HomeMy WebLinkAbout1985-02-20APPROVED MARCH 5, 1985
MINUTES-
HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
Council Chambers - Civic Center
2000 Plain Street
Huntington Beach, California
TUESDAY, February 20, 1985 - 7:00 P.M.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Rowe, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine
Schumacher, Mirjahangir
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Porter
CONSENT CALENDAR:
Chairman Livengood requested that the minutes of February 5, 1985 be
completed and submitted at the.next regular meeting.
B. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
B-1 Planning Commission concerns on the Redevelopment Pro3ect
Areas.
Chairman Livengood stated that the Commission would discuss
the written report at the end of the meeting. He stated that
City Council and Mayor Bailey submitted a letter asking if the
Commission would look at a full day for a joint study session
to evaluate outside facilities such as signs, flood control,
parking authorization etc.
REGULAR AGENDA -ITEMS:
C-1 SPECIAL -SIGN PERMIT NO. 84-10 (continued from February 5, 1985)
Applicant: Artech Signs, Inc. 11 1 .
Special Sign Permit No. 84-10 is a request to maintain the
replacement of a cabinet sign at the top of an existing
non -conforming 40 feet high freestanding sign structure. The sign
is located on the south side of Edinger Avenue approximately-500
feet east of Sher Lane. The new "OLE'S" internally illuminated
cabinet sign has a bright yellow background, bright red lettering,
and a bright red strip around the edge of the cabinet.
The applicant has initiated a special sign permit because the
existing sign is inconsistent with Article 976 of the Huntington
Beach Ordinance Code.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED:
Applicant John Armatich spoke accompanied by Earl Mosley of Artech
Signs, and Mike Liberan of Ole's. he stated that it was not their
intent to install the signs without permits. He stated that he is
requesting a special sign permit to allow the sign to stand for at
least two years because he had such a large investment in the
project. He stated that he was never told about the redevelopment
area.
There were no other persons to speak for or against the proposed
project, and the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Winchell stated it indicated on the staff report that
on October 19, 1985 an Administrative Action was initiated and.at
that time the sign was non -conforming. She questioned.if ptaff had
informed the applicant that they needed a special sign permit.
Mike Adams stated that the project did not quality as administrative
action due to the fact that the applicant replaced the whole can
instead of changing just the sign face.
Commissioner Winchell asked staff if,an-administrative action would
have come in front of the Planning Commission and if the applicant
was aware of this procedure.
Mike Adams stated yes that the applicant was informed of the
procedure.
Chairman Livengood stated that the applicant indicted, due to the
errors, that he would support a plan to remove the sign in two
years. Commissioner Livengood questioned the Commission if_they
would consider a two year time limit on approval of this sign.
Secretary Palin stated that this type of action may set a precedence
where other applicants will come in changing the face etc. without a
permit and then come before the Commission for Approval)under.__
entitlement thereby sanctioning an illegal act.
Commissioner Rowe stated that he concurred with Secretary Palin's
comment.
Commissioner Winchell asked staff if the wall signs were in —
conformance. Mike Adams stated that the wall signs were,also.,
installed without permits.
Commissioner Schumacher stated that she agreed with Commissioner
Rowe and Secretary Palin. She stated that she would like to see the
sign removed because it was out of character with the whole center.
She felt that the applicant should have followed the legal procedure.
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Commissioner Erskine stated that he supported Commissioner
Schumacher.
ON MOTION BY WINCHELL AND SECOND BY ROWE SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO.
84-10 WAS DENIED BASED ON THE FINDINGS FOR DENIAL BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Schumacher, MirDahangir
NOES: Livengood
ABSENT: Porter
ABSTAIN: Erskine
Findings for Denial:, il '
1. Strict compliance with Article 976 will not result in a
substantial economic hardship to the applicant-in•that
adequate exposure of the business can be provided by more
appropriate signage.
2. The proposed sign may adversely affect other signs in the area
and would establish a precedent within a Redevelopment Project
Area.
3. The 40 foot high sign will be detrimental to the property
located in the vicinity of such sign.
4. The size and design and location of the proposed 40 foot sign
may obstruct vehicular traffic.
C-2 SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO. 85-1
Applicant: J.C. Penney/George MacNevin:
At the Planning Commission meeting of February 5, 1985, the
Commission continued Special Sign Permit No. 85-1, a request for new
signage at Penney's in Huntington Center, and directed staff to
prepare an alternative action for approval of applicant's request.
Staff has received confirmation from the Center's Management Company
that a Planned Sign Program is currently being prepared and will be
submitted for review and approval within the next two months,.
The Planned Sign Program will address existing and proposed,
exterior and freestanding signage within Huntington Center as part
of the Redevelopment Project Area. It is required as part of the
Huntington Center Commercial District Redevelopment Plan which will
develop a common sign theme by incorporating consistent design
elements such as letter style, colors, etc.
Commissioner Livengood commented on Condition No. 3 stating that
this item should be negotiated and suggested deleting it. Mike
Adams stated that that condition should be dropped.
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THE PUBLIC HEARING ,WAS OPEN:
George MacNevin, Representative for J.C. Penney, spoke in behalf of
his project stating that he had reviewed all the findings and
conditions and was in agreement with them.
There were no other persons to speak for or against the proposed
project, and the public hearing was closed.
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Commissioner Winchell stated that the total wall sign should be
stated in Findings No. 1 and 2 as to what we are doing.
Commissioner Schumacher suggested taking out Finding No. 1.
Commissioner Erskine stated that he felt the finding was appropriate.
ON MOTION BY ERSKINE- AND SECOND BY MIRJAHANGIR SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT
WAS APPROVED WITH FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Schumacher, Livengood, Erskine,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Porter
ABSTAIN: None
Findings for Approval:
1. Strict compliance with Article 976 of the Huntington Beach
Ordinance.Code will result in,,a substantial economic.hardship
because the total wall sign.area,of-300 square feet allowed is
insufficient to provide adequate sign exposure for the
Penney's building which is setback 600 feet from Edinger, 1500
feet from Beach Boulevard, and 1000 feet from the San Diego
Freeway.
2. The proposed wall signs will not adversely affect other signs
in the area because they are a substantial reduction from the
existing wall signs of 760 square feet to 520 square feet.
3. The proposed wall signs will not be detrimental to property
located in the vicinity of sign; and will be compatible with
the surrounding area.
4. The proposed wall signs will not obstruct pedestrian or
vehicular traffic vision.
Conditions of Approval•
1. The site plan and elevations received and dated January 4,
1985 shall be the approved layout.
2. Prior to the issuance of building permits, a letter from the
property owner shall be submitted guaranteeing that.the
Penney's signs shall be made to conform to the Huntington
Center Planned Sign Program within 6 months of approval of the
Planned Sign Program.
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C-3 CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 84-67
Applicant: E. Van Vlahakis:
Conditional Exception No. 84-67 is a request to allow a 6 ft high
wall to encroach four (4) feet into the required 15 ft frontyard
setback; a request for variance from Section 9103.1. This
application was referred by the Board of Zoning Adjustments to the
Planning Commission for action based on the Board's finding that
there are more variances in the neighborhood than compliances.
There were no persons present to speak for or against the proposed
pro3ect.
Chairman Livengood questioned staff if the applicant had been
notified of the meeting. Mike Adams stated yes. Commissioner
Winchell questioned staff if the applicant was notified that he
needed the 15 foot setback. Mike Adams stated yes.
ON MOTION BY MIRJAHANGIR AND SECOND BY WINCHELL CONDITIONAL
EXCEPTION NO. 84-67 WAS DENIED WITH FINDINGS FOR DENIAL BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Schumacher, Mir3ahangir
NOES: Livengood, Erskine
ABSENT: Porter
ABSTAIN: None
FINDINGS FOR DENIAL:
1. Because of the size, configuration, shape and lack of unique
topographic features of the subject property, there does not
appear to be exceptional or extraordinary circumstances or
conditions applicable to the land, buildings or premises involved
that does not apply generally to property or class of uses in the
same district.
2. Since the subject property can be fully developed within regular
established setbacks, such a conditional exception is not
necessary for the preservation and enDoyment of substantial
property rights.
3. The subject property was legally subdivided and developed in a
manner consistent with applicable zoning laws.
4. Exceptional circumstances do not apply that deprive the subject
property of privileges enjoyed by other properties in the same
zone classifications.
5. Encroachment into the required setback is not compatible with
setbacks established for properties in the vicinity and would
constitute a special privilege inconsistent with limitations upon
those properties.
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6. Swimming pool permit was issued in compliance with current City
Codes. Approved plan depicted wall to be constructed on bond beam
and at the fifteen (15) foot setback line.
C-4 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 84-28
Applicant: Marie Juergas:
The applicant, Marie Juerges has requested a continuance from the
February 20, 1985 meeting to the March 5, 1985 meeting.
ON MOTION BY MIRJAHANGIR AND SECOND BY WINCHELL TO APPROVE THE REQUEST
TO CONTINUE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 84-28 TO MARCH 5, 1985 BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Schumacher, Livengood, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Erskine, Porter
ABSTAIN: None
C-5 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 85-1
Applicant: Suzie Kyung Hong:
Conditional Use Permit No. 85-1 is a request to maintain a massage
establishment in accordance with Article 975 - Adult Entertainment
Businesses. On November 6, 1981, the City Council adopted a zoning
ordinance (Arti,cle,975 - Adult Entertainment Businesses) which
established locational criteria for massage parlors. The ordinance
requires that massage parlors (and all adult entertainment businesses)
be located in a C2, C3 or C4 zone and that the nearest point of the
building or structure used as a part of the premises where the
business is located be at least 200 feet from residentially zoned
property, 500 feet from any lot upon which there is located a church
or educational institution utilized by minors, and 1,000 feet from any
lot on which there is located another adult entertainment use.
Further, all such uses were required to obtain conditional use permit
from the Planning Commission.
All adult entertainment businesses which were in existence at the time
of adoption of the ordinance and which were rendered non -conforming
because of the locational criteria, were given three years to
relocated to an appropriate location or be discontinued. The
amortization period was to expire on November 6, 1984; however, it was
extended six months to June 2, 1985.
THE PUBLIC NEARING WAS OPENED:
Robert DePiano spoke on behalf of the applicant stating that the
Attorney's opinion was that the business was in conformance at the
time and he would be willing to drop the conditional use permit if the
commission were to take the Attorney's opinion. He stated that the
staff report was very clear. He stated that there have not been any
problems with the police and that they recommend the application be
approved.
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There were no other persons to speak for or against the -proposed
project, and ,the, public hearing was -.closed.
Chairman Livengood expressed his concern that only about 6 or 7 home
owners had been notified due to the flood control channel.
Commissioner Erskine also stated that he could not see the merit of
not notifying people on the other side of the flood control channel.
Commission discussed this point to expand public notice beyond the 300
foot notice requirement area.
Commissioner Schumacher stated that she could not support approving
this permit due to the fact that across Warner Avenue in Fountain
Valley City Limits is an amusement park frequented by minors.
Commissioner Erskine questioned staff as to whether this Massage
Parlor is conforming. Mike Adams stated yes, that th.is.one is
conforming by location criteria alone. Commissioner Schumacher
questioned staff if the closest school was beyond 500 feet. Mike
Adams stated yes. Commissioner Schumacher stated that she could not
understand how the business conforms when it is within 500 feet where
minors are present (referring to across the street in Fountain Valley).
Commission review ensued. Due to the controversy of this item,
Commission along with the applicant's concurrence, decided to continue
Conditional Use Permit No. 85-1 until March 5, 1985 and to expand the
notification area to the neighboring residential area.
ON MOTION BY WINCHELL AND SECOND BY,ERSKINE THE MOTION WAS -PASSED TO
CONTINUE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 85-1-TO MARCH 5, 1985 BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Mirjahangir
NOES: Schumacher
ABSENT: Porter
ABSTAIN: None
C-6 ZONE CHANGE NO. 84-21/CONDITI0NAL USE PERMIT NO. 84-39
Applicant: Mobile Oil Corporation:
Zone Change No. 84-21 is a request to change the zone.from C2 to C2-SS
as required by.Article 948 Conditional Use Permit No. 84-39 is a
request to establish a new self-service service station with
convenience market. S.9430.8 (b) lists convenience markets with
gasoline sales as a permitted use subject to approval of a conditional
use permit.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPEN:
Jim Huntsberry, Representative for Mobil Oil, stated that he agreed
with all of staff's recommendations. He stated that he would -like to
maintain the driveway on Bolsa.
Chairman Livengood
Approval regarding
Huntsberry agreed.
suggested adding "d" to Suggested Conditi-ons of
a customer convenience window included. Mr.
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There were no other persons to speak for or against the proposed
project, and the public hearing was closed.
ON MOTION BY ERSKINE AND SECOND BY MIRJAHANGIR ZONE CHANGE NO. 84-21
AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 84-39 WAS APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS BY
THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Schumacher, Livengood Erskine
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Porter
ABSTAIN: None
Findings for Approval Zone Change No. 84-21:
1. A change of Zone from C2, Community Business District, to C2-SS,
Community Business District - Service Station, is consistent
with the General Plan designation of General Commercial and
intent and purpose of Article 948.
2. The proposed zone change is compatible with the surrounding
commercial uses.
FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL Conditional Use Permit No. 84-39:
1. The establishment, maintenance and operation of the use will
not be detrimental to:
a. The general welfare of persons residing or working in
the vicinity;
b. Property and improvements in the vicinity of such use
or building.
2. The granting of the conditional use permit will not adversely
affect the General Plan of the "City of Huntington Beach.
3. The proposed convenience market with gasoline sales is
compatible with surrounding land uses, which include
commercial uses to the east, west, north, and south.
4. The proposed convenience market substantially complies with
the provisions outlined Article 943 of the Ordinance Code.
SUGGESTED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
1. The site plan received and dated February 6, 1985 shall be
revised to include the following:
a. Relocation of building to provide 20 feet clear width
drive along west side of building.
b. Closure of the Bolsa Avenue driveway nearest the
intersection and replaced with landscaping.
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C. Relocation of parking space No. 7 to be parallel
adjacent to Bolsa Avenue landscape planter.
d. The inclusion of a customer convenience window in the
building.
2. No building permit shall be issued until Zone Change"No.
84-21 becomes effective.
3. Prior to issuance of building permits, the applicant shall
submit the following plans:
a. Landscape and irrigation plan to the Department of
Development Services-'and:Public Works for review and
approval.
b. Rooftop Mechanical Equipment Plan. Said plan shall
indicate screening of all rooftop mechanical,equipment
and shall delineate the type of material proposed to
screen said equipment.
4. Landscaping shall comply with S. 9430.8.1(b) and all
applicable sections pertaining to landscaping within Article
948 of-the'Huntington Beach Ordinance Code. -
5. The development shall comply with all applicable provisions
of the Ordinance Code, Building Division, and Fire Department.
6. The applicant shall obtain the necessary permits from the
South Coast Air Quality Management District.
7. All signs shall comply with Articles 943, 948 and 976 of the
Huntington Beach Ordinance Code.
8. Development'shall"meet-all local and State regulations
regardirig'installation and-operatiori'of all underground
storage tanks.
9. Low -volume heads shall be used on all spigots and water
faucets.` '
10. Ali building spoils, such as unusable lumber, wire, pipe, and
other surplus or unusable material, shall be disposed of at
an offsite facility equipped to handle them.
11. If lighting is included in the parking lot, high-pressure
sodium vapor lamps shall be used for energy savings. All
outside lighting shall be directed to prevent "spillage" onto
adjacent properties.
12. A detailed`soils analysis shall be prepared by a registered
Soils Engineer. This analysis shall include on -site soil
sampling and laboratory testing of materials to provide
detailed recommendations regarding grading, chemical and fill
properties, foundations, retaining walls, streets, and
utilities.
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Livengood expressed concern about the public notice involved
with the BZA. Chairman Livengood stated that he was concerned
about what items went to the Board of Zoning Adjustments.
Commissioner Winchell suggested the idea of a subcommittee to
review BZA issues. Chairman Livengood appointed himself and
Commissioner Winchell volunteered to serve on the committee.
F. Pending Items:
Commissioner Schumacher expressed concern about the "head"
shops in Huntington Beach. She questioned if there was some
type of code regulating these uses. Attorney Sangster sited
the section of the Municipal Code which governs "head" shops.
Commissioner Schumacher also expressed concern about satellite
dish antennas being considered roof aparatus. Mike Adams
stated yes, and that they are required to be screened. Staff
is also working on a code amendment to further regulate dish
type antennas.
G. Oral Communication:
City Attorney Sangster reviewed the proposed revised bylaws.
H. Planning Commission Items:
Commission discussed the time and date of the next study
session which will take place March 5, 1985 at 6:00 p.m.
Commissioner Livengood handed out a schedule of the Planning
Commission meeting dates showing the months that have an extra
Tuesday suggesting these dates for possible study sessions.
Chairman Livengood also handed out a memorandum addressed to
Mayor Bailey for the Commissions review in regards to the
Redevelopment Projects in Downtown Area with the
recommendations of the Planning Commission from the study
session.
a. Adjournment:
Adjourned at 10:27 p.m. to the next regular meeting and study
session combined on March 5, 1985.
�W.in, Secretary Thomas Live -fig od, Ch,zeirm n
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13. If foil -type insulation is to be used, a fire retardant type
shall be installed as approved by the Building Division.
C-7 ZONE CHANGE NO. 84-20/NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 85-8
Applicant: City of Huntington Beach:
On November 5, 1985, the City Council directed staff to pursue
acquiring property for a proposed mobilehome park in the vicinity of
the existing mushroom farm and to proceed with rezoning property not
in conformance with the general plan designation or with the
Huntington Central Park Master Plan. The minutes state that if the
land could not be purchased for the mobilehome park that it be
designated as part of the park rather than to have it develop as any
more intensive type of use. Whether or not the mobilehome park is
developed, the current Light Industrial zoning is incompatible and
inconsistent.
The Planning Commission public hearing this evening is the first step
in responding to the Council's request.
Chairman Livengood questioned staff if there would be any effect on
the Holly property proposal. Mike Adams stated that Holly property
was south of Ellis Street. Commissioner"Schumacher questioned staff
if the designation calls for low residential density. Mike Adams
stated one unit per acre.
Commissioner Schumacher questioned staff if the reason for this item
is to put a mobilehome park on it. Mike Adams stated not necessarily.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED:
Ted Grussing, representing Nancy Smiley,'ekpressed concern about the
value of the property dropping due to the Zone Change.The public
hearing was closed.
Chairman Livengood questioned staff if the action to be taken is a
zone change from M1 to RA -CD, he stated that the Commission needed
direction on this.
Mike Adams stated that the reason for this'zone change was to make the
property consistent with the General Plan. He stated that the
rezoning is not for the Mobile Home Park but to bring the plan into
conformance. Commissioner Schumacher questioned staff on the market
value of the property if the zone is changed. Chairman Livengood
asked the City Attorney what the value of the property was with the
zone change. Attorney Sangster stated that that was not a legal
question.
ON MOTION BY WINCHELL AND SECOND BY ERSKINE ZONE CHANGE NO.
84-20/NEGATIVE DECLARATION WAS APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
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AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Schumacher, Livengood, Erskine,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Porter
ABSTAIN: None
ITEMS NOT FOR PUBLIC HEARING:
D. Items not' 'for' Public Hearing" " '
E. Discussion Items
E-1 Proposed Code Amendment t'o Article No. 975 (Adult
Entertainment Businesses-)
Commission questioned the timing on this item. Mike Adams
stated that it could be brought back for a public hearing in 30
days, Attorney'Sangster stated he agreed. Livengood questioned
if this code amendment would be posted in the newspaper for
public notice, staff stated yes. Commissioner Winchell
suggested looking at additional criteria in regard to distance
from facilities utilized by minors and to include family
oriented facilities geared towards minors.
E-2 SIGN CODE AMENDMENT
Input from Planning Commission
Commission voted to discuss this item at a study session on
March 5, 1985
E-3 OLDTOWN AND TOWNLOT
CODE AMENDMENT NO. 85-2
Limiting "Bootleg" &ni s" I -
The Commission discussed the intent of the ordinance. Staff
stated that the ordinance would help limit the conversion of
single family dwellings to multiple rental units to some
degree; however, the problem is pervasive and will be difficult
to control and enforce.
E-4 Review of Article 981
Board of Zoning Adjustments
Commission discussed and reviewed Article 981, Chairman
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