HomeMy WebLinkAbout1985-01-08APPROVED January 22, 1985
MINUTES
HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
Council Chambers
2000 Main Street
Huntington Beach,
- Civic Center
California
TUESDAY, January 8, 1985 - 7:00 P.M.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Rowe, Winchell, Livengood, Porter, Erskine,
Schumacher, irja anger
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: None
Chairman Porter welcomed the new Commissioner, Richard Rowe, who is
replacing Commissioner Frank Higgins. He also read Resolution 1339
expressing appreciation to Frank Higgins for his outstanding
performance.
ON MOTION BY PORTER AND SECOND BY LIVENGOOD RESOLUTION 1339 WAS
ADOPTED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Schumacher, Livengood, Erskine, Porter,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN
Secretary Palin accepted nominations for Chairman and Vice
Chairman: A nomination for Chairman was made by Mirjahangir and
seconded by Schumacher for Tom Livengood: A nomination for Vice
Chairman was made by Winchell and seconded by Mirjahangir for Jean
Schumacher. The nominations were closed. Commissioner Livengood
was unanimously elected to office of Chairman, and Commissioner
Schumacher was unanimously elected to office of Vice Chairman.
CONSENT CALENDAR:
ON MOTION BY ERSKINE AND SECOND BY PORTER THE CONSENT CALENDAR
CONSISTING OF THE MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 130 1984, NOVEMBER 27, 1984,
DECEMBER 4, 1984, DECEMBER 18, 1984, AND EXTENSION OF TIME FOR
TENTATIVE TRACT 11560 AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 82-27, WAS
APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Winchell, Schumacher, Livengood, Erskine, Porter,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Rowe abstain all itemss - Winchell abstain Item A-1 -
Erskine abstain Item A-3
B. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None
REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS:
CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 84=70, APPEAL
Applicant: Frank J.'Hill
Conditional Exception No. 84-70 is a request to permit a portion of
a single family residence to encroach 5 feet into the required 5
feet side yard setback from a 25 feet wide view corridor easement
and another portion to encroach 5 feet into the required 5 feet
sideyard setback. The request was denied by the Board of Zoning
Adjustments. The applicant appealed to the Planning Commission.
Scott Hess of the Planning Staff, stated that the applicant is
proposing to construct a two -level single family residence with a
three car garage. The north side of the single family residence
will encroach five feet (5 feet) into the required five foot (5
feet) setback from the twenty-five foot (25 feet) wide view corridor
easement. A portion (108 square feet) of the residence will
encroach five feet (5 feet) into the required five foot (5 feet)
side yard setback of this irregularly shaped lot encumbered with
view corridor restrictions. The applicant's objective and
justification for the conditional exception is the property is (lot
number 5, Tract 7743) leaving only 30% of the lot buildable. The
variance will allow a larger single level living unit which is more
desirable by the applicants since they are an older couple who do
not wish to contend with interior stairways. The grade difference
from front to rear of the lot is 14 feet.
Conditional Exception No. 84-70, was reviewed and denied by the
Board of Zoning Adjustments on December 12, 1984 based on the
following findings:
1. The applicant was unable to demonstrate a hardship.
2. The granting of an encroachment into this five foot (5')
setback and into the open space (view) corridor would
constitute the granting of a special privilege inconsistent
with limitations upon properties in the vicinity.
3. The Planning Commission, in its action of March 2, 1976,
contained a discussion concerning this five foot (51) setback
and view corridor, and imposed a Condition of Approval
requiring this setback.
4. Staff recommended upholding the Board of Zoning Adjustments
decision based on the findings contained within the report.
Commissioner Porter asked staff to indicate the setback of the
structure on adjacent lot no. 9 as it relates to the view corridor.
Mr. Hess stated it was set back 5 feet from the south property line
of lot number 9. Commissioner Porter questioned if that was the
same requirement imposed on the property as imposed on the lot to
the south. Mr. Hess stated that it was also incorporated into a
standard 5 foot setback from any side property line and whether the
easement was there or not it would still require a 5 foot setback.
The view corridor easement is actually on lot no. 81" which is 80
feet in width.
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Commissioner Mirjahanger questioned if there was a conditional use
permit attached to the tentative tract map at the time of mutual
processing. Mr. Hess stated that there was not.
Commissioner Porter asked if the 5 foot setback from the view
corridor was also part of the recordation: Mr. Hess stated it was a
condition of the tentative tract but was not indicated on the map
nor recorded in any documents as far as staff could determine.
Commissioner Porter stated that the condition was imposed because
the approval of the tentative map included that requirement: Mr:
Hess stated that this was one of the reasons, and the other reason
was that the zoning code stipulates a 5 foot setback from any
easements. Commissioner Porter stated that there was a letter from
the City Attorney that indicated that unless such setback conditiona
had been appealed within appropriate amount of time then it stood as
stated in the approval.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
Rita Hill, applicant, stated that in March of 1984 she and her
husband contemplated buying this lot; She stated that before doing
so, they went to the building department of Huntington Beach and
were informed preliminarily that there were restrictions imposed
upon this lot which included a 15 foot front yard setback; a view
corridor easement of 25 feet and a 5 foot sideyard setback on the
other side of the lot; allowing a frontage of 50 feet upon which to
build a house. She said on July 5, the plans for the property were
approved, with corrections. She said they were later informed of a
private covenant of a 20 foot setback requirement - an agreement
between this property and adjacent properties.
Floyd G. Belsito, Attorney representing Mr. and Mrs. Hill, stated
that he had in his possession the Policy of Title Insurance which
does make reference to the 25 foot view corridor easement but does
not make reference at all to the condition of approval no. 18
regarding the 5 foot setback. He stated his concern for the
rational behind this 5 foot setback. He inquired at the City
Attorneys office if there was an ordinance or code provision that
mandated a 5 foot setback from the view corridor easement and was
advised by a memorandum that they see no rational basis for the code
revision that is referred to S. 9960.2 (c). The City Attorney, in
their memorandum, stated that the view corridor easement was not
necessarily inclusive of this particular section of the code and
therefore, without it being explicitly pointed out as being included
was not included; however, they did raise the other issue which was
the Statute of Limitations had run out. The only one who could have
objected would have been the owner of the property at the time this
particular condition was imposed. Mr. Belsito said the only
alternative for his client would be to seek regress through the
variance procedure which is why they appealed. Now that the Statute
of Limitations has run, the real issue is if the 5 foot setback
requirement for the view corridor easement is valid and reasonable
or is the taking an additional 5 feet from his clients property
without just compensation. Mr. Belsito pleaded for the Planning
Commission to look at the intent of what his clients are attempting
to accomplish. They acquired the property knowing there was an
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incumberance on it for a view easement of 25 feet: They had their
structure designed, after they had contacted the City and were
assured that the site plans they had purchased along with the
property had been layed out to accommodate a 15 foot setback: They
under the impression they could build right up to the 25 foot view
easement but without any architectural features encroaching into
that 25 foot view easement. They went ahead and had their detailed
plans drawn: Later they found out that there was a 20 foot setback
by private agreement. Mr. Belsito asked the Planning Commission to
take into consideration the fact that his client has every intention
of doing everything that is required by the City but they have
really encountered considerable expenses twice based upon
information given to them at the time of preliminary plan check
which turned out not to be complete: They are anxious to get moving
ahead with what would be a very important asset to the area.
Commissioner Porter questioned Mr. Belsito; asking had he at any
time discussed this subject with Mr. Armstrong. Mr. Belsito stated
that he had met with him while in Development Services listening to
the Planning Commission tape. Mr. Belsito stated that -he suggested
to Mr. Armstrong that he attend the Board of Zoning Adjustments
meeting to explain to them what had transpired and what he
represented to the Planning Commission at the time the view
easements were entered into. Mr. Belsito also stated that in the
Planning Commission meeting, it was clearly indicated that there was
to be a 5 foot setback from the view corridor easement.
Felicia S. Kassel, Attorney representing Carolyn Young who is owner
of lot no. 7, spoke in support for denial of Conditional Exception
84-70. She stated that the Title Report would have shown and does
show that the easement was recorded. She stated that her client
purchased her house, then submitted her bids and in building her
home she made certain adjustments so she could have a view that
would show out of the northern east,corner: She stated that the
applicant's variance request will set the home all the way up to the
property line ligating the 5 foot easement that is there. She
stated that her client thought she had a 20 foot easement whereas
there is only a 5 foot easement and if this is taken it will
restrict the view.
Robert Conway, 17172 Marina View, stated that he was not trying to
infringe on Mr. and Mrs. Hill's rights, but felt that people should
live up to their agreements. Robert Conway stated that the
neighborhood people paid $15,000 for the height limitations and the
view corridor easements. He felt that if there was a view easement
there which the developer, neighbors, and the City agreed to in good
faith that it should be kept that way.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED
Commissioner Erskine stated that'it is clear that the condition was
imposed for a specific reason. He stated that he felt they had
heard enough testimony to uphold BZA's denial of this conditional
exception and made a motion for approval of the suggested conditions
by staff which was seconded by Porter.
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Commissioner Porter also felt that the Commission should uphold the
BZA denial: He commented that it would be an act in bad faith to
that agreement which all three parties were signatory to at the time.
Commissioner Schumacher stated that she was in agreement with
Commissioner Porter as far as the 5 foot setback on the one section
that is adjacent to Carolyn Young's property simply because it is a
property line but she felt that on the other side if it was actually
a 35 foot view corridor that that Commission wanted or the deal was
cut on why didn't they say it was a 35 foot view corridor:
Commissioner Winchell stated that she wanted to support Commissioner
Erskine and Commissioner Porter. She stated that to discuss
easements many years later was irrelevant.. The intent, the clarity
of setting this forth is in our conditions and it is on Tentative
Tract 7743 and she stated that she would be supporting the motion.
Commissioner Erskine wanted to clarify the action by the Commission
to be based upon the findings for denial: Commission discussed the
revision of findings and added a new finding no. 6.
ON MOTION BY ERSKINE AND SECOND BY PORTER TO DENY CONDITIONAL
EXCEPTION NO. 84-70 WITH FINDINGS OF DENIAL -BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
FINDINGS'FOR DENIAL:
1. Because of the size, configuration and shape of the subject
property, there does not appear to be exceptional or
extraordinary circumstances or conditions applicable to the
land which do not apply generally to property in the same
district. Tract No. 7743 was approved in 1976 creating the
subject property in its current unique size, configuration and
shape in order to accommodate development similar in size to
that permitted on surrounding properties:
2. Exceptional circumstances do not apply that deprive the subject
property of privileges enjoyed by other properties in the same
zone classification because the lot is approximately 11,200
square feet in size and the buildable area excluding setbacks
is 3,250 square feet.
3. Since the subject property can be fully developed within
established setbacks, such a conditional exception is not
necessary for the preservation and enjoyment of substantial
property rights.
4. Granting of Conditional Exception No. 84-70 would constitute a
grant of special privilege inconsistent with limitations upon
properties in the vicinity.
5: The granting of Condition Exception No. 84-70 would be
inconsistent with the goals and policies of the General Plan.
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6. The Planning Commission, in its action of March 2, 1976,
imposed a condition of approval requiring that all structures
exceeding forty-two (42) inches in height be set back a minimum
of five (5) feet from the 25 foot view corridor easement which
is located on Lot No. 8. The height measurement of such
structures shall be from the finished grade of Marina View
Drive.
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Porter , Mirjahangir
NOES: Schumacher
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO. 84-9
Applicant: Texaco Incorporation
Special Sign Permit No. 84-9 is a request to permit three 2.5' X 15'
(37.5 square feet) "Texaco" signs with a 2'9" diameter (8.6 square
feet) star logo on three sides of a canopy. In addition, the
applicant is proposing a 5' X 10' (50 square foot), 5' high monument
sign to be placed at the corner of Edinger and Goldenwest.
Commissioner Porter commented that on the east elevation there is a
picture and a sign showing an existing pole sign to remain. He
asked if staff's condition was basically saying there won't be any
signs other than the ones specifically approved. Mike Adams stated
that that was correct.
Commissioner Rowe stated that he passes this corner everyday on his
way to work and feels the will the
proposal make corner more
attractive.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
Mark Murphy, agent for Texaco Company for sign modifications, stated
that staff proposed basically what Texaco wanted. He pointed out
past signs they had done for Texaco. He questioned the Zody sign
that stands on the corner of the Texaco property as to who would be
responsible for removing it.
Mike Adams stated that Zodys have submitted a special sign request
to the City and they will not be taking advantage of the existing
pole they will be locating the sign in a different location with a
different design. The financing of taking the existing sign down
can be worked out between the Texaco applicant and the Home Depot,
but the condition states that prior to Texaco getting building
permits, the Zody sign must come down.
Chairman Livengood asked if this condition also stood for the Home
Depo. Mike Adams stated yes.
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THE PUBLIC"HEARING'WAS CLOSED
Chairman Livengood stated that he felt condition number five seemed
a restrictive requirement for an applicant who has nothing to do
with the sign. He felt it was not clearly stated as to who would
foot the bill to bring the Zody's sign down: Mike Adams stated that
the sign was on the property which Texaco has control over and that
is the reason this condition is with this application.
Commissioner Porter asked if condition number 7 intended to include
all of these types of signs: He stated he did not want any
misunderstanding to exist as to what signs are approved: He
suggested stating that no other signs other than those contained in
this -approval shall be permitted: Mike Adams stated that we could
apply that wording to condition number 7.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY' ERSKINE AND SECOND BY SCHUMACHER TO APPROVE
SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO. 84-9 WITH THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF
APPROVAL BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL:
1. Strict compliance with Article 976, which does not allow roof
signing, will result in a substantial economic hardship to the
applicant due to the lact of building facade with sufficient
street exposure for sign display.
2. The proposed three canopy and one monument signs will not
adversely affect other signs in the area: There will be an
overall reduction of total sign area.
3. The proposed canopy signs will not be detrimental to property
located in the vicinity of such signs and will be compatible
with the surrounding area.
4. The proposed canopy and monument signs as modified will not
obstruct pedestrian or vehicular vision. Vision will be
improved because the three signs at the corner will be replaced
by one. The monument sign will be setback at a distance so as
not to obstruct street intersection visibility.
SUGGESTED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL:
1. The site and elevations dated December 3, 1984 shall be revised
resubmitted depicting the following modifications:
a. Dimension the site plan and elevations.
b. Setback the proposed monument sign so as not to impede
street intersection visibility as required by Section
9775.3 of the Huntington Beach Ordinance Code.
c. Add a minimum 18" base (maximum sign height is V) and
frame to monument sign that is architectural compatible
with the station subject to review and approval by the
Planning Director.
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2. The canopy signs shall be no greater than 2'6" X 15' in size
and the logo shall be no greater than 2'9" in diameter. Copy
on the canopy sign shall be limited to "Texaco" storage.
3. All signs shall be removed from the existing building and no
new signs shall be permitted.
4. No signs shall be allowed on the kiosk or above the pump
islands other than operation instructions or similar type signs.
5. The Zody's pole sign shall be removed prior to the issuance of
any building permits.
6. The existing price signs shall be removed. The only price
signs approved shall be as depicted in the approved plans dated
December 3, 1984.
7. All portable type signs shall be strictly prohibited. Only
those signs contained in this approval shall be allowed on site.
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Schumacher, Livengood, Erskine, Porter,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT No. 84-34
Applicant: Donald Johann Bruyn
Conditional Use Permit No. 84-34 is a request to establish an 800
square foot sandwich shop (Bangers) in an existing industrial
building located at 18101 Redondo Circle, Unit T.-
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPEN
There were no persons to speak for or against the proposal and the
public hearing was closed.
ON MOTION BY PORTER AND SECOND BY MIRJAHANGIR TO APPROVE CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT NO. 84-34 BASED ON THE SUGGESTED FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS
BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
FINDINGS:
1. The establishment, maintenance and operation of a sandwich shop in
an industrial district will not be detrimental to the general
welfare of persons living or working in the vicinity or to the
property and improvements in the vicinity.
2. The granting of the conditional use permit will not adversely affect
the General Plan of the City of Huntington Beach.
3. The proposal is consistent with the City's General Plan of Land Use.
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4. The granting of a conditional use permit is consistent with the
development standards contained in Article 951 of the Huntington
Beach Ordinance Code.
CONDITIONS•
1. The site plan, floor plans, and elevations dated November 11, 1984,
shall be the approved layout.
2. The proposed use shall comply with all applicable provisions of the
City's Ordinance Code and building division.
3. The signing for the business shall be limited to one attached
identification sign located on the restaurant suite itself and is
subject to a separate approval.
4. The use approved by this permit shall be limited to 800 square feet;
any expansion shall be subject to approval of an additional
conditional use permit.
5. The addition,of more than three tables for sit-down dining shall be
subject to approval of a new entitlement by Planning Commission.
6. Any operation of a catering business from the restaurant shall be
limited to two employees and a maximum of one truck or van.
7. The hours of operation shall be 9:00 a.m. - 2:00 p.m. Any expansion
in the number of hours the restaurant remains open for business
shall be subject to the approval of a new entitlement by the
Planning Commission.
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Livengood Erskine, Porter, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Schumacher out of the room
ABSTAIN: None
PENDING ITEM LIST
The list of pending items were reviewed by the Commission. Commissioner
Livengood requested that the 1984 numbers be used on all past items.
PLANNING COMMISSION ITEMS
Commissioner Porter requested a Cable Systems update and, if available, a
map showing the completed cable systems. He also requested a letter be
sent to Mola Devlopment with regard to their conditio_n__on providing a
central antenna for the residential complex.
Chairman Livengood commented on a newspaper article regarding Humana
Hospital expansion.
Commissioner Winchell stated that they were not receiving City Council
Meeting Agendas. She also requested that the Commission receive copies
of any correspondence on pending list items.
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Commissioner Schumacher requested a report from the Attorney's Office on
clean up of estate area adjacent Goldenwest Street.
Commissioner Erskine requested that a letter be sent to Cable systems in
regard to the situation of rusting cable boxes in the harbiour-)..:: He also
requested an update on the Alley adjacent to Heil.
Commissioner Livengood had five items of suggestion for 1985 which are
listed below:
1. More time to planning and review, for example: The City's
notification to property owners of pending projects, review of
projects that have been approved and completed, assist Commissioners
in making decisions on future projects and possible recommended
ordinance changes.
2. Improve communications with City Council on actions taken by the
Planning Commission.
3. Complete items on pending list and encourage Commissioners to
continue to add new items that need to be corrected and assist in
seeing that ordinances are enforced.
4. Encourage Commissioners to actively support assigned standing
committees.
5. Commissioners continue their excellent attendance of meetings.
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ITEMS
Secretary Palin reviewed the actions taken by the City Council at its
most recent meeting for the information -of -the Commission.
ADJOURNMENT
The Chairman adjourned the meeting at 9:04 P.M. to the next regular
meeting of January 22, 1985.
Tom L v n ood, ha' man
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