HomeMy WebLinkAbout1981-06-16Approved July 7, 1981
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MINUTES
HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
Council Chambers - Civic Center
2000 Main Street
Huntington Beach, California
TUESDAY, JUNE 16, 1981 - 7:00 PM
_COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Kenefick, Winchell, Porter, Schumacher,
Mahaffey
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Bannister, Paone
Chairman Porter led the Commission and staff in welcoming Planning
Commissioner Dan Mahaffey, recently appointed to fill a vacancy on
the Commission.
CONSENT CALENDAR:
ON MOTION BY WINCHELL AND SECOND BY KENEFICK THE MINUTES OF THE
REGULAR MEETING OF MAY 19, 1981 WERE APPROVED AS TRANSCRIBED, BY
THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Kenefick, Winchell, Porter, Schumacher
NOES: None
ABSENT: Bannister, Paone
ABSTAIN: Mahaffey
ON MOTION BY KENEFICK AND SECOND BY WINCHELL A ONE-YEAR EXTENSION
OF TIME FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 77-23, TENTATIVE PARCEL
MAP NO. 78-37, AND TENTATIVE TRACTS 10067, 10068, AND 10069
WAS GRANTED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Kenefick, Winchell, Porter, Schumacher, Mahaffey
NOES: None
ABSENT: Bannister, Paone
ABSTAIN: None
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
None
REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS:
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 81-14
Applicant: Lindborg/Dahl Investors, Inc.
To permit an office condominium complex to be constructed on 8.5
acres located at the west side of Magnolia north of Warner Avenue.
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Savoy Bellavia reported that the applicant has requested a continu-
ance to the first meeting in July in order to allow time to make
revisions to the plan. There were persons in the audience, however,
who wished to comment on the proposal, and the public hearing was
opened.
Michael Franzon, resident of O'Connor Drive, addressed the Commission
to discuss the matter of possible street connection between the
subject project and the adjoining residential tract to the west.
A woman in the audience also discussed the question of a possible
signal at Asari and Magnolia, citing the difficulty residents already
have in leaving or entering the tract from that arterial.
There were no other persons present to speak in regard to the pro-
posal, and the public hearing was continued to July 21, 1981.
The Commission reviewed the tentative agenda for the first meeting
in July.
ON MOTION BY KENEFICK AND SECOND BY SCHUMACHER CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
NO. 81-14 WAS CONTINUED TO THE MEETING OF JULY 21, 1981, BY THE FOL-
LOWING VOTE:
AYES: Kenefick, Winchell, Porter, Schumacher, Mahaffey
NOES: None
ABSENT: Bannister, Paone
ABSTAIN: None
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 81-17
Applicant: Ronald Kaufman
To permit establishment of an amusement center to be located on the
south side of Edinger Avenue approximately 100 feet west of Newland
Street in an existing shopping center.
The public hearing was opened and closed when no one was present to
speak for or against the proposal.
Commissioner Mahaffey reported that he had visited the site and in
his opinion it would be a good location for the subject business, with
adequate parking to accommodate patrons. The Commission reviewed the
project, considering the distance to the nearest residential units
(a minimum distance of 25 feet).
ON MOTION BY KENEFICK AND SECOND BY WINCHELL CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
NO. 81-17 WAS DENIED FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS, BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
FINDINGS FOR DENIAL:
1. The proposed use has a detrimental effect upon the general health,
safety and welfare, and convenience of persons residing or working
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in the neighborhood, or is detrimental to the value of the prop-
erty and improvements in the neighborhood (9841.4(a)) based
on the following facts:
The proposed amusement arcade is not compatible with the
apartment complex located to the south and west of the
subject site because of additional pedestrian and bicycle
traffic which could be generated by the amusement arcade.
2. The proposed use is not compatible with existing or other
proposed uses in the neighborhood (9841.4(d)) based on the
following facts:
The proposed amusement arcade is not compatible with the
apartments located to the west of the subject site because
of the noise that would be generated by patrons visiting
the amusement arcade.
AYES: Kenefick, Winchell, Porter, Schumacher
NOES: Mahaffey
ABSENT: Bannister, Paone
ABSTAIN: None
AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC PLAN NO. 73-1
Initiated by the City of Huntington Beach
Amendment to explore the possibility of deleting the closure of
Taylor Drive from the Taylor/Beach Specific Plan.
George Tindall, City Engineer, informed the Commission that this
item is before them at the request of the City Council in response
to petitions and complaints received as a result of the temporary
closure of Taylor Drive. He reviewed the history of the specific
plan, noting that when it was adopted in 1973 the property to the
north was zoned industrial and the closure of Taylor was included
in the specific plan in order to prevent a mix of industrial,
commercial, and residential traffic in the area. Since that time,
however, the area to the north has been rezoned and the need to
separate the traffic is no longer a problem. Mr. Tindall cited
the inconvenience which has resulted to the residents of the area
and the difficulty of getting onto Main Street at either Ellis
or Delaware as reasons for Public Works recommendation that the
street be reopened. He also said that a traffic signal at Ellis
and Main should be under construction late this fall and discus-
sions are under way in regard to a traffic signal at Taylor and
Beach Boulevard, with the possibility that it may go in in approxi-
mately two years. The justification for this signal would
obviously have to be re-evaluated in the event that Taylor is
closed permanently.
The public hearing was opened.
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The following persons addressed the Commission in support of remov-
ing the barricades and leaving Taylor Drive open to Beach Boulevard:
Kurt Luebke, 18321 Delaware Street
Dawn Kalbo, 18202 Sharon Lane
Clare Tomkin, 7731 Ontario Drive
Trudy Adams, 7671 Alberta Drive
Barbara Horowitz, 18312 Pammy Lane
Mr. Vascari, No address given
Fred Gruenbaum, No address given
Jack Grimes, No address given
Resident of 18156 Taylor Drive
Terry Growelle; 7731 Ontario Drive
John Bartok, 18196 Sharon Lane
Phillip Gentry, No address given
Jane Morris, 7672 Alberta Crive
Michael King, 7841 Taylor Drive
David Campbell, No address given
Carol Elston, 7702 Alberta Drive
Those who asked that Taylor be left open cited the inconvenience of
having to drive extra distances to get out of the tract, the difficult
and unsafe conditions on Ellis Avenue and Delaware Street at their
intersections with Main Street, and increased response time for emer-
gency vehicles which is caused by the closure. The consensus of
these speakers was that the closure benefited only a few and incon-
venienced many, and that a better approach would be to try to find
some way to control the traffic from the auto dealerships and to in-
stall safety features such as stop signs, traffic bumps, etc., to
slow down the traffic on Taylor.
The following persons addressed the Commission in support of leaving
Taylor Drive closed, as originally required by the Taylor/Beach
Specific Plan:
Ed Blumenstock, 7708 Taylor Drive
Verne Williams, 18352 Delaware Street
Beverly Lawson, 7672 Taylor Drive
Craig Kaleff, 7712 Talyor Drive
Brenda-McLurie, Resident on Taylor Drive
Elena Smith, 7762 Taylor Drive
Those who favored the closure of Taylor Drive pointed out that it
is much safer now -for children to use the park than it was before
the street was closed and that the traffic situation within the
tract has been improved. It was the consensus of those favoring
closure that the inconvenience of longer trips was made up for by ■
the increased quiet and -safety benefits to the neighborhood.
The public hearing was closed.
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In its discussion of the proposal, the Commission reviewed the
history of the specific plan, the uniqueness of the situation
with two auto dealers using a small neighborhood collector
street for access to their lots and as a testing ground for their
automobiles, and the apparently changed attitude of the majority
of the residents of the area since the closure was originally
approved in 1973 as part of the Taylor/Beach Specific Plan.
Commissioner Porter conceded that there have been changing condi-
tions in the area surrounding Taylor Drive since the prior
action was taken, but noted that there remains a traffic problem
on Taylor and discussed the possibility that some location could
be found to close the street to through traffic while still
allowing access from Beach Boulevard to the housing tract to the
north.
Various suggestions were put forward to attempt to control the
traffic problem, including prohibition of heavy trucks and auto
carriers, extra police surveillance and enforcement in the area,
speed bumps or rumble strips installed in the street, stop
signs placed to slow auto traffic on Taylor, a median to narrow
the street and discourage speeders, and the possibility of using
the funds which would be necessary to spend for permanent closure
and allocating them instead to enforcement efforts.
Legal counsel Art Folger informed the Commission that there is
no legal way to stop the use of the streets by the auto dealers
and discussed the liability the City might incur through the
use of the speed bumps in a public street. City Engineer Tindall
concurred that these speed bumps were an unsafe method by which
to try to control traffic and could result in tremendous liability
to the community. Mr. Tindall also said that the Department of
Public Works has been considering and would recommend three-way
stop signs at the intersections of Taylor and Huntington and
Taylor and Delaware and a one-way stop sign at Taylor and Franklin;
he noted that the judicious use of stop signs is a viable option
to reduce traffic speeds.
The timing on a possible removal of the barricades was extensively
reviewed.
ON MOTION BY KENEFICK AND SECOND BY PORTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION
DETERMINED TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL THE AMENDMENT OF
SPECIFIC PLAN NO. 73-1 TO DELETE THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE CLOSURE
OF TAYLOR DRIVE UPON APPROVAL OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO CONTROL
THE SPEED AND TRAFFIC ON TAYLOR DRIVE, SAID PLAN TO CONTAIN THE
FOLLOWING; MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
Consideration should be given to a variety of methods
whereby the opening of Taylor Drive can be accomplished;
for instance, stop signs at Huntington, Delaware, and
Pammy Lane, small rumble strips in the street to caution
drivers, crosswalks, allocation of budget funds for
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police enforcement which would otherwise have been used for
the permanent closure of Taylor Drive, a median to narrow the
street, and/or a combination of the above to effect traffic
control on Taylor Drive.
AYES: Kenefick, Winchell, Porter
NOES: Schumacher, Mahaffey
ABSENT: Bannister, Paone
ABSTAIN: None
Commissioners Schumacher and Mahaffey directed that the minute
action show that their "no" votes do not indicate an opposition to
the opening of Taylor Drive, but rather that they wanted Taylor
to be opened immediately without the condition for a prior traffic
plan to be submitted. It was their feeling that this plan could be
formulated and put into effect after the opening had been accomplished.
The Commission recessed at 9:05 p.m. and reconvened at 9:20 p.m.
Chairman Porter brought to the attention of the Commission the
resolution which had accompanied the amendment to the specific plan,
Resolution 1275. The resolution was reviewed and amended to reflect
the Commission's motion on the specific plan.
ON MOTION BY KENEFICK AND SECOND BY WINCHELL AMENDED RESOLUTION NO.
1275 WAS ADOPTED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES:
Kenefick,
NOES:
Schumacher
ABSENT:
Bannister,
ABSTAIN:
None
DISCUSSION ITEMS:
Winchell, Porter, Mahaffey
Paone
STATUS OF GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENTS
June Catalano reported that the City Council has directed a change
in procedure for handling general plan amendments after review by
the Commission - in the future, instead of deleting an item from a
proposed general plan amendment the Council wishes it to be denied
and forwarded to the City Council with the amendment for its action.
This will assure that the Council will be able to review every
item within a general plan amendment without the necessity of an
appeal. Staff will initiate this procedure on the upcoming General
Plan Amendment 81-2.
UPDATE ON ELECTRONIC GAME MACHINE REPORT
Jeanine Frank reported that the game machine report is being revised
to include locational criteria, to define the permitted number of
machines per business, and to investigate the legality of prohibiting
such machines in establishments where liquor is sold. Chairman
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Porter said that the 20 foot frontage of the building in which
such a use was denied earlier in the evening was not sufficient
to provide room for bicycle parking and avoid congestion and
suggested that staff might like to consider front footage as
another criterion for amusement machines.
Staff hopes to have the revised report for Commission review
at its July 7, 1981 meeting.
Commissioner Mahaffey expressed his disagreement with the con-
cept of preparing a regulatory ordinance specifically directed
at a particular type of business in the community, saying that
in his opinion these businesses should be allowed to operate
and provide the public with an obviously popular entertainment.
Discussion ensued on the impacts on adjacent properties which
might result from establishment of such uses.
UPDATE ON ELLIS/GOLDENWEST STUDY
Staff reviewed the information contained in the staff report
with the Commission and asked for further direction on the
densities and types of uses the Commission would like to see
incorporated into the area and for guidance on the implementa-
tion measures to effect those uses. The Commission discussed
the planned community designation, the estate zoning, possible
use of clustered housing in conjunction with the estate
zoning to provide larger amounts of open space, the fiscal
impact report submitted on possible land uses, and a proposal
by the City Administrator that nodes of commercial be included
in the area as specialty shops of a nature to serve the resi-
dential development and Central Park. Staff is proposing
to include a precise plan of street alignments as one of the
implementation measures; this is a very important step because
many of the substandard lots in the area have at present legal
access onto Goldenwest Street and development with access of
this type would be counterproductive to the total planning for
the entire area.
After extensive review it was the consensus of the Commission
that it would be very desirable to tour developments of a
nature similar to those being considered in order to obtain a
clearer idea of what is being proposed. Staff was directed
to accept Mrs. Mandic's offer made at the June 2, 1981 meeting
on behalf of Equestrian Trails to arrange a tour of equestrian
estate and condominium facilities. This tour will be scheduled
for Saturday, June 27 at 9:00 a.m.
ANALYSIS OF REVISION TO OPEN SPACE IN THE TOWNLOT AREA
Staff discussed the building bulk and setback problems being
encountered in the three-story construction in the Townlot area,
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informing the Commission that a proposed "volume open space" solu-
tion has, after investigation, been found to be infeasible. Use
of a vertical setback line for three-story buildings was proposed.
The Commission concurred and by consensus directed staff to pursue
this approach.
REVIEW OF JUNE 15, 1981, CITY COUNCIL AGENDA:
June catalano reviewed the actions taken at the City Council meet-
ing of June 15, 1981, for the Commission's information.
The Commission adjourned at 10:15 p.m. to a study session to be
held Saturday, June 27, 1981 at 9:00 a.m. Study session will con-
sist of a tour of equestrian facilities and will start from the
City Hall parking lot.
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