or specific plans which could be used to
implement the coastal element, the expressed desires of residents of
the area, and the possibility of providing a mixed use in the commer-
cial areas by allowing residential use of stories above the ground
floors. Several Commissioners stressed the importance of the City
taking a positive step in the area which could provide the impetus
for private development of the downtown.
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Minutes, H.S. Planning Commission
October 28, 1980
Page 5
ON MOTION BY PORTER AND SECOND BY BANNISTER THE COMMISSION
SELECTED ALTERNATIVE 3 AS PROPOSED BY STAFF FOR THE DOWNTOWN
AREA, MODIFIED TO DELETE ANY MENTION OF HEIGHT LIMITATION,
TO ALLOW MIXED RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL USES IN THE COMMERCIAL
AREAS, AND TO REFLECT MEDIUM HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IN THE
AREAS NORTH OF 12TH STREET AND SOUTH OF HUNTINGTON STREET AS
OPPOSED TO THE HIGH DENSITY SHOWN IN THE DRAFT ELEMENT, BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES:
Bannister,
NOES:
Winchell,
ABSENT:
Greer
ABSTAIN:
None
Kenefick, Porter, Bauer
Schumacher
The policies recommended by the Local Coastal Program -Citizens
Advisory Committee were reviewed.
ON MOTION BY WINCHELL AND SECOND BY SCHUMACHER THE POLICIES
RECOMMENDED BY THE LOCAL COASTAL PROGRAM - CITIZENS ADVISORY
COMMITTEE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE HOUSING POLICIES, WERE
ACCEPTED FOR INCLUSION IN THE COASTAL ELEMENT, BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
AYES: Winchell, Porter, Schumacher, Bauer
NOES: Bannister, Kenefick
ABSENT: Greer
ABSTAIN: None
ON MOTION BY WINCHELL AND SECOND BY SCHUMACHER THE STAFF WAS
DIRECTED TO AMEND THE ELEMENT BY DELETION OF ALL REFERENCE TO
SEWERS, BICYCLE TRAILS, SCENIC ROUTES, OR ROADS INTO THE BOLSA
CHICA IN THE MAPS DEPICTING THE BOLSA CHICA, BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
AYES: Bannister, Kenefick, Winchell, Porter, Schumacher, Bauer
NOES: None
ABSENT: Greer
ABSTAIN: None
Chairman Porter directed staff to make the corrections to
the element by means of insertions into the document.
ON MOTION BY BAUER AND SECOND BY BANNISTER THE STAFF WAS DIRECTED
TO REVIEW THE PROPOSAL OF THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EDISON COMPANY
AS SUBMITTED AT THIS MEETING AND RETURN TO THE COMMISSION WITH A
RECOMMENDATION ON THAT PROPOSAL, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Bannister, Kenefick, Winchell, Porter, Schumacher, Bauer
NOES: None
ABSENT: Greer
ABSTAIN: None
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Minutes, H.B. Planning Commission
October 28, 1980
Page 6
Commissioner Bauer led a further discussion of the request of Mr.
Chalabian for residential designation of his property in the area
of Edinger Avenue and Countess Drive. Staff was directed to open
communications with the Coastal Commission and attempt to ascertain
what its intent might be in that regard. This item will be taken
up at the next regular meeting of the Commission.
ON MOTION BY KENEFICK AND SECOND BY BANNISTER THE COMMISSION AD-
JOURNED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE AT 11:10 PM.
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RECOMMENDED REVISIONS TO THE COASTAL ELEMENT - TEXT CHANGES
Page 141 Building Heights
Footnote The three land use alternatives which follow indicate
Added appropriate heights for various areas.! It should
be noted that the six and twelve story limitations
would not necessarily mean that the entire area would
be built to the designated limit. A specific plan,
or other zoning device, would be necessary to include
open space, setback and other considerations. A "step
down" approach, diminishing heights nearer the ocean
may be desired, along with phasing of development.
This will be considered in the implementation phase
of the plan.
References to height limitations have been deleted
from the description of Alternative Three to reflect
Planning Commission recommendations adopted on
October 28, 1980.
(Recommended by Planning Commission.)
Page 146 ALTERNATIVE NUMBER THREE - HIGH INTENSITY
The intense nature of this concept encourages high
rise structures, especially in the core area. The
Downtown is relatively small, however, and develop-
ment there must be compatible with the character of
the entire City. Thus, the implementation of this
alternative would require controls which ensure set-
backs and open space to protect views, provide
adequate parking and circulation, and prevent one or
two structures from capturing the entire market
potential of the area. phis-alte�nai�e-enisiene
b�iidin�9-e�-a�-te-t�e��e-s�e�ies-te-e�eate-the
deai�ed-n�ban-atmesphere-and-�ain�ain-a-eehesi�e
Bewn�ew�.
A visitor -serving commercial designation is applied
to the first block fronting Pacific Coast Highway
between Tenth and Lake Streets and to the Municipal
Pier and adjoining restaurant. BeiidiRg-heights-ef
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(Recommended by Planning Commission.)
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Page 147 The remaining areas, a total of 225 acres between
Goldenwest Street and Beach Boulevard, are re-
served for residential uses. High density residen-
tial is applied to the old Civic Center site.
High -density Medium density residential is applied
to the first block fronting Pacific Coast Highway
between Twenty-first and Twelfth Streets, to -the
aid-etvie-eenter-site, the 44-acre area bounded by
Pacific Coast Highway, Delaware Street, and Atlanta
Avenue, �i-mee�it�m-densttp-residentiai-e�esigaatien
is -applied and to approximately 148 acres between
Lake Street and Beach Boulevard. and -primarily
re�ieets-existing-iane�-uses.
(Recommended by Planning Commission.)
Policy Change
Water and Marine Resources
Page 157 8e. Prior to approval of any new or expanded seawater
pumping facilities, require maximum geasibie encourage
the provision of maximum mitigation measures to gi:Eveeb
minimize damage to marine organisms due to entertainment:
in accordance with state and federal law, (Recommended
by Staff)
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Minutes, H.B. Planning Commission
October 12, 1980
Page 17
ON MOTION BY KENEFICK AND SECOND BY WINCHELL THE COMMISSION AD-
JOURNED AT 1:10 AM TO A SPECIAL MEETING IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS
AT 7:00 PM, OCTOBER 28, 1980, FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONTINUING THE
PUBLIC HEARING ON THE COASTAL ELEMENT: MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
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