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MINUTES
HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
Council Chambers - Civic Center
2000 Main Street
Huntington Beach, California
TUESDAY, JUNE 19, 1984 - 6:00 PM
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Porter (6:50)
Erskine, Schumacher, Mirjahangir (6:15)
The meeting was called to order by Acting Chairman Livengood
at 6:05 p.m.
CONSENT CALENDAR:
The minutes of the meeting of May 1, 1984 were pulled from the
consent calendar for separate consideration. The minutes were
continued from the previous meeting because of a missing page
which is now included.
-, ON MOTION BY HIGGINS AND SECOND BY WINCHELL THE MINUTES OF THE
REGULAR MEETING OF MAY 1, 1984 WERE APPROVED AS AMENDED BY COM-
MISSIONER WINCHELL, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: Porter, Mirjahangir
ABSTAIN: Erskine, Schumacher
ON MOTION BY WINCHELL AND SECOND BY HIGGINS THE REMAINDER OF THE
CONSENT CALENDAR, CONSISTING OF UNDERGROUND UTILITY DISTRICT OF
SEVENTEENTH STREET AND UTICA AVENUE, EXTENSION OF TIME FOR TT 11603
AND EXTENSION OF TIME FOR TT 11673, WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Schumacher
NOES: None
ABSENT: Porter, Mirjahangir
ABSTAIN: None
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None
PLANNING COMMISSION ITEMS:
Commissioner Erskine discussed how other jurisdictions are comply-
ing with the Mello Bill (SB 626) and indicated that he has asked
for a report on how Huntington Beach is complying. Chairman
Livengood directed that this report be added to the pending items
list.
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June 19, 1984
Page 2
REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS:
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 84-16/NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 84-15
Applicant: Edward McCoy, Director, Humana Hospital Huntington Beach
To permit the addition of 20,020 square feet of floor area to
an exisitng hospital located on the east side of Beach Boulevard
south of Newman Avenue.
Staff reported that a letter has been received from the applicant
concurring with a.continuance to allow this application to be con-
sidered at the same time as a proposed medical office building on
property directly north of the hospital site.
ON MOTION BY HIGGINS AND SECOND BY SCHUMACHER CONDITIONAL USE PER-
MIT NO. 84-16 AND NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 84-15 WERE CONTINUED TO
THE MEETING OF JULY 10, 1984, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Schumacher
NOES: None
ABSENT: Porter, Mirjahangir
ABSTAIN: None
HOUSING ELEMENT AMENDMENT NO. 84-1
Applicant: City of Huntington Beach
A proposed amendment to the Housing Element updating the statistical
information contained in the element, adding new sections required
by State law (Coastal Housing, Energy Conservation, Evaluation of
Past Effectiveness of the Element) and adding new policies and pro-
grams undertaken by the City since adoption of the Element in
November 1979.
Commissioner Schumacher asked why reference to the flood plain regu-
lations is not made in the element, saying that these regulations have
a very•significant effect upon housing in the City. Staff replied
that such considerations are normally addressed in the Safety Element
of the General Plan but can be included also in the Housing Element.
Commissioner Erskine discussed the possibility of including median
income figures for the City as well as for the county in the docu-
ment, and Commissioner Livengood asked that all figures given should
indicate the dates when those figures were revised.
The public hearing was opened.
Shirley Long, representing the Board of Realtors, spoke to the Com-
mission on the following points:
5.2 Retrofitting: Urged that retrofitting requirements for energy
conservation not be•imposed upon resale, but -that these standards
apply.only to new construction.
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8.5 Preserving Affordability: Ms. Long said that the state-
ments in this section seem to favor rental versus ownership
housing, and it is the Board's feeling that the goal of afford-
able ownership housing is also a worthy one and should
receive more concern.
8.2 Adequate Provisions: She suggested that a policy statement
referring to conversions might appropriately be added to the
other policies contained in this section.
Median Sales Price: Ms. Long indicated that the median sales
price of all residential listings sold in 1983 was $132,785.
There were no other persons to speak in regard to the housing
element, and the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Livengood recommended that the average sales
price for 1983 as noted by Ms. Long*be included; but that it
,be by number of bedrooms in the resale and that a qualifier be
included to indicate that the information came from the Board of
Realtors. Commissioner Erskine suggested that a sentence be
added to "Policies," paragraph 3, to read."In some cases the con-
version of apartments to condominiums would provide low and
moderate income housing." After discussion, staff was directed
to provide wording for the above, to be considered by the Com-
mission later in the meeting.
The Commission discussed the question of energy retrofitting,
considering the present state and federal tax incentives pro-
vided for this purpose and the programs already undertaken by
the utility companies.
Jeanine Frank submitted the following wording for S. 8.5.1:
regulate the conversion of existing apartment units to
condominiums to minimize the adverse impact of such conversion
on low and moderate income rental housing, keeping in mind that
conversion may at times provide opportunities for home owner-
ship."
BY THE FOLLOWING STRAW VOTE THE COMMISSION ACCEPTED THE NEW
WORDING:
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Porter
ABSTAIN: None
Commissioner Erskine suggested that the word "could" be replaced
by "may" in the policy section referring to energy retrofitting.
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BY THE FOLLOWING STRAW VOTE THE COMMISSION DETERMINED TO ACCEPT
THE REVISED WORDING ABOVE:
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Porter
ABSTAIN: None
BY THE FOLLOWING STRAW VOTE THE COMMISSION DETERMINED TO INCLUDE
THE MEDIAN SALES PRICE SUBMITTED BY MS. LONG WITH A DISCLAIMER
INDICATING THAT THE INFORMATION WAS COMPILED BY THE BOARD OF
REALTORS:
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Porter
ABSTAIN: None
BY THE FOLLOWING STRAW VOTE THE COMMISSION DETERMINED TO INCLUDE
INFORMATION AND MAPS FOR THE ADOPTED FLOOD PLAIN PROGRAM WITHIN
THE HOUSING ELEMENT:
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Porter
ABSTAIN: None
BY THE FOLLOWING STRAW VOTE THE COMMISSION DETERMINED TO INCLUDE
THE DATES ON WHICH ALL TABLES CONTAINED WITHIN THE ELEMENT WERE
REVISED:
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Porter
ABSTAIN: None
ON MOTION BY ERSKINE AND SECOND BY HIGGINS NEGATIVE DECLARATION
NO. 84-17 WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Porter
ABSTAIN: None
ON MOTION BY ERSKINE AND SECOND BY HIGGINS HOUSING ELEMENT AMEND-
MENT NO. 84-1 WAS APPROVED AS MODIFIED ABOVE, THROUGH THE ADOPTION
OF RESOLUTION NO. 1323, AND RECOMMENDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR
ADOPTION, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
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AYES: Higgins, Winchell,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Porter
ABSTAIN: None
Livengood, Erskine, Schumacher,
Marcus -Porter arrived at the meeting.at this point and took
over the chair (6:50 p.m.).
Because it was not yet 7:00 p.m., the hour for which the public
hearing on Environmental Impact Report No. 83-3 had been ad-
vertised, Chairman Porter directed that a non-public hearing
item be heard at this time.
ITEM NOT FOR PUBLIC HEARING:
SITE PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 84'-10
Applicant: Alltrans
A request to permit the leasing and sale of automobiles within an
existing 13,165 square foot building in a mixed use development
located on the east side of Gothard Street approximately 1200
feet south of Heil Avenue.
Michael Adams explained that auto repair already is taking place
in the subject building. Because of the mixed use nature of the
total project, it is necessary to trade off the square footage
which will be used by the proposed auto leasing for a like area
elsewhere in the development, but the percentage of commercial
will remain the same - approximately 33 percent out of a maximum
allowable 35 percent. Staff has determined that this transfer
from one suite to another will not affect the onsite parking or
other development considerations within the project.
The Commission reviewed the request and discussed the level of
commercial activity in this particular project. Commissioner
Winchell noted that there appears to be a great deal of traffic
congestion at the site, and staff was directed to review the
mix, percentage, and specific siting of the commercial and report
back for the Commission's information.
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY HIGGINS SITE PLAN AMENDMENT
NO. 84-10 WAS APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS AND
RESOLUTION NO. 1263 WAS APPROVED AS REVISED TO PERMIT AUTO
LEASING WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL:
1. The site plan and floor plans received and dated February 27,
1984, shall be the approved layout.
2. All previous conditions of approval contained within Condi-
tional Use Permit No. 80-16 shall remain in effect.
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3. The proposed use shall comply with all fire and building codes
prior to the sale or lease of automobiles within the existing
building.
4. No outside display of vehicles for sale or lease will be.
permitted.
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Porter, Erskine,
Schumacher, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Applicant was advised of the appeal period and procedure.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT 'REPORT NO. 83-3 (Cont. from April 24, 1984)
An analysis of a general plan amendment and prezone request to
redesignate 42.4 acres located in the unincorporated Bolsa Chica
area of Orange County at the terminus of Graham Street.between the
Orange County Flood Control Channel and a point approximately 1400
feet south of Graham Street from planning reserve to low density
residential, and to prezone the same property low density residen-
tial (Rl).
Commissioner Erskine announced that he will continue to abstain
from discussion and voting on this item.
Howard Zelefsky briefly discussed new information distributed to
the Commission and Informed the Commission of .letters received from
three state agencies in regard to the EIR. The Department of Fish
and Game maintains its position that the EIR should not be certified
(a position with which City planning staff disagrees); the Coastal '
Conservancy's letter indicates that the project is not incompatible
with the planning efforts in the Bolsa Chica; and the County EMA
repeats its past concerns. ?
Florence Webb updated the Commission on the status of ongoing plans
for the Bolsa Chica and described the recently adopted City Council
resolution outlining the City's concerns in the areas of circula-
tion, service delivery, land use planning, and ocean access. Tom
Livengood directed that this resolution be circulated to interested
groups in the community.
Ms. Webb pointed out that an EIR is intended only to be a good
faith effort to address environmental information available at the
time it is prepared. In reply to the comments received in regard to
the timing of the proposal, she said that any future information.
which may surface as a result of the County's or the Conservancy's
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plans can be addressed in the future, with the possibility of a
new environmental documentation if such plans result in drastic
changes in the existing conditions. Ms. -Webb also explained
the one-year deadline for the EIR, which expires August 17,
1984, and emphasized the need for action to be taken in some
manner before that date so that the EIR does not automatically
become approved.
The public hearing was reopened.
Lynette Cervantes from Van Dell & Associates explained the
mitigation matrix and the other supplementary information sub-
mitted, adding that these items will be incorporated into the
final EIR. Chairman Porter directed that the testimony given
at this meeting also be incorporated as part of the documenta-
tion, by reference or in the file.
Ms. Cervantes discussed the Woodward Clyde report for the area
in regard to liquefaction, subsidence, and surface faulting.
She said the report indicates that liquefaction is likely to
occur in the area south of the subject property; that the sub-
sidence rate for the subject property is only moderate (.2"
for subject parcel, .3" for the existing adjacent residential,
and 1" per year for the oil fields); and surface faulting is
not considered a problem on the site which is 1000 feet from
the north branch of the Newport/Inglewood fault.
Ms. Cervantes further informed the Planning Commission
that her firm had held meetings with the State agencies to try
to ascertain precisely what they wanted altered in the EIR,
and were given no specific mitigations or methodology; the
overriding concern.of those agencies was with the timing'of the
project. She expressed the opinion that this project would not
preclude any of the planning options for the land use plan for
the Bolsa Chica and noted that all of the impacts identified
in the Woodward Clyde report are mitigable. .
Darlene Frost, Project Manager for Signal Landmark, said she
felt that there is insufficient information in the'EIR to make
a determination as to whether the impacts have been adequately
addressed. She questioned the City's jursidiction over the
project, conceding that the City does have a legitimate planning
interest but the jurisdiction rests with the County and the
Conservancy. Ms. Frost indicated that Fish and Game, in a
recent letter to the Fieldstone Company, had said that 75 per-
cent of the subject site is considered as wetlands by that
agency. It was her contention that it is too soon in the
planning process to approve the EIR and that any approval would
be open to challenge; she urged to Commission to at least table
the document until planning has been completed for the total
Bolsa Chica.
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Andy Durham,. representing the Fieldstone Company, spoke in sup-
port of the EIR, saying that it is consistent with both the Bolsa
Chica planning efforts and with the resolution adopted by the
Huntington Beach City Council. In response to questioning from
Chairman Porter, Mr. Durham said that his company.is prepared to
engage in additional environmental assessment on the property at
some point -in the future during the entitlement stage if necessary.
Rhoda Martyn speaking for the Amigos De Bolsa Chica, said that
their review has found a number of important and substantive con-
cerns still unaddressed: 1) the desilting basin; 2) a critical
lack of information on•elevations; 3) no response has been made
to the comments of the Department of Fish and Game; and 4) geo-
technical concerns need to be addressed. She concluded by saying
that it is clear that the EIR does not meet the requirements of
the law and further information must be provided before it is
approved.
Dick Harlow, representing Fieldstone, addressed some of the com-
ments submitted. In speaking to the elevations, he noted that the
bulkhead is really dependent on the adoption of one of the plans
for the Bolsa Chica itself - as the area presently exists there is
no need for any fill to accommodate development on the subject prop-
erty. He also expressed the opinion that the EIR is consistent
with the County's and the Conservancy's plans.
Dean Albrite spoke to protest what he termed the "giving''away" of
natural resources such as the Bolsa Chica in the State of Calif-
ornia.
There were no other persons to speak for or against the EIR, and
the public hearing was closed.
Very extensive discussion took place regarding the timing and,pro-
cessing of the EIR, the definition and treatment of wetlands, and
the adequacy of the EIR in the areas of elevations, biological re-
sources, geotechnical impacts, the desilting basin, etc.
The Commission considered whether or not.it is possible to certify
the environmental document for this small parcel of the Bolsa Chica
when the total planning for the entire area is not completed. Staff
pointed out that the County has already certified an EIR for the
total area, which will go before the Coastal Commission. Secretary
Palin explained -that the EIR under review here has been prepared as
a first step in the process of annexation, although no application
for annexation has been received by the City. If the EIR is certi-
fied and the City adopts the requested General Plan amendment and
prezoning, all three items (EIR, amendment, and zoning) would have
to go before the Coastal -Commission for certification, as this area
is not a part of the City's Local Coastal Plan and permitting auth-
ority remains with the Coastal Commission unless and until the area
falls within the City's boundaries.
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In the discussion regarding elevations, Commissioner Livengood
suggested modifying the EIR language to delete the word "minor"
from the description. Ms. Cervantes indicated that as the
property exists now there are minor alterations, but the testi-
mony presented by the Amigos de Bolsa Chica was made in refer-
ence to the possible tidal influence of a possible future ocean
cut. She indicated that with the introduction of the tidal
barrier there would be a difference, but the distance between
the location of that barrier and the subject property should
provide adequate space to take up those elevations and meet the
existing grades. It was her opinion that merely changing the
wording would not be sufficient to mitigate their concern.
In the.discussion on wetlands, Commissioner Winchell said that
the document assumes -the Signal Bolsa definition of wetlands as
.opposed, to that of the Department of Fish and Game. By starting
with that assumption, the impacts that might be true using the
expertise of Fish and Game have not been addressed; these im-
pacts should be included in the EIR also, or at least a reference
made that Fish and Game does present a different definition of
wetlands. In this regard, Howard Zelefsky clarified the contents
of the letter from Fish and Game to the Fieldstone Company as
saying .. regarding wetland acreage, utilizing perhaps 75
percent (or30 acres) would have to be ensured. On the other
hand, it is not possible to restore 30 acres due to surrounding
development. Accordingly, Fieldstone's restoration would occur
offsite." He noted that this information could be incorporated
into the document and distributed to the community. Also in
this regard, Florence Webb quoted the letter -from the Coastal
Conservancy (charged with the responsibility of preparing the
Habitat Conservation Plan and acting as "middleman" in the Bolsa
Chica planning process) as stating: "It is highly unlikely that
the HCP and*the Fieldstone plans would be incompatible . . only
issues are the acres of wetlands Fieldstone must restore and the
size and nature of the settlement basin:"
A MOTION WAS MADE BY HIGGINS AND SECONDED BY SCHUMACHER TO ACCEPT
FINAL EIR 83-3. AND RECOMMEND IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR CERTIFI-
CATION. MOTION FAILED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Schumacher
NOES: Winchell, Livengood, Porter, Mirjahangir
ABSENT: - None
ABSTAIN: Erskine
Further discussion ensued concerning the adequacy of the informa-
tion in the EIR, the time constraints imposed bylaw upon the
processing of the EIR, and the desirability of action being
taken which would enable the City'Council to conduct public hear-
ings prior to the August 17 date upon which the EIR would
automatically be considered certified. Legal counsel advised
that a finding of inadequacy with a recommendation to the City
Council for denial would move the -public hearing process ahead
for Council consideration.
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ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY MIRJAHANGIR ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT REPORT NO. 83-3 WAS FOUND INADEQUATE, WITH A RECOMMENDATION
TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT.IT NOT BE CERTIFIED, BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
AYES:
Winchell,
NOES:
Higgins,
ABSENT:
None
ABSTAIN:
Erskine
Livengood, Porter, Mirjahangir
Schumacher
A MOTION WAS MADE BY WINCHELL TO ADD AS A FINDING TO THE ABOVE
ACTION THAT A KEY REASON FOR FAILURE TO CERTIFY THE EIR WAS THE
ABSENCE OF A FINAL LOCAL COASTAL PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE BOLSA CHICA
AREA TO PERMIT IDENTIFICATION OF SPECIFIC, SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS AND
MITIGATION MEASURES; E.G., BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES, ELEVATIONS, THE
DESILTING BASIN, ETC.
The motion was discussed by the Commission, and died for lack of
a second.
The meeting recessed at 8:20 and reconvened at 8:30 p.m.
ZONE CASE NO. 84-3/NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 84-11 (Cont. from 6-5-84)
Applicant: Ascon Properties Inc.
To permit a change of zone from LUD-0 (Limited Use District com-
bined with Oil) to LUD-Ol-Q (Limited Use District combined with
Oil Production with a "Q" (Qualified) Suffix) for property located
on the southwest corner of Hamilton Avenue and Magnolia Street.
Howard'Zelefsky reported that the notification problem has been
corrected and all property owners within 2000 feet of the subject
property have now been notified. Mr. Zelefsky reviewed the pro-
posed conditions of approval for the "Q" Suffix in regard to
limitation of the site area, sound proofing, and access, and called
attention to the recommended change in conditions to require that
drilling not proceed until final site characterization test results
have been reviewed by the Planning Commission at a noticed public
hearing. He informed the Commission that the -01 request is for
an approximately one -acre portion of the site in the southwest cor-
ner of the property; this site is 15 feet below the landfill and is
an area where no prior dumping has occurred.
The Commission duscussed the language of the moratorium and consid-
ered whether or not oil drilling would constitute "removal," ex-
pressly prohibited by the moratorium on this property.
The public hearing was opened.
John Lindsey, Vice President of Ascon Properties Inc., addressed
the Commission in support of his proposal. He indicated that they
plan 10 wells for the area, and agreed that nothing could take place
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until after the site characterization has been satisfactorily
completed. However, he stated that EPA test borings on the
site found no contamination in this particular portion. Upon
questioning from the Commission, he said that the EPA drillings
had been from 30 to 70 feet deep and were intended to determine
,if any migration of contaminants had been occurring.
George Mason, 21641 Bahama Lane, asked the Commission to consider
the history of this site and of other hazardous waste sites in
the State of California, saying that it is in the best interest
of the community not to change the zoning until complete test
results are available. He said that access to the site would
constitute disturbance of the soil through the building of
roads into the property and could jeopardize public health as a
result.
Henry Borman asked that some assurance be included in any change
of zone that the applicant will clean up the landfill. He also
noted that nothing in the zone change request precludes the appli-
cant from requesting more wells at some later date.
Beverly Titus, 9062 Bobby Circle, addressed the Commission to
state that as long -as full disclosure of all available informa-
tion is made before any drilling operations proceed on the site
she is not uncomfortable with the oil wells at the proposed
location. She said that any entitlement for actual drilling on
the site should incorporate the findings of the site character-
ization study.
There were no other persons to speak for or against the proposal
and the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Mirjahangir described slides being shown by staff
depicting noise insulation walls around drilling rigs which cut
down noise impacts to surrounding areas.
In.response to questioning from Commissioner Erskine, Mr. Lindsey
said that his firm feels it will take close to five years to
recoup the costs of the proposed drilling operation. After that
it is hoped that the wells will generate a cash flow that can be
allocated toward the clean up of the total site. He indicated
that the testing will take about a.month, with a two to four
month period of time after that to allow the Department of Health
to review the results. This zone change request is an effort to
get this portion of the process under way. Mr. Lindsey also
said he had no objections to the recommended change in conditions
to prohibit any drilling until Planning Commission review of the
site characterization study. Commissioner Porter noted that
this condition should be further amended to read ". and it is
determined that drilling can safely proceed."
Commissioner Livengood, noting that delaying the zone change
until after the characterization was completed would add only
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a month and a half to the time frame, asked the applicant if this
would impact his schedule. Mr. Lindsey replied that it would, be-
cause of the desire to establish a separate identity for the drill-
ing operation.
Tom Benton, petroleum engineer, informed the Commission that it is
planned to drill straight down 500 feet, slant drilling from that
location. The operation is controlled by State law, and protective
casing is required to prevent any contamination of the fresh water
aquifers; this prevents water from entering the bore and any contam-
inants from entering the aquifer.
The Commission discussed the time period for the "Q" designation,
the future clean up of the site, and how drilling might affect both
the rest of the site and the adjacent neighborhood. It was the
consensus that the Commission could find no urgency or compelling
reason to proceed at this time and that a continuance was in order.
Staff reported that the applicant has submitted a letter waiving
the mandatory processing date, but legal counsel indicated that he
would prefer the applicant's concurrence to be given orally at
this meeting. Mr. Lindsey again addressed the Commission. He said
that if the testing is completed prior to the suggested continuance
to September 18 he would like to bring the matter back prior to
that date. With that proviso, he concurred with a'continuance.
Commissioner Mirjahangir said that the primary objective of the
City is to obtain clean up of the landfill and postponing the zone
change will not solve any problems. He presented the following list
of conditions that he would like to see applied to the proposal:
1. He did not consider the "Q" zoning appropriate to the proposal.
He proposed allowing the zone change for a period of six (6)
months or less; if no activity has taken place within that time
the property would revert to its original.zoning.
2. The applicant should file with the City a permit from the Division
of Oil and Gas, and through cooperation with the Planning staff
assure the citizens that the hazardous waste material will not
contaminate the fresh water aquifer during the drilling opera-
tion.
3. The Oil Code will require the applicant to go ahead with the
drilling operation within certain parameters.
4. The property could be fenced with a double insulating wall
30 feet high to assure sound being fully contained.
5. Construction shall proceed in such a fashion that it would
stop any dust problem.
6. Funding from the revenue produced by the oil wells shall be
used for a time period set at the discretion of the City Council
for the clean up and removal of hazardous waste material from
the total site.
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Mr. Mirjahangir proposed the approval of the zone change with
the foregoing conditions, subject to the approval of the appli-
cant.
Commissioner Winchell suggested that at the time of entitlement
a condition could be imposed requiring that at the time of
drilling the applicant should present to the City a program of
clean up for the site, so that any permits could be tied to the
clean up as opposed to giving just entitlement to drill.
Staff was instructed to bring back some method of accomplish-
ing that objective.
ON MOTION BY ERSKINE AND SECOND BY LIVENGOOD NEGATIVE DECLARA-
TION NO. 84-11 AND ZONE CASE NO. 84-3 WERE CONTINUED WITH THE
CONCURRENCE OF THE APPLICANT TO THE MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 18,
1984, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE MATTER CAN BE BROUGHT UP
SOONER IF SITE CHARACTERIZATION IS AVAILABLE WITH A DETERMINA-
TION MADE BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES, BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Winchell, Livengood, Porter, Erskine, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir.
NOES: Higgins
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Staff was directed to present the conditions outlined by Com-
missioner Mirjahangir at the next hearing, as well as that pro-
posed by Commissioner Winchell and the conditions presented in
the staff report at this meeting with the amendment suggested
by Chairman Porter regarding the determination on the safety
of drilling.
USE PERMIT NO. 84-32 (Appeal)
Applicant: Ed Giardina
To permit a temporary outdoor event to be held from October 12
to October 14, 1984, on property located at 16400 Sprindale
Street (Bonaventure Church).
Acting Secretary Glen Godfrey outlined the reasons for the
Board's denial of the use permit request as being parking and
traffic, litter in the adjoining neighborhood, and violations
of the safety codes in the City. Staff is recommending that_ the
Commission uphold the Board of Zoning Adjustments and deny Use
Permit No. 84-32 with findings, but has prepared suggested
findings and conditions of approval if it should be the Commis-
sion's determination to approve the request.
Sergeant Cope of the Huntington Beach Police Department pre-
sented a list of calls generated last year over the three-day
period of the festival. These consisted of calls for noise,
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fights among juveniles, cars blocking driveways and fire hydrants,
one medical assistance call, one auto burglary, and one stolen
car, as well as 30 parking citations issued over that period in the
immediate vicinity. The applicant has since been able to obtain use of
150 extra parking spaces from the church across the street. The
Police Department has ongoing concerns with the numbers of persons
who will be crossing major arterials streets without a signalized in-
tersection. Sgt. Cope -emphasized that the Police Department is
making no recommendation but is simply pointing out facts that need
to be addressed.
The public hearing was opened.
Ed Giardina, applicant and appellant, spoke to the following concerns:
Parking: Last year's parking problems were caused in large part by
very unseasonable rains which.forced the rides over.onto
the asphalt; he estimated that they lost 100 parking spaces because
of that. Mr. Giardina said that his own church has 350 available
parking spaces by actual count and 150 more are available this year
through the use of the parking lot of the Lutheran Church across the
street. Volunteer workers will be encouraged to park at the Lutheran
location to leave the closer spaces for customers. The Lutheran
Church has no services which will be in conflict with the carnival.
Pedestrian Crossings: Volunteers will be used to try to control
street crossings, urging people to use the
intersection for crossing.
Litter: Mr. Giardina said they will hire a street sweeper to clean
up the church grounds and the -streets, and will hire a
clean up crew to go down the streets and clean up the neighbors'
lawns. He felt this should reduce the complaints appreciably.
Barricades: These will be erected if the City desires them to be,
with crossing guards stationed at each barricade.
If the barricades are required to keep customers.out of the neigh-.
boring areas, stickers will be issued by the church to identify
homeowners within those areas.
Hours of Operation: Mr. Giardina outlined the hours it is planned
to have the carnival open, saying that presently
they are planning the hours so there is no conflict with any services.
Commissioner Higgins noted that the critical services were the
Saturday and Sunday evening masses, and asked if those were the ser-
vices to be curtailed; Mr. Giardina replied in the affirmative.
Alcoholic Beverages: Beer and wine will be served in the beer tent,
which will be located as far as possible from
the rides. However, no restrictions will be invoked to prevent
customers from taking beverages out of the tent if they wish to do
SO.
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Mr. Giardina presented petitions containing several hundred
signatures from persons in support of the carnival.
Redmond McAneny,.7641 Whitney Drive, urged the Commission to
consider the positive aspects of the carnival in terms of
fellowship and family entertainment. He also noted that the
Fire Department had had no trouble in gaining access to the
medical emergency which occurred at the event last year.
Steve Jacobs, 16351 Gentry Lane, spoke in support of the pro-
posal, citing its value as a traditional event. He also said
that to his knowledge there had been no accidents of conse-
quence at the event. He submitted 1800 petitions in support.
Kine V. Price, 16271 Duchess Lane, said he has lived in the
area for the entire time it has been held and has never experi-
enced any problems or had any complaints.
Baron A. Coenen, 6172 Montecito Drive, addressed the Commission
in support of the project, saying the noise and traffic prob-
lems are minor compared to the community advantages emanating
from -the festival.
Ray R. Annis, 16341 Angler Lane, said he looks forward to the
carnival every year.
Doug McFarland, 5882 Carbeck Drive, spoke in support. He said
that the benefits to all people must be weighed against the
inconvenience a few may encounter as a result of the carnival,
and that the source and nature of the complaints should be
considered.
Mrs. Robert Armstrong, a resident on Bradbury Lane, spoke in
opposition to the request, saying that the petitions sub-
mitted may not have been from persons in the area who are
affected by the heavy traffic. She also indicated that the
calls -to the Police Department last year should not be the only
ones considered - in 1978 and 1979 there were many more, some
of which she alleged went unanswered. Mrs. Armstrong also
pointed out that clean up had always been a condition imposed
on the carnival and it had never been done. Another point she
wished to make was that, although the event is described as
a three-day event, construction and preparation begins at least
by the middle of September and by the time all clean up on the
site has been accomplished it is more like a two -month event
for the surrounding neighborhood. Citing unclean conditions
on the site,,failure to comply with conditions, and extensive
damage suffered in the past by some residents on Brassie Circle,
she said the appeal should be denied.
Virginia Mason, neighboring resident, also spoke against the'
granting of the request. She said that she had suffered $800 in
damages from the carnival goers in 1978 and cited damages also
suffered in that year to City property. Ms. Mason said that
neighbors have tried to co -exist with the carnival, asking for
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some sort of control from the church which has not been forthcoming.
For example, she said that 1983 was the first year the rides had
actually been shut down at 9:30 since that condition was imposed
on the permit. Another point made by Ms. Mason was that the City
had recently approved a new building for this church site - she
asked if the church was waiting until after the 14th of October to
begin construction or if construction would be going on during
the carnival. In the latter event, where would the rides be placed
if construction was taking up the original space for them, and
what effect would that have on parking, etc.?
Mrs. Josephine Calkin, 16342 Angler Lane, said that she was speak-
ing*on behalf of several neighbors. She expressed the opinion
that the carnival has grown too big, with rides and attractions
that do not belong in a residential area.
George Voucl, 6052 Montecito Drive, said the carnival is like the
Fourth of July - it always brings problems but these have to be
balanced against the values.
Chris Munoz (no address given) spoke in support of the carnival.
There were no other persons present to speak for or against the
proposal, and the public hearing was closed.
In response to questioning from the Commission, Mr. Giardina said
that the new building will be'under construction during the festi-
val.. The church is building a new parking lot to replace the spaces
that will be lost and the construction will not affect the park-
ing available; in fact, Mr. Giardina indicated that the new lot will
accommodate 30 to 40 more cars than the present one. The rides
will be limited to the grassy area only.
Commissioner Porter questioned why barricades were not use last
year, and Sergeant Cope replied that at no time were there more
than four officers on duty at the site at any one time. These
officers were not sufficient in number to man all the barricade
sites, and had used their judgment to remain on the site to provide
protection there. If onsite protection as well as men to man the
?barricades are to be provided, more personnel will be required.
Extensive discussion took place as to the number and type of police
protection to be provided. Commissioner Winchell recalled that
last year the provision was that the Police Department was to tell
the festival operators how many officers were needed and where to
put them. Sergeant Cope cautioned that there is no assurance
that enough uniformed personnel will volunteer to work at the car-
nival to be sure of having sufficient police protection, and it
was determined that in that case private security people could be
hired.
Commissioner Higgins indicated that he would be in favor of the
carnival but it should be conditioned, such as restricting the use
of the church on Saturday and Sunday evenings, requiring'that*there
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be parking available at the Lutheran Church, providing tempor-
ary fencing on Bradbury Lane, and possibly assigning someone
to check to see that these things are indeed done.
After further discussion the consensus emerged that the Com-
mission favored approval, and the suggested conditions of
approval were reviewed in detail and accepted, amended, or
added to after individual discussion.
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY HIGGINS THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OVERRULED THE DENIAL OF THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUST-
MENTS AND APPROVED USE PERMIT NO. 84-32 WITH THE FOLLOWING
FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL:
By imposing conditions to mitigate past concerns, the City of
Huntington Beach hereby finds:
1. The establishment, maintenance, and operation of the use
will not be detrimental to:
a. The general welfare of persons residing or working in
the vicinity;
b. Property and improvements in the vicinity of such use
or building.
2. The granting of the use permit will not adversely affect
the General Plan of the City of Huntington Beach.
3. The proposal is consistent with the.City's General Plan
of Land Use.
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL:
The plot plan received April 25, 1984 shall be the approved
layout subject to the following conditions:
1. The applicant shall obtain all necessary electrical permits.
2. An onsite inspection by the Fire Department shall be re-
quired prior to the event.
3. A certificate of insurance form shall be filed in the
Finance Department at least five (5) days prior to the
event.
4. All trash, debris, and garbage, as well as special dumpsters
shall be removed from the site within two (2) days of the
closing of the festival.
5. Use of amplifiers, speakers, musical instruments, and play-
ing of recorded music are to be discontinued as of 9:00 p.m.
each evening.
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6. Any refrigeration truck to be placed onsite shall be located
as near the intersection of Springdale and Heil as possible
to minimize noise from the unit.
7. Barricades shall be placed at the intersections of Springdale
and Brassie, Springdale and Orlando, Heil and Bradbury, Orlando
and Bradbury, and Orlando and Angler. The applicant shall pro-
vide at their expense uniformed police officers to man the
barricades at all times during the hours of operation at all
locations except Orlando and Angler, one (1) hour prior to
the opening of the festival to the close of each day (to be
approved by the Traffic Engineer and Traffic Division of the
Police Department ).
8. In number as determined by the Police Chief, uniformed officers
shall be provided onsite during the operation hours of the
event. The number of officers shall not exceed 10 officers at
any one time. Where there may not be a sufficient number of
Huntington Beach Police officers, the applicant shall hire
private security guards.
9.' All equipment and manpower required by Conditions Nos. 7 and
8 shall be provided at the applicant's expense.
10. Appropriate signs (temporary) for the direction of traffic and
onsite parking shall be provided by the applicant. Said signs,
location, and content to be as recommended by the Traffic
Division of the Police Department.
11. The vehicular access off Orlando and Bradbury shall be secured
and not used for ingress -egress to the site except for emergency
purposes.
12. All operations of the festival, including machinery other than
necessary refrigeration units, shall desist between the hours
of 9:30 p.m. and 8:00 a.m.
13. All activity on the site or clean-up activity offsite shall, be
shut down by 11:00 p.m.
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14. The applicant shall provide professional clean-up crews to clear
the adjacent streets of trash and debris each evening after
closing of the activity.
15. No structures, booths, etc. shall be erected on the.site sooner
than two (2) weeks prior to the event, and all evidence of the
activity (booths, rides, and other material) shall be completely
removed from the site within two (2) weeks of closing of the
festival. All rental equipment shall be removed from the site
within one (1) week of closing of the festival.
16. All vehicular ingress and egress to the site shall be via the
church driveway located mid -block on Springdale.
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17. Prior to operation of any equipment used in conjunction
with the amusement rides, the City shall be in receipt of
State certification and permits, showing inspection within
one (1) year period, stating that the rides meet all re-
quirements of the State Industrial Safety Division.
18. A certificate to operate shall be issued by the Director
of Development Services prior to the event..
19. Alcoholic beverage sales are subject to review and approval
of the Alcoholic Beverage Control Board and issuance of
a license.
20. The church site itself shall provide 350 parking spaces
onsite,*plus submittal of a written agreement from the
Redeemer Lutheran Church across the street for the provi-
sion of another 150 spaces.
21. Some additional temporary fencing shall be erected along
Bradbury Lane to close off any access from that street
into the festival grounds.
22.. The 5:30 p.m. evening masses on Saturday and Sunday shall
not be held, to avoid conflict of parking with the festival.
23. The Commission -recommends that an announcement be made in
the church to ask the parishioners not to park on the
neighborhood streets, and that workers at the event itself
be encouraged to park in the Lutheran Church parking lot.
24. The hours of operation of the festival shall be limited to
the following: Noon to 9:30 p.m. on Friday; 10:00.a.m.
to 9:30 p.m. on Saturday; and-1:00 p.m. to 9:30 p.m. on
Sunday.
25. -In the event there are any violations of the foregoing con-
ditions or any violations of life safety codes, the
festival activity will be terminated and not permitted to
reopen.
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Porter, Erskine,
Schumacher,:Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
The applicant was advised of the appeal period and procedure.
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CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 84-20/USE PERMIT NO. 84-23 (Appeal)
Applicant: Charles H. Bollman (Continued from June 5, 1984)
A request to permit an existing garage with Street access to satisfy
parking requirements for an addition to a single-family dwelling with
nonconforming yard at 308 Tenth Street.
Michael Adams reported that a revised site plan has been received
showing the temporary parking spaces to the rear of the storage
tanks.
The public hearing was opened.
Charles Bollman was present to respond to any questions the Commission
might have. There were no other persons to speak for or against the
proposal, and the public hearing was closed.
The revisions were reviewed.
ON MOTION BY MIRJAHANGIR AND SECOND BY HIGGINS CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION
NO. 84-20 WAS APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS, BY
THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
FINDINGS:
1. The rear one -half -of the subject property is encumbered by an oil
operation and related structures. Therefore, because of special
circumstances applicable to the subject property including size,
shape, location, and surroundings, the strict application of the
zoning ordinance is found to deprive the subject property of
privileges enjoyed by other properties in the vicinity and under
identical zone classifications.
2. The granting of a conditional exception is necessary in order to
preserve the enjoyment of one or more substantial property rights.
3. The granting of a conditional exception will not be materially
detrimental to the public welfare or injurious to property in the
same zone classifications.
4. The granting'of the conditional exception will not adversely
affect the General Plan of the City of Huntington Beach."
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL:
1. The conceptual site plan received and dated June 18, 1984, depict-
ing a temporary parking space at the rear of the property,shall
be the approved layout.
2. At the time the oil operation ceases to exist, permanent parking
must be provided in compliance with Article 935.
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3. A review of Conditional Exception No. 84-20 shall occur five
(5) years from date of approval to ascertain code compliance
if the oil operation has been abandoned.
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Porter, Schumacher
ABSTAIN: None
ON MOTION BY MIRJAHANGIR AND SECOND BY HIGGINS USE PERMIT NO.
84-23 WAS APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS,
BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
FINDINGS
1. By providing fire protection measures to the proposed
project/property, the establishment, maintenance, and opera-
tion of the use will not be detrimental to:
a. The general welfare of persons residing or working in
the -vicinity;
b. Property and improvements in the vicinity of such use
or building.
2. The granting of A uge permit will not adversely affect the
General Plan of the City of Huntington Beach.
3. The proposal is consistent with the City's General Plan of
land use.
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL:
1. The conceptual site plan received and dated June 18, 1984
shall be the approved layout.-
2. The garage door,facing Tenth Street shall be equipped with
an automatic garage door opener.
3.• Elevations shall be submitted to the Director of Development
Services for review and approval prior to issuance of
building permits.
4. A non-combustible roof shall be provided.
.5. A two-hour fire resistive wall without openings shall be
provided on the exposed side of the residence.
6. A residential automatic fire protection sprinkler system
shall be installed in the dwelling or an approved fire pro-
tection foam or inerting system shall be installed on the
tank at the applicant's expense.
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AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Porter, Schumacher
ABSTAIN: None
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO-. 84-15
Applicant: Robert and Donna Reid
To permit a second unit to an existing single-family dwelling loc-
cated at-19102 Mathew Circle.
Michael Adams presented slides of the proposed 448 square foot
addition. He indicated that the proposal provides a continuation
of the existing roof line, has a separate entrance, and is archi-
tecturally compatible with the dwelling.
Commissioner Schumacher inquired if the flood protection program
has been addressed in regard to this proposal, and questioned the
possibility of future problems to the City if permits are granted
which are not in compliance with the flood plain regulations.
Staff, legal counsel, and the Commission discussed the implications
of the matter, and Mike Adams reported that the federal government
will check at some time in the future to ascertain if the City is
monitoring the program properly. If not, the City might be penal-
ized by being pulled out of the program. Staff will review the
present proposal in relation to flood plain' elevations; in the
meantime it was suggested that the project could be conditioned to
comply. Legal counsel Art Folger noted that if the applicant
should accept such a condition he would -in effect be waiving.his
appeal rights, and discussion followed on a method of obtaining com-
pliance and still protecting the applicant's appeal rights.
The public hearing was opened.
Robert Reid addressed the Commission and agreed to a condition re-
quiring compliance with the flood plain regulations.
The public hearing was closed.
ON MOTION BY ERSKINE AND SECOND BY HIGGINS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
NO. 84-15 WAS APPROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS,
BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
FINDINGS:
1. The establishment, maintenance, and operation of the use will not
be detrimental to:
a. The general welfare of persons residing or working in the
vicinity;
b. Property and improvements in the vicinity of such use or
building.
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2. The granting of the conditional use permit will not adversely
affect the General Plan of the City of Huntington Beach.
3. The proposal is consistent with the City's General Plan of
land use.
4. THe granting of a conditional use permit is consistent with
the development standards contained in Section 9101.3 of
the Huntington Beach Ordinance Code.
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL:
1. The site plan, floor plans, and elevations received and dated
May 1, 1984, shall be the approved layout.
2. The applicant shall provide safety, energy, and conservation
measures as required by Section 9101.3.
3. The addition shall comply with all applicable provisions of
the ordinance code and Building Division, as well as with all
requirements of the Flood Plain Program.
4. The 10-day appeal.period provided by code for this application
shall not begin until such time as Development Sbrvices staff
determines that the submitted plans cannot meet the Flood
Plain requirements.
AYES:
Higgins, Winchell,
Mirjahangir
NOES:
None
ABSENT:
Porter
ABSTAIN:
None.
Livengood, Erskine,.Schumacher,
ZONE CHANGE NO. 84-5
Applicant: Union Oil of California
To permit a change of zone from C2 (Community Business District)
to C2-SS (Community Business District with Service Station
Suffix added) for property located at the northeast corner of
Springdale Street and Bolsa Avenue.
Staff explained that the zone change is to fulfill a condition of
approval imposed by the Board of Zoning Adjustments on Adminis-
trative Review No. 83-85 for construction of the service station.
The public hearing was opened and closed.
ON MOTION BY HIGGINS AND SECOND BY ERSKINE ZONE CHANGE NO. .84-5
WAS APPROVED WITH. THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDED TO THE
CITY COUNCIL ADOPTION, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
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FINDINGS:
1. A change of zone from C2, Community Business District, to C2-SS,
Community Business District combined with Service Station
Suffix, is consistent with the General Plan designation of gen-
eral commercial.
2. The proposed zone change is compatible with surrounding land
uses.
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Schumacher
NOES: None
ABSENT: Porter, Mirjahangir
ABSTAIN: None
SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO. 84-2
Applicant: DeGuelle & Sons Glass Company
To permit the installation of a 20 foot high, 96 square foot area
illuminated pole sign at the southwest corner of Adams Avenue and
Alabama Street.
Michael Adams reported that the proposed sign is intended for the
use of all the tenants in the existing shopping complex and the
request is for relief from the interior property line setback. The
distance from the single-family homes on Lake Street is 60 feet.
Staff is recommending approval with modifications to reduce the
height of the sign from 20 to 15 feet with 7 feet ground clearance,
reduce the height of the sign lettering to 16 inches, and require
landscaping in the rear of the property where the sign will be loc-
ated. In answer to Commissioner Higgins' inquiry, he said that
the existing wall -painted signs will have to be brought into code
conformance.
The public hearing was opened.
Jim De Guelle, owner of the property, spoke in support of his pro-
posal, saying that. he would like to retain the 20 foot height for
the sign and that loss of area to the landscaping would mean the
loss of two parking spaces in the rear lot where parking is already
a major problem. The landscaping would also, according to Mr.
DeGuelle, pose a hazard to persons entering and leaving the lot.
He also indicated that the sign lighting would be on a timer, set
to go out at 10:00 or 10:30 p.m.
Fred Western, 1218 Lake Street, addressed the Commission to oppose
approval of the requested sign, citing adverse impacts to the Lake
Street properties from the sign which would be visible from their
back yards and reduced property values resulting from approval of
the sign.
The public hearing was closed.
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Commissioner Erskine suggested the possibility of a compromise
location for the sign, perhaps attaching it to the back of the
store. Staff pointed out that if the applicant had not placed
his sign within the setback he could erect the sign without the
need for a special permit. The Commission discussed the pur-
pose for the sign, the possibility of light spillage into
neighboring yards., the benefits of landscaping versus loss of
parking, and the size and height of the sign as requested.
ON MOTION BY ERSKINE AND SECOND BY HIGGINS SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT
NO. 84-2.WAS DENIED WITH THE FOLLOWING FINDING, BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
FINDING:
The proposed sign in the location and size requested will be
detrimental to the residential property located in the vicinity.
AYES:
Higgins, Winchell,
Mirjahangir
NOES:
None
ABSENT:
Porter
ABSTAIN:
None
Livengood, Erskine, Schumacher,
The applicant was advised of the appeal period and procedure.
DISCUSSION ITEM:
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 84-9
Applicant: World Oil
Staff reported that a letter has been received from the Archi-
tectural Design Group requesting a reconsideration of this
previously denied application for a convenience market at an
existing service station. New site plans have been submitted
in an attempt to incorporate the Planning Commission's concerns
into the design.
A representative of the applicant addressed the Commission to
explain changes to the plan in height of walls, additional
landscaping to buffer the use from the adjacent residential, and
the reduction of the drive -through from four ways around the
building to just one way.
The Commission discussed the revisions, but it was the consensus
that the main issue'of incompatibility with the residential
remained, and no action was taken to reconsider.
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PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS (Continued)
CODE AMENDMENT NO. 84-12
Applicant: City of Huntington Beach
A request to permit fortunetelling within the C4 (Highway Commer-
cial) District subject to the approval of an administrative
review application.
The public hearing was opened and closed when no one was present
to speak to the matter.
Legal counsel explained that the City Council has passed an urgency
ordinance and a moratorium to give staff time to provide criteria
for allowing fortunetelling in the City. This code amendment is
being processed in order to provide a means of control over such
uses as they can no longer be absolutely prohibited in the community.
The Commission discussed various locations in the City where these
uses might go and the possible effects of establishing such a use.
A special suffix was considered, as well as classifying them in the
adult entertainment category. It -was the consensus that further
study was needed; however, Mr. Folger explained that the court has
already been informed that the City was taking action and any delay
could result in the awarding of attorney fees against the City.
The timing was reviewed and it was determined that postponement to
the hearing of July 10 would not delay the process.
ON MOTION BY HIGGINS AND SECOND BY ERSKINE CODE AMENDMENT NO.
84-12 WAS CONTINUED TO THE MEETING OF JULY 10, 1984-TO ALLOW TIME
FOR FURTHER STUDY, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Porter, Schumacher
ABSTAIN: None
DISCUSSION ITEM:
HUNTINGTON HARBOUR BAY CLUB SITE:
Planning staff reported that a condition required by the Coastal
Commission had inadvertently been left out of the previously
approved amendments for the Huntington Harbour Bay Club site.
Staff is asking for review and report by the Commission.
ON MOTION BY HIGGINS AND SECOND BY WINCHELL THE COMMISSION APPROVED
THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL CONDITION FOR THE BAY CLUB SITE AND DIR-
ECTED STAFF TO RECOMMEND ITS INCLUSION TO THE CITY COUNCIL, BY
THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
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ADDITIONAL CONDITION:
Prior to the transmittal of a permit, the applicant shall submit
to the Director of Development Services a determination from the
State Lands Commission that:
a. No state lands and/or lands subject to the public trust are
involved in the development and all necessary authorizations
required by the State Lands Commission have been obtained:
or
b. State lands and/or lands subject to the public trust are in-
volved in the development and all necessary authorizations
required by the State Lands Commission have been obtained;
of
c. State lands or lands subject to the public trust may be in-
volved in the development, but pending a final determination
agreement has been made with the State Lands Commission for
the project to proceed without prejudice to that determina-
tion.
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Porter, Schumacher
ABSTAIN: None
Due to the lateness of the hour, all other discussion, pending
items, etc. on the Commission's agenda were continued to the
meeting of July 10, 1984.
The Commission adjourned at 1:00 a.m. to July 10, 1984 at
7:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers.
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Marcus M. Porter, a rman
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