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MINUTES
HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
Council Chambers - Civic Center
2000 Main Street
Huntington Beach, California
Tuesday, October 16, 1984 - 7:00 P.M.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Higgins, Winchell, Livenggod, Porter,
Erskine, Schumacher, Mirjahangir
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: None
CONSENT CALENDAR:
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY HIGGINS, THE CONSENT CALENDAR
CONSISTING OF THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF
SEPTEMBER 5, 1984 WERE APPROVED AS FOLLOWS:
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Porter, Schumacher, Schumacher
NOES: None
ABSENT: Erskine
ABSTAIN: None
B. ORAL COMMUNICATION:
Commissioner Livengood reported that on a recent visit to Old World
the facility was somewhat in the dark. He reported seeing a young
man urinating behind a tree, several people extremely intoxicated
and no security force. He stated concern due to the fact that this
is a residential area. Chairman Porter directed staff to include in
the next report the security measures that were being taken.
Commissioner Schumacher stated that when she voted for approval on
Garfields Nite Spot she and other Planning Commissioner's were
misled by Garfields. She said that the original staff report stated
that the club expected 35 to 45 people and now Garfields indicated
that they meant 35 to 45 age group. She went on to request that the
City Council be informed that the Planning Commission and staff was
under this misconception when the Use Permit was approved.
Commissioner Winchell requested that a report be sent to the Council
that includes the original staff report with 35 - 45 people
underlined, the applicant's letter indicating 35 - 45 people, and a
copy of the building permit which was issued after the Planning
Commission approval with the date underlined. Glen Godfrey reported
that it is on the Council agenda in 60 days and that staff is
working with Garfields to try to minimize the adverse impacts. He
went on to state that Development Services will be reporting back to
the Council with an interim report in 30 days. Chairman Porter
requested that in the report to Council, staff could include the
Planning Commissioner's feelings. Commissioner Winchell stated that
possibly there is a need for amending the zoning ordinance to
tighten up
regulations. Glen Godfrey responded that current regulations
require Conditional Use Permit approval for night clubs and dancing
establishments. Commissioner Schumacher stated that City Councilman
Pattinson pointed out at their October 15, 1984 meeting that
Garfields had not gone against their conditions of approval. She
went on to state that she wanted the Council to understand why the
Commission approved this request. All Commissioner's were in
agreement.
ITEM D-2 - TALBERT GAP REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT:
The public hearing was opened:
Chauncy Alexander of the Flood Prevention Group made a presentation
against the project. His main points were as follows:
The Redevelopment Plan is presented for action under the
deadline pressure of January 1, 1984.
No citizen participation was obtained in the creation of the
plan.
No specific financial or tax data has been supplied to date.
No consideration or action relative to the FPG alternative plans
and proposals has been taken.
The freezing of the taxes at the 1984 rate means that inevitably
all Huntington Beach residents will have either diminished
services or increased fees and assessments .
Planning with other governmental jurisdictions has been
inadequate in terms of timing and supplying of information.
The Plan is not fair as it does not include all property owners
subject to or contributing to flooding by the Talbert Valley
Channels.
The Plan is not fair because the financing will be borne by the
few citizens immediately adjacent to the Talbert Valley Channels.
The dollar costs far exceed the verbal and published reports and
there is no reference to interest costs.
Mr. Alexander recommended that the Planning Commission reject the
current Talbert Gap Redevelopment Plan and reorganize and refile
under the provisions of the "blighted public services". Adopt the
FPG strategy to obtain immediate financing of flood control measures
through City, County and State allocations that could be negotiated
as credits against required expenditures in the Santa Ana Mainstem
Project. Reallocate existing City revenues by the same amount as
proposed in the Plan. If the total funds are not immediately
available, the City Council could create a city-wide assessment;
and/or reallocated Federal revenue -sharing moneys for this project;
and/or issue a General Obligation Bond to provide financing.
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Chairman Porter asked why north Huntington Beach residents should be
assessed for flood control in the southeast end of town.
Mr. Alexander responded that the flood disaster affects every
citizen and the majority of Huntington Beach needs proper flood
control measures.
Chairman Porter asked why the Flood Prevention Group feels General
Obligation Bonds are more acceptable than Revenue Bonds. Mr.
Alexander responded that it would not allow for the specific project
area. The City should use its money leverage to get money from the
County. From $38 to $S5 million to complete the redevelopment work
on the channel would require joint efforts of government. The
County now has $22 million reserved for flood control measures. We
need to convince the County to spend the money now. There is a
matching requirement that the government is negotiating on at this
time. Chairman Porter asked if the Federal matching requirement is
for the main channels and the feeder channels. Mr. Alexander
responded that the Huntington Beach channels are in the Santa Ana
mainstream project. The County is setting aside money now which is
designed to match City funds. The point is that we are endangered
more everyday. All the water from the rest of the County is coming
this way. We believe that if we had aggressive leadership, we could
do more. Four million dollars in the county has been allocated for
the holding basin at Bartlett Park and Edison right-of-way.
Therefore, if the City put money its where its mouth is, it could
begin tomorrow to repair these channels. The advantage is the
credit the City would get for the Santa Ana mainstream.
Commissioner Schumacher stated disagreement with Chairman Porter
stating that she felt all citizens of Huntington Beach should share
in the cost of the flood control repairs.
Corinne Welch, secretary for the Flood Prevention Group, spoke
against t e project. She stated that by trying to get the project
passed in such a short time there has not been ample time for the
people to review the terminology. She said that she was frightened
after reading this plan as the plan is full of loop holes and
contradictions and can be changed by amendment process.
Sherry Passmore, from the Committee of Citizens on Property Rights,
spoke against the project. She stated that there are many
detrimental effects of the State Redevelopment Law. Three of the
worst areas of abuse are financial, the loss of a constitutional
form of government and the infringements on private property
rights. In order for a Community Redevelopment Agency to
financially function, it must keep its taxpayers in debt.
Redevelopment uses Tax Increment financing which results in reduced
tax bases for cities, counties, schools, police and fire
departments, etc.
Sally Alexander spoke against the plan. She stated that the main
issue as far as water has not been addressed by the City. The flood
control channels would not be sufficient for another March 1983
flood. The Bartlett Park retarding basin would be another two years
before completion.
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Dorothy Sh rock spoke against the plan. She stated concern that at
the first presentation to the citizens of Huntington Beach Ms. Webb
mentioned several times that there would be no eminent domain. The
next time we heard from Ms. Webb, we were told that these pages
would be removed; however, two pages are still left in. She stated
that all pages regarding eminent domain should be taken out of the
plan.
HenryBohrman spoke against the plan. He stated that he had
critiqued the plan and that the plan as written will cause problems
later on. He indicated pages where there were inconsistencies which
need to be corrected before sending it on to the City Council.
Clauncy Yoder spoke in favor of the plan. He indicated that any
article can be analyzed to make specific points. The City does not
have the budget as Mr. Alexander requested to match the County's
five million dollar funds. The County and the City of Huntington
Beach have been working very closely in the last two years, and has
received over eleven million dollars from the County that went into
the Slater channel. He stated agreement with the Alexander's that
the channels are over taxed, however, we need redevelopment. He
recommended that we have a time limit on this to get this project
going and that we work together as a team.
Florence Webb made the staff presentation. Her main points were as
follows: This plan has been drastically modified as a result of
public meetings with the property owners. Legal Council has advised
staff of specific language to be used in the plan even though later
in the plan state that we will not do these specific things (such as
eminent domain). This is a legal document and is not easy to read
but is required by law. We have removed all areas of citizen
concern that were possible to remove.
On October 4, 1984 the Planning Staff held a public hearing to
obtain citizen's concerns to the plan. Nine thousand notices were
mailed to property owners, tenants and businesses and 100 people
were in attendance at the meeting. At that meeting, staff asked if
the people wanted additional meetings and no one expressed an
interest.
Florence Webb indicated that many modifications to the plan have been
made. She stated that as of January 1, flooding will not be a
condition of blight. Notices have been sent to all taxing agencies
putting them on notice that the City is proposing the two project
areas and asking them to contact us if they have concerns. She
further stated that the Redevelopment Plans will not affect the school
districts and that they are in support of the Plan. Chairman Porter
stated that the reason the schools are not concerned is because the
revenue will be made up from the State. He went on to say that the
schools are paid for each student based on daily attendance.
Florence Webb stated that the channels are the responsibility of the
County and the storm drains and pumping stations are the
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responsibility of the City. The proposed improvement cost is as
follows:
Storm Drains 3,640,000
Pumping Stations 4,250,000
Drainage Channel 37,180,000
City Contribution 99300,000
Contingencies Escalation 2,580,000
Project Cost 19,770,000
Administration 400,000
Low & Moderate Housing 5,042,000
Total Cost 25,210,000
Florence Webb indicated that Katz Hollis, financial consultant for
this project has performed a report for tax increment and that the
City's Finance Department has determined that the figures are very
conservative. The FY estimated net tax increment is $578,000; FY
90-91 is $2,270,000; FY 95-96 is $3,440,000. She went on to state
that the impact to the general fund, in the worst case situation, is
$14,000,000 over a 20 year period. She indicated that the City does
not propose to do all of the things listed in the plan. She stated
that there would be a budget and that the budget would be dictated by
the increment received.
Commissioner Livengood stated that the project is costing $25,000,000
and that the city would be generating $63,000,000. He questioned what
the total package cost would be. Florence Webb responded that the
cost would be $80,000,000 after servicing the bonds.
Commissioner Livengood stated that it appears that the budget is
$17,000,000 short of target. He further stated that there would be a
loss to the general fund of $14,000,000. He went on to say that the
project only addresses one of the problem areas in the City. He
questioned if the $25,000,000 would provide flood protection to cover
a one hundred year flood. Florence Webb responded that it covers a
one hundred year storm.
Bill Patapoff from the City Public Works Department stated that we
have funds allocated to repair Murdy Channel; however, there are no
other funds available at this time.
Commissioner Winchell indicated that the $14,000,000 loss to the
general fund does not include interest. She stated that the Plan cost
of $25,000,000 would result in $80,000,000; therefore, the $14,000,000
loss should include interest.
Commissioner Higgins stated concern because the project cost is 20%
more than it should be due to the 20% for low and moderate housing.
Florence Webb stated that bonds don't have to be used. Improvements
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could be made as money becomes available and this would eliminate the
interest charges; however it would take many years to make the
improvements.
Commissioner Livengood requested that the loss to the general fund of
$14,000;000 be included in the report to the City Council. He went on
to say that if any other redevelopment project that has already been
approved is a loss, the City would be in very serious trouble.
Commissioner Mirjahangir questioned the position the County is
taking. Florence Webb responded that the County has obligated
$37,000,000 for construction cost.
Glen Godfrey stated that the City Redevelopment Agency would not try
to fund a budget that they could not fund. He went on to say that the
City could phase in the projects by prioritizing needed improvements.
He went on to say that the monies that would flow to the general fund
are made in the capital improvement budget and that the City is
stating that allocation of monies from the general fund for flood
control.
Commissioner Livengood stated that the Planning Commission should
recommend to the City Council to carefully review the proposed
Redevelopment Plan and that the Planning Commission does not support
the Plan. Chairman Porter questioned what would be the consequence of
not approving the Plan. Legal Council, Art Folger, indicated that if
the Planning Commission does not approve the Plan, it would require a
2/3 vote by the City Council.
Chairman Porter stated that one of the real problems with the Plan is
that there are many contradictions in the Plan. He went on to say
that one paragraph leads off stating one thing and later states
something else. Florence Webb responded that in these cases the Plan
is fulfilling the required statements for Redevelopment Law. Legal
Council, Art Folger, commented that Redevelopment Law requires
specific language be in the Plan. He said that regarding the issue of
Eminent Domain; the City has the power with or without redevelopment.
Chairman Porter suggested that the Plan be clarified to indicate all
sections where statements are included to satisify Redevelopment Law.
Commissioner Schumacher stated that she could not support the Talbert
Gap Redevelopment Plan for the following reasons: 1. The Plan can be
amended by future governing bodies. 2. Representatives from Public
Works indicated that this is not the only flood control channel in
need of repair. She stated concern that the County might not share in
the expense of repairs to other channel repair projects. 3. Work with
the citizens to demand that the County, State and Federal levels
support the flood control projects.
Commissioner Livengood stated one of his concerns is that the project
is costing $55,000,000 in interest for bond cost for a net result of
$20,000,000 in improvements to flood control channels. He went on to
state that the formula does not work. Commissioner Erskine stated
agreement with Commissioners Schumacher and Livengood. He went on to
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say that Redevelopment is just one tool that can be used to fund this
type of project.
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY MIRJAHANGIR THE PLANNING
COMMISSION APPROVED RESOLUTION NO. 1334 AS REVISED TO NOT ADOPT THE
TALBERT GAP REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AND TO INCLUDE A LIST OF FINDINGS AS TO
THE REASONS FOR THE ACTION, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
Legal Council, Art Folger, stated that the Planning Commission should
not approve the Plan instead of changing the resolution.
Commissioner Livengood stated that included in the findings should be
accurate figures of the project cost and the loss to the general fund
of $14,000,000; the Plan will strain the relationship between other
governing bodies; and Redevelopment was not designed for a Public
Works project and should not be used to generate revenue. He further
stated that we are not addressing the flood control problems City-wide
and that this project could affect the potential possibility of doing
necessary flood control projects in other parts of the City.
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Porter, Erskine, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
ITEM C - 3 LAND USE AMENDMENT No. 84-2/ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT
NO. 84-3
The amendment addresses two administrative items as requested by the
City and three proposed changes to the General Plan Land Use Diagram
as requested by the City and private property owners.
Hal Simmons presented staff presentation on the following items:
Item 2.1 is a request that a Solid Waste Facility land use designation
eb created in order to satisfy recent State legislation regarding the
siting of solid waste facilities and make a finding of consistency
with the general plan. Item 2.2 is a request that policy language be
added to the Land Use Element to meet the requirement of State law
which provides that local general plans be consistent with the County
Airport Environs Land Use Plan.
The public hearing was opened on items 2.1 and 2.2. No one was
present to speak for or against the items, and the public hearing was
closed. Chairman Porter called for a straw vote on these items and
motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Porter, Erskine, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
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Item 3.1 is a request to redesignate 4.65 acres located west of
NicT iTo�s Street and south of Warner from General Industrial to Solid
Waste Facility. Item 3.2 is a request to redesignate 10.4 acres
located west of agno is Street from General Commercial to Mixed
Development. Item 3.3 is a request to redesignate 3.0 acres located
east of Bolsa ii'ca treet and south of Pearce Street from Medium
Density Residential to General Commercial.
Commissioner Livengood stated that on item 3.1 the Department of
Health Services has expressed concern over the noise to residents in
this area. Hal Simmons responded that this is an approved facility
right now.
The public hearing was opened on item 3.1. No one was present to
speak for or against the item, and the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Schumacher stated that the proposed change in land use
designation was to facility and use which is already there. She went
on to say that although we are now going to address the noise issue it
is too late to mitigate it. Hal Simmons responded that we could
require a noise study. Chairman Porter called for a straw vote on 3.3
thru 3.3 adding a section on noise analysis effect on residential in
the area and the motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Porter, Erskine, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Item 3.2/Zone Case 84-10 is a request to redesignate 10.4 acres
located west of Magnolia Street from General Commercial to Mixed
Development.
The public hearing was opened. Mr. Guggenheim, the developer was
present. He stated that the request for General Plan Amendment zone
change from R5 to R 3 M1A in order to develop 152 apartment units and
120 self storage spaces. He said that the current zoning is (Q) R5,
Qualified, Office Professional. The owners of this property have
attempted to market the property but have had difficulty due to the
poor visibility of the site and the surplus of office space in
Huntington Beach and Fountain Valley. He went on to say that the
project has attempted to design in a buffer, security, and a minimum
of traffic for the adjacent residents. Mr. Hoelscher representing the
applicant stated that the architecture is a timeless design and
landscape plan is superior to most apartment complexes. He went on to
say that they have contracted with Linkletter Incorporated to design
and manage the self storage units.
Kevin Mulhulland addressed the Commission and stated his entire
property borders the subject parcels. He further stated concern over
the increase in traffic and potential increase in crime. He stated
that his decision to purchase in that area, was due to the seclusion,
and now this project would put a 10 ft. high wall with sirens, alarms
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and lights on the property line. Michael Johnson who lives in this
neighborhood stated that the majority of home owners support this
project; however, there is concern regarding the required fire gate.
Mr. Shimohara; one of the owners of S & K Greenhouse, stated that they
have tried to sell the property as a commercial site since 1981. He
said that they have worked with planning staff and residents with
various alternatives and have concluded that this is the best project
for the site.
There were no other persons present to speak for or against the
proposal, and the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Livengood stated that if this was approved it would be
for the Zone Change and the project would come back to the Planning
Commission for approval. Commissioner Higgins stated that he would
favor the project as he agreed with the applicant that this area
should not compete with the primary commercial/office area on Beach
Blvd. Chairman Porter questions whether it is permissible to change
to "Q" at the meeting without readvertising. Legal Council, Art
Folger, responded because it is more restrictive that it would be
fine. Mike Adams indicated that staff would require time, in order to
come up with "Q" conditions for the Commission's review. Chairman
Porter called for a straw vote to redesignate from General Commercial
to Mixed Development, and the motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Porter, Erskine, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Item 3.3/Zone Change No. 84-9 is a request to redesignate 3.0 acres
located east of Bolsa C ica Street and south of Pearce Street from
Medium Density Residential to General Commercial.
The public hearing was opened. Mr. Appleget, a resident in the area
was present to address the Commission. He stated concern about the
consistency of the project with the surrounding zoning and the
possibility of reducing the value of the surrounding property. He
went on to say that he opposed the change to General Commercial.
Ken Moody, the applicant was present. He stated that the proposal has
addressed the neighbors concerns. Bob Curtis, one of the owners of
the property, addressed the Commission. He stated that retail would
be much more appropriate and would minimize impacts to the residents.
There were no other persons to speak for or against the item, and the
public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Livengood stated concern that the tract is between two
commercial areas. Brief Commission discussion ensued. Chairman
Porter called for a straw vote to approve Item 3.3 and the motion
carried by the following vote:
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AYES: Winchell, Livengood, Porter, Erskine, Schumacher, Mirjahangir
NOES: Higgins
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Commissioner Livengood stated that he would like to see something to
buffer the residential area. Commissioner Schumacher stated that we
could go over these items when the project comes to the Planning
Commission for approval. Commissioner Higgins suggested that the
following conditions be added, Conditional Use Permit to be approved
by the Planning Commission; residential to be buffered; prohibit
access to Pearce street; preserve existing trees; and future
development of the site to be designed in conjunction with adjacent
property. Chairman Porter asked Mr. Moody if he agreed with the
conditions. Mr. Moody responded, after some clarification, that he
was in agreement.
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY HIGGINS EIR 84-3 WAS APPROVED BY
THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Porter, Erskine, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY HIGGINS LAND USE ELEMENT AND
RESOLUTION N0, 1111 WAS APPROVED WITH ADDITION OF OF ITEM 5
REDESIGNATING THE PROPERTY AT THE CORNER OF MAGNOLIA AND WARNER FROM
GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO MIXED DEVELOPMENT BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Porter, Erskine, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY HIGGINS ZONE CHANGE NO. 84-9 WAS
APPROVED TO REDESIGNATE 3.0 ACRES LOCATED EAST OF BOLSA CHICA STREET
AND SOUTH OF PEARCE TO C-4 WITH CONDITIONS BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL:
1. Any future development will be subject to approval of a
Conditional Use Permit by the Planning Commission.
2. The proposed development shall be designed so that the building
orientation is compatible with the adjacent residential areas.
3. The proposed development shall not ingress or egress on to Pearce
Street.
4. The proposed development shall preserve the existing mature trees
on site to the greatest extent possible.
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5. Any future development of this site shall be designed in
conjunction with the adjacent property zoned C4 to the south.
FINDINGS:
1. The C4 zoning is consistent with the recommended commercial
designation in Land Use Element Amendment No. 84-2.
2. Rezoning the site to accommodate commercial uses would be
compatible with surrounding land uses.
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Porter, Erskine, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY SCHUMACHER ZONE CHANGE 84-10 WAS
APPROVED TO DESIGNATE QM1A AND R3 WITH CONDITIONS BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
CONDITIONS OF THE "Q":
1. Any future development will be subject to approval of a
Conditional Use Permit by the Planning Commission.
2. At the time of development the project shall be required to
cover the flood control channel between Magnolia Street and
Warner Avenues.
3. The proposed project shall be designed and laid out to be
compatible with the adjacent single family residential tract
to the west.
4. The project entrance off Magnolia Street shall be designed to
City standards and compatible with the adjacent commercial
center to the south.
5. The project shall address the closure of Conner Drive to the
satisfaction of the City's Fire Department.
6. The area zoned MI -A shall be limited to mini -storage uses.
FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL:
1. The R3 and M1-A zoning would be consistent with the mixed use
designation in Land Use Element Amendment No. 84-2.
2. Rezoning the site to accommodate apartments and
mini -warehouses would be compatible with surrounding land uses.
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Porter, Erskine,
Schumacher, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
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ITEM C-1 USE PERMIT NO. 84-68 (APPEAL)
Applicant: Robert J. Koury
Use Permit 84-68 is a request to permit a convenience market in a
vacant building: The Board of Zoning Adjustments denied this
request on September 12, 1984 and this denial has been appealed.
The public hearing was opened. Jerry Bame, the appellant was
present to address the Commission. He stated that the building was
built for a savings and loan and was never used. He said that the
proposed use meets the requirement of the Downtown Specific Plan.
He submitted petitions signed by residents stating approval of the
market. Carl Gero, of the Community Bible Church, addressed the
Commission. He stated he was opposed to the market if they would be
selling alcohol. There were no other persons present to speak for
or against the item, and the public hearing was closed.
Glen Godfrey stated that at the Board of Zoning Adjustments hearing
there were many residents who opposed the project. He went on to
say that the BZA Board was concerned that people might congregate at
the site late at night. The Commission discussed restricting the
sale of liquor. Art Folger, legal council, recommended that the
Planning Commission could limit the Use Permit to the sale of beer
and wine.
ON MOTION BY HIGGINS AND SECOND BY MIRJAHANGIR USE PERMIT NO. 84-68
WAS APPROVED WITH AMENDED AND ADDED CONDITIONS BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
Commissioner Schumacher stated that she would be voting against the
proposal because the hours of operation should be restricted.
Commissioner Winchell requested that we add to the motion limiting
the hours to 6:00 AM to 11:00 PM. The motion was amended to include
the restricted hours of operation.
FINDINGS OF APPROVAL:
1. The establishment, maintenance and operation of the use will not
be detrimental to:
a. The general welfare of persons residing or working in the
vicinity;
b. Property and improvements in the vicinity of such use or
building.
2. The granting of the use permit will not adversely affect the
General Plan of the City of Huntington Beach.
3. The proposal is consistent with the City's General Plan of Land
Use.
4. The proposed use will be an interim use of the site.
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CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
1. The site plan dated August 9, 1984 shall be revised and
resubmitted depicting the modifications described herein:
a. Two additional on -site parking spaces.
2. In lieu of providing additional on -site parking, the property
owner shall enter into parking agreement with the Redevelopment
Agency. A copy of said agreement shall be submitted to
Development Services prior to issuance of building permits.
3. Prior to issuance of building permits, applicant shall file a
parcel map consolidating Lots 6, 8, 10, 12, 14 Block 504 of
Huntington Beach Tract. Said map shall be recorded prior to
final inspection or occupancy.
4. Pursuant to S.4.8.08 of the Downtown Specific Plan District 6,
additional right-of-way dedication may be required for alley
purposes.
S. At such time adjacent parcels are developed in accord with a
redevelopment plan or in accord with the Downtown Specific Plan,
driveway access to this site may be required to be modified so
as to be compatible with such future development. An agreement
to that effect shall be submitted to the City prior to issuance
of Building Permits.
6. The development shall comply with all applicable provisions of
the Ordinance Code, Building Division, and Fire Department.
7. This approval is an interim use until redevelopment of the
subject site and subject to review at 5 years, in order for the
use to continue.
8. Hours of operation shall be limited to 6:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m.
daily.
9. Sale of alcoholic beverage is limited to beer and wine.
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Porter, Erskine, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
ITEM C-2 CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO.
A justments
Applicant: Malcolm Sperling
84-55 (referred by Board of Zoni
Conditional Exception No. 84-55 is a request to allow an existing patio
cover structure to encroach 7 ft. into the 15 ft. front yard setback.
This application was referred to the Planning Commission after failing
to receive a majority vote of approval or disapproval from the Board of
Zoning Adjustments.
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The public hearing was opened. Malcolm Sperling, owner of the
property; addressed the commission. He stated that his problem came
about due to an error by his landscape architect. He said that when
they applied for building permit, they were advised that it was a good
project. He stated that when the house was originally built it was
designed with two driveways. He went on to say that if the driveway
was taken out it would tear up the landscaping that was just put in.
He indicated that he could move the patio but it would be very
expensive. He concluded by stating that his neighbors had signed a
petition stating their support of his project. There were no other
persons to speak for or against the item, and the public hearing was
closed.
Commissioner Higgins stated that he was in agreement with staff's
recommendation for approval; however, requested that finding number 1
be omitted. Commissioner Livengood stated agreement and added that he
drove by the property and the improvements look good.
ON MOTION BY ERSKINE AND SECOND BY SCHUMACHER CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO.
84-55 WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
Findings of Approval:
1. The granting of Conditional Exception No. 84-55 will not be
materially detrimental to the public welfare, or injurious to
property in the same zone classifications.
2. The granting of the conditional exception will not adversely
affect the General Plan of the City of Huntington Beach.
3. The proposed project is proposing a 7 ft. encroachment and is
minimal.
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Porter, Erskine, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
C-4 ZONE CHANGE NO. 84-16/NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 84-37/NEGATIVE
DECLARATION NO. 84-36
Applicant: John A. Thomas Crane & Trucking
Zone Change No. 84-16 is a request to rezone 5.23+ acres of property
to add the -01 suffix to the existing base zoning districts of the
property. The change would allow the establishment of an oil
operations site to include the drilling of new oil wells and related
activities.
The public hearing was opened. Glen Godfrey stated that Mr. Thomas
had telephoned and advised him that he would not be able to attend the
meeting. There was no one present to speak for or against the
proposal, and the public hearing was closed.
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Commissioner Winchell questioned if conditions are being enforced as
to screening and also what can be stored on the land. Mike Adams
responded that the last inspection was 8 to 9 months ago and the
conditions were being followed. Commissioner Schumacher recommended
that we could condition the Use Permit or Zone Change for fencing.
Chairman Porter recommended that the telephone poles be removed.
Chairman Porter directed staff to require a Use Permit to be reviewed
by the Planning Commission.
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY HIGGINS NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO.
84-36 WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Porter, Erskine, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
ON MOTION BY ERSKINE AND SECOND BY MIRJAHANGIR ZONE CHANGE NO. 84-16
WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
FINDINGS:
1. The Land Use Element of the General Plan designates the
property as general industrial, which is consistent with the
requested zoning designations of M1-01-CD, M1-A-01-CD, and
M1-01.
2. Oil production on the site will be compatible with
surrounding land uses.
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: Porter
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
ITEM C-5 ZONE CHANGE 84-17/NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 84-37
Applicant: G. P. Building Enterprises
Zone change No. 84-17 is a request to change the zoning from R5,
Office -Professional to R3, Medium -High Density Residential.
The public hearing was opened:
Robert Michelson, representing G. P. Building Enterprises, addressed
the Commission and stated agreement with staff report. He requested
that condition numbers 3 and 4 be removed. There were no other
persons present to speak for or against the item, and the public
hearing was closed.
Commissioner Livengood recommended that condition number 3 be
changed to as follows: subject to review by the Department of
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Development Services. He also recommended that condition number 4
be eliminated. Commissioner Schumacher stated that the project is
not compatible with the zoning district as the proposed project
exceeds 50% lot coverage. Commissioner Mirjahangir said that the
building could be turned to get below the 500 lot coverage.
Chairman Porter said that he agrees with Commissioner Schumacher
that this project is too intense for this area. Commissioner
Higgins stated he was against the project as the units should have
more individuality.
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY ERSKINE ZONE CHANGE NO. 84-17
WAS MADE FOR APPROVAL AS QUALIFIED; WHICH FAILED BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
AYES: Erskine, Mirjahangir, Livengood
NOES: Higgins, Winchell, Porter, Schumacher
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Chairman Porter asked Art Folger, Legal Council, if an additional
motion for denial was necessary. Mr. Folger stated that the
Commissions first motion was sufficient for Zone Change denial.
Item D-1 HUNTINGTON CENTER REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT PLAN
Commissioner Erskine suggested that the balance of the agenda be
continued to the next regular meeting as it is well past the normal
curfew time of 11:00 P.M. Chairman Porter stated that action must be
taken on Resolution No. 1335.
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY HIGGINS HUNTINGTON CENTER
REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT PLAN AND RESOLUTION NO. 1334 WAS APPROVED, BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
Commissioner Livengood recommended that there should be a finding that
states the City has also made a strong commitment to revitalize
underutilezed and deteriorating commercial areas. The Huntington
Center Commercial District Redevelopment Plan is designed to improve
the utilization of prime commercial property near Beach Boulevard and
Edinger Avenue and to alleviate problems of traffic circulation and
access which are preventing the area from attaining its full potential.
Commission Livengood questioned whether publicly owned parking facility
will remain in the Plan. Florence Webb responded that staff was
advised by outside legal council to leave this as it is. She went on
to say that the developer already has the power to build a parking
structure on his property. Commissioner Livengood stated that he was
concerned about this wording; however, with that explanation he would
go along with it.
Ayes: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Porter, Erskine, Mirjahangir
Noes: None
Absent: Schumacher (out of room)
Abstain: None
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Item D-2 RE UEST TO PERMIT THE CONSTRUCTION OF A PATIO COVER ON
PROPERTY CURREM'Ll ULCUPIED BY A NONCONFORMING AUTO ARD
Applicant: Huntington Beach Auto Dismantling
This is a request to permit the construction of a 24 foot by 42 foot
sun shade cover. Due to a change in the zoning, from Ml, Light
Industrial to M1-A, Restricted Manufacturing, the use of the property
as auto dismantling yard is considered nonconforming.
The public hearing was opened: Mr. Weatherly, owner of the property
addressed the Commission. He indicated that the property is fully
enclosed. He said that the patio cover will protect valuable inventory
and also that it can not be seen from the street. There were no other
persons to speak for or against the item, and the public hearing was
closed. Brief Commission discussion ensued.
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY ERSKINE THE REQUEST FOR
CONSTRUCTION OF A PATIO COVER WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
Ayes: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Porter, Erskine, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
Noes: None
Absent: None
Abstain: None
Item F-2 SITE PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 84-18
Submitted for the Planning Commission's review was a revised site lan
for Conditional Use Permit No. 84-15 (submitted by Humana Hospital for
-the integrated medical complex depicting reciprocal parking and
ingress/egress. This revision will no longer require a Conditional
Exception for reduction in parking. No action was required.
ADJOURNMENT:
There was no further business and the Commission adjourned at 1:10 AM.
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