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MINUTES
HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
Council Chambers - Civic Center
2000 Main Street
Huntington Beach, California
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 21, 1982 - 7:00 PM
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT:
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT:
Higgins, Livengood, Winchell, Porter,
Mirjahangir
Paone, Schumacher
The meeting was called to order by Vice -Chairman Mark Porter.
CONSENT CALENDAR:
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY WINCHELL THE CONSENT CALEN-
DAR, CONSISTING OF THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF
SEPTEMBER 8, 1982, AND AN EXTENSION OF TIME FOR CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT NO. 80-12, WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTES:
MINUTES: AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
EXTENSION
OF TIME: AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
Higgins, Livengood, Winchell
None
Paone, Schumacher
Porter, Mirjahangir
Higgins, Livengood, Winchell, Porter, Mirjahangir
None
Paone, Schumacher
None
REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS:
None
GENERAL PLAN CONFORMANCE NO. 82-4 (Cont. from September 7, 1982)
Applicant: Initiated by the Department of Community Services
To determine conformity with the General Plan of a proposal to
retain 2 ± acres as an addition to Irby Neighborhood Park and dec-
lare the remaining 6 ± acres of undeveloped park as Surplus to
the needs of the City. Subject property is located north of
Marilyn Drive and east of Dale Vista Lane.
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Acting Secretary Florence Webb made a brief presentation on the
nature of the action before the Commission and described the project.
Bob Aldrich described the additional information which staff has
submitted at the Commission's request on alternative land uses which
might be placed on the property, traffic and safety considerations
inherent in the various alternatives, and the legality of the City's
sale of park property. Staff reported that the Attorney's office
has researched the matter and found no deed restrictions limiting
the use of the land to park purposes; it was noted, however, that
any monies derived from the sale of the land were intended to go into
the general park funds and be used for the City park system.
The public hearing was opened.
Gerald Klein, an attorney, addressed the Commission to discuss the
concern. of the neighborhood to retain the park in its existing acreage.
He questioned the legality of the proposed sale, noting that a
written opinion should be submitted from the Attorney's office. It
was Mr. Kline's opinion that the gifts and dedications had incorpor-
ated the park into the General Plan and to sell acreage or otherwise
dispose of it would require a General Plan amendment. He also dis-
cussed the probable cost per residential unit for the subject land
after excavation and fill costs were included, and said that an envir-
onmental impact report was legally required for the conformance
finding.
Deborah Klein, 16731 Dale Vista Lane, distributed results of a survey
of the neighborhood to the Commission. She cited the main results
of the survey as showing that the residents wish to preserve the park
area; oppose construction of residential units on the site; have
questions about the agricultural use on the site because of possible
noise, dirt,and the operation of large equipment; and showed consid-
erable interest in the community garden concept. She urged the Com-
mission to explore all alternatives before making a finding.
Tom S. Miller, 16712 Kettler Lane, also opposed disposing of the
property and suggested use of the land by community groups such as
Boy Scouts for endeavors which are generally not provided for in
cities - bee keeping was one possibility set forth.
Barbara Flynn, 16731 Diane Lane, spoke in regard to the instability
of the soil in the subject area, citing hazards to buildings and in-
habitants which could result from extensive excavation and fill. She
also pointed out that the soils tests show the water table at 17 feet,
while the report says that excavation and fill may have to go to
20 feet in some locations, and questioned how that could occur with-
out affecting the surrounding water table in unknown and possibly
adverse fashion. Another objection of Ms. Flynn was that no indica-
tion has been given of what may lie below the 20-foot level to which
the soils report tested. Speaking again later in the meeting for
an absent resident, Ms. Flynn discussed possible alternative uses
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which could be placed on the property and urged that the request
not be found in conformance with the General Plan.
Theresa Ayers, 16781 Diane Lane, discussed the desirability and
feasibility of establishing a community garden project on the site.
There were no other persons to speak for or against the proposal,
and the public hearing was closed.
Acting Chairman Porter questioned staff in regard to the lack of
a written attorney's opinion, the requirement for an EIR, and the
legality of a finding of conformance for use of property designated
for public purposes for a non-public purpose.
Legal counsel Art Folger replied that a written opinion had been
prepared based upon citations of cases which were felt reliable
to support a finding of conformance. He also expressed the opinion
that an EIR should not be required at this point, but could be
prepared when addressing a specific project proposal for the site.
Staff planner Chuck Clark informed the Commission that the land
is designated "public space" in the Open Space/Conservation Element
of the General Plan but no mention is made of how much of that
land should be used for Irby Park; the property is designated as
"low density residential" on the Land Use Element because of the
primary character of the area and the size criteria (as are most of
the neighborhood parks in the City).
Vince Moorhouse, Director of Community Services, discussed the
nature of the park system in the City and precedents for the sale
of surplus park sites, emphasizing that monies derived from such
sales must be spent on the remainder of the park system. He ex-
pressed the opinion that the proposal for a 5-acre size for Irby
Park was in excess of normal neighborhood parks and recommended
that the sale be found in conformance with the General Plan.
Extensive Commission discussion took place, taking into considera-
tion the question of whether or not the Community Services Com-
mission had reviewed the alternative land uses set forth in the
Planning Commission staff report (Mr. Moorhouse reported that his
Commission had not had that opportunity); the adequacy of the size
of the proposed park; the economic feasibility of development
of the surplus area as residential; the focus of the action re-
quested of the Commission (i.e., the finding of conformance only,
not the consideration of any future development); and the possible
effects of excavation, fill, and new construction on the site.
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY MIRJAHANGIR GENERAL PLAN
CONFORMANCE NO. 82-4 (A REQUEST TO DECLARE A PORTION OF UNDEVELOPED
PARK LAND AS SURPLUS TO THE NEEDS OF THE CITY) WAS FOUND NOT TO
BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE GENERAL PLAN WITH THE FOLLOWING FINDING,
BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
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FINDING:
The request for General Plan Conformance No. 82-4 is found not to
comply with the goals and policies of the General Plan, Section
2.1.5.1(4)(c), relating to areas of restricted development due to the
existence of natural hazards.
AYES: Livengood, Winchell, Porter, Mirjahangir
NOES: Higgins
ABSENT: Paone, Schumacher
ABSTAIN: None
A discussion of procedure followed. Art Folger informed the Commission
that the only way the conformance would go on to the City Council would
be on appeal; lacking that, the City Council cannot act on the declara-
tion of the property as surplus without a finding of conformance.
USE PERMIT NO. 82-23 - APPEAL
Applicant: Ronald Wood/Bill Goodman
Appeal to conditions of approval imposed by the Board of Zoning Adjust-
ments pertaining to the side yard setback for a garage and a height
limit for a proposed garage on property located on the south side of
Williams Avenue approximately 300 feet east of Florida Street.
Howard Zelefsky explained the conditions of approval which are being
appealed - a requirement for five foot side yard setback and a height
restriction of 9 feet for garages constructed at zero setback on the
rear property line.
Commissioner Mirjahangir, appellant, discussed a recent code amendment
recommended by the Planning Commission to attempt to resolve inconsis-
tencies between the R2 standards and the apartment standards and noted
that this inconsistency has a bearing on the present application. He
said that adjacent to the existing commercial property there should
be no need to limit the height and there was definitely a need in the
City for the recreational vehicle storage which this project could pro-
vide to the tenants.
The public hearing was reopened.
Mr. Goodman, applicant, addressed the Commission in support of his
request. He also cited the need for recreational vehicle parking and
said that the five-foot side setback as conditioned by the Board
would only result in problems with trash and debris and vandalism.
There were no other persons to speak for or against the proposal, and
the public hearing was closed.
Savoy Bellavia explained that the height limit in both R2 and under
the apartment standards is 30 feet; however, it has been the consis-
tently applied policy for a number of years to restrict garage height
at zero setback to 9 feet. He also noted that in the past a conditional
exception had been required to allow that zero setback but a prior
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code revision had omitted both requirements; hence the need for
the previously mentioned code amendment to clarify those re-
quirements.
Bill Cooper of the Fire Department informed the Commission that
technically the UBC would require a totally improved roadway
back to the RV parking structure with'an onsite hydrant, but given
the 20 foot driveway and the fact that the regular parking spaces
were going to be open carports for the use of regular automobiles
only it is felt that the Fire Department could allow the struc-
ture provided it is fully sprinklered. He stressed that it would
not be strictly in compliance with code, but could be accepted.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY HIGGINS AND SECONDED BY LIVENGOOD TO UPHOLD
THE APPEAL TO THE CONDITIONS IMPOSED ON USE PERMIT NO. 82-32,
ALLOWING ZERO SIDE YARD SETBACK ON THREE SIDES AND GIVING THE
APPLICANT THE OPTION TO BUILD TO A NINE (9) FOOT GARAGE HEIGHT
OR TO BUILD A FIFTEEN (15) FOOT HIGH GARAGE STRUCTURE WITH A
FULL FIRE SPRINKLERING SYSTEM AS REQUIRED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT,
WITH ALL OTHER CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IMPOSED BY THE BOARD OF
ZONING ADJUSTMENTS.
Further discussion ensued. Les Evans responded to a direct ques-
tion from the Commission to say that end parking spaces require
a three foot greater width than inner ones, somewhat limiting
the maneuverability in the end units. Florence Webb commented
on the reasoning used by the Board in imposing its conditions,
noting that for eight apartment units the provision of 12 RV
spaces seemed excessive for the use of the tenants, and staff had
some reservations about the possibility of a commercial storage
facility operating in a residential district.
THE MOTION FAILED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Livengood, Mirjahangir
NOES: Winchell, Porter
ABSENT: Paone, Schumacher
ABSTAIN: None
A MOTION WAS MADE BY WINCHELL AND SECOND BY HIGGINS TO UPHOLD
THE FINDINGS AND DECISION OF THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENTS IN
REGARD TO USE PERMIT NO. 82-23. MOTION FAILED.BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, WInchell, Porter
NOES: Livengood, Mirjahangir
ABSENT: Paone, Schumacher
ABSTAIN: None
The appeal is automatically continued to the next regular meet-
ing of the Commission on October 5, 1982. Chairman Porter
directed staff to make sure that the absent commissioners be
asked to listen to the record of this public hearing so they
might participate in action at the next meeting.
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CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 82-42 - APPEAL
Applicant: John L. Peterson
To allow construction of a single-family dwelling with
the structure encroaching six inches into the required
property located on the east side of Main Street south
Avenue.
Savoy Bellavia briefly reviewed the proposal.
The public hearing was opened.
a portion of
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of Utica
John Peterson, applicant and appellant, spoke to the Commission in
support of his project. He cited problems along Main Street of vehicu-
lar and pedestrian traffic, noise, dirt, and security as reasons for
the request, along with the hardship imposed by the "no parking" on
Main Street in front of his lot. He also noted that the encroachment
requested is slight and that he considered his request a reasonable
proposal with no impact on neighboring properties.
Dave Frampton, owner and resident of the property directly adjacent
to the south, addressed the Commission to object to the proposed con-
struction, saying that a 20 foot long, 20 foot high blank wall adjac-
ent to his back yard would be totally inconsistent with the existing
character of the Rl neighborhood.
The public hearing was closed.
Commission discussion included the possibility of reorienting the
structure on the lot and the possibility of a lot line adjustment be-
tween the subject property and the lot directly to the north (also
owned by the present applicant). In response to questioning, staff
indicated that there would be no action the Commission could take to
prevent construction of the 20 foot high racquetball court as long as
it was built within the setbacks.
ON MOTION BY HIGGINS AND SECOND BY LIVENGOOD THE PLANNING COMMISSION
UPHELD THE DECISION OF THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENTS TO DENY CONDI-
TIONAL EXCEPTION NO, 82-42 WITH THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS, BY THE FOL-
LOWING VOTE:
FINDINGS:
1. There are no exceptional circumstances which apply to the prop-
erty that.deprive it of privileges normally enjoyed in the Rl
District. Dimensions of the property are adequate to accommodate
the proposed dwelling and ancillary facilities under a design that
would be fully in compliance with all applicable development
standards in the R1 District.
2. Granting of the conditional exception would constitute a grant
of special privilege inconsistent with normal limitations of the
R1 District and might set a precedent for future requests of
this nature.
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3. The conditional exception is not necessary for the preserva-
tion of one or more substantial property rights. There are
feasible alternatives to the proposal.
4. Granting of the conditional exception could be materially
detrimental to adjacent properties. The proposed encroach-
ment into the side yard setback area would place a structure
on the property at less than the minimum allowed distance
from the side property line.
AYES: Higgins, Livengood, Winchell, Porter, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Paone, Schumacher
ABSTAIN: None
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 82-23/NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 82-32
Applicant: Larry Nye, Agent for Hillcrest Baptist Church
To permit construction of an 8,100 square foot church facility
in conjunction with a 10,566 square foot medical building with
reciprocal parking provided on property located on the northeast
corner of Newman Avenue and Van Buren Street.
Savoy Bellavia reported that a letter has been received from
the applicant requesting a continuance to the next meeting.
No one was present to speak for or against the proposal, and
the public hearing was not opened.
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY WINCHELL CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT NO. 82-23 AND NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 82-32 WERE CONTIN-
UED TO THE MEETING OF OCTOBER 5, 1982, AT THE APPLICANT'S
REQUEST, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Livengood, Winchell, Porter, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Paone, Schumacher
ABSTAIN: None
CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 82-09/TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO. 82-566
Applicant: Khan Associates
To permit the division of an existing 96 foot wide lot into two
lots with 48 foot frontage each on property located east of Ash
Street approximately 115 feet south of Cypress Avenue.
Howard Zelefsky made a brief presentation of the.proposal, noting
that the code requires a 60 foot lot frontage which would allow
construction of 7 units under the apartment standards. The
divided lots, with substandard widths, would allow 8 units under
the R2 standards if granted.
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The public hearing was opened.
Ray Kahn, applicant, spoke in favor of his request. He stated that
it would improve the condition of the neighborhood, supply a need in
the City for small rental units, and allow the economic development
of the property. He also said that other lots in the immediate vic-
inity were less than 60 feet in width.
Fran Andrade, area resident, addressed the Commission in opposition
to the request.
There were no other persons to speak for or against the proposal,
and the public hearing was closed.
Commission discussion ensued. Staff pointed out that the subject
property is within the Oak View Redevelopment Project, where the
goal is to consolidate and recycle the existing fragmented lots to
upgrade the community.
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY WINCHELL CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION
NO. 82-09 AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO. 82-566 WERE DENIED WITH THE
FOLLOWING FINDINGS, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
FINDINGS - CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 82;09:
1. Exceptional circumstances do not apply that deprive the subject
property of privileges enjoyed on other properties in the vicinity.
There are no special topographic features or any unique character-
istics related to the land.
2. The granting of Conditional Exception No. 82-09 would constitute
a grant of special privilege inconsistent with limitations upon
properties in the vicinity.
3. The granting of the conditional exception would conflict with the
minimum requirements of Article 916 of the Huntington Beach
Ordinance Code.
FINDINGS - TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO. 82-566:
1. The proposed subdivision, which would create two 48 foot wide
lots, does not comply with the minimum standards of the ordinance
code.
2. The granting of the proposed subdivision would allow for an in-
crease in density by.one unit while maintaining substandard
sized parcels.
AYES: Higgins, Livengood, Winchell, Porter, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Paone, Schumacher
ABSTAIN: None
The applicant was advised of the appeal period and procedure.
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PRECISE PLAN OF STREET ALIGNMENT NO. 82-3/NEGATIVE DECLARATION 82-33
Applicant: Initiated by the City of Huntington Beach
To establish a 54 foot right-of-way in lieu of the current 60-foot
right-of-way for a portion of Cypress Avenue between Beach Boulevard
and Elm Street.
The public hearing was opened.
Fran Andrade requested clarification on the effect this precise
plan will have on the existing street. Staff replied that the pre-
cise plan will not narrow the street section itself, which will
remain at 40 feet curb face to curb face. The parkway will be re-
duced three feet on each side and trees will no longer be planted
there but will be required on the abutting private properties.
No costs will be incurred by adjacent properties until they develop,
and the new alignment should reduce property owners' future costs
as well as future required dedication.
Lupe DeRego, 7872 Cypress Street, was also present to discuss
the precise plan with the Commission and staff.
The public hearing was closed.
Commission review ensued.
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY HIGGINS THE COMMISSION ADOPTED
NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 82-33 AND APPROVED PRECISE PLAN OF STREET
ALIGNMENT NO. 82-3 FOR RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR
ADOPTION, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Livengood, Winchell, Porter, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Paone, Schumacher
ABSTAIN: None
ITEMS NOT FOR PUBLIC HEARING:
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 11831
Applicant: Campbell Trust
To permit the division of 6 acres of property located on the
north side of Talbert Avenue east of the Southern Pacific Railroad
tracks into 15 industrial lots.
Savoy Bellavia described the proposal and informed the Commission
that the most critical condition suggested is the requirement
for the street right-of-way to be installed between the subject
property and the present termination of Woodwind to the east, a
distance of approximately 330 feet. He noted that the right-of-
way for this street has been dedicated and there is a tentative
tract being processed on the property adjacent to the east.
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Dick Hammond of Cambro Manufacturing, representing the applicant,
expressed objection to the street requirement as being very costly
and unnecessary to provide access to his tract.
The Commission discussed the length of the only other access into
the tract, Sampson Lane, which was felt to be excessive and one that
would impact properties to the north. Timing schedules -for both
tracts were reviewed and it was the consensus that delay of the sub-
ject application until after processing of the easterly tract
would be desirable. After further discussion, Mr. Hammond agreed to
such continuance.
ON MOTION BY MIRJAHANGIR AND SECOND BY HIGGINS TENTATIVE TRACT NO.
11831 WAS CONTINUED TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF OCTOBER 19, 1982, WITH
THE CONCURRENCE OF THE APPLICANT, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Livengood, Winchell, Porter, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Paone, Schumacher
ABSTAIN: None
DISCUSSION ITEMS:
Board of Zoning Adjustments
Staff and the Commission discussed the report prepared by the Depart-
ment of Development Services to clarify the function and procedures
of the Board of Zoning Adjustments.
Acting Secretary Florence Webb reviewed the actions taken by the City
Council at the adjourned meeting on September 13 and the regular
meeting of September 20 for the Commission's information. She in-
formed them that a study session on the mobile home conversion ordin-
ance is scheduled for Monday, September 27, 1982, and a Planning Mode
study session is scheduled for October 25, 1982.
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ITEMS:
Savoy Bellavia requested direction from the Commission in regard to
the suggested action submitted with Precise Plan of Street Alignments
No. 82-3 - to investigate other 60 foot street segments in the City
which should be reduced to 54 feet and prepare precise plans to im-
plement those reduced widths.
ON MOTION BY WINCHELL AND SECOND BY LIVENGOOD STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO
PURSUE THE ABOVE ACTION, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Livengood, Winchell, Porter, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Paone, Schumacher
ABSTAIN: None
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COMMISSION ITEMS:
Commissioner Livengood requested and the Commission concurred
with his request that in future any letters prepared by the
staff for the signature of the Commission chairman be presented
to the full Commission for review prior to mailing, or at the
least to a selected number of individual commissioners.
Commissioner Winchell suggested that some type of graphic rep-
resentation be prepared to better delineate the difference
between an MH overlay and an actual MH rezoning in relation to
the mobile home zone change previously processed by the Commis-
sion and now under study by the City Council.
The meeting adjourned at 10:30 p.m.
Marcus Porte , Acti ha'rman
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Florence Webb, Acting Secretary
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