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HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNtNG COMMISSION
Council Chambers - Civic Center
2000 Main Street
Huntington Beach, California
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 16, 1982 - 7:00 PM
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Higgins, Livengood, Winchell, Paone, Porter,
Schumacher, Mirjahangir
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
Leigh Miller inquired about some open space that could be converted
into a trailer space at a mobile home park in the City. Chairman
Paone suggested that Mr. Miller get that information from staff.
CONSENT CALENDAR:
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY HIGGINS, THE CONSENT CALENDAR,
CONSISTING OF THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF NOVEMBER 2,
1982, AND A REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF TIME ON TENTATIVE TRACT 10910
AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 80-4, WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Livengood,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS:
Winchell, Paone, Porter, Schumacher,
LAND USE ELEMENT AMENDMENT NO. 82-1/ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT
NO. 82-3
Initiated by the City of Huntington Beach
This LUE includes a staff -initiated proposal to add density bonus
provisions for affordable housing to the General Plan and requests
for changes in land use designations in six areas which correspond
to the following zone changes: Nos. 82-12, 82-9, 82-18, 82-19,
82-16, 82-17, and 82-10 - also Code Amendment No. 82-12. Staff
recommends that public testimony be taken and that these items be
continued to the meeting of December 7, 1982, with the exception
of Zone Change No. 82-17, which should be continued to the Decem-
ber 21, 1982 meeting.
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Chairman Paone explained the overall procedure to the public. Florence
Webb elaborated on the Chairman's explanation, stating that because
of the large number of items and the fact that the 45-day review
period on the EIR will not end until December 3, 1982, a continuance
was recommended. Carol Inge gave a brief presentation on the LUE
and the density bonus provisions proposed.
Commissioner Porter stated his opinion regarding the procedure. He
preferred that the EIR be certified prior to taking testimony on the
land use element amendment.
The Chairman opened the public hearing on the density bonus provisions.
No one came forward to address this issue and the public hearing was
closed.
ZONE CHANGE NO. 82-12 (In conjunction with LUE 82-1, Area of Concern 2.1)
Applicant: Huntington Beach Company
The original request was to rezone 1.52 acres of property located
approximately 500 feet east of Main Street and 600 feet north of York-
town Avenue from R2-01-PD and R2-0-PD-CD to R5-0-CD. However, the
applicant has requested that an "0-1" designation be put on the prop-
erty so that present drilling activity can continue.
The public hearing was not opened on Zone Change No. 82-12. The pub-
lic hearing was opened on EIR 82-3 and LUE 82-1. Representing the
applicant, Dave Eadie stated that because of economics and because
the office park has access to the oil islands he supports the use of
continuing Chevron's operation of drilling on the site, which calls
for R5-01-CD. He further stated that the anticipated projection for
oil operations on the site was at least the next ten to fifteen
years. Nancy Schreiner spoke in opposition to the request; she felt
it would lower property values in the area.
ON MOTION BY HIGGINS AND SECOND BY LIVENGOOD ZONE CHANGE NO. 82-12
WAS CONTINUED TO THE MEETING OF DECEMBER 7, 1982, BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Livengood, Winchell, Paone, Porter, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
ZONE CHANGE NO. 82-9 (LUE 82-1, Area of Concern 2.2)
Applicant: M.D. Janes Company, Inc.
A request to rezone approximately 25 net acres of property located
on the east side of Goldenwest Street between Ellis and Talbert
Avenues from RA-O-CD and Ml-CD to R2-0. The existing use is the
mushroom farm.
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Staff gave a brief presentation stating that residential alterna-
tives were included in the report. Commissioner Porter felt that
because City Council has expressed a desire to explore the possi-
bility of affordable housing in the Central Park area this
,ossibility should be examined.
Commissioner Livengood asked if an appraisal could be done on the
property. Acting Secretary Webb explained that staff does not have
the authority to hire an appraiser. A straw vote revealed that no
other commissioners agreed with Mr. Livengood. However, Ms. Webb
said staff would be happy to supply the commissioners with estim-
ates and comparable prices on the property.
The public hearing was opened on Zone Change No. 82-9, which
is Area of Concern 2.2 on the LUE. George Alvarez, speaking on be-
half of the applicant, supported the proposed zone change, stating
that residential would not necessarily preclude the "open look" of
the area. Ron Dryer, also speaking for the proposal, stated that
the owner of the -property wishes to retire and would appreciate a
timely decision. The public hearing was closed.
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY HIGGINS ZONE CHANGE NO. 82-9
WAS CONTINUED TO THE MEETING OF DECEMBER 7, 1982, BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Livengood, Winchell, Paone, Porter, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
ZONE CHANGE NO. 82-18/ZONE CHANGE 82-19 (LUE 82-1, Areas of Con-
cern 2.3 and 2.4)
Owners: Huntington Beach Company and City of Huntington Beach
Zone Change 82-18 is a request by the Huntington Beach Company to
add an oil suffix to the northeast corner of its property located
between Cambro's operation and the City's water facility, which is
generally located on the west side of Huntington Street between
Clay and Garfield Avenues. Zone Change 82-19 is the City -owned
portion of the same area. This request is for Ml (Light Industrial)
zoning. Because of the close proximity of the properties, the two
zone changes were heard together along with the LUE Areas 2.3 and
2.4.
The public hearing was opened. The following persons spoke against
the proposed zone changes: Robert Trommler, Nancy Schreiner, Jerry
Ford, Suzanne Horsburgh, Dean Albright, Mark Price, Donald Pierce,
Bob Wilson, and Jim Craigens. The main concern was about the noise
factor with the existing Cambro plant along with an anticipated
increase in noise with a possible expansion of the operation. Other
concerns were raised relative to a transportation corridor along the
railroad right-of-way. Dick Hammond, general manager for Cambro,
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spoke in favor of the proposed zone changes. He further felt that
the company has attenuated the noise level to a minimum. The public
hearing was closed on Zone Changes 82-18 and 82-19.
Con':.issioners discussed the Pacific Electric right-of-way and the
noise problem. Commissioner Schumacher suggested a qualified zoning
be placed on the property so that conditions could be added address-
ing the noise problem. There was discussion about projected oil
operations in the area.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY SCHUMACHER AND SECONDED BY PORTER TO ADD THE "Q"
DESIGNATION TO THE REQUEST AND INSTRUCT STAFF TO READVERTISE THE ZONE
CHANGE (82-18) TO REFLECT THIS CHANGE IN THE REQUEST.
Following discussion, this motion was amended to be M1-A-0-Q and to
require a conditional use permit application to be heard by the Plan-
ning Commission. After`additional discussion the final motion was
made as follows:
ON MOTION BY SCHUMACHER AND SECOND BY PORTER STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO
READVERTISE THE ZONE CHANGES REGARDING THIS AREA, LEAVING THE OIL
DESIGNATION WHERE REQUIRED, REQUIRING A "Q" DESIGNATION WHERE REQUIRED
ON THE CAMBRO DEVELOPMENT, AND REQUIRING SUBMITTAL OF A CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Livengood, Winchell, Paone, Porter, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
ON MOTION BY HIGGINS AND SECOND BY LIVENGOOD ZONE CHANGE NO. 82-18
AND ZONE CHANGE NO. 82-19 WERE CONTINUED TO THE MEETING OF DECEMBER
7, 1982, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Livengood,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Winchell, Paone, Porter, Schumacher,
The Chairman called a three -minute recess in the meeting.
ZONE CHANGE 82-16/CODE AMENDMENT 82-12 (LUE 82-1, Area of Concern 2.4)
Applicant: Huntington Harbour Beach Club and Marina Landal
Development and Pacific Development, Inc.
The zone change and code amendment would establish a specific plan
on 13.7 acres of property located on the north side of Warner Avenue
between Edgewater and Sceptre Lanes, rezoning the property from ROS to
Huntington Harbour Bay Club Specific Plan. The purpose of the plan
is to permit a mix of open space and recreational uses, commercial
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uses, residential uses, a public marina, parking, and uses inci-
dental to these activities.
Claudette Dupuy of staff explained on the LUE portion of the plan
only recreational and residential -uses would be allowed; that the
zoning would be handled by the specific plan. Jim Barnes gave
a presentation on the zone change and the code amendment. He
stated that the specific plan was prepared by the applicant and
reviewed by the staff establishing specific standards for use of
the property. One area of the plan would permit the construction
of 48 residential.units which would be consistent with the recom-
mendation of the land use element amendment. Commissioners had
some questions about the density of other comparable condominiums
and the possibility of obstructing the view with regard to Coastal
Act regulations. Commissioner Schumacher inquired as to the
highest the building can be constructed under the specific plan.
Mr. Barnes said that, although the plan speaks of a 45-foot building,
with the measurement calculated at ground level it could be as
high as 55 feet above existing grade. In actual stories, that
would translate to four or five.
The public hearing was opened. Dick Harlow gave a presentation
in favor of granting the request. He recited a historical account
of the club area, updating that to the recent denial by the City
Council of the previously proposed "guest cottages." The following
persons spoke in opposition to the zone change and the code amend-
ment:
Louis Cardenas
John Cronn
Ed Sundberg
Marvin Beitner
Mr. Weeland
Ken Kirk
Michael Cavallo
Luanna Young
Chuck Ford
Lee Whittenberg
Donald Altig
Bonnie Altig
Frank Weber
Pauline Robison
Peter Young
Morris Stone
Dean Albright
Mrs. Schwartz
The following persons spoke in favor of the proposed plan:
Sheldon Grossman Jim Sargeant Shell Grossman
Chuck Bennett Ken Moody Harold Prouse
Donald Watson Dick Kagasoff Doctor Ben
Bill Hartge John Silver Doris Ahadpour
Neal Wells Peter Shore (owner)
On the opposing side, a petition was submitted with over 1,000
signatures. Also, such issues were raised as the tennis club
members being "forced" to lose their membership and join somewhere
else; that the concept of recreation open space presented in the
beginning would be changed; that the proposed density would cause
traffic problems; that views would be obstructed; and that it
would be inconsistent with the coastal regulations by not provid-
ing adequate access to the waterways. Arguments in favor stated
that the propssed development would improve the "live aboard" prob-
lem that currently exists; that it would benefit the community
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as a whole; and that it was the best plan that has been proposed so
far. It was also pointed out that the petitions received against
the proposal may have been misleading, as most of those signing the
petition were opposed to the opening of Edgewater Lane, which was
erroneous information.
The public hearing was closed on Zone Change No. 82-16 and Code
Amendment No. 82-12. A straw vote was taken on Commissioner Liven -
good's suggestion that staff be directed to prepare alternate find-
ings for denial, with result as follows:
OPPOSED TO SUGGESTION: Higgins, Winchell, Paone, Mirjahangir
IN FAVOR OF SUGGESTION: Porter, Schumacher, Livengood .
Commissioner Porter asked staff to explore what impact the addition-
al slips in the marina would have on the parking and to investigate
just how much of the parking could be attributed to "live aboards."
There was some concern about the liquefaction of the ground, whether
the building would sink, or the possibility of water getting into
the subterranean garages if there was a severe tide change. Commis-
sioners wanted to know what the acreage and density were on the
Weatherly Bay condominiums.
ON MOTION BY PORTER AND SECOND BY LIVENGOOD ZONE CHANGE NO. 82-16
AND CODE AMENDMENT NO. 82•-12 WERE CONTINUED TO THE MEETING OF DECEM-
BER 7, 1982, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Livengood,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None.
ABSTAIN: None
Winchell, Paone, Porter, Schumacher,
ZONE CHANGE NO. 82-17 (LUE 82-1, Area of Concern 2.5)
Initiated by the City of Huntington Beach
A request to rezone 5.47 acres of property located at 17161
Gothard Street between Ocean View High School and the City Mainten-
ance Yard, from Ml (Light Industrial) to MH (Mobile Home). The
public hearing was opened. Leigh Miller spoke in favor of the pro-
posed zone change on behalf of the owner of the Beachview Mobile
Home Park. The public hearing was closed on Zone Change No. 82-17.
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY PORTER ZONE CHANGE NO. 82-17
WAS CONTINUED UNTIL THE MOBILE HOME ORDINANCE BECOMES EFFECTIVE, BY
THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Livengood, Winchell, Paone, Porter, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
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A MOTION WAS THEN MADE BY PORTER AND SECONDED BY PAONE TO RECON-
SIDER THE LAST MOTION: MOTION CARRIED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Livengood, Winchell, Paone, Porter, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Schumacher
ABSTAIN: None
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY HIGGINS ZONE CHANGE NO.
82-17 WAS CONTINUED TO THE MEETING OF DECEMBER 21, 1982, DUE TO
THE FACT THAT THE MOBILE HOME ORDINANCE BECOMES EFFECTIVE ON
DECEMBER 14, 1982, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Livengood, Winchell, Paone, Porter, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Schumacher
ABSTAIN: None
Zone Change No. 82-10 (LUE 82-1, Area of Concern 2.6)
Initiated by the City of Huntington Beach
A request to rezone 1.2 acres of property located at the south-
west corner of Banning Avenue and Magnolia Street from Ml-A to
R1 (Low Density Residential).
The public hearing was opened on the zone change. Robert Overby
spoke against the proposed change of zone. He stated that at the
August 3, 1982 Planning Commission when the item was tabled the
Commission had said the 48 persons signing a petition submitted
against the change of zone would be notified.
ON MOTION BY PORTER AND SECOND BY WINCHELL STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO
REVIEW THE TAPE OF THE AUGUST 3, 1982 MEETING REGARDING SPECIAL
NOTIFICATION INSTRUCTIONS AND TO ASSURE THAT ALL AREAS OF CONCERN
RAISED AT THAT MEETING HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND
THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Livengood,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Winchell, Paone, Porter, Schumacher
The public hearing on Zone Change No. 82-10 was closed.
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY PORTER ZONE CHANGE NO. 82-10
WAS CONTINUED TO THE MEETING OF DECEMBER 7, 1982, BY THE FOLLOW-
ING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Livengood, Winchell, Paone, Porter, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
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LAND USE ELEMENT AMENDMENT NO. 82-1/ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT 82-3
A MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD AND SECONDED BY PORTER THAT LAND USE
ELEMENT AMENDMENT NO. 82-1 AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT NO. 82-3 BE
CONTINUED TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF DECEMBER 7, 1982, AND THAT THE
PUBLIC HEARING THEREON BE LIMITED TO NEW TESTIMONY ONLY.
Staff Planner Florence Webb pointed out that staff is recommending that
the public hearing on EIR 82-3 be closed so that staff can take the pub-
lic testimony received thus far, respond to it, and incorporate both
comments and responses into the final document. Discussion ensued be-
tween staff and the Commission regarding the appropriate procedural
steps to be followed. Commissioner Livengood clarified his motion by
statinq that it had not been his intent to close the public hearing on
anything, but to leave the Chairman free to limit further testimony
to new information only. He added that he would prefer to leave
the hearing open.
Secretary Palin explained the EIR process - a public hearing at which
oral comments are accepted is required to be held during the 45-day
posting period for the EIR, and written comments must be accepted up
to the end of that 45 day period, in this case the third of December.
The final EIR will be comprised of this draft EIR with the supplemental
information and responses; this is the document that the Commission
must certify as adequate prior to action on the entitlement requests.
He added that leaving the public hearing open to the next meeting would
mean that comments might be made at that time which the staff would
not have time to address and incorporate into the final EIR as required
for compliance with CEQA. This in turn could pose legal problems and
leave the action of the City on the EIR open to challenge. Art Folger
of the City Attorney's office concurred with this explanation, adding
that leaving the Chairman the discretion of determining what new
testimony would be accepted at a continued public hearing, as suggested
by the motion, would tend to make the action on the EIR more "attackable"
and subject to successful challenge.
WITH THE CONCURRENCE -OF THE SECOND, LIVENGOOD AMENDED HIS MOTION TO
STATE THAT LAND USE ELEMENT AMENDMENT NO. 82-1 AND ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT REPORT NO. 82-3 BE CONTINUED TO THE DECEMBER 7, 1982 REGULAR
MEETING. THE AMENDED MOTION FAILED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Livengood, Porter, Schumacher
NOES: Higgins, Winchell, Paone, Mirjahangir
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Chairman Paone closed the public hearing on Environmental Impact
Report No. 82-3.
Commissioner Schumacher requested that staff submit information con-
cerning the past history and present status of the Huntington Harbour
Bay Club property; she also asked what the reasons were for the change of
zone on the property from R1 to ROS which was made some years ago.
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Other areas of concern involve the deeds and dedication on the
original tract map in the area and the desirability of establish-
ing pierhead lines in the bay. Chairman Paone stressed that it
is important for the Commission to understand the possible legal
ramifications of documents submitted by the applicant, and by
consensus the Commission directed staff to provide the above in-
formation as a background report to the land use element amend-
ment for that area.
ON MOTION BY HIGGINS AND SECOND BY SCHUMACHER LAND USE ELEMENT
AMENDMENT NO. 82-1 WAS CONTINUED TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF
DECEMBER 7, 1982 BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Livengood, Winchell, Paone, Porter, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
At the suggestion of Commissioner Higgins, a straw vote was taken
to determine if Zone Change No. 82-10 (for Area of Concern 2.6,
Banning Avenue at Magnolia Street) should be readvertised by staff
to add a PD, Planned Development, suffix to the proposed low
density zoning.
The vote produced the following results, and staff was directed
to proceed with the readvertising:
AYES: Higgins, Livengood, Winchell, Paone, Porter, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
ZONE CHANGE NO. 82-20
Initiated by the City of Huntington Beach
A request to permita change of zone on approximately 20 acres of
property located southwesterly of the proposed extension of Palm
Avenue and the proposed future alignment of 38th Street from
R4-0 to R4-21-0, High Density Residential District combined with
Oil Production, having a maximum of 21 units per acre.
The public hearing was opened. Seeing no one come forward, the
public hearing was closed.
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY WINCHELL ZONE CHANGE NO.
82-20 WAS CONTINUED TO THE MEETING OF DECEMBER 7, 1982, BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Livengood,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Winchell, Paone, Porter, Schumacher
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SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO. 82-6
Applicant: Superior Electrical Ad
A request to permit an additional freestanding sign within 180 feet
of an existing freestanding sign, in lieu of a 600 foot separation,
on property located in the Huntington Shopping Center on Edinger
Avenue. Because the hour was late, the applicant agreed to a con-
tinuance; therefore, the public hearing was not opened. Chairman
Paone assured the applicant that the special sign permit applica-
tion would be heard first on the December 7 agenda.
ON MOTION BY HIGGINS AND SECOND BY PORTER SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO.
82-6 WAS CONTINUED WITH THE CONSENT OF THE APPLICANT TO THE MEETING
OF DECEMBER 7, 1982, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Livengood,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
ITEMS NOT FOR PUBLIC HEARING:
ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION NO. 82-2
Winchell, Paone, Porter, Schumacher,
Applicant: Primo Market
A request to permit the extended use of a nonconforming roof sign
at an existing building in the Five Points shopping center. The
applicant was not present.
ON MOTION BY HIGGINS AND SECOND BY LIVENGOOD ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION
NO. 82-2 WAS CONTINUED TO THE MEETING OF DECEMBER 7, 1982, BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES:
Higgins, Livengood,
Mirjahangir
NOES:
None
ABSENT:
None
ABSTAIN:
None
DISCUSSION ITEMS:
None.
Winchell, Paone, Porter, Schumacher,
ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business before the Planning Commission,
the meeting was adjourned at 12:45 a.m. to the next regular meeting
of December 7, 1982.
J,gmds W. Palin, Secretary Tim Paone, Chairman
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