HomeMy WebLinkAbout1985-09-17APPROVED OCTOBER 15, 1985
MINUTES
HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
Council Chambers - Civic Center
2000 Main Street
Huntington Beach, California
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 17, 1985 - 7:00 P.M.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Rowe, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Porter,
Mirjahangir
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Schumacher
CALL TO ORDER
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
A. CONSENT CALENDAR:
A-1 Minutes from August 20, 1985 meeting.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY ERSKINE AND SECOND BY PORTER TO APPROVE
THE AUGUST 20, 1985 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES WITH
CORRECTIONS BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Porter,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Schumacher
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
A-2 Minutes from September 4, 1985 meeting.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY ERSKINE AND SECOND BY MIRJAHANGIR TO
APPROVE THE SEPTEMBFR 4, 1985 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
MINUTES BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Porter,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Schumacher
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
A-3 General Plan Conformance no. 85-6
The Department of Public Works is proposing to construct a
water well facility (including drilling the well, construction
of a block building to house engine and installation of
pumping equipment) at McFadden Avenue and Huntington Village
Lane on a .05 acre portion of McFadden Avenue right-of-way.
A MOTION 14AS MADE BY PORTER AND SECOND BY ROWE TO APPROVE A
WATER WELL FACILITY LOCATED AT MCFADDEN AVENUE AND HUNTINGTON
VILLAGE LANE BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Porter,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Schumacher
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
B. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS AND COMMISSION ITEMS:
None
C. ITEMS FOR PUBLIC HEARING
C -1 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 85-35 WITH SPECIAL PERMIT
REQUEST/CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 85-64/TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP
NO. 85-262/COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT NO. 85-17/NEGATIVE
DECLARATION NO. 85-43
Applicant: Coastal Properties Ltd.
This item was continued on September 4, 1985 at the request of the
applicant in order to allow additional time for the completion of
revised plans and for the submittal and public noticing of the
conditional exception and special permit requests that are necessary
for the remaining deviations from code requirements.
The applicant's request is to combine two, twenty-five foot wide
lots into one lot by lot consolidation and to construct a three unit
condominium project on the property. The zone district is Downtown
Specific Plan, District Two.
ENVIRONMENTAI, STATUS:
Pursuant to the environmental regulations in effect'at this time,
the Department of Development Services posted draft Negative
Declaration No. 85-43 for ten days, and no comments, either verbal
or written were received. The staff, in its initial study of the
project, has recommended that a negative declaration be issued.
Prior to any action on the proposed project, it is necessary for the
Planning Commission to review and act on Negative Declaration No.
85-43.
P.C. September 17, 1985 -2- (3375d)
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THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
Jack Wood, engineer for the project, spoke in support of the project
stating that he concurred with staff recommendation as long as the
two new conditions no. 8 & 9 were appealable.
There being no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Winchell expressed that she would not go along with a
project in this area that will reduce required guest parking,
concluding that she would be opposed to the conditional exception on
this project.
Commissioner Porter commented he agreed with Commissioner Winchell
adding that the applicant should apply architectural treatment to
all sides of the buildings. He also stated he did not like the flat
wall design. He requested that the applicant rework the exterior
elevations plans on the project.
Florence Webb of staff commented that staff has included
architectural design as a condition of approval.
Jack Wood agreed with the additional work on the architecture of the
building if if the approval could be handled by the staff instead of
coming back to the Planning Commission.
chairman Livengood stated that he supported the other commissioners
as far as their concerns regarding parking in that area.
Commissioner Rowe also concurred with Chairman Livengood.
Jack Wood commented that the tenants entertainment time should be in
the evening. Guest parking should not interfere with beach parking
Commissioner Winchell strongly expressed that she wanted on -site
parking for all the units.
Chairman Livengood requested stronger reinforcement from staff as to
the recommendation for approval on two off -site parking spaces.
Commissioner Porter asked staff if it was possible to accommodate
the parking on the site. Florence Webb answered that the applicant
felt it was very difficult to do so. Secretary Palin also added
that it would be extremely difficult looking at the lay -out. It
leaves minimal ground floor area to start with. It will be
difficult to get 8 parking spaces on this project.
Commissioner Erskine asked if the applicant choose to develop two
separate units per the Downtown Specific Plan what would the parking
be. Secretary Palin answered that the applicant would need two
fully enclosed garages.
Commissioner Mirjahangir asked staff if the
were tied to the bedrooms or to the number
of staff said they were tied to bedrooms.
number of parking spaces
of units. Florence Webb
P.C. September 17, 1985 -3-
(3375d )
Jack Wood suggested sub -standard tandem guest parking by putting one
parking space per unit behind the garage.
The Commission requested continuance to give the applicant time to
work with staff to meet the requirement of two on -site guest parking
spaces and review and incorporate the improved architectural design
into their plan.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY ERSKINE TO CONTINUE
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 85-35 WITH SPECIAL PERMIT
REQUEST/CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 85-64/TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO.
85-262/COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT NO. 85-17/NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO.
85-43 TO OCTOBER 1, 1985 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Porter, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Schumacher
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
C-2 SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO. 85-8
Applicant: Southland Signs
Special Sign Permit No. 85-8 was originally a request to construct a
20 foot high, 99 square foot internally freestanding sign located at
7011 Warner Avenue approximately 500 feet east of Coldenwest
Street. The proposed sign contained 28 tenant copy panels and was
to be located in a landscaped area. The retail center is governed
by Planned Sign Program No. 83-2 and only one, 25 foot high
freestanding sign is allowed along the Warner Avenue frontage.
The applicant initiated a special sign permit because the proposed
sign did not comply with the Huntington Beach Ordinance Code Article
976 Sign Code.
Special Sign Permit No. 85-8 was continued to the September 4, 1985
Planning Commission meeting and then to the September 17, 1985
Planning Commission meeting in order to allow the applicant time to
work out problems with the staff. The applicant is now proposing a
9 foot high, 48 foot sign.
ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS:
Pursuant to Section 15311, Class 11(a) of the California
Environmental Quality Act Law and Guidelines 1984, the proposed
project is categorically exempt.
Florence Webb of staff pointed out to the Commission that upon
physical inspection of the site, all businesses are visible from I
Warner Ave.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
P.C. September 17, 1985 -4- (3375d)
Gregg Ptacek, representing Southland Signs, spoke in support of the
project stressing the fact that they had proposed revisions and a
modified sign to the Commission.
There being no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Chairman Livengood commented that if the Commission does approve
this request the Commission should express that tenant exposure on
the sign be limited to those having no street exposure so as to
preclude tenants having street exposure from seeking panels on the
new ground sign.
Commissioner Erskine questioned staff on the banner signs at the
site. Florence Webb of staff stated that these signs are illegal.
Commissioner Erskine said he would be supporting staff's
recommendation of denial.
Commissioner Porter requested a new finding No. 1 be added to the
denial recommendation to reflect the Redevelopment Agency's
opposition to the applicants request being inconsistent with Planned
Sign Program No. 83-2 and to place proposed findings in a new order.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY PORTER AND SECOND BY ERSKINE TO DENY SPECIAL
SIGN PERMIT NO'. 8�-8'WITH FINDINGS BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Porter, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Schumacher
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
FINDINGS FOR DENIAL
1. The Redevelopment Agency opposed the applicants request
because it will be inconsistent with the Planned Sign Program
No. 83-2 for freestanding signs which should be reserved for
major tenants only. Since the new center does not contain any
major tenants an additional freestanding sign should not be
allowed. If the new center had a different name or other
identity, that may be reason for a separate freestanding sign,
but in no case should individual tenants be identified on such
a sign. The location of, and proximity to an arterial highway
allows for sufficient visibility of tenant wall sign
identification.
2. The proposed freestanding sign will not be in keeping with the
character of the shopping center or the neighborhood and does
not comply with approved Planned Sign Program No. 83-21.
3. The proposed freestanding sign will'adversely"affect other
signs in the area.
4. The proposed freestanding sign will be detrimental to property
located in the vicinity.
P.C. September 17, 1985 -5- (3375d)
5. The proposed freestanding sign may obstruct the vision of
vehicular and pedestrian traffic.
C-3 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 85-8/TENTATIVE TRACT 11140
Applicant: Don Hartfelder
The Planning Commission approved Tentative Tract No. 11140 and
Conditional Use Permit No. 80-20 on the subject property on October
7, 1980. Tentative Tract No. 11140 was a request to subdivide the
subject property into a one lot subdivision. Conditional Use Permit
No. 80-20 was a request to permit the construction of eight
residential condominium units. The proposed layout indicated eight
units contained in two buildings located towards the front of the
site with semi -subterranean garages underneath each unit. The
required open space was located at the rear of the site. The
project was never built and both approvals received extensions of
time first to April 1983 and then to April 1984. The applicant
redesigned the site plan for the eight units and submitted it under
a new conditional use permit application No. 83-14.
On August 2, 1983, the Planning Commission approved Conditional Use
Permit No. 83-14, a request to permit the construction of an 8 unit
condominium complex. The two year time limit on the approval of
this project has since expired because actual construction has not
commenced.
The staff has recently learned through a detailed analysis of the
site plan that the actual lot size, after full street dedication, is
20 feet shorter in length. Thus, the allowed density is reduced to
7 units from the original approval. The applicant is now seeking a
density bonus for one -unit to allow for the construction of an 8
unit development.
On September 4, 1985, the subject
next regular Planning Commission
affirmative votes for approval.
ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS:
requests were continued to the
meeting due to a lack of 4
Negative Declaration No. 80-41 was approved by the Planning
Commission on October 7, 1980 for an eight -unit condominium
development on the subject property. Staff has determined that no
additional environmental assessment is necessary.
Commissioner Porter requested that this item once again be continued
so he could review the tapes from the last meeting to gain further
insight of this request.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY ERSKINE TO CONTINUE
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 85-8/TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 11140 TO THE
OCTOBER 1, 1985 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 9:00 P.M. BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
P.C. September 17, 1985 -6- (3375d)
Gregg Ptacek, representing Southland Signs, p ke in syppo t of the
project stress .,ng (�o,��
There being no further testimonhe public hearing was closed.
Chairman Livengood commented that if the Commission does approve
this request the Commission should ex S.
qp '� Mp,
on this sign"t re o �thstreet'-seek'7 o e'ound sign.
Commissioner Erskine questioned staff on the banner signs at the
site. Florence Webb of staff stated that these signs are illegal.
Commissioner Erskine said he would be supporting staff's
recommendation of denial.
Commissioner Porter requested a new finding No. 1 be added to the
denial recommendation to reflect the Redevelopment Agency's
opposition to the applicants request being inconsistent with Planned
Sign Program No. 83-2 and to place proposed findings in a new order.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY PORTER AND SECOND BY ERSKINE TO DENY SPECIAL
SIGN PERMIT NO. 85-8 WITH FINDINGS BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Porter, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Schumacher
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
FINDINGS FOR DENIAL
1. The Redevelopment Agency opposed the applicants request
because it will be inconsistent with the Planned Sign Program
No. 83-2 for freestanding signs which should be reserved for
major tenants only. Since the new center does not contain any
major tenants an additional freestanding sign should not be
allowed. If the new center had a different name or other
identity, that may be reason for a separate freestanding sign,
but in no case should individual tenants be identified on such
a sign. The location of, and proximity to an arterial highway
allows for sufficient visibility of tenant wall sign
identification.
2: The proposed freestanding sign will not be in keeping with the
character of the shopping center or the neighborhood and does
not comply with approved Planned Sign Program No. 83-21.
3. The proposed freestanding sign will adversely affect other
signs in the area.
4. The proposed freestanding sign will be detrimental to property
located in the vicinity.
P.C. September 17, 1985 -5- (3375d)
5. The proposed freestanding sign may obstruct the vision of
vehicular and pedestrian traffic.
C-3 CONDITIONAL USF PERMIT NO. 85-8/TENTATIVE TRACT 11140
Applicant: Don Hartfelder
The Planning Commission approved Tentative Tract No. 11140 and
Conditional Use Permit No. 80-20 on the subject property on October
7, 1980. Tentative Tract No. 11140 was a request to subdivide the
subject property into a one lot subdivision. Conditional Use Permit
No. 80-20 was a request to permit the construction of eight
residential condominium units. The proposed layout indicated eight
units contained in two buildings located towards the front of the
site with semi -subterranean garages underneath each unit. The
required open space was located at the rear of the site. The
project was never built and both approvals received extensions of
time first to April 1983 and then to April 1984. The applicant
redesigned the site plan for the eight units and submitted it under
a new conditional use permit application No. 83-14.
On August 2, 1983, the Planning Commission approved Conditional Use
Permit No. 83-14, a request to permit the construction of an 8 unit
condominium complex. The two year time limit on the approval of
this project has since expired because actual construction has not
commenced.
The staff has recently learned through a detailed analysis of the
site plan that the actual lot size, after full street dedication, is
20 feet shorter in length. Thus, the allowed density is reduced to
7 units from the original approval. The applicant is now seeking a
density bonus for one -unit to allow for the construction of an 8
unit development.
On September 4, 1985, the subject requests were continued to the
next regular Planning Commission meeting due to a lack of 4
affirmative votes for approval.
ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS:
Negative Declaration No. 80-41 was approved by the Planning
Commission on October 7, 1980 for an eight -unit condominium
development on the subject property. Staff has determined that no
additional environmental assessment is necessary.
Commissioner Porter requested that this item once again, be continued
so he could review the tapes from the last meeting to gain further
insight of this request.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY ERSKINE TO CONTINUE
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 85-8/TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 11140 TO THE
OCTOBER 1, 1985 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 9:00 P.M. BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
P.C. September 17, 1985 -6- (3375d)
Gregg Ptacek, representing Southland Signs, spoke in support of the
project stressing the fact that they had proposed revisions and a
modified sign to the Commission.
There being no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Chairman Livengood commented that if the Commission does approve
this request the Commission should express that tenant exposure on
the sign-be-li-mited--to those having ,no street exposure so -as -to
preclude tenants having street exposure from seeking panels.on the
new ground sign. I -
Commissioner -.Erskine questioned -staff, on -the banner signs.at the
site. Florence Webb of staff stated that these signs are illegal.
Commissioner Erskine said he would be -supporting staff's
recommendation of --denial. -
Commissioner Porter requested a new finding No. 1 be added to the
denial recommendation to reflect the Redevelopment Agency's
opposition to the applicants request being inconsistent with Planned
Sign Program No. 83-2 and to place proposed findings in a new order.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY PORTER AND SECOND BY ERSKINE TO DENY SPECIAL
SIGN PERMIT NO. 85-8 WITH FINDINGS BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: `
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Porter, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Schumacher
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
FINDINGS FOR DENIAL
1. The Redevelopment Agency opposed the applicants request
because it will be inconsistent with the Planned Sign Program
No. 83-2 for freestanding signs which should be reserved,for
major tenants only. Since the new center does not contain any
major tenants an additional freestanding sign should not be
allowed. If the new center had a different name or other
-identity,.that may be reason for a separate freestanding sign,
but in no case should individual tenants be identified on such
a sign. The location of, and proximity to an arterial highway
allows for sufficient visibility of tenant wall sign_
identification.
2. The proposed freestanding sign will not be in keeping with the
character of the shopping center or the neighborhood and does
not comply with approved Planned Sign Program No. 83-21.
3. The proposed freestanding sign will adversely affect other
signs in the area.
4. The proposed freestanding sign will be detrimental to property
located in the vicinity.
P.C. September 17, 1985 -5- (3375d)
5. The proposed freestanding sign may obstruct the vision of
vehicular and pedestrian tr-affic.
C-3 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 85-8/TENTATIVE TRACT 11140
Applicant: Don Hartfelder,
The Planning Commission approved -Tentative -Tract No. 1114-0,and
Conditional Use Permit No. 80-20 on the subject property on October
7, 1980. Tentative Tract No. 11140 was a request to subdivide the
subject property into a one lot subdivision. Conditional Use Permit
No. 80-20 was a request to permit the construction of eight
residential condominium units. The proposed layout indicated eight
units contained in two buildings located towards the front of the
site with semi -subterranean garages underneath each unit. The
required open space was located at the rear of the site. The
project was never built and both approvals received extensions of
time first to April 1983 and then to April 1984. The appl-i.cant
redesigned the site plan for the eight units and submitted it under
a new conditional• use permit application -No. 83-14.
On August 2, 1983, the Planning Commission approved Conditional Use
Permit No. 83-14, a request to permit the construction of an 8 unit
condominium complex. The two year time limit on the approval of
this project has since expired because actual construction has not
commenced. • I • -
The staff has recently learned through a,detailed analysis of the
site plan that the actual lot size, after full street dedication, is
20 feet shorter in length. Thus, the allowed density is reduced to
7 units from the original approval. The applicant is now seeking a
density bonus for one -unit to allow for the construction of an 8
unit development.
On September 4, 1985, the subject requests were continued -to -the
next regular Planning Commission meeting due to a lack of 4
affirmative votes for approval.
ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS:
Negative Declaration No. 80-41 was approved by the Planning
Commission on October 7, 1980 for an eight -unit condominium
development on the subject property. Staff has determined that no
additi,onal.environmental assessment is necessary.
Commissioner Porter requested that this item once again be continued
so he could review the tapes from the last meeting to gain further
insight of this request.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY ERSKINE TO CONTINUE
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 85-8/TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 11140 TO THE
OCTOBER 11 1985 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 9:00 P.M. BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:-
P.C. September 17, 1985 -6- (3375d)-
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AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Porter
NOES: None
ABSENT: Schumacher
ABSTAIN: Mirjahangir
MOTION PASSED
C-4 CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 85-47/NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 85-11
Applicant: John F. Swint
The applicant is proposing to construct
manager's apartment on a 50 by 286 foot
the west side of Beach Boulevard between
Avenues. The applicant is requesting a
allow a motel on a 50 foot wide lot, to
required 5 foot side yard setbacks, and
landscaping.
ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS:
a 19 unit motel with a
lot in the C4 district on
Ellis and Garfield
conditional exception to
allow encroachment into the
for a reduced amount of
Pursuant to the environmental regulations in effect at this time the
Department of Development Services posted draft Negative Declaration
No. 85-11 for ten days, and no comments, either verbal or written
were received. The staff, in its initial study of the project, has
recommended that a negative declaration be issued. Prior to any
action on Conditional Exception No. 85-47, it is necessary for the
Planning Commission to review and act on Negative Declaration No.
85-11.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED:
Dr. James Sham, owner of the adjacent dental building, spoke in
opposition to the project stating that the lot was too narrow and
added that the proposed parking was facing his parking. He felt he
would lose control of his parking area and would be impacted by
motel patrons parking.
Mr. Patel spoke in support of the project stating that he has enough
parking for his guests.
Commissioner Erskine Commented that there seemed to be severe
circulation problems on the site. Florence Webb of staff said that
Public Works does want a turn around on the subject site.
Commissioner Porter stated that the frontage and interior side yard
involved too much reduction in width. He expressed that the
project is an inappropriate use for the property.
Chairman Livengood expressed that the development is to large a
project for the size of the parcel.
A request for continuance
meeting was received from
continuance, in order for
driveway easement with the
of this item to the October 15, 1985
the applicant. The staff concurs with the
the applicant to work out a reciprocal
owner of the property to the north.
P.C. September 17, 1985
-7-
(3375d)
A MOTION WAS MADE BY ERSKINE AND SECOND BY PORTER TO CONTINUE
CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 84-47/NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 85-11 TO
THE OCTOBER 15, 1985 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Porter, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Schumacher
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
C-5 USE PERMIT NO. 85-60/CONDITIONAL FXCEPTION
Applicant: Lincoln Properties
Use Permit No. 85-60/Conditional Exception No. 85-63 is a request to
permit the development of a 102-unit apartment complex on the north
side of Warner Avenue between Lynn and Sims Streets. The project
was previously approved as a 102-unit apartment project in March,
1985 (Conditional Use Permit No. 85-13). Prior to that (January
1984), the Planning Commission approved a 102-unit condominium
project for the site.
The proposal presently under consideration is substantially the same
project as the prior approvals. However, the applicant is seeking
to convert 24 one -bedroom with den units to two -bedroom units. In
addition, there will be setback encroachments for balconies/storage
areas and deviations from the height limit.
ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS:
In January 1984, the Planning Commission adopted negative
Declaration No. 83-47 which assessed the environmental effects of a
111-unit condominium project (Conditional Use Permit No. 83-32,
Tentative Tract 12084). Staff's analysis indicates that a change
from ownership to rental units will not alter the status of Negative
Declaration No. 83-47. Therefore, no further environmental analysis
is warranted at this time.
THE PUBLIC HFARING WAS OPENED
Mr. Morningstar, adjacent property owner north of the proposed site,
submitted a letter to the Commission in opposition to height density
and set back variances stating that the project will not conform to
the neighborhood.
Dan Murphy, representing Lincoln Properties, presented an
introduction to the project and the background of Lincoln Properties.
Ernie Vasquez, architect for the development, spoke in support of
the project. He described the requested variances in detail and
explained the differences in building height between the previously
approved projects and the proposed project.
P.C. September 17, 1985 -8- (3375d)
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Dick Harlow, representing Lincoln Properties, spoke in support of
the project and discussed the landscaping and affordable housing
requirements.
There being no further testimony, the Public Hearing was closed.
Chairman Livengood asked how the overall square footage compared
with the previously approved project and the project presently
proposed. Howard Zelefsky of staff stated that it was the same.
Commissioner Erskine asked if the applicant had submitted a
landscape plan. The applicant replied that they submitted a
conceptual plan.
The Commission and staff discussed the height measurement of the
structures.. Commissioner Winchell stated that staff should make
the point of measurememt more clear and added she would not vote for
a height of 45 feet adjacent to a 35 foot in height structure.
The Commission asked the Fire Department for their opinion of the
plan. Tom Poe of the Fire Department staff said it seems to be all
right as long as the project has automatic sprinklers.
Commissioner Erskine felt that the landscaping plan shown is not
consistent with the wording in condition no. 18(c) requesting that
special plant materials be included in the condition.
Commissioner Rowe asked if the slab and foundation could hold a
three story building. Ernie Vasquez, architect, said that the slab
is designed for a three story building.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY ERSKINE AND SECOND BY PORTER TO APPROVE USE
PERMIT NO. 85-60/CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 85-63 WITH FINDINGS AND
CONDITIONS BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Erskine, Porter
NOES: Rowe, Winchell,
ABSENT: Schumacher
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION FAILED
Livengood, Mirjahangir
Chairman Livengood recommended that this item be continued and
appointed Commissioner Rowe and Commissioner Porter to work with the
applicant and staff to come up with a modified plan to address the
concerns of the Commission.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY ERSKINE AND SECOND BY LIVENGOOD TO CONTINUE USE
PERMIT NO. 85-60/CONDITIONAL FXCEPTION NO. 85-63 TO THE OCTOBER 11
1985 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Livengood, Erskine, Porter, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Schumacher
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
P.C. September 17, 1985 -9-
(3375d)
D. ITEMS NOT FOR PUBLIC HEARING:
None
E. DISCUSSION ITEMS:
E-1 Staff presentation and discussion of DOWNTOWN PARKING, TRANSIT
AND FINANCE STUDY. (Please bring document with you.
Gail O'Brien of the Planning Staff gave the presentation on
the Downtown Parking, Transit and Finance Study. The Planning
Commission discussed this item and requested that the
Commission's comments be submitted to City Council at an
appropriate time.
E-2 Discussion of Economic Analysis Disposition and Development
Agreement - Main -Pier Mixed Use Project and Disposition and
Development greemen is was handed out at the as
meeting, please ring them with you.)
To be continued to October 1, 1985.
F.
PENDING ITEMS:
Commissioner Porter requested staff to investigate the corner
of Magnolia and Warner Avenues where there is a considerable
amount of grading being done and expressed his concern about
the dust control. He continued to comment on the
signalization at Magnolia and Adams stating that its a very
good installation.
Commissioner Porter asked staff to investigate the driveway
located in the vacant Safeway Store building requesting that
something be done with it. He also informed staff that the
Southwest corner of Talbert and Beach was being used as a
parking lot for moving vans.
Commissioner Winchell requested staff to research Section
9530.16 of the Zoning code in regards to auto use dismantling
as to the reason "and/or" was dropped from "and/or storage
yard." She continued to request research on required height
restrictions from other cities. Secretary Palin stated that
most cities use UBC.
Commissioner Mirjahangir requested staff to investigate the
inconsistencies with Article 932 and the Downtown Specific
Plan regarding Common Open Space and parking tied to bedrooms.
PLANNING COMMISSION ITEMS:
Commissioner Erskine suggested that whenever the Commission is
dealing with sensitive issues, staff should send copies of the
report to special interest groups in order to elicit their
input into the decision making process. He stated that this
procedure is being implemented very successfully by Orange
County EMA.
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A MOTION WAS MADE BY FRSKINE AND SECOND BY LIVENGOOD TO SEND
COPIES OF ANY CHANGES TO THE HOUSING POLICY TO THE BUILDING
INDUSTRY AND SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS AFFECTED BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
AYES:
Rowe, Winchell,
Mirjahangir
NOES:
None
ABSENT:
Schumacher
ABSTAIN:
None
MOTION PASSED
Livengood, Erskine, Porter,
H. DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ITEMS:
Commissioner Livengood informed the Commission and staff that
he would be late to the October 1, 1985 Planning Commission
Meeting. He also scheduled a 6:30 October 15, 1985 Planning
Commission study session. The purpose of the study session
will be for a slide presentation by Orange County EMA staff on
the flood control channels in the county.
I. ADJOURNMENT:
The Planning Commission adjourned at 11:00 p.m. to the next
regular scheduled meeting of October 1, 1985.
Tom Live , C rm n
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