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HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
Council Chambers - Civic Center
2000 Main Street
Huntington Beach, California
TUESDAY, November 27, 1984 - 7:00 PM
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Higgins, Livengood, Porter, Erskine (arrived
late), Schumacher, Mirjahangir
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: None
CONSENT CALENDAR:
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY MIRJAHANGIR THE MINUTES OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF OCTOBER 16, 1984 WAS APPROVED BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Porter, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Erskine
ABSTAIN: None
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY HIGGINS EXTENSION OF TIME FOR
TENTATIVE TRACT NO.10067 AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 81-31 WAS
APPROVED, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Porter, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Erskine
ABSTAIN: None
REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS:
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT No. 84-23/TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 12242
Applicant: Harold Tobin Bob Corona continued from 11-13-84
Conditional Use Permit No. 84-23 is a request to construct a 17 unit,
three story condominium development. Tentative Tract No. 12242 is a
proposed one lot subdivision for condominium purposes on the subject
property.
Mike Adams stated that the proposed development consists of 17 stacked
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condominiums situated in two three story buildings over one level of
subterranean parking. He said that the applicant has applied for
three special permits to allow compact parking spaces; eliminate the
upper story setback; and allow a 3 foot encroachment of two fin walls
into the required rear 7.5 foot setback. -
Commissioner Schumacher stated that the plan shows 14 ground level
garages for 17 units. She questioned whether there would be three
enclosed garages in the subterranean garage. Mike Adams responded
that three units would not have enclosed garages but would have
assigned covered spaces. Commissioner Schumacher stated concern that
these units would not have secured storage and would end up using
balconies for storage. Secretary Palin responded that it could be a
condition of approval to provide the residents who do not have
enclosed garages with one hundred cubic feet of storage area per unit.
Commissioner Schumacher questioned if the CC&R's could be conditioned
to require the residents to park in the garage because of the parking
problem in downtown area. Bob Sangster, legal counsel, responded that
this requirement should be in the CC&R's.
The public hearing was opened.
Robert Corona, the applicant, addressed the Commission: He stated
that he was in agreement with the conditions of approval. Bob Brye,
the architect, addressed the Commission. He stated that each resident
would have one hundred cubic feet of storage area that will be
partitioned and secured.
There were no other persons to speak for or against the project and
the public hearing was closed.
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY HIGGINS TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 12242
AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 84-23 WERE APPROVED WITH FINDINGS,
CONDITIONS, AND SPECIAL PERMITS, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
FINDINGS FOR SPECIAL PERMIT ITEMS
1. The inclusion of five compact parking spaces and allowing the
fin wall to encroach 3' into the rear setback will provide
maximum use of aesthetically pleasing architecture,
landscaping, open space areas and site design.
2. The proposed deviations will not be detrimental to the general
health, welfare safety and convenience of the neighborhood or
city in general, nor injurious to the value of adjacent
properties.
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3. The project is consistent with objectives of the DTSP in
achieving a development adapted to the terrain and compatible
with the surrounding environment:
FINDINGS FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT'NO.--84-23
AND TENTATIVE TRACT"NO: 12242
1. The proposed residential development will not have a
detrimental effect upon the general health; welfare, safety and
convenience of persons residing in the area; nor upon the value
of the property within the vicinity.
2. The proposed use is compatible with existing uses in the
vicinity.
3. The proposed development is consistent with the goals and
objectives of the General Plan and Downtown Specific Plan.
4. The property was previously studied for this intensity of use
at the time the Downtown Specific Plan zoning designation was
placed on the subject property.
5. The lot size; depth; frontage and through the use of a special
permit, all other design and implementation features of the
proposed subdivision are proposed to be constructed in
compliance with standard plans and specifications on file with
the city as well as in compliance with the State Subdivision
Map Act and Supplementary City Subdivision Ordinance.
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR CONDITIONAL USE'PERMIT #84-23:
1. Ube site plan; floor plans and elevations dated 11-26-84 shall
be revised and submitted for review and approval by the
Planning Director reflecting the following modifications:
a. Additional architectural treatment shall be provided along
the rear of the building "c" units facing the loth St.
alley; similar to the side elevation at building "b".
b. The stairway from the subterranean quest parking spaces to
grade level shall be relocated to as close to the "b" unit
building.* as possible.
c. Garage space for each tenant shall comply with Section 4111
of the H.'B.M.C.* by providing partitions between garages and
single car garage doors.
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d. All patio and balcony areas shall comply with the City's
minimum requirement.
2. Natural gas and 220V electrical shall be stubbed in at the
location of clothes dryers. This requirement may be waived
provided the applicant installs a more energy efficient
alternative subject to the review and approval by the
Department of Development Services or Director.
3. Natural gas shall be stubbed in at the location of cooking
facilities, water heaters and central heating units.
4. Low volume heads shall be used on all showers.
5. All building spoils such as unusable lumber; wire; pipe and
other surplus or unusable materials shall be disposed of at an
off -site area equipped to handle them.
6. Energy -efficient lighting shall be used in open space areas.
7. All dwellings on the subject property shall be constructed in
compliance with state acoustical standards set forth for units
that are within the 60 CNEL contour of the property.
8. A detailed soils analysis shall be prepared by a registered
soils engineer. This analysis shall include on=site sampling
and laboratory testing of materials to provide detail
recommendations regarding grading; chemical and fuel properties
foundations; retaining walls, streets and utilities; etc.
9. A detailed landscape and sprinkler plan shall be subject to the
approval of the Department of Development Services prior to the
issuance of building permits.
10. Trie location and design of all entry gates shall be reviewed
and approved by the Department of Development Services; Public
Works Department; and Fire Department prior to the issuance of
building permits.
11. A fire sprinkler system approved by the Fire Department shall
be installed throughout in accordance with Pamphlet 13 of the
National Fire Protection Association.
12. A wet fire standpipe system approved by the Fire Department
shall be installed near all stairway landings and comply with
Uniform Building Code standard 38.
13. Water and fire hydrant systems improved and upgraded to provide
a fire flow of 3;500 gallons per minute.
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14. All corridors and exitways to comply with Chapter 33 of the
Uniform Building code.
15. The elevator car is to be a minimum of 6'8" wide by 4'3" deep
to allow the use of an ambulance stretcher which has a minimum
size of 22" by 78" in its horizontal position.
16. All approved drives shall be considered required fire lanes and
shall be designed as deemed necessary by the Huntington Beach
Fire Department.
17. The two abandoned oil wells shall be modified as required by
the Fire Dept. prior to the issuance of building. permits.
18 The alleys and adjacent to the project shall be reconstructed
to full width per City Standards.
19. Minimum driveway width within parking structure shall be 25'.
20. The covenants, conditions, and restrictions shall be approved
as to form by the City Attorney and contain provisions that:
a. require garages to be accessible for parking motor
vehicles, and;
b. prohibit storage of boats, trailers and recreational
vehicles on the site.
21. All roof top antennas are prohibited.
22. Prior to the issuance of building permits the applicant shall
agree to provide housing units for persons of low or moderate
income subject to the provisions of Government Section 65590
(d). The applicants compliance with Section 65590 (d) of the
Government Code in terms of amount and location of affordable
housing provided shall be subject to the review and approval of
the Department of Development Services.
23. Prior to the issuance of building permits, a zone change shall
be submitted to eliminate the "0" designation on the
southernmost portion of the subject property.
24. The project's revised site plan and elevations shall be
submitted to the City's Design Review Board.
25. The project shall include one hundred cubic feet of private
storage space per unit.
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CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR TENTATIVE TRACT #12242:
1. The tentative tract map received and dated July 25, 1984 shall
be the approved layout.
2. All water connections shall be to the north/ south alley water
main.
3. The curb face on loth St.* shall be moved to 29 1/2' from
centerline. Also. the existing curb on Walnut Avenue and loth
St. shall be replaced with curb and gutter: Furthermore; and
8' sidewalk shall be constructed on loth St. and a 6' sidewalk
adjacent to the curb on Walnut Avenue:
4. Walnut Avenue and loth St. shall be improved to at least
centerline and the intersection of the streets modified to
accommodate full height curb at the return.
5. The street lights shall be relocated per S.C. Edison and City
Standards.
6. The existing overhead utilities shall be relocated underground
and a 2' wide public utility easement dedicated adjacent to the
parkway.
7. Drainage for the subject subdivision shall be approved by the
Dept. of Public Works prior to the recordation of a final map.
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Porter, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: Erskine
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 84=09 EXTENSION OF TIME-CUP-83-27
Applicant: Robert Zinngrabe
Conditional Exception No. 84-09 replaces Conditional Exception No.
83-27 which expired 11-15-83. Conditional Exception No. 8L-07 was a
request to permit a 98 unit senior citizen rental project with
exception for the number and size of parking spaces, perimeter
setback and unit size.
Mike Adams stated that several drive -by checks of the hospital area
have been performed and each time there were many available parking
spaces.
Commissioner Livengood noted that after reviewing the November 1983
minutes, it was requested to evaluate the standards in the Pacifica
Community Plan. lie questioned if this had been done. Mike Adams
responded that it had not and indicated that it would be initiated.
The public hearing was opened.
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Richard Harlow, representing the applicant; addressed the
Commission. fie stated that the project is tied in with huntington
Terrace and it does meet the parking standards. He said at the
Planning Commission's request, the applicant has entered into a
reciprocal agreement with Huntington Terrace regarding parking,
kitchen facilities, and recreational facilities. He suggested that
Condition 2 be revised to perform the parking study after the Tower
is completely occupied. He concluded by stating that they would not
have a problem with the conditions of approval as stated in the
staff report.
Commissioner Erskine arrived at this time.
Commissioner Schumacher questioned what criteria would make the
residents less mobile. Richard Harlow responded that the project is
geared to social security recipients who will choose to live there
because of the convenience to the hospital, shopping, bus lines, and
dining hall facilities. He stated that the City Fire Department
performed an age study at Huntington Terrace and the average age is
80 years. He said this projects move -in age will probably be
somewhat lower. he concluded by saying that the owner will be able
to control the number of vehicles by not renting to individuals with
automobiles if the parking became a problem.
Commissioner Mirjahangir questioned Mr. Harlow regarding the old
parcel map as to whether the parcels have been consolidated into
one. Mr. Harlow responded that they did not do the parcel map
because there were two separate owners and instead entered into a
consolidation agreement. Commissioner Winchell asked what would
happen if one parcel is sold. She questioned if the agreement could
tie a future owner. Nir. Harlow responded that if the property was
sold, the agreement states a maximum number of 269 units. If the
agreement was broken, the City could enforce the conditions of
approval.
Chairman Porter stated that previously it was determined that
parking at the Terrace would be available for the staff of the
medical site. F;e said that we need to resolve that problem by
determining the net availability of parking spaces over and above 98
units. Mr. Harlow responded that the hospital personnel could be
instructed to begin parking in the hospital lot. Chairman Porter
responded that part of the reason the Planning Commission relaxed
the parking requirements for the medical facility was because
overflow parking would go to the Terrace. He went on to say that
now we are developing next to the Terrace and that when the Tower is
fully occupied, this could create parking problems. Mr. Harlow
responded that parking could be conditioned at the Terrace and the
new project for their use only; and, require the parking study
before the certificate of occupancy. Chairman Porter stated that he
would
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prefer the survey performed prior to building permits. Mr. Harlow
responded that they did not have a problem with the survey.
There were no other person to speak for or against the project and
the public hearing was closed.
Secretary Palin stated that he had been visiting the hospital for
several weeks and had been at the hospital at all different times of
the day. He went on to say that a parking study at this time would
serve no benefit. He said there were many available parking spaces
at the times he visited the site. He recommended that the study be
done at the framing inspection to allow time to readjust parking
assignments and also for the Tower to fill in occupancy.
Commissioner Livengood stated that he was still concerned with the
ratio of parking. He said that this facility could be a disaster
for the City. He questioned the City Attorney whether it is legal
for the owner to not rent to someone because they do not have a
parking space for them. Bob Sangster, legal council, said that it
probably was not enforceable and could cause some problems.
Commissioner Livengood stated that he was not prepared to take any
action on this without the City Attorney's opinion on the agreement
of the two owners of one parcel. He said that this was continued at
the attorney's request to work out the legalities and that this had
not been done.
The Commission went on to discuss amending condition 2. There was
discussion for a preliminary parking study to be performed at this
time and a complete parking study before certificate of occupancy.
Chairman Porter stated agreement with Commissioner Livengood that
the supporting documents should be submitted before taking action.
ON MOTION BY ERSKINE AND SECOND BY MIRJAHANGIR TO APPROVE
CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 84-09, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
The Commission and staff went on to discuss the appropriate language
for condition 2.
Chairman Porter stated that he would be voting against the motion
because more thought should be given to the parking study and this
should not be worked out at the meeting. He recommended that this
be continued to the next regular meeting.
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY PORTER TO TABLE TO THE MEETING
OF LECLMBER 4, 1984 TO COME UP WITH APPROPRIATE WORDING FOR
CONDITION NO. 2, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
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AYES: higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Porter
NOES: Erskine, Schumacher, Mirjahangir
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 10067/CONDITIONAL USE -PERMIT NO. 84--32
Applicant: Seacliff Estates
Conditional Use Permit No. 84-32 in conjunction with Tentative Tract
No. 10067 is a request to revise the previously approved Tentative
Tract and Conditional Use Permit for Product Area B of the Seacliff
Phase IV project. Mike Adams stated that the revised site plan is a
request to permit a 430 unit planned residential development, with a
townhouse type design.
The public hearing was opened.
Dave Eadie, representing the applicant, addressed the Commission and
stated agreement with the conditions of approval. -
There were no other persons to speak for or against the project and
the public hearing was closed.
Chairman Porter asked*if the 12 inch section of sewer system
replaces the restriction that was causing a problem with the
existing Seacliff Development. Mr. Eadie responded that the
restriction had been replaced by the Orange County Sanitation
District.
ON MOTION BY MIRJAHANGIR AND SECOND BY HIGGINS TENTATIVE TRACT NO.
1O067/CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 84-32 WAS APPROVED, BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
Commissioner Livengood questioned what area was notified of the
public hearing. Howard Zelefsky responded that notification was
sent to addresses within a 300 foot radius from property the
lines. Commissioner Livengood asked how many dwelling units were
notified. 11oward Zelefsky responded that he did not have that
information in front of him but recalled it to be about a half a
dozen.
Commissioner Livengood stated that he was concerned that not one
resident utilizing Palm Street was notified of the project.
Chairman Porter stated concern that the density level was being
increased and felt that they should also increase the open areas.
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FINDINGS: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0.-84-32:
The Planning Commission may approve an application for a Conditional
Use Permit when it finds that the plan will substantially comply
with the requirements of this Article (936), the general plan of
land uses, and the development standards for the particular use.
1. The proposed project as presented is consistent with the land
use designation on the subject property.
2. If the Special Permit is granted, the proposed plan will be in
substantial compliance with the requirements set forth in
Article 936, planned unit development; and will be in keeping
with the intent of the ordinance.
FINDINGS: TENTATIVE TRACT 10067:
1. The proposed subdivision of this 37.3 acre parcel of land zoned
R2-PD-0-CZ, will be constructed having 11.5 units per acre.
2. The general plan has set forth provisions for this type of land
use as well as setting forth objectives for the implementation
of this type of housing. Therefore; the project as proposed
complies with the City's general plan.
3. The lot size, depth, frontage, street width, and through the
use of a Special Permit all other design and implementation
features of the subdivision, are proposed to be constructed in
compliance with standard plans and specifications on file with
the City, as well as in compliance with the State Map Act and
City Subdivision Ordinance.
CONDITIONS:
The Staff is recommending that all applicable adopted Conditions of
Approval for Conditional Use Permit 77=23 be maintained for
Conditional Use Permit 84-32 with the addition of the following:
Conditional Use Permit No. 84-32:
1. The site plan, floor plans; and elevations received and dated
November 14, 1984, shall be the approved lay' -out and design.
2. The City's 12 inch sewer main located between Palm Avenue and
Goldenwest Street, is anticipated to reach capacity at a
future date, during the construction of the Seacliff Phase IV
development. The City will monitor the flow periodically and
at the time Public Works Department determines that flows are
approaching capacity, the developer will be notified in
writing of the conditions. Within 90 days of notification,
the developer shall begin construction of remedial measures,
that are acceptable to the Department of Public Works, to
eliminate the capacity problem.
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3. Section 65590 (D) of the Government Code requires that new
housing developments constructed within the coastal zone
shall, where feasible, provide housing units for persons of
low and moderate income. Where it is not feasible to provide
these units in a proposed new housing development; the City
shall require the developer to provide such housing, if
feasible to do so, at another location within the same city or
county, either within the coastal zone or within three miles
thereof.
The Staff is recommending that prior to issuance of building
permits, the applicant shall enter into an agreement with the
City to provide affordable housing units within the Pacific
Ranch project. The minimum number of units shall be 46 and
shall be priced at or below that which is deemed affordable to
persons earning 120% of the median family income for this
statistical area of Orange County:
In the alternative, the applicant may enter into an agreement
with the City prior to issuance of building permits to provide
affordable housing units either on -site, through a transfer of
excess affordable unit credits with another developer, or
through any other method acceptable to the City at the time of
committment. The amount of affordable units to be provided
shall be not less than the requirements in effect at the time
the agreement is executed.
In both of the above instances, if affordable housing
requirements are no longer in existence at the time building
permits are to be issued, this condition of approval will not
longer be applicable.
4. All proposed gates shall be equipped with the Knox Locking
System, dual=keyed for police and fire access. (Compliance
with Specification 403)
5. Any road which is determined to be a fire lane shall be
painted red and posted with appropriate signing to meet Fire
Department specifications.
6. Prior to issuance of building permits, emergency access shall
be available northerly on 38th Street to the extension of
Garfield Avenue and from that point easterly along the
extension of Garfield Avenue to the intersection of Garfield
Avenue and Edwards Street. Such emergency access shall remain
in force until public access is available from Edwards Street
and Garfield Avenue to a.dedicated and improved 38th Street
having at least two 12-foot travel lanes.
The emergency access shall be subject to Fire Department
approval as to proper grading, alignment, identification,
illumination, and security method. In addition, the emergency
access shall be paved to a full twenty-four (24) foot width
and shall be maintained by the applicant and shall be
installed prior to the first occupancy.
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7. At the time of acceptance by the City Council of a final tract
for the subject property, any other layout depicted on a
tentative tract (for the same site) shall become null and void.
8. The applicant shall be responsible for any park and recreation
fees (or land dedication) which would be generated from the
proposed increase in density.
9. Buildings 26 or 27 shall be "jogged" in a similar manner as
to resemble the design movements in buildings 7 and 8.
10. Prior to issuance of permits, the applicant shall submit a
revised Tentative Tract map to the Department of Development
Services which reflects the layout of approved Site Plan dated
November 14, 1984.
AYES: I:iggins, Livengood, Erskine, Schumacher, Mirjahangir
NOES: Porter, Winchell
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Commissioner Livengood requested staff to review the notification
process.
SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT N0. 84-8
Applicant: Ron Sher
Special Sign Permit No. 84=8 is a request to modify and change copy
to an existing non -conforming 59 1/2 foot freestanding sign at
Loehmann's Five Points Plaza.
Mike Adams stated that there are two additional new freestanding
signs proposed for the center. He said that staff is recommending
that the applicant redesign all three signs and incorporate them
into the planned sign program.
Commissioner Higgins asked if staff was recommending that the two
signs at the corner be monument signs. Mike Adams responded that
these could be monument signs up to 12 feet high and 100 square feet
in area.
The public hearing was opened.
Ron Sher, the applicant; addressed the Commission. He said that the
original variance was granted in 1962 because the center was not on
Beach Boulevard. Fie said that they were under the opinion that they
could change the face of the sign under the original variance. He
went on say that they wanted to do something to improve the
appearance of the sign while not making drastic changes. He said
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that although the sign is large he felt it is not out of scale with
the grand entrance to the center. He concluded that the other two
signs are in accordance with the sign code.
There were no other persons to speak for or against the proposal and
the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Erskine stated that he is very pleased with the
improvements in the center; however, feels the sign is in poor taste.
Commissioner Higgins stated that he agreed that the existing sign is
not appropriate.
Commissioner Livengood stated that he could not support the proposed
sign. Iie said that the item could be continued for the applicant to
work with staff; or denied, and the applicant could appeal to the
Council.
Commissioner Livengood asked the applicant if he would be willing to
work with staff to redesign the signs. Mr Sher stated that he felt
strongly that he needs identification from Beach Boulevard and would
work with staff if it included such identification.
ON MOTION BY ERSKINE AND SECOND BY MIRJAHANGIR SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT
NO. 84-8 WAS DENIED, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood; Porter, Erskine, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Schumacher (out of the room)
AESTAIN: None
ITEMS NOT FOR PUBLIC'HEARING
PLANNING COMMISSION ITEMS
Commissioner Mirjahangir was appointed as the Planning Commission
Representative to the Specific Events Committee.
Commissioner Schumacher requested that staff include; in the staff
report, findings for approval and for denial:
Chairman Porter directed staff to advise applicants building in the
Downtown Specific Plan area to architecturally treat all four sides
of the building.
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY WINCHELL STAFF TO REQUIRE THAT
ITRUCTURES IN THE DONNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN HAVE ARCHITECTURAL
REATMENT ON ALL SIDE OF THE BUILDING, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
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AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Porter, Erskine, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
ON MOTION BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY HIGGINS THE PLANNING COMMISSION
MELTINGS IN JANUARY WILL BE HELD JANUARY 8, 1985 AND JANUARY 221
1985, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE
AYES: Higgins, Winchell, Livengood, Porter, Erskine, Schumacher,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ITEMS
Secretary Palin reviewed the actions taken by the City Council at
its most recent meeting for the information of the Commission.
ADJOURNMENT
There was no further business and the meeting adjourned at 10:50 PM:
a es W Pal n, Sec etary Marcus M. Porter, Mrir4p.An
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