HomeMy WebLinkAbout1981-11-03Approved December 1, 1981
MINUTES
HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
Council Chambers - Civic Center
2000 Main Street
Huntington Beach, California
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 3, 1981 - 7:00 PM
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Bannister, Kenefick, Paone, Winchell,
Porter (9:10), Schumacher, Mahaffey
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: None
CONSENT CALENDAR:
Acting Secretary Catalano asked that Consent Agenda Item A-5 be
pulled for action at a later date, and Commissioner Kenefick
asked that Item A-3 be separated from the agenda for separate
discussion.
ON MOTION BY PAONE AND SECOND BY BANNISTER, THE REMAINDER OF THE
CONSENT AGENDA, CONSISTING OF THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETINGS
OF OCTOBER 6 AND 20, 1981, AND CONFORMANCES WITH THE GENERAL PLAN
NOS. 81-13 AND 81-15, WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTES:
OCTOBER 6, 1981 MINUTES;
AYES: Bannister, Kenefick, Winchell, Mahaffey
NOES: None
ABSENT: Porter
ABSTAIN: Paone, Schumacher
OCTOBER 20, 1981 MINUTES:
AYES: Bannister, Kenefick, Paone, Schumacher, Mahaffey
NOES: None
ABSENT: Porter
ABSTAIN: Winchell
CONFORMANCES WITH GENERAL PLAN NOS. 81-13 AND 81-15:
AYES: Bannister, Kenefick, Paone, Winchell, Schumacher, Mahaffey
NOES: None
ABSENT: Porter
ABSTAIN: None
Agenda Item A-12, a request to find the vacation of a
portion of street right-of-way at Sugar and McFadden Ave-
nues, in conformance with the General Plan was discussed. Com-
missioner Kenefick expressed deep concern with the creation
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additional residential lots at this location (which is the intent
of the adjoining property owner if the street right-of-way is vac-
ated) citing traffic, access, and noise problems on the site. She
also expressed the opinion that the existing zoning on the adjacent
empty lots should be changed to open space to preclude development
of residential uses on those lots as well. After review, the staff
and the Commission concurred that further information was necessary
in order to make a determination on this matter.
ON MOTION BY KENEFICK AND SECOND BY MAHAFFEY CONFORMANCE WITH GENERAL
PLAN NO. 81-12 WAS CONTINUED TO THE MEETING OF NOVEMBER 17, 1981,
BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Bannister, Kenefick, Paone, Winchell, Schumacher, Mahaffey
NOES: None
ABSENT: Porter
ABSTAIN: None
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None
REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS:
GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 81-2
Land Use Element amendment which includes a staff -initiated proposal
to add a medium high density residential category to the General Plan,
a staff -initiated proposal to clarify the criteria used to determine
General Plan conformance in the coastal zone, a Council -initiated
request to add clarifying language to the amendment process description,
and a Planning Commission request to analyze a resource production
overlay in the Garfield/Goldenwest area. Four requests from private
applicants for changes in General Plan land use designations are also
under consideration in the amendment request.
Ms. Catalano suggested that the Commission handle the amendment by
separate review of each separate proposal with a straw vote taken
on each portion; the amendment as a whole would then be approved by
a formal vote on the adoption of the resolution. The Commission con-
curred with this approach.
2.1 MEDIUM HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION
Carol Inge outlined the proposal, noting that this amendment would
provide consistency between the zoning and the General Plan in approxi-
mately 44 areas in the City where medium density designation is im-
plemented by R3 zoning. Later on staff will point out other areas
where the medium high densityiredesignation of other properties would
be appropriate.
The public hearing on Area 2.1 was opened, and closed when no one was
present to address the matter.
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The Commission discussed the proposal.
ON MOTION BY PAONE AND SECOND BY KENEFICK THE COMMISSION RECOM-
MENDED THAT AREA 2.1 OF THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT BE ADOPTED,
BY THE FOLLOWING STRAW VOTE:
AYES: Kenefick, Paone, Winchell, Schumacher, Mahaffey
NOES: Bannister
ABSENT: Porter
ABSTAIN: None
2.2 GENERAL PLAN CONSISTENCY IN THE COASTAL ZONE
Chuck Clark explained that, because of the very specific nature
of the Land Use Plan and the Coastal Plan, staff feels that is
is not necessary or desirable to permit any consideration of
size criteria within the coastal zone and recommends that the
following paragraph be added to Section 4.1 of the General Plan:
"Reference to the size.criteria in Figure 3-15 will not be made
when making a finding of consistency in the City's coastal zone."
The public hearing on Area 2.2 was opened and closed.
Brief Commission discussion ensued.
ON MOTION BY PAONE AND SECOND BY MAHAFFEY THE COMMISSION RECOM-
MENDED THAT AREA 2.2 OF THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT BE ADOPTED,
BY THE FOLLOWING STRAW VOTE:
AYES: Kenefick, Paone, Winchell, Schumacher, Mahaffey
NOES: Bannister
ABSENT: Porter
ABSTAIN: None
2.3 MODIFICATIONS OF THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT PROCESS
Mr. Clark explained that the proposed modification would require
that all items heard by the Planning Commission in a General
Plan Amendment request would automatically be forwarded to the
City Council, with the resolution going to Council plainly deline-
ating which items were recommended for approval and which for
denial. June Catalano further informed the Commission that this
proposal is the result of a direct request from the City Council.
The public hearing was opened, and closed when no one was pre-
sent to speak for or against the matter.
Commissioner Schumacher pointed out that State zoning laws seem
to refer only to items recommended by the Commission, with no
reference made to items not recommended for approval or denied.
Commissioner Paone noted that the Commission is only acting in
an advisory capacity, not as the final decision maker, and the
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public as well as the applicants should know that all matters will
go to the Council without the necessity for filing an appeal.
ON MOTION BY KENEFICK AND SECOND BY PAONE THE COMMISSION RECOM-
MENDED THAT AREA 2.3 OF THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT BE ADOPTED,
BY THE FOLLOWING STRAW VOTE:
AYES: Bannister, Kenefick, Paone, Winchell, Mahaffey
NOES; Scumacher
ABSENT: Porter
ABSTAIN: None
2.4 GARFIELD-GOLDENWEST AREA
Chuck Clark described the history of the area and the proposal that
a resource production overlay be implemented on the properties; he
noted, however, that the Attorney's office has some concern that such
an overlay might result in precluding development of any new uses
except those related to oil production. Mr. Clark outlined the
various alternatives suggested in the staff review of the General
Plan Amendment proposal, concluding by stating the staff's recommenda-
tion that a specific plan be prepared for the total area and that
a resource production overlay not be adopted.
The public hearing was opened and closed.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY KENEFICK AND SECONDED BY SCHUMACHER THAT A
SPECIFIC PLAN BE PREPARED FOR THE GARFIELD-GOLDENWEST AREA, WITH
SAID SPECIFIC PLAN BEING COMPATIBLE WITH AND CONDUCIVE TO THE KINDS
OF DEVELOPMENT THAT COMMISSION HAS DIRECTED TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN
THE ADJOINING AREA.
In the ensuing extensive discussion, the Commission discussed whether
or not the existing medium density General Plan designation that now
exists on the properties would be retained; the effect of a specific
plan on the existing M1 uses in the area (e.g., the Cambro plant);
the possibility of splitting the area between the industrial uses
to the west and the residential to the east as a means of protecting
the interests of existing industrial facilities; a proposed method
of spreading the cost of preparation of a specific plan among the
area landowners as properties develop, as allowed by State law; and
the possibility of combining a specific plan with a Planned Community
concept or designation.
The last proposal was discussed in detail as being an approach which
would provide the highest degree of flexibility and leave the most
options open to developers; however, it was pointed out by staff that
it would be very difficult to implement, considering the fragmenta-
tion of ownerships and the requirement of 50 acres of consolidated
area for the planned community designation. It was also pointed out
that the densities in a planned community would not be specifically
set, and such a designation could result in a higher density devel-
opment than anticipated.
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THE MOTION FAILED BY THE FOLLOWING STRAW VOTE:
AYES: Kenefick, Winchell, Schumacher
NOES: Bannister, Paone, Mahaffey
ABSENT: Porter
ABSTAIN: None
The Commission, staff, and legal counsel discussed alternative
procedure and the scheduling of GPA 81-3. Commissioner Paone,
who had been the principal advocate of the planned development
concept in the prior discussion, conceded that there seemed to
be insufficient support for that designation on the Commission
and the specific plan recommended by staff was a good alterna-
tive.
ON MOTION BY PAONE AND SECOND BY KENEFICK THE COMMISSION DE-
TERMINED TO RECONSIDER ITS PRIOR STRAW VOTE ON THE SPECIFIC
PLAN, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Bannister, Kenefick, Paone, Winchell, Schumacher
NOES: Mahaffey
ABSENT: Porter
ABSTAIN: None
ON MOTION BY PAONE AND SECOND BY KENEFICK THE COMMISSION RECOM-
MENDED THAT THE SPECIFIC PLAN APPROACH BE RECOMMENDED TO THE
CITY COUNCIL, BY THE FOLLOWING STRAW VOTE:
AYES: Bannister, Kenefick, Paone, Winchell, Schumacher
NOES: Mahaffey
ABSENT: Porter
ABSTAIN: None
AREA OF CONCERN 3.1
Applicant: Dick Nerio
To permit a change of land use designation from low density resi-
dential to general commercial and medium density residential on
64 acres of land located on the north side of Warner Avenue approxi-
mately 700 feet east of Bolsa Chica Street.
Chuck Clark described the history of past action on the site,
and noted that 15 acres fronting on Warner are requested to be
designated as commercial with the remaining 49 acres to be medium
density residential. Staff is recommending that the 15 acre parcel
be designated to mixed use, as it is felt that the commercial
demand is not sufficient to justify so much commercial area.
The public hearing was opened.
Dick Nerio, applicant, addressed the Commission to speak in favor
of his request, saying that it would be compatible with the sur-
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rounding properties and an asset to the community. He concurred
with staff's recommendation for mixed use on the 15 acre commer-
cial portion of his request, and informed the Commission that the
entire property.will remain under his family's ownership.
Chairman Winchell directed that the record show that.the Commission
has received petitions in opposition to this area of the General
Plan Amendment.
The following persons spoke against the granting of the request:
Dean Allbright . . . . . 17301 Breda Lane, H.B.
Stratton Matenas . . . . 17081 Greentree Lane, H.B.
Carl Nelson . . . . . . 5381 Overland Drive, H.B.
William Stegemann . . 16951 Agate Circle, H.B.
Susan Foote . . . . . . 16871 Canyon Lane, H.B.
Ralph Ricks . . . . . . 5362 Old Pirate Lane, H.B.
The speakers all opposed any commercial designation on the 'site,
saying that the area has already too much commercial for the demand,
that it would create traffic, noise, crime and security problems
for the surrounding residential communities. Some speakers also
objected to the close proximity to their homes ...of. the proposed
commercial buildings, citing loss of privacy and the deterioration
of the peace and quiet of the neighborhood. The speakers opposed
the establishment of the medium density residential designation as
well, asking that the airport.property be left at its present R1
designation.
Bob McMullan, 17172 Sandra Lane, H.B., spoke in favor of the re-
quest, saying that the high vacancy factor in the existing commer-
cial could be blamed on the state of the economy rather than an
over -supply of commercial zoning and that the medium density resi-
dential would be in accord with the type of development presently
being built on other properties in that section of Huntington Beach.
There were no other persons present wishing to address the Commis-
sion either for or against the proposal, and the public hearing
was closed.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY PAONE AND SECONDED BY WINCHELL THAT THE COMMIS-
SION RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THE PORTION OF THE SUBJECT
PROPERTY FRONTING ON WARNER AVENUE AND THE MOST NORTHERLY PORTION BE
REDESIGNATED TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND THAT THE CENTER OF THE
SUBJECT PROPERTY BE LEFT AT ITS PRESENT LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DE-
SIGNATION.
In the ensuing discussion, the Commission considered the possibility
of placing a Planned Development designation with some maximum den-
sity on the property, or with some requirement for averaging the
density so that the more highly intense use would be on the outer
perimeters of the site and the lower density in the center of the
project; the possibility of applying the Planned Development designa-
tion at the zoning level; the question of whether or not it would be
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desirable to have the property develop essentially as three
separate parcels, as the motion would indicate; and how or if
existing streets could be extended to connect with streets
inside an R1 project on the property. In response to the last
consideration, Bruce Gilmer of Public Works informed the Com-
mission that only Pearce Street could be connected without going
through existing lots in other developments.
THE MOTION FAILED BY THE FOLLOWING STRAW VOTE:
AYES: Paone, Winchell
NOES: Bannister, Kenefick, Schumacher, Mahaffey
ABSENT: Porter
ABSTAIN: None
A motion was made by Kenefick that the Meadowlark Airport be
redesignated as a Planned Development community with a maximum
density of nine (9) units per acre. Motion failed for lack of
a second.
ON MOTION BY BANNISTER AND SECOND BY SCHUMACHER THE COMMISSION
DETERMINED TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THE EXISTING
LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BE
RETAINED, BY THE FOLLOWING STRAW VOTE:
AYES: Bannister, Kenefick, Winchell, Schumacher
NOES: Paone, Mahaffey
ABSENT: Porter
ABSTAIN: None
The Commission meeting recessed at 9:00 p.m. and reconvened
at 9:10 p.m.
AREA OF CONCERN 3.2 - COMMODORE CIRCLE
Applicant: Charles MacGregor and Scott Strohbehn
To permit a change of General Plan designation from medium
density residential to medium -High density residential on
4.5 acres of land located on the west side of Delaware Street
north of Main Street.
Chuck Clark reviewed the proposed redesignation, noting that
in staff's opinion it would be more consistent with the current
R3 zoning on the property, would allow a new tract map to be
filed to make more efficient use of the -property, and would pro-
vide an incentive for redevelopment of the parcel.
The public hearing was opened.
Scott Strohbehn spoke to the Commission in support of his re-
quest and to agree with the condition for cooperation in the
relocation of displaced residents as suggested by staff.
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There were no other persons present to speak regarding this area
of concern, and the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Porter arrived at the meeting at this point.
Chairman Winchell noted that this is the first instance facing the
Commission in which it must determine if it wishes to bring the
General Plan into conformance with the zoning or vice versa, and in
her opinion the character of the surrounding neighborhood is such
that she would prefer not to place the R3 designation, which would
allow up to 25 units per acre, on the parcel. Commissioner Bannister
discussed the existing problems in the project and indicated that
increasing the density did not seem conducive to solving those prob-
lems. In response, Mr. Strohbehn pointed out that the overcrowded
situation and resulting difficulties are caused by the number of
people living in the project, not by the number of units,_ and accord-
ing to staff calculations the redesignation would result in only a
very minor increase in the population of the area.
ON MOTION BY PAONE AND SECOND BY MAHAFFEY THE COMMISSION DETERMINED
TO RECOMMEND THAT THE DESIGNATION ON AREA OF CONCERN 3.2 BE CHANGED
TO MEDIUM HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WITH THE CONDITION THAT PRIOR TO
APPROVAL OF A DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE THE APPLICANT SUBMIT A PLAN
ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY ADDRESSING THE RELOCATION OF DISPLACED
FAMILIES, BY THE FOLLOWING STRAW VOTE:
AYES:, Kenefick, Paone, Portek , Mahaffey
NOES: Bannister, Winchell, Schumacher
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
AREA OF CONCERN 3.3 - NEWMAN/VAN BUREN
Applicant: James Nye
To permit the redesignation of one acre of land located at the north-
east corner of Newman Avenue and Van Buren Street from medium
density residential to office professional.
Chuck Clark described the location and explained the staff's recom-
mendation that the area not be redesignated because of the availability
of office space in the immediate vicinity and the surrounding resi-
dential uses.
The public hearing was opened.
James Nye, applicant, spoke in favor of his request, saying that the
property will be shared with a cancer treatment facility subject to
Planning Commission approval of the application.
Larry Nye, speaking as vice president of the Missionary Baptist Church,
owner of the property, described how the proposed buildings on the
site will be located and used. He said that the church building
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will act as a buffer between residences and the office build-
ing, and described the grade differential in the area which
will further serve to separate the uses.
There were no other persons to address the proposal, and the
public hearing was closed.
The Commission discussed the compatibility of the proposal,
the fact that redesignating such a small portion of land could
be construed as spot zoning, and the fact that no actual pro-
ject is before the Commission on which'to base its action.
ON MOTION BY MAHAFFEY AND SECOND BY PORTER THE COMMISSION
DETERMINED TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT AREA OF CON-
CERN 3.3 BE REDESIGNATED TO OFFICE PROFESSIONAL, BY THE FOLLOW-
ING STRAW VOTE:
AYES: Paone, Winchell, Porter, Schumacher, Mahaffey
NOES: Bannister, Kenefick
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
AREA OF CONCERN 3.4 - BEACH/ATLANTA AREA
Applicant: Bijan Sassounian
To permit redesignation of 9.8 acres of land located east of
Beach Boulevard approximately 1000 feet south of Atlanta Avenue
from general commercial and medium density residential to high
density residential.
Commissioner Paone announced that he would abstain from consid-
eration of this matter because of a potential conflict of
interest.
Chuck Clark reviewed the proposal and staff's recommendation
for high density residential on the whole site, saying that it
is an excellent location for high quality housing and that it
could provide the demand for the commercial uses anticipated in
the area. He added that staff is currently investigating sig-
nalled access to the area as well as a frontage road system; in
fact, a condition of approval would be suggested to require that
a frontage road parallel to Beach Boulevard be provided.
The public hearing was opened.
Bijan Sassounian spoke to concur with the recommendations of
the staff.
There were no other persons present to speak for or against the
proposal, and the public hearing was closed.
A motion was made by Mahaffey to approve the staffs recommenda-
tion for high density residential for Area 3.4. Motion failed
for lack of a second.
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The Commission discussed how access to the site and the general
area would be taken and whether or not the question of a frontage
road might not more appropriately be addressed in the Circulation
Element or the Arterial Streets and Highways. Carol Inge of the
Planning staff agreed that the issue would be more appropriately
identified at the project level but that staff had wanted the need
for the frontage road 'indicated at the time the applicant came into
the department for entitlement. Bruce Gilmer said that the intent
is to minimize the access points from Beach Boulevard. The wetlands
question and the method of obtaining environmental documentation
on the site were reviewed.
ON MOTION BY PORTER AND SECOND BY BANNISTER THE COMMISSION DETER-
MINED TO RECOMMEND THAT THE ENTIRE AREA BE REDESIGNATED TO MEDIUM
DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WITH THE STIPULATION THAT IN THE PROJECT APPLI-
CATION FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY SPECIAL CONSIDERATION BE
GIVEN TO CONTROL OF THE NUMBER AND TYPES OF ACCESS POINTS ONTO
BEACH BOULEVARD INCLUDING CONSIDERATION OF A FRONTAGE ROAD, BY THE
FOLLOWING STRAW VOTE:
AYES: Bannister, Kenefick, Winchell, Porter, Schumacher
NOES: Mahaffey
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Paone
ON MOTION BY WINCHELL AND SECOND BY KENEFICK THE COMMISSION IMPOSED
THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENTS UPON SUBSEQUENT DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS
ON THE PROPERTY, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
1. An environmental analysis shall be done sufficient to deal with
the wetlands determination.
2. If the determination is made that the area is a wetland, that
fact shall be considered in the project design.
AYES: Bannister, Kenefick, Winchell, Porter, Schumacher
NOES: Mahaffey
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Paone
A MOTION WAS MADE BY KENEFICK AND SECONDED BY WINCHELL THAT
GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 81-2, AS ACTED UPON BY THE COMMISSION
THROUGH ITS PRIOR STRAW VOTES, BE APPROVED FOR RECOMMENDATION TO
THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION, BY THE APPROVAL OF AMENDED
RESOLUTION NO. 1278.
Commissioner Porter indicated that he would abstain from voting
because he had not been present to participate in discussion on every
area of concern.
Staff pointed out that it would be necessary to adopt the EIR pre-
pared for the amendment.
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ON MOTION BY WINCHELL AND SECOND BY KENEFICK THE MOTION TO
APPROVE RESOLUTION NO. 1278 WAS TABLED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
ON MOTION BY KENEFICK AND SECOND BY SCHUMACHER ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT REPORT NO. 81-4 WAS CERTIFIED AS BEING COMPLETE AND IN
COMPLIANCE WITH CEQA, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Bannister, Kenefick, Paone, Winchell, Porter,
Schumacher, Mahaffey
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
ON MOTION BY WINCHELL AND SECOND BY BANNISTER THE ORIGINAL
MOTION WAS TAKEN OFF THE TABLE, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Kenefick, Paone, Winchell, Porter, Schumacher
NOES: Bannister, Mahaffey
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
THE ORIGINAL MOTION TO APPROVE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 81-2
BY THE ADOPTION OF AMENDED RESOLUTION NO. 1278 WAS CARRIED BY
THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Kenefick, Paone, Winchell, Schumacher,
NOES: Bannister, Mahaffey
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Porter
CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 81-58 (Appeal) Cont. from 10-20-81)
Applicant: Roger Cole
To allow a windscreen to be constructed at a ten (10) foot
height in lieu of the code -permitted eight (8) feet, on prop-
erty located on Ragtime Circle approximately 300 feet south of
Sundancer Lane.
Savoy Bellavia noted that the information requested by the Com-
mission has been supplied: The applicant has submitted informa-
tion on the number and types of similar windscreens in the area,
and staff research has determined that no conditional exceptions
for those uses were granted by the City, nor were any building
permits issued which specified like dimensions or construction.
The permits staff did locate were specifically for windscreens
only and not for glass or plastic covered solariums or rooms,
which the requested construction basically is.
The public hearing was opened.and closed on October 20, 1981.
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A MOTION WAS MADE BY PAONE AND SECONDED BY PORTER THAT THE COMMIS-
SION SUSTAIN THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENTS' DENIAL OF CONDITIONAL
EXCEPTION NO. 81-58 WITH THE FINDINGS CONTAINED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
MOTION FAILED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Paone, Porter, Schumacher
NOES: Bannister, Mahaffey
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Kenefick, Winchell
The Commission discussed the request with staff and the applicant's
architect, taking into account prior lack of code enforcement in
this regard; the existence of other similar facilities in the area,
whether built-in accordance with code or not; the information on
the copies of building permits which were submitted; and the legal
question of justification of issuance of a conditional exception.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY BANNISTER AND SECOND BY MAHAFFEY TO TABLE THE
REQUEST. MOTION FAILED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Bannister, Mahaffey
NOES: Paone, Winchell, Porter, Schumacher
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Kenefick-
The request will automatically be continued to the next Planning
Commission meeting on November 17, 1981, for failure to attain four
affirmative votes on any motion for action.
ON MOTION BY MAHAFFEY AND SECOND BY BANNISTER THE COMMISSION DIRECTED
STAFF TO PREPARE AN AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE CODE WITH REGARD TO
THIS TYPE,OF WINDSCREEN CONSTRUCTION IN HUNTINGTON HARBOUR, BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE: -
AYES: Bannister, Kenefick, Paone, Winchell, Schumacher, Mahaffey
NOES: Porter
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
In response to Commissioner Mahaffey's inquiry on the timing, staff
indicated that the amendment cannot be set for public hearing by the
next meeting but a draft can be presented to the Commission for
review at that time.
ON MOTION BY KENEFICK AND SECOND BY PAONE THE COMMISSION SUSPENDED
ITS PROCEDURE OF INTRODUCING NO PUBLIC HEARINGS AFTER 10:30 PM, BY
THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Kenefick, Paone, Winchell, Schumacher
NOES: Bannister, Porter, Mahaffey
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
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The next two agenda items were combined for public hearing
by the Commission.
ZONE CHANGES 81-3 AND 81-11 (Cont. from 10-6-81)
Applicant: Lindborg/Dahl Investors, Inc.
ZONE CHANGE NO. 81-3: To permit a change of zone from RA-0 to
Q-R1-0-8,000 on property located on the east side of Edwards
Street approximately 1000 feet south of Ellis Avenue.
ZONE CHANGE NO. 81-11: To permit a change of zone from
RA-O-CD to Q-R1-0-CD-15,000 on property located on the south
side of Ellis Avenue approximately 800 feet west of Goldenwest
Street.
Carol Inge briefly reviewed the applications. She pointed out
that they are located within an area for which staff is prepar-
ing a specific plan which is anticipated to be finished in
January of next year. In staff's opinion approval of these zone
changes would prejudice that plan and might encourage other
property onwers in the area to apply for similar changes in zon-
ing in a vicinity which staff feels is not ready for subdivision
at this time. Commissioner Porter requested to know how many
staff hours are estimated to be put into the plan and what per-
centage of the plan is presently completed. Ms. Inge replied
that no tally of hours is available at this time, but the plan
is approximately 50 percent complete.
The public hearing was opened on both requests.
David Dahl, applicant, addressed the Commission to urge approval
of his requests saying that the delay has already been very
costly and further delay could preclude him from being able to
meet his planned maximum density of four units to the acre or
from including equestrian facilities within his developments,
which he now plans to do. He informed the Commission that if
his zone changes are approved he will plan a project consistent
with the General Plan concept of estate zoning, with clustered
housing, low density, narrower streets, less intensive public
improvements, etc.
In response to Commissioner Porter's request for his reaction
to the "Q" prefix on his zoning, Mr. Dahl replied that he wel-
comed the qualified zoning designation.
Dave Allbright, representing the Environmental Board, spoke
to the Commission to say that the Board opposes any changes to
the General Plan in this area, which it feels has been adequately
covered through other studies. He urged the Planning Commission
to approve the zone changes and allow the property to develop
according to its existing General Plan designation.
Linda Moon, 17161 Goldenwest Street, an attorney representing
Equestrian Trails, Inc., spoke in support of the requests and
urged their approval.
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Al Bell, 20292 Eastwood Circle, Huntington Beach called the proposal
of the applicant a unique opportunity for the City to preserve the
equestrian uses within the City and also to diversify the residential
mix the community can provide. He recommended its approval conditioned
to properly integrate the concepts asked for in the forthcoming
specific plan.
The following persons also spoke in favor of granting the requests,
citing the same reasons as previously given:
Douglas Griffes, Georgia,Street, Huntington Beach
Kim Hunt, 16891 B Street, Huntington Beach
June Nash (presenting a speech prepared by Sue Springer)
Connie Mandic
The public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Bannister left the meeting at 10:50 p.m.
The Commission discussed how best to preserve the characteristics of
the existing sites through the allowable conditioning under the "Q"
designation, how grade differentials could be retained, and what the
equestrian standards in the code required for square footage of lots.
Precise wording to accomplish the above goals was extensively dis-
cussed.
ON MOTION BY PORTER AND SECOND BY PAONE NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO.
81-26 WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: ----
AYES: Kenefick, Paone, Winchell, Porter, Schumacher, Mahaffey
NOES: None
ABSENT: Bannister
ABSTAIN: None
ON MOTION BY PORTER AND SECOND BY KENEFICK ZONE CHANGE NO. 81-3
WAS APPROVED FOR RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION
WITH THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
FINDINGS:
1. The zoning of this property to Q-R1-0-8,000 is consistent with
the Huntington Beach General Plan and is compatible with land
use designations for surrounding properties.
CONDITIONS OF THE "Q" ZONING:
1. Any future project approved for this parcel of land shall make
provisions for equestrian uses within the development.
2. Variation in topography shall,be provided in the, development plan
implementing this zoning. In particular, a swale through the
property shall be provided which approximates the dimensions of
the existing swale.
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3. Development of this parcel shall, to as great a degree as prac-
tical, be compatible with the proposed specific plan being prepared
for the area.
4. Development of this parcel shall allow for innovation in types and
placement of housing in the project.
5. Any future project proposed for this property shall be subject
to the filing and approval of a conditional use permit.
AYES: Kenefick, Paone, Winchell, Porter, Schumacher, Mahaffey
NOES: None
ABSENT:, Bannister
ABSTAIN: None
ON MOTION BY PORTER AND SECOND BY SCHUMACHER NEGATIVE DECLARATION
NO. 81-41 WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Kenefick, Paone, Winchell, Porter, Schumacher, Mahaffey
NOES: None
ABSENT: Bannister
ABSTAIN: None
ON MOTION BY PORTER AND SECOND BY SCHUMACHER ZONE CHANGE NO.
81-11 WAS APPROVED FOR RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR
APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS, BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
FINDINGS:
1. The zoning of this property to Q-R1-0-CD-15,000 is consistent
with the Huntington Beach General Plan and is compatible with
land use designations for the surrounding properties.
CONDITIONS OF THE "Q" ZONING:
1. Any future project approved for this parcel of land shall make
provisions for equestrian uses within the development.
2. Development of this parcel shall, to as great a degree as prac-
tical, be compatible with the proposed specific plan being
prepared for the area.
3. Development of this parcel shall allow for innovation in types
and placement of the housing in the project.
4. Any future project proposed for this property shall be subject
to the filing and approval of a conditional use permit.
AYES: Kenefick, Paone, Winchell, Porter, Schumacher, Mahaffey
NOES: None
ABSENT: Bannister
ABSTAIN: None
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SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO. 81-5
Applicant: Garfield Bank
Savoy Bellavia announced that applicant has submitted a letter of
withdrawal on this request. By consensus the Commission accepted
the applicant's request to withdraw Special Sign Permit No. 81-5.
CODE AMENDMENT NO. 81-15
An amendment to Article 979, Parking Requirements, of the Huntington
Beach Ordinance Code. Said amendment will amend the requirements per-
taining to physical protection of fencing and landscaping.
ON MOTION BY PORTER AND SECOND BY SCHUMACHER CODE AMENDMENT NO.
81-15 WAS CONTINUED TO THE MEETING OF NOVEMBER 17, 1981, BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE OF THE COMMISSIONERS PRESENT.
DISCUSSION ITEMS:
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 80-1
Request for amendment of Conditions of Approval
Commissioner Paone expressed his feeling that the response on the
question of whether or not the Commission could reconsider an item
after action had been taken was not adequate. After discussion,
legal counsel was instructed to provide a more definitive opinion to
guide the Commission; this opinion was requested for the next meeting.
ON MOTION BY KENEFICK AND SECOND BY PAONE THE REQUEST FOR AMENDMENT
TO CONDIITONS OF APPROVAL FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 80-1 WAS
CONTINUED TO THE MEETING OF NOVEMBER 17, 1981, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Kenefick,Paone, Winchell, Porter, Schumacher
NOES: None
ABSENT: Bannister, Mahaffey (left the meeting at 11:00)
ABSTAIN: None
ON MOTION BY PAONE AND SECOND BY SCHUMACHER AGENDA ITEM E-2 (CODE
AMENDMENT NO. 81-10) WAS CONTINUED TO THE MEETING OF NOVMEBER 17,
1981, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Kenefick, Paone, Winchell, Porter, Schumacher
NOES None
ABSENT: Bannister, Mahaffey
ABSTAIN: None
There was no further business and the meeting adjourned at 11:55 p.m.
to a study session to be held at 7:00 p.m. November 10, 1981.
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Grace H. Winchell, Chairman
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