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MINUTES
HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
Council Chambers - Civic Center
2000 Main Street
Huntington Beach, California
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 19, 1985 - 7:00 P.M.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL:
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Rowe, Winchell, Schmacher, Livengood (left
at p.m.), Ers ine (left at 9:30 p.m.), Porter, Mirjahangir
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: None
A. CONSENT CALENDAR:
NONE
B. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS AND COMMISSION ITEMS
NONE
C. PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS C-1 THORUGH C-16 WERE HEARD BY THE PLANNING
COMMISSION IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER: C-31 C-5, C-8, C-1, C-15, C-2,
C-4, C-7, C-6, C-9, C-10, C-11, C-12, C-13, C-14, C-16.
C-1 CODE AMENDMENT NO. 84-11 - SIGN CODE
Applicant: City of Huntington Beach
Staff recommended that the Planning Commission schedule a workshop
on the sign code for all interested parties on a Tuesday evening not
scheduled for a Planning Commission meeting.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
Spence Sheldon of the Huntington Beach Chamber of Commerce stated he
would like to be involved in the special meeting regarding input for
the sign code. He stated that he concurred with staff
recommendations.
There being no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Glen Godfrey of staff recommended to continue this item to January
7, 1986 with a special meeting on December 10, 1985 to get comments
from the commission.
The Commission discussed comments by each Commissioner and welcomed
any interested parties to the study session scheduled for December
10, 1985 for imput.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY MIRJAHANGIR TO CONTINUE
THIS CODE AMENDMENT NO. 84-11 - SIGN CODE TO JANUARY 7, 1985 AND
SCHEDULE A STUDY SESSION FOR DECEMBER 10, 1985 BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Schumacher, Livengood, Erskine, Porter,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
C-2 SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO. 85-9
Applicant: Design 2 Signmakers
On November 5, 1985, the Planning Commission voted to continue
Special Sign Permit No. 85-9. Staff was instructed to meet with the
applicant and work on the sign proposal. Staff met with the
applicant on November 15, 1985, and the results of the meeting are
discussed in Section 9.0 of this report.
ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS:
The proposed project is exempt pursuant to Class 11(a) Section 15311
from the provisions of the California Environmental Quality Act.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
John Campbell, owner and applicant for Campbell Nissan, stated he
concurred with staff recommendations and asked the Planning
Commission for approval of the sign change.
Chairman Livengood stated that he took a survey and counted 14 signs
on the property asking the applicant when the new signs go up will
those 14 signs be taken down. John Campbell stated yes.
There being no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Chairman Livengood stated he would support this if the other 14
signs came down adding that this would clear up the site.
Commissioner Porter stated he was not in favor of another
free-standing structure adding he would be in favor of a monument
sign saying Campbell as long as it goes on the building in some way.
Commissioner Rowe stated he agreed with Commissioner Porter. He
asked how staff could guarantee the removal of the 14 signs.
Florence Webb of staff said it was a condition of approval.
Commissioner Winchell said she would allow one sign at 20 feet in
height. John Campbell stated that this was the height of the light
standard and it would be cluttered because the lights would be the
same height as the sign adding the sign would not be visible.
P.C. November 19, 1985 -2- (3885d)
Commissioner Rowe stated he did not want any more clutter on Beach
Blvd. and could not see why the Campbell sign was needed. John
Campbell stated that the need for the sign is because Nissan is a
franchise and Campbell is the identification name. Nissan will not
accept another name on their ground sign.
Chairman Livengood stated that that tie would support the 25 foot
sign, but the other Commissioners agreed on a 20 foot sign which is
staff's alternative recommendation.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY PORTER AND SECOND BY WINCHELL TO APPROVE
SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO. 85-9 WITH MODIFIED FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS
BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Schumacher, Erskine, Porter, Mirjahangir
NOES: Livengood
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL:
1.
The proposed
combination
of
signs would not adversely affect
other signs
in the area.
2.
The proposed
combination
of
signs would not be detrimental to
property located in the
vicinity.
3.
The proposed
combination
of
signs will be in keeping with the
character of
the commercial
area.
4. The proposed combination of signs will not obstruct the vision
of vehicular or pedestrian traffic. -
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
1. A revised site plan and elevation.. shall be submitted
indicating the size and location of signs as required by the
Planning Commission. The plans are to be subject to review
and approved by the Director of Development Services.
2. The used car sign shall be a monument sign, 58 sq.ft. The
freestanding Nissan Sign shall be 20 ft in height and 92
sq.ft. in area. The dealer's name identification has the
option of a 36 sq. ft. monument sign or a wall sign pursuant
to code.' A sign indicating entrance into the service area
shall be 3 ft. in height and 3 sq. ft. of area.
3. The proposed combination of signs shall be subject to the
review and approval of the Director of Development Services.
4.
All
illegal
banners and
flags shall be removed.
5.
The
existing
roof sign
shall be removed.
P.C. November 19, 1985 -3- (3885d)
6. Additional landscaping shall be provided along Beach Boulevard
for the used car lot.
7. All non -.conforming and illegal signs on the site shall be
removed
C-3 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 84-30'
Applicant: Arco Petroleum Products
At the November 5, 1985 Planning Commission meeting, the request for
extension of time was continued to be heard as a public hearing
item. Staff contacted representatives of the applicant and they
have indicated that Conditional Use Permit No. 85-14, a request to
construct a new convenience market with_ gasoline sales, will be
withdrawn and Conditional Use Permit No., 84" 30, a convenience market
conversion, will be implemented. During -the -public --hearing for the
zone change to C4-SS, the concerns of the adjacent property owner
addressed the proposed new construction (tonditio'nal Use Permit No.
85-14) and were not raised during the public hearings for
Conditional Use Permit No.''84-30, conversion of the e'xisti'ng
facility. The 'zone change*to C4-,SS,:effective November 21, 1985, is
no longer required to convert the existing service station to a
convenience market combined with gasoline sales.
During the past year, the City Council and Planning Commission have
expressed concern with the decline of service stations and
conversions to self-service and/or convenience markets. Staff has
been directed to evaluate convenience markets in relationship to
commercial development standards, i.e. setbacks, parking, sight
angle visibility., The proposed conversion to convenience market
with gasoline sales, will.be incompatible-with,this new direction.
Glen Godfrey stated that the applicant's Attorney requested that
this item-be-con,t,inued to. ,the. next ,regular meeting ,of December 3,
1985. ;
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
There being no testimony, the public hearing was closed.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY,r,ERSKINE..AND -,SECOND BY MIRJAHANGIR. TO ,CONTINUE
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 84-30 TO THE DECEMBER 3, 1985 PLANNING
COMMISSION MEET ING,BY_THE.FO-LLOWING,VOTE:
AYES:, Rowe,; .Winchell.,, Schumacher, Li,vengood,, Erskine,, Porter,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None _
ABSENT: None-. _
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
P.C. November 19,'1985
- 4 ...
`(3885d)
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C-4 CODE AMENDMENT NO. 85-17
Applicant: City of Huntington Beach
The Planning Commission continued this item from the meeting of
November 5, 1985, in order to receive clarification regarding the
way site coverage is calculated and how balconies are considered.
Balconies are included as part of the site coverage figure. Any
building feature that extends more than thirty inches from the
building surface is included as site coverage.
The reason that Code Amendment No. 85-17 states that both balconies
and decks can be used for the additional open space that is required
in exchange for additional site coverage is to allow design
flexibility; in that, the balconies themselves will count towards
site coverage, it is likely that decks will be used more often to
satisfy the open space requirement. To restrict the additional open
space to just decks, though, would mean that any square footage that
may be included in balconies would not be able to be counted towards
open space requirements. This provision would be unnecessarily
restrictive.
Due to the more restrictive definition of site coverage incorporated
in the Oldtown/Townlot code amendment (Ordinance 2780), it would be
appropriate to allow an additional 5 percent site coverage, for a
maximum of 55 percent for 2 story dwellings. The additional site
coverage over 50 percent would have to be offset by providing an
equal amount of additional open space in the form of balconies or
decks. A deed restriction would be required to guarantee that the
structure would remain a maximum of two stories. The intent of the
code amendment is to permit some additional ground floor square
footage for developers who do not choose to build a three story
structure. This change will provide some incentive for the
construction of two story structures in the Oldtown and Townlot
areas.
ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS:
The proposed project is categorically exempt from the provision of
the California Environmental Quality Act.
The Commissioner requested that any reference to requiring a deed
restriction deleted from the ordinance.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
There being no testimony, the public hearing was closed.
The Planning Commission requested that this item be continued in
order to allow the ordinance to be clarified; in that, it limits the
additional site coverage over 50% to dwelling units with a maximum
of 2-stories.
P.C. November 19, 1985 -5- (3885d)
A MOTION WAS MADE BY ERSKINE AND SECOND BY PORTER TO CONTINUE CODE
AMENDMENT NO. 85-17 TO THE DECEMBER 3, 1985 PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Schumacher, Erskine, Porter, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Livengood
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
C-5 CODE AMENDMENT NO. 85-21
Applicant: City of Huntington Beach
At the November 5, 1985 meeting, the Planning Commission continued
Code Amendment No. 85-21 and requested a copy of the Vesting
Tentative Map Model Ordinance as prepared by Daniel J. Curtin, Jr.
and a legislative draft of the City's proposed Ordinance.
A procedure for filing and processing of vesting tentative maps has
been established under Article 935.5. It describes authority
granted by the California Subdivision Map Act, filing procedures,
department review, information required on the map, rights conferred
by a vesting tentative map, and consistency with zoning and general
plan.
Vesting tentative maps are the wave of the future. They represent a
development agreement between the developer/subdivider and the City
which assures the developer a vested right to proceed with
development in compliance with the vesting tentative map. The
applicability of vesting tentative maps may be extended to
non-residential developments as early as January 1, 1988 (Assembly
Bill 2143 recently passed by the Legislature).
ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS:
Pursuant to the environmental regulations in effect at this time,
the Department of Development Services posted draft Negative
Declaration No. 85-66 for ten days, and no comments, either verbal
or written were received. The staff, in its initial study of the
project, has recommended that a negative declaration be issued prior
to any action on Code Amendment No. 85-21, it is necessary for the
Planning Commission to review and act on Negative Declaration NO.
85-66.
Florence Webb of staff stated that continuance to December 3, 1985
was being recommended because there is no ordinance available yet.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
There being no testimony, the public hearing was closed.
P.C. November 19, 1985 -6- (3885d)
A MOTION WAS MADE BY•MIRJAHANGIR AND SECOND•BY SCHUMACHER TO
CONTINUE CODE -AMENDMENT NO. 85-21 TO DECEMBER 3, 1985 PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETING BY THE FOLLOWING -VOTE:
AYES: Rowe;, .Wirzche,ll, . Schumacher;• Livengood� Erskine, -Porter,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
C-6 ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW NO._85-19-APPEAL
Applicant: Tait & Associates
The applicant is. appealing two conditions of approval imposed by the
Board of Zoning Adjustments on a request to demolish and rebuild a
service station w.ith three service bays. The Board of Zoning
Adjustments required (1) closure of the southernmost driveway on
Magnolia and additionallandscapinginstalled and (2) creation of
two reciprocal _driveways, -north and east-, with the adjoining
shopping center.
ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS:
Negative Declaration No. 85-21 was adopted by the Board of Zoning
Adjustments on October 23.,,-1985. No additional review or action is
required.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
Mr. Ludwig Sme,ets, representing Tait & Associates, reviewed his
request with,the Planning Commission'.and stated that the applicant
was dropping the -appeal -,of condition 5a regarding the requirement
for five foot wide planters at the Northwest corner of the site and
along both sides -of the -four spaces fronting -Adams Avenue.
There being no further testimony; the public -hearing -was closed.
The Commission.xeviewed the request and supported the Board of
Zoning Adjustments•approval.based on:findings and conditions
originally imposed.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY WINCHELL AND SECOND BY PORTER TO UPHOLD THE
BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENTS APPROVAL OF ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW NO.
85-19 WITH CONDITIONS IMPOSED -AND DENY THE APPLICANTS APPEAL BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell,,Schumacher, Porter,•Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Livengood, Erskine
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
P.C. November 19, 1985 -7- (3885d)
C-7 .APPEAL OF'BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENT'S DENIAL'OF COASTAL
DEVELOPMBNT..PERMI.T NO. 85-28
Applicant: Ron Montgomery
Coastal.Development-Permit,No.:85-28,is.a request.to allow a 2408
sq. ft. addition to an existing residence. Because the proposed
project is creating a third floor, a coastal development permit is
required (989.5.3.b3)
On October 16, 1985, the Board of Zoning Adjustments denied Coastal
Development Permit No. 85-28 and Use Permit No. 85-65, a request to
construct 3,000 sq. ft. of building area to an existing
single-family residence with non -conforming -setback for -front entry
garage (20 feet in lieu of 221). Subsequently, the applicant
appealed the denial and revised the site -plan by reducing the
addition from 3,000 to 2,408,and adjusting the addition setback so
as to comply with the,code thereby eliminating the need for a use
permit.
ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS:
The proposed project is exempt Class 1 Section 15301 from the
provisions of the California Environmental Quality Act.
COASTAL STATUS:
The subject property is in the Coastal Zone and subject to the
provisions of Article 989.5, Coastal Development Permit. Prior to
the issuance of any building permits for a third floor addition to a
development abutting the harbor,'a coastal development permit must
first be approved.=In-approving Coastal Development Permit No.
85-65, the Planning Commission must find that the project is in
conformance with the Certified'Local Coastal Plan.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
Mike Thomas, neighbor, spoke in opposition to the proposal.
William T. Dalessi, neighbor,,spoke in opposition to the proposal.
Rick Macklin, neighbor and newest member -of Skarkbay Homeowners
Association spoke,in opposition to the proposal.
Mr. Fraide, project archetect, stated that there are already homes
with three stories in the neighborhood and added that he felt there
was no legal cause to deny'a third story to this resident.
There being no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Florenece Webb of staff also read into the minutes names of
correspondence in opposition to the Coastal Development. These
names have been placed into the file.
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P.C. November 19, 1985 -8- (3885d)
Commissioner Rowe stated that he was opposed to this request and
staffs recommendation.
Commissioner Schumacher asked staff if a coastal development permit
can be denied if it is in conformance with the coastal plan.
Florence Webb of staff said yes, but the Commission must have
findings for denial.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY WINCHELL AND SECOND BY PORTER TO UPHOLD THE
BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENTS DENIAL OF COASTAL DEVELOPMENT PERMIT NO.
85-28 WITH FINDINGS IMPOSED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Schumacher, Porter
NOES: Mirjahangir
ABSENT: Livengood, Erskine
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
FINDINGS FOR DENIAL
1. The revised single-family residence addition does not conform
with the plans, policies, requirements and standards of the
Coastal Element of the General Plan. The residence is within
an existing subdivision of single-family residence.
2. The three-story residence is inconsistent with other
developments in the area. The majority of existing residences
are two stories and the addition of a three story dwelling
will change the character of the neighborhood.
3. The elimination of view opportunities for existing residences
is not consistent with coastal element requirements.
4. The purpose of low density residential is to establish land
use that provides the greatest degree of light, air
ventilation and open space on each lot and this proposal will
preclude that.
C-8 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 85-57/CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 85-8
Applicant: Church of Religious Science
In February 1983 the Planning Commission approved the establishment
of a church facility within Seacliff Shopping Center (Conditional
Use Permit No. 83-2). The church facility, including a book store,
is approximately 7,660 square feet with a congregation of
approximately 3,000 people. The church is primarily utilized on
Sundays with three morning services. These services are held at
approximately 8:00, 9:45, and 11:30 A.M.
ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS:
Pursuant to Section 15301 Class 1 of the California Environmental
Quality Act the subject request is categorically exempt.
P.C. November 19, 1985 -9- (3885d)
The applicant presented a letter requesting extended time of the
application.
Florence Webb of staff stated she will concur with the applicants
request for extension to review the proposal for some possibility of
compromise.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
Warren Lorti stated he requested continuance due to the fact that
the staff report did not come to him in time to review the
alternatives. He asked for an extension of time to get with staff
and explore the alternatives. ,
Chairman Livengood asked if continuance to December 17, 1985 would
be enough time.
Warren Lorti said yes.
Commissioner Schumacher requested that staff state what the parking
ration presently is in the center in the next staff report so the
Commission is aware of what they are working with.
There being no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Staff made the Commission aware of a letter from the property owner
in support of the expansion of this facility, adding there was a
letter from other proprietors supporting the proposal.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY SCHUMACHER AND SECOND BY ROWE TO CONTINUE
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 85-57/CONDITIONAL EXCEPTION NO. 85-85 TO
THE DECEMBER 17, 1985 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Schumacher, Livengood, Erskine, Porter,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
C-9 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 85-59
Applicant: Lillian.Wellman ,
Conditional Use Permit,No. 85-59 is a request to expand an existing
day care home from six to twelve children in a single family
dwelling.
ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS:
The proposed project is exempt pursuant to Section 15301 from the
provisions of the California Environmental Quality Act.
P.C. November,19, 1985 -10- (3885d)
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
Mrs. Wellman, applicant, informed the Commission she has had the
day-care for 6 years, adding that the infant children are getting
older and going to school. The parents of these children are having
more children.
Commissioner Porter asked Mrs. Wellman if she was able to take care
of the insurance.
Mrs. Wellman stated yes.
Commissioner Rowe asked the applicant since she was increasing the
number of children will there be more children playing outside.
Mr. Wellman responded that her children were small and she did not
allow them outside.
There being no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY PORTER AND SECOND BY WINCHELL TO APPROVE
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 85-59 WITH MODIFIED FINDINGS AND
CONDITIONS BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Schumacher, Porter, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Livengood, Erskine
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL:
1. The proposed day care facility will not have a detrimental effect
upon the general health, welfare, safety and convenience of
persons residing or working in the neighborhood and is not
detrimental to the value of the property and improvements in the
neighborhood.
2. The access to the day care facility will not cause undue traffic
problems.
3. The proposed day care facility is compatible with existing uses in
the neighborhood and is reflected by a petition submitted by the
applicant indicating neighbors signatures in favor of expansion of
the day-care home.
4. The proposed day care facility is consistent with the goals and
objectives of the General Plan and will substantially comply with
the provisions of Article 933 of the Huntington Beach Ordinance
Code.
P.C. November 19, 1985 -11- (3885d)
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL:
1. The site plan dated October 17, 1985 shall be the approved layout.
2. The applicant shall file with the Department of Development
Services a copy of the Orange County license which permits care of
six to twelve children.
3. The day care facility shall operate between the hours of 7:00 AM
and 6:30 PM, Monday through Friday.
4. The Planning Commission reserves the right to review/revoke this
conditional use permit approval in the event of any violations of
the terms of this approval, or violation of the applicable zoning
laws, or upon receipt of several complaints from surrounding
residents; any such decision shall be preceded by notice to the
applicant, a public hearing, and shall be based on specific
findings.
C-10 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 85-50
Applicant: Dick Thorpe
Conditional Use Permit No. 85-50 is a request to establish retail
sales of automobile accessories in a vacant building having 3,249
square feet of floor area. The building (formerly Yang's Drug Store)
is immediately adjacent to the applicant's other business, Pristine
Porsche. Although the site plan submitted indicates "installation" as
a use within the building, the applicant has indicated that the use of
the building will be limited to retail sales.
ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS:
Categorically exempt Section 15301, Class 1.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
Dick Thorpe, applicant, spoke in support of the project.
Jim Briggs, owner of the property, spoke in support of the stating Mr.
Thorpe has been a very successful businessman. He said that his Mr.
Thorpe's added business would improve the property value.
Susan Lucci, neighboring business owner, felt that Mr. Thorpe has been
"hasseled" by the city and spoke in support of the proposal promoting
Mr. Thorpes business abilities.
Tom Vantile, spoke in support of the proposal.
Jerry Williams, owner of the business next door, spoke in support of
Mr. Thorpe's business and proposed project.
There being no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Porter commented that these plans were submitted over two
months ago questioning staff why it took two months to come to the
Planning Commission. Florence Webb of staff explained that when the
application was submitted it was incomplete and the use proposed was
not in conformance with the Downtown Specific Plan.
P.C. November 19, 1985 -12- (3885d)
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The Commission asked staff to clarify the reason for -the conditional
use permit,application: Florence Webb of staff stated that another
drug store can,;go J nto this,building.without new entitlement. The
applicant.must•;have; the, same-.use.,without change, Auto,accessory sales
is not the same as a drug store.
Commissioner Schumacher stated that she supported this project because
she did not want to see -;these buildings empty when the City could be
receiving revenue, and,as•long as the applicant is aware that he has
to move when redevelopment begins.
Commissioner Rowe -commented that he concurred with Commissioner
Schumacher.
Commissioner Schumacher said she did not find this proposal to be
detrimental to the area-.__ She_asked if this project is approved, what
type of'"conditions of approval could be imposed.
Glen Godfrey,of staff,,said,that if the direction of•the Planning
Commission,is for_,,approval the,staff could come back -with findings and
conditions of approval by the: -next -meeting, •• � ;'' .
A MOTION ,WAS• ;MADE BY' :PORTER - AND,-.SECOND?BY `MIRJAHANGIR TO CONTINUE
CONDITIONAL USE,,PERMIT NO.,.•85-50 TO THE',DECEMBER 31' 1985 PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETING BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Rower. ,Winch,ell,_ =Schumacher.-: Porter f -Mir jahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Livengood, Erskine _.
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED 3
C-11 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 85=84-
Applicant: Chevron USA = _--
The :Plannin-g Commission .approved Conditional-• Use �Permit� No. 85=30 on
September-, ,,, 1.985,>•tep, Derma t :tbe- cons-tructi-6n of � a 'conveni`ence" market
in con Junction.,.wi;t,b, the,, sale of, gasoline.! . (A tondition was ' placed on
the pro3ect'that no alcohol..sales,be-•permi•tted:-). -
As-par,t.of the plan check --process, it was•,determined that the site was
part of. th,e,-FP2._.flood�zone_which::would'require•that the,'tructure
either"be;constructed,,9r,floodproofed:.up-,to-�an,elevation'of- thirteen
feet above` sea ,1eve1 .. �,The_,grading:,plan:=of the= site indicates the
grade at 8.5--, above_)sea level :: aThe_applicant- is- requesting an
exception,_to_.these '-,_quir,ements.-far",floodproofing purstTant to the
specific 'variance procedue;s,et forthAn Article ,9695 for`'the
floodplain district.
ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS:
The proposed project -is_
-covered ,by: Negative -Declaration --No. 85-35,
approved by the `Phanning-,Commission•, on September -4,-',1985 in
conjunction with! the approved.,zone-change •and• conditional' use permit.
P.C. November_ 19.,-, 1985 -13- - - -= (3885d)
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
Mark Murphy, representing the applicant, spoke in support of the
project.
Commissioner Porter stated that he was not opposed to the conditional
exception but he was not happy with the brown sheet metal building,
commenting that half of the structure should be slumpstone. He felt
that more attention should be paid to the structure in order to
upgrade the main appearance of the building.
Leo Kiso, archetect, stated that these buildings are very expensive
and it would destroy the project if we have to go along with the
Commissions request.
Commissioner Porter stated that in regard to the flood requirement
that can be imposed would supplement the extra cost of additional
material to the sheet metal building.
There being no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY PORTER AND SECOND BY ROWE TO APPROVE THE
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 85- WITH MODIFIED FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS
BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Schumacher, Porter, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Livengood, Erskine
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL:
1. The applicant has demonstrated that there is a showing of good
and sufficient cause due to the size, life, occupancy and value
of the building in relation to the cost involved in
floodproofing the structure.
2. Failure to grant the variance would result in exceptional
hardship to the applicant due to the additional cost involved in
meeting the floodproofing requirements of Section 969.6.19(c)(3)
of the Huntington Beach Ordinance Code.
3. The granting of the variance will not result in increased flood
heights, additional threats to public safety, extraordinary
public expense, and will not create a nuisance, cause fraud or
victimize the public, or conflict with existing local laws or
ordinances.
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CONDITION OF APPROVAL:
1. Revised plans and elevations shall be submitted and approved
by the Director of Development Services to depict building and
roof support structures treated with some additional
archetectural treatment (slump stone or brick) to create a
more pleasing archetectural appearance and design.
C-12 SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO. 85-10
Applicant: Chevron USA
Special Sign Permit No. 85-10 is a request to permit two 1.9' x 9'
(15.75 square feet) "CHEVRON" signs on two sides of a canopy. A
special sign permit is required for the proposed canopy signs
because they are considered roof signs which are prohibited per
Article 976 of the Huntington Beach Ordinance Code.
ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS:
The proposed project is exempt pursuant to Class 11(a) Section 15311
from the provisions of the California Environmental Quality Act.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
Mark Murphy, representing Chevron, spoke in support of the project.
There being no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Porter commented that the signing was very attractive
adding that he appreciated the use of channel letters and the
particular design is very consistent with the new installations.
Commissioner Winchell said she would like to add that no wall signs
allowed if there is a canopy sign.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY PORTER AND SECOND BY MIRJAHANGIR TO APPROVE
SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO. 85-10 WITH MODIFIED FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS
BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Schumacher, Porter, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Livengood, Erskine
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
FINDINGS
1. The proposed canopy signs would not adversely affect other
signs in the area.
2. The proposed canopy signs would not be detrimental to property
located in the vicinity.
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3. The proposed canopy signs will be in keeping with the
character, of the shopping center and neighborhood.
4. The proposed canopy signs will not obstruct the vision of
vehicular or pedestrian traffic.
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
1. A site plan and elevation shall be submitted to the Department
of Development Services which will indicate the exact
dimensions for the proposed canopy signs, spandrel signs and
only Food Mart on the cashier's booth.
2. The proposed canopy signs shall be subject to the review and
approval of the Director of Development Services.
3. No building business identification wall signs shall be
allowed.
C-13 SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO. 85-11
Applicant: Huntington Beach'Sign'Co.
Special Sign Permit No.-85-11 is a'request to permit a 20 foot high,
168 square foot multi -tenant freestanding sign -within 200 feet of
two approved monument signs. The Newland Center is governed by
Planned Sign Program No. 81-1.
ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS:
The proposed project is exempt pursuant to Class 11(a) Section 15311
from the provisions of the California Environmental Quality Act.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
Wayne Lamb, representing Huntington Beach Sign Co., spoke in support
of his proposal.
Shari Bower, representing tenants of Newland Center, expressed the
need for a tenant sign with support from management.
Commissioner Schumacher commented that there were 28 tenants asking
for representation, she asked Ms. Bower if she was going to put 14
names on one side and 14 on -the other.
Shari Bower replied yes, adding that they will be rotated.
Jack Britton, spoke in support of the project.
June Lloyd spoke in support of the project.
There being no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Porter stated that with the sign situation regarding
Burger King and Spires he could not support the special sign permit
request.
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Commissioner Schumacher stated since they were using an existing
sign she did rot have a problem with it.
Commissioner Winchell stated she thought it was a very nice looking
sign adding she would support the request because this center is
unique because the buildings are set so far back.
Commissioner Mirjahangir commented that since the applicant is
replacing the sign with something the same size he would support the
request.
The Commission also discussed the difficultly of recognizing so many
tenant names when traveling at a high speed. Commissioner
Schumacher brought to the Commissions attention the fact that the
sign was located adjacent to a signal light.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY SCHUMACHER AND SECOND BY WINCHELL TO APPROVE
SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO. 85-11 WITH MODIFIED FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS
BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Schumacher, Mirjahangir
NOES: Porter
ABSENT: Livengood, Erskine
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL:
1. The proposed freestanding sign shall replace the existing
freestanding identification sign.
2. The proposed sign would not adversely affect other signs in
the area.
3. The proposed sign would not be detrimental to property located
in the vicinity.
4. The proposed sign will be in keeping with the character of the
shopping center and neighborhood.
5. The proposed sign will not obstruct the vision of vehicular or
pedestrian traffic.
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
1. A site plan and elevation shall be submitted to the Department
of Development Services which will indicate the recommended
freestanding sign and exact locations.
2. The proposed freestanding sign shall be subject to the review
and approval of the Director of Development Services.
3. All illegal banners and flags shall be removed.
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4. The proposed sign of 168 sq. ft. is replacing an existing sign
of 200 sq. ft.
C-14 SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO. 85-12
Applicant: Nu Art Signmakers
Special Sign Permit No. 85-12 is a request to permit a 60 square
foot, 4 foot high externally illuminated monument sign in a M1-A,
Restricted Manufacturing District. The proposed sign will be the
only ground sign located on the property. An existing freestanding
sign will be removed if the subject monument sign is approved.
ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS:
The proposed project is exempt pursuant to Class 11(a) Section 15311
from the provisions of the California Environmental Quality Act.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
Joseph Arkeder, representing Public Storage, spoke in support of the
project.
There being no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY WINCHELL AND SECOND BY PORTER TO APPROVE
SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO. 85-12 WITH MODIFIED FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS
BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Schumacher, Porter, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Livengood, Erskine
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL:
1. The proposed recommended 60 square foot monument sign would
not adversely affect other signs in the area.
2. The proposed recommended 60 square foot monument sign would
not be detrimental to property located in the vicinity.
3. The proposed recommended 60 square foot monument sign will be
in keeping with the character of the development and
neighborhood.
4. The proposed recommended 60 square foot monument sign will not
obstruct the vision of vehicular 'or pedestrian traffic.
5. A center of this size is allowed by code a 60 sq. ft. sign,
however, because there is only one tenant, it does meet the
definition of center (three or more tenants). Therefore, a 60
sq. ft. sign on a development of this size will not have a
negative impact upon the area.
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6. The existing freestanding sign shall be removed.
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
1. A site plan and elevation shall be submitted to the Department
of Development Services for a 60 square foot monument sign.
2. The proposed 60 square foot monument sign shall be subject to
the review and approval of the Director of Development
Services.
3. All illegal banners and flags shall be removed.
4. The existing freestanding ground sign shall be removed
concurrently with the installation of the monument sign.
C-15 LAND USE ELEMENT AMENDMENT NO. 85-3 (AREA 2.1)/ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT REPORT NO. 85-2/ZONE CHANGE NO. 85-15
Applicant: City of Huntington Beach
General Plan Land Use Element Amendment No. 85-3 addresses one
private request (Area 2.1) and eleven City -initiated amendments
intended to establish consistency between the General Plan and
existing zoning and developed densities. EIR 85-3 addresses only
Area 2.1 and the City -initiated amendments are treated as
Administrative Items.
Since staff is still preparing and has not yet advertised the eleven
zone changes for the Administrative Items, this public hearing is
intended to address only Area 2.1 and Zone Change No. 85-15.
Further, the 45-day public review period for EIR 85-2 will not
expire until December 2, 1985 so the Planning Commission cannot take
action on any portion of the amendment until December 3, 1985. The
November 19, 1985 public hearing is intended only for the Planning
Commission to review and receive comments on Area 2.1 so that they
will be prepared to make a decision on it on December 3, 1985.
Staff will also have the additional.concurrent zone changes prepared
and advertised for action on December 3, 1985.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
Dean Albright of the Huntington Beach Environmental Board spoke in
opposition to the proposed amendment and zone change.
Mary Rena commented that she has lived in the area for 25 years and
spoke in opposition of the proposed amendment and zone change.
Allen Degenhardt, applicant proposing senior citizen project, spoke
in support of the proposed amendment and zone change and his
proposal for an affordable housing project for senior citizens.
Suellen Crossno spoke in opposition to the proposed amendment and
zone change.
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Richard Short, spoke in opposition to the proposed amendment and
zone change.
There being no further testimony, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Schumacher asked why the General Plan Amendment was so
project specific
Hal Simmons of staff responded that the SR zoning code requires the
submittal of a conceptual development plan at the time of filing a
zone change.
Commissioner Erskine suggested that the applicant work closer with
the neighborhood.
Commissioner Winchell commented that the neighborhood needs to
realize that the General Plan Amendment is general and specific
development problems will be addressed late.
Chairman Livengood suggested a comparison be done with existing R5
zoning in terms of heights, setbacks etc.
Commissioner Erskine agreed with Chairman Livengood recommending
continuance.
The Commission asked about the EIR. Commissioner Winchell stated
that the EIR should adress soils conditions. Hal Simmons of staff
stated that staff was still receiving comments.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY ERKSINE AND SECOND BY SCHUMACHER TO CONTINUE
LAND USE ELEMENT AMENDMENT NO. 85-3 (AREA 2.1)/ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT
REPORT NO. 85-2/ZONE CHANGE NO. 85-15 TO THE DECEMBER 3, 1985
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES:
Rowe, Winchell,
Mirjahangir
NOES:
None
ABSENT:
None
ABSTAIN:
None
MOTION PASSED
Schumacher, Livengood, Erskine, Porter,
C-16 CODE AMENDMENT NO. 85-22/NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 85-63
Applicant: City of Huntington Beach
A request to increase the required parking for senior residential
projects developed pursuant to the -SR suffix.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
There being no testimony, the public hearing was closed.
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A MOTION WAS M79,DF BY WINCHELL AND SECOND BY ROWE TO APPROVE CODE
AMENDMENT NO. 85-22/NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 85-63 AND RECOMMEND TO
THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Rowe, Winchell, Schumacher, Porter, Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Livengood, Erskine
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
D. ITEMS NOT FOR PUBLIC HEARING:
D-1 Parking and Landscaping Comparison
DISCUSSED
D-2 Hazardous Materials Disclosure Ordinance
DISCUSSED
E. DISCUSSION ITEMS:
F. PENDING ITEMS:
NONE
G. PLANNING COMMISSION ITEMS:
The Commission requested staff to look into the idea of
modifying the code to allow only two stories in R1 zone.
H. DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ITEMS:
The Commissioner discussed and reviewed items handed out by
the staff on Ground Signs for Loehmann's Five Points Plaza,
Entertainment Permit for Old World German Restaurant.
The Commission reviewed a proposal submitted by Dave Oddo to
establish two single family lots on the property at 902 Main
Street as an alternative to a proposal that was denied by the
Planning Commission on November 5, 1985. The Commission's
concensus was that they could not support the Oddo proposal.
I. ADJOURNMENT:
The Planning Commission Meeting was adjourned at 12:20 a.m. to
the next regular meeting of December 3, 1985.
!;J mes W. Palin, Secretary Tom Li ,n ood, Chairman
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