HomeMy WebLinkAbout1986-01-07APPROVED 2/4/86
MINUTES
HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
Council Chambers - Civic Center
2000 Main Street
Huntington Beach, California
TUESDAY, JANUARY 7, 1986 - 7:00 PM
CALL TO ORDER
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL:
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Winchell, Schumacher, Livengood, Erskine,
Porter, Mirjahangir
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT: Rowe (out of town)
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS: ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN AND VICE-CHAIRMAN
Commissioner Schumacher nominated Commissioner Livengood for
Planning Commission Chairman for a second term.
MOTION WAS MADE BY PORTER SECOND BY WINCHELL TO ELECT LIVENGOOD.
MOTION PASSED BY ACCLAMATION
Commissioner Erskine nominated Commissioner Schumacher for Planning
Commission Co -Chairman for a second term.
MOTION WAS MADE BY WINCHELL SECOND BY ERSKINE TO ELECT SCHUMACHER
MOTION PASSED BY ACCLAMATION
Chairman Livengood thanked all of the Planning Commissioners for the
tremendous number of hours in meetings, research and study that they
were involved in during the year to insure the volume of proposals
submitted in 1985 were completed. He also highlighted the Planning
Commission accomplishments for 1985:
Over 200 Public Hearings were completed and decided on.
Held one all -day workshop with the City Council to improve
communication and the decision -making procedure.
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A procedure was set up where Citizens and Commissioners can
submit concerns to the Planning Commission with a follow-up
system on action taken.
Expanded notification area for projects submitted to Board of
Zoning Adjustments which allows the public to be informed on
action being taken on projects affecting them.
He felt that the improvement in public input into the planning
process was the major accomplishment during the year.
He further stated that he would like to see the Commission agree on
the following goals for 1986:
Budget more time for planning
Completion of a revised Sign Ordinance
Complete the Specific Plans for Edwards Hill/Holly Property/
Main/Beach/Gothard area.
Take some action on Flood Control and see some projects
started.
A. CONSENT CALENDAR:
None
B. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS AND COMMISSION ITEMS:
Local Coastal Plan (LCP) Status - Staff was congratulated for
completing report. There have been 41 LCP's submitted for
approval in Orange County. To date, only 8 have been
certified to issue permits. The City of Huntington Beach is
one of the approved ones.
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C. ITEMS FOR PUBLIC HEARING
C-1 LAND USE ELEMENT AMENDMENT NO. 85-3/ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT
REPORT NO. 85-2/ZONE CHANGE NO. 85-15
Applicant: Meadowland LTD
At the December 3, 1985 Planning Commission meeting, Land Use
Element Amendment 85-3/Zone Change 85-15 was continued to January 7,
1986 so that renderings of how alternative types of development
would appear could be prepared. The applicant has prepared
renderings for a development of 48 four-plexes, a development of 45
townhomes, and a 100,000 square foot office. The applicant has also
prepared a comparative analysis of bulk, population, vehicle trips,
and construction costs for the alternative development.
Staff has reviewed these comparative analysis and feels that it is
reasonably accurate. The bulk and population analysis indicates
that the higher density senior apartment projects are very similar
to the R2 projects in terms of potential impacts on the surrounding
neighborhood and the office projects would have greater impacts.
The applicant has also revised the site plan for the 114 unit
project as recommended by staff. Though it does still need some
adjustment to meet code we feel that it adequately addresses the
neighborhood concerns regarding privacy and aesthetics. Staff feels
that a 114 unit project is a good proposal for the site and is
continuing to recommend approval.
ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS:
Environmental documentation for Area 2.1 may be found in the
Amendment document which also serves as Environmental Impact Report
No. 85-2. The EIR was posted for a 45-day review period ending
December 2, 1985. Review agency and public comments, as well as
staff responses, will constitute the Final EIR when transmitted to
the City Council. These items are incorporated in the addendum and
appendix portions of the report. Zone Change No. 85-15 is also
covered by EIR 85-2.
Staff referred the Commissioners to Resolution 1349B for approval of
Medium -High density. Staff further recommended that Zone Change
85-15 be approved for a change of zone to Qualified Medium High
Density Residential. The "Q" would require Design Review Board
approval of the project. Staff further recommended that the zone
change ordinance be amended to include a maximum unit count of 114
unitrs also under the "Q".
Staff suggested that action be taken in the following order:
1. EIR 85-2
2. Land USe Element Amendment 85-3 (Resolution 1349B)
3. Zone Change 85-15
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THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
Dan Neveau, principal on the project, spoke in favor of the
project. He addressed problems on traffic, size, privacy, site
problems, and underground parking. Alternative options for
comparison were discussed.
Jeanie Sager, Emerald Cove principal, spoke in favor of a senior
housing project. She pointed out that many seniors were turned away
because of lack of space at Emerald Cove and pointed out that our
community needs more senior projects.
Richard Short, homeowner on adjacent property, spoke against the
project. He had a list of 38 homeowners also against the project
and said that they were available to speak if needed. He listed the
problems of the homeowners which included high density, traffic, and
privacy. He feels that a soil survey needs to be completed and a
zoning limit set.
Lance Berry spoke against the Meadowland project. Said the zoning
should be low density.
Elizabeth Short, homeowner, spoke against the project. She
supported a senior project but felt that this project was not
beneficial to the neighboring residents.
Katherine Berry, resident, said she was in favor of a senior project
but was against the proposed plan at this site.
Mike Rogers, Council on Aging, spoke in favor of the project. Our
community has a real need for housing for seniors with private
financing. This project is affordable and is a good start for
seniors in this area. Its location is near medical facilities, near
shopping and churches, and has a good transportation system nearby.
Todd Olson, resident, questioned whether this projects would really
be affordable to most seniors with rents approximated at $525 to
$700 per month.
Ho-Van-Cao questioned why R5 was being changed. Why is the
Commission allowing this change?
Dan Neveau reiterated that intensity is the issue and that senior
projects are less intense. This is a privately funded project not a
federally funded project.
There were no other persons to speak for or against the proposal and
the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Livengood pointed out that what the Commission had to
consider here was an existing R5 zoning which would allow a building
with a 10 foot setback, with approximately 100,000 square feet and a
height of 35 feet. The applicant is asking for a 148 unit senior
complex and staff is recommending 114 units. He asked members of
the Commission for their comments.
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Commissioner Winchell stated that she felt the Commission was
dealing with an existing Land Use Designation which allows office
professional. The applicant is requesting high density and the
staff is recommending medium high density. The General Plan is more
binding than just making a zone change and it says nothing about
seniors or number of units. This project is residential versus
office profesional. What best benefits the City? The City needs a
compromise. A project like this needs to be economically feasible
for a developer without lining his pockets. We need a reasonable
project for the adjacent neighbors and one that also satisfies the
needs of the City for more senior housing
Commissioner Schumacher feels that the General Plan needs to be
flexible. The City needs more senior housing. Additional office
space is not needed and that the Commission must look at intensity
not just density with the least amount of impacts.
Commissioner Erskine feels that senior housing is needed and another
office project is not. He asked if the General Plan could be
conditioned so that it would require only senior housing.
Mr. Godfrey, staff, stated that such mechanisms have never been
incorporated in this City but he has seen it done in other
communities. The zoning could be conditioned.
Commissioner Porter recommended that we designate this project
Medium Density and add the Senior Residential suffix. He felt that
the project could be situated on the parcel to minimize the
intrusion in the adjacent neighborhood.
Commissioner Mirjahangir stated that he would support residential
over commercial. He felt the question to be considered was the
number of units to be allowed.
Commissioner Livengood agrees with a senior residential project. He
feels that it would be the best for the neighborhood. He is not in
favor of subterranean parking. He is concerned about the soils
condition and the impact of subterranean parking. He would prefer a
compromise of fewer units with surface parking and better
landscaping.
There were no other comments from the Commissioners.
Chairman Livengood asked that they take action first on the EIR.
There were some questions concerning some statements in the EIR:
Page 8 to read: Development of site for office professional uses
would be consistent with existing R5 zoning. The site could
accommodate a 100,000 square foot office building with a maximum of
35 foot height and 3 stories.
The staff report regarding asbestos, which is a concern on this
project, should be incorporated into the EIR.
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Environmental checklist: Item 1 - Earth. Will the proposal result
in unstable earth conditions or changes in geological structures.
The answer should be listed as maybe.
Explanations Yes and Maybe on the EIR - Item 11: The proposal will
result in approximately 200 additional people residing in the area.
Is this a correct statement based on the proceedings. Staff was
comfortable with this figure.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY ERSKINE AND SECOND BY MIRJAHANGIR TO APPROVE
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT NO. 85-2 WITH AMENDMENTS BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Winchell, Schumacher, Livengood, Erskine, Porter,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Rowe
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
Chairman Livengood then called for a discussion on the Land Use
Element Amendment and the Zone Change.
Commissioner Porter asked staff if the plan for 114 units had been
reviewed and would it fit on this parcel.
Staff stated that they had done a preliminary plan check and that
there were some minor problems but that the project can be made
workable.
It was recommended that the General Plan be changed to a Medium
Density Residential designation, and that the unit count could be
made higher with a density bonus for senior housing and affordable
housing. A discussion ensued as to whether the General Plan could
be changed. What type of use do we want on this property. Could
there be conditions set on the Land Use Designation?
Mr. Sangster, City Attorney, stated that the Land Use Element could
be conditioned but there were limits as to how many times changes
could be made each year.
Staff feels that Q-R3-SR is workable and that a project could be
built that would include only senior housing, with conditions placed
very carefully in the zone change.
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A MOTION WAS MADE BY ERSKINE AND SECOND BY MIRJAHANGIR TO APPROVE
LAND USE ELEMENT AMENDMENT NO. 85-3 AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF TO
MEDIUM HIGH DENSITY BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Schumacher, Erskine, Mirjahangir
NOES: Winchell, Livengood, Porter
ABSENT: Rowe
ABSTAIN: none
MOTION FAILED
A MOTION WAS MADE BY WINCHELL AND SECOND BY PORTER TO APPROVE LAND
USE ELEMENT AMENDMENT NO. 85-3 WITH LAND USE DESIGNATION CHANGED TO
MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Winchell, Livengood, Porter
NOES: Schumacher, Erskine, Mirjahangir
ABSENT: Rowe
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION FAILS
This item was automatically continued to the next regular meeting or
a date agreed upon by the Commission.
Staff was directed to tape this portion of the meeting so that
Commissioner Rowe could review it before the next meeting.
A MOTION MADE BY ERSKINE AND SECOND BY MIRJAHANGIR TO CONTINUE THIS
ITEM TO THE JANUARY 22, 1986 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Winchell, Schumacher, Livengood, Porter, Erskine,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Rowe
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
C-2 SIGN CODE AMENDMENT NO. 84-11
Applicant: City of Huntington Beach
On November 19, 1985, the Planning Commission opened the public
hearing on the proposed sign code amendment and continued the item
until January 7, 1986. At the study session on December 10, 1985,
it was determined that this item should be continued until March 4,
1986, in order for more time to work on the code amendment.
In order to avoid making any wall signs that conform to the existing
Sign Code nonconforming due to size, staff is willing to modify the
draft ordinance so that there is no change in the regulations; that
is, the 1.5 to 1.0 ratio will remain as is.
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There are two items on which staff wishes to receive direction in
order to organize a preliminary survey of the number of signs which
could potentially be made nonconforming by the proposed provisions
in the draft Sign ordinance. These are items numbers 4 and 5 from
the staff report prepared for the December 10, 1985 study session
(below). They had previously been suggested for inclusion in the
draft ordinance by Commissioner Porter.
4. Freestanding Signs in conjunction with buildings encroachin
into special fifty foot setback: A comment was made regarding
the lack of need for freestanding signs to identify buildings
that already take advantage of provisions to encroach within
the fifty foot setback where allowed. With a reduced setback,
there is a much higher visibility of the wall signs on such
buildings, thus making identification on freestanding sign
structures unnecessary and redundant. Staff would support
language added to the ordinance to prohibit freestanding signs
for buildings that encroach into the fifty foot setback.
5. Freestanding Signs for Commercial Businesses at Intersections:
Also suggested were separate restrictions for buildings at
intersections: freestanding signs to be monument -type only and
limited to twenty square feet in area. Such signs would have
to be located outside of the twenty-five foot corner cut-off
area depicted in Diagram A, as any freestanding sign would.
Staff would support this provision, which can be incorporated
in the draft ordinance if the Planning Commission so directs.
Staff requested a concensus of approval from the Commissioners for
support on item number 4 and 5. The Commissioners supported the two
items with the following comments.
Commissioners felt that pictorial examples are needed.
Current signage needs to be cleaned up. We need balance so that
businesses that have a prominent location from a building standpoint
have an advantage and they can make use of that advantage by
advertising on the building and those businesses in back of the
property also have some claim to exposure.
Are signs objectionable? How do they relate to community standards
and economic issues? There is no public contingency demanding that
we adopt sign code revisions.
Commissioner Porter had a question regarding freestanding signs with
buildings encroaching into special 50 foot setbacks. How far can a
building encroach into the 50 foot setback between the 25 foot
cutoff and 50 foot setback line at an intersection on public
streets. Would there be any additional signs beyond the 50 foot
monument sign provided at the intersection?
Staff is prepared to survey structures with ground signs to see how
many would be in a non -conforming situation with regard to such
changes if changes were to be made in the ordinance code.
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Huntington Beach Sign Company volunteered to take interested persons
on a field tour of the community before the next scheduled study
session on February 18, 1986.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY PORTER TO CONTINUE SIGN
CODE AMENDMENT NO. 84-11 TO THE MARCH 4, 1986 PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Winchell, Schumacher, Livengood, Erskine, Porter,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Rowe
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
C-3 CODE AMENDMENT NO. 85-21/NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 85-66
Applicant: City of Huntington Beach
At the December 17, 1985 Planning Commission meeting, the Planning
Commission continued Code Amendment No. 85-21 and requested a change
to the draft ordinance. The change was to eliminate extensions of
time for tentative and vesting tentative maps.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
Bill Holman, representing Mansion Properties, spoke in general
support of the amendment. He did however voice his concerns
regarding the Planning Commission's decision to consider amending
their current subdivision procedures as they effect the time lines
of normal tentative maps. He stated that he would like to have
further discussions with staff regarding his concerns.
There were no other persons to speak for or against the proposal and
the public hearing was closed.
Staff suggested that since further discussions were needed on this
amendment that it be tabled until further notice. The item would
have to be readvertised after such discussions were held.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY PORTER AND SECOND BY WINCHELL TO TABLE CODE
AMENDMENT NO. 85-21/NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 85-66 UNTIL FURTHER
NOTICE BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Winchell, Schuamcher, Livengood, Erskine, Porter,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Rowe
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
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C-4 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 85-66
Applicant: Chris Kiralla
Conditional Use Permit No. 85-66 is a request to expand an existing
wood product wholesale distribution operation to include wood
chipping and an office. The wholesale distribution operation was
established by Conditional Use Permit No. 85-37, which was
conditionally approved by the Planning Commission on August 20,
1985. The applicant has indicated that he desires to operate a wood
chipper which will manufacture the wood products which he currently
distributes and that he also needs a small office in order to better
operate his business. A new conditional use permit is required
because this request represents an increased intensity of use.
ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS:
On August 20, 1985, the Planning Commission approved Negative
Declaration No. 85-37 which addressed environmental concerns for
Conditional Use Permit No. 85-31. Staffs feels that Negative
Declaration No. 85-37 covers this new request subject to additional
conditions. Two conditions that shall apply are the applicant shall
provide a noise study and chipping shall cease when the wind
velocity exceeds 13 mph.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
The applicant was present to answer any questions.
There were no other persons to speak for or against the proposal and
the public hearing was closed.
The Commission questioned whether there were landscaping
requirements along Talbert Avenue and if so was there a time frame
in which the applicant had to comply with the requirements. Also
they were concerned about the noise attenuation.
The applicant explained that according to Condition No. 10 he had 12
months in which to complete all landscaping and that he was
proceeding with the completion. Also, an acoustical engineer has
determined that the sound wall will be effective and should not be
visible.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY ERSKINE AND SECOND BY PORTER TO APPROVE
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 85-66 WITH FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Winchell, Schumacher, Livengood, Erskine, Porter,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Rowe
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
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FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL:
1. The proposed use will not have a detrimental effect upon the
general health, welfare, safety and convenience of persons
residing or working in the neighborhood, or is detrimental to
the value of the property and improvements in the neighborhood.
2. The proposed use will be compatible with existing or other
proposed uses in the neighborhood.
3. The proposed location and site layout of the proposed use will
properly adapt structures to streets, driveways, and other
adjacent structures and uses in a harmonious manner.
4. The access to and parking for the proposed use will not create
traffic problems.
SUGGESTED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL:
1. The site plan received and dated November 27, 1985, shall be
the approved layout.
2. All conditions of approval for Conditional Use Permit No.
85-31 shall apply.
3. The applicant shall provide a noise study by an acoustical
engineer/sound engineer with mitigating measures for the
surrounding properties prior to obtaining a certificate to
operate.
4. The siting and architectural design of the proposed office
shall be subject to the review and approval by the Director of
Development Services.
5. Approval shall be for an initial two year time period with a
maximum of three one-year extensions by the Planning
Commission.
6. The Planning Commission reserves the right to revoke
Conditional Use Permit No. 85-66 if any violation of these
conditions of the Huntington Beach Ordinance Code occurs.
C-5 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 85-61
Applicant: Christ Presbyterian Preschool
Conditional Use Permit No. 85-61 is a request to permit an expansion
to an existing pre-school facility with a 2,160 square foot modular
building. On October 17, 1978, the Planning Commission approved a
request to redesign parking facilities and construct classroom
facilities at the subject site. On May 21, 1980, the Planning
Commission approved Conditional Use Permit No. 80-14 and Conditional
Exception No. 80-33 which permitted the construction of additional
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classrooms at the existing church facilities. Conditional Exception
No. 80-33 permitted a front yard setback encroachment of 9 feet for
the main building.
ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS:
The proposed project is exempt pursuant to Class l(a) Section 15301
from the provisions of the California Environmental Quality Act.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
Connie Hornyak spoke in behalf of the church, supporting the
project. The church is prepared to comply with any conditions
necessary for approval of the project. She read a letter from the
Pastor explaining that the preschool and church services are never
held at the same time. She also explained that restriping the
parking area, according to their calculations, would total 179
parking spaces (40% for compact cars). Since staff was requiring
184, and it would cost them an additional $4,500 to add 5 more
spaces making it economically unfeasible, would they still support
the proposal. She also mentioned that they neighbor, Sutomono Bank,
verbally agreed to let them use sixteen of their parking spaces for
services on Sunday.
Arthur Meares also spoke in favor of the proposal.
There were no other persons to speak for or against the proposal and
the public hearing was closed.
There was a discussion regarding how the figures were arrived at for
determining how many parking spaces were necessary. Were parking
spaces needed to service classrooms during church services? How
many spaces would be absorbed by the modular classroom? Can they go
with the sixteen spaces loaned to them by the bank without written
permission? Both staff and the Commissioners agreed that 179
parking spaces would be sufficient, after restriping.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD SECOND BY PORTER TO APPROVE
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 85-61 WITH FINDINGS AND MODIFIED
CONDITIONS BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Winchell, Schumacher, Livengood, Erskine, Porter,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Rowe
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
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FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL:
1. The establishment, maintenance and operation of the use will
not be detrimental to:
a. The general welfare of persons residing or working in the
vicinity;
b. Property and improvements in the vicinity of such use or
building.
2. The proposal is consistent with the City's General Plan of
Land Use.
3. The proposed use is compatible with existing or other proposed
uses in the neighborhood.
4. The location, site layout, and design of the proposed use will
adapt the proposed structures to streets, driveways, and other
adjacent structures and uses.
5. The combination and relationship of the proposed use to the
other use on a site will properly be integrated.
6. The access to and parking for the proposed use will not create
an undue traffic problem.
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL:
1. A revised site plan and elevation shall be submitted depicting
the modifications described herein:
a. Landscaping shall be provided around the perimeter of the
modular building.
b. Elevation shall indicate a permanent foundation and
skirting which will screen the foundation from view.
C. Set back building to provide 3 foot setback from drive
aisle according to the Fire Department standards.
d. A 17' x 45' turning radius shall be maintained for fire
purposes.
2. Special architectural treatment shall be provided. Such
treatment is subject to approval by the Department of
Development Services.
3. The development shall comply with all applicable provisions of
the Ordinance Code, Building Division, and Fire Department.
4. Service roads and fire lanes, as determined by the Fire
Department, shall be posted and marked.
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5. On -site fire hydrants shall be provided in number and at
locations specified by the Fire Department.
6. Installation of required landscaping and irrigation systems
shall be completed within twelve (12) months.
7. Proposed structures shall be architecturally compatible with
existing structures.
8. The Planning Commission reserves the right to revoke this
Conditional Use Permit if any violation of these conditions of
the Huntington Beach Ordinance Code occurs.
C-6 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 85-64
Applicant: Avelma Zeno
A request to add a second residential unit to an existing single
family residence located at 17382 Murken Lane in Huntington Beach,
California.
The item cannot be acted on due to a problem in the publication of
the legal advertisement. The notice did not appear in the newspaper
although it was mailed to the surrounding residents.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY WINCHELL AND SECOND BY PORTER TO LEAVE THE
PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND CONTINUE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 85-64
UNTIL THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF JANUARY 22, 1986 BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Winchell, Schumacher, Livengood, Erskine, Porter,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Rowe
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
C-7 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 85-68
Applicant: Lucy Sisley
A request for an addition of a second unit to an existing single
family home located at 6201 Dover Drive, Huntington Beach,
California 92647.
The item cannot be acted on due to a problem in the publication of
the legal advertisement. The notice did not appear in the newspaper
although it was mailed to the surrounding residents.
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THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY ERSKINE TO LEAVE THE
PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND CONTINUE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 85-68
UNTIL THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF JANUARY 22, 1986 BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Winchell, Schumacher, Livengood, Erskine, Porter,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Rowe
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
C-8 SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO. 85-13
Applicant: Donco and Sons Inc.
Special Sign Permit No. 85-13 is a request to permit facia signage
on a freestanding canopy, sign copy on 2 sets of proposed spandrel
signs, and 6 bumper post signs, at an existing Arco gasoline
station. The applicant has indicated that the proposed sign changes
are in conjunction with Arco's image improvement program.
ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS:
The proposed project is exempt pursuant to Class 11(a) Section 15311
from the provisions of the California Environmental Quality Act.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED.
Mark Fink, representing ARCO spoke in support of the Special Sign
Permit. He could not understand staff's recommendation for denial
since six other special sign permits had been approved.
There were no other persons to speak for or against the proposal and
the public hearing was closed.
Commissioners wanted to know the history of the other approvals.
They would like to see consistency in these approvals and felt it
would be unfair to this applicant if a thorough investigation was
not done. They felt that this is a nice looking service station and
they did not want to penalize this applicant.
Staff stated that in order to respond, the item would have to be
continued and the other permits that had been approved would have to
be researched to see how (if at all) they differed from this permit.
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A MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD AND SECOND BY ERSKINE TO CONTINUE
SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO. 85-13 TO THE JANUARY 22, 1986 PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETING TO ALLOW STAFF TO PREPARE A REPORT ON SIGNAGE OF
OTHER ARCO STATIONS BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Winchell, Schumacher, Livengood, ERskine, Porter,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Rowe
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
C-9 SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO. 85-14
Applicant: Huntington Beach Sign Co.
Special Sign Permit No. 85-14 is a request to permit a 21 foot high,
double-faced pylon marquee sign for Marina High School on City -owned
property. The proposed sign will be internally illuminated and will
have approximately 110 square feet of sign area.
ENVIRONMENTAL STATUS:
The proposed project is exempt pursuant to Class 11(a) Section 15311
from the provisions of the California Environmental Quality Act.
Commissioners questioned the number of existing signs on the site,
and whether any of the existing signs (especially the current
information sign located at the corner of the site) would be removed.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
Art Betoben, Principal of Marina High School, spoke in support of
the proposal. Current renderings were presented, depicting the
location of the current welcome signs and showing the need for a new
information sign. He felt it would be good for the community as
well as for the school.
Jack Britten, Huntington Beach Sign Co., was present to answer any
questions and spoke in favor of the proposal. He stated that the
existing information sign (20 foot overall) located at the corner of
the site would be removed. Comparing the proposed signs to other
school signs he stated that this sign would be comparable to other
schools except for Edison High School's sign which is larger.
There were no other persons to speak for or against the proposal and
the puiblic hearing was closed.
Since the current conditions did not state that the existing
information sign would be removed, Commissioners felt this should be
added.
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A MOTION WAS MADE BY MIRJAHANGIR AND SECOND BY ERSKINE TO APPROVE
SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO. 85-14 WITH FINDINGS AND MODIFICATIONS TO
CONDITIONS BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Winchell, Schumacher, Livengood, Erskine, Porter,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Rowe
ABSTAI: None
MOTION PASSED
FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL:
1. The proposed 21 foot high, 110 square foot marquee sign will
not adversely affect other signs in the area.
2. The proposed 21 foot high marquee sign will not be detrimental
to property located in the vicinity.
3. The proposed 21 foot high marquee sign will be in keeping with
the character of the neighborhood.
4. The proposed 21 foot high marquee sign will not create a
vehicular traffic hazard.
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL:
1. The applicant shall submit a site plan which shall depict the
sign totally contained within a landscaped area.
2. The applicant shall submit a landscape and irrigation plan for
the proposed sign location area which shall be reviewed and
approved by the Department of Public Works and the Department
of Development Services.
3. The Marina High School shall enter into a Parkway License
Agreement with the City of Huntington Beach which shall be
provided by the Department of Public Works, approved as to form
by the City Attorney, and approved by the City Council prior to
the issuance of permits by the Department of Development
Services.
4. The existing sign on the school premises, adjacent to the
proposed site, shall be removed.
C-10 ZONE CHANGE NO. 85-18/TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO. 298/NEGATIVE
DECLARATION NO. 85-70
Applicant: Jerwel Enterprises
A request to change a portion of property zoned M-1 to C-4 and
consolidate same portion of property into commercial site.
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The item cannot be acted on due to a problem in the publication of
the legal advertisement. The notice did not appear in the newspaper
although it was mailed to the surrounding residents.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY ERSKINE AND SECOND BY MIRJAHANGIR TO LEAVE THE
PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND CONTINUE ZONE CHANGE NO. 85-18/TENTATIVE
PARCEL MAP NO. 298/NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 85-70 UNTIL THE PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETING OF JANUARY 22, 1986 BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Winchell, Schumacher, Livengood, Erskine, Porter,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Rowe
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
C-11 CODE AMENDMENT NO. 85-24
Applicant: City of Huntington Beach
A modification to the Definition Section of Article 970.
The item cannot be acted on due to a problem in the publication of
the legal advertisement. The notice did not appear in the newspaper
although it was mailed to the surrounding residents.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY PORTER AND SECOND BY SCHUMACHER TO LEAVE THE
PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND CONTINUE CODE AMENDMENT NO. 85-24 UNTIL THE
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF JANUARY 22, 1986 BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:
AYES: Winchell, Schumacher, Livengood, Erskine, Porter,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Rowe
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
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D. ITEMS NOT FOR PUBLIC HEARING
D-1 D-1 CODE AMENDMENT NO. 85-17
Clarification on amendment approved December 3, 1985,
regarding Oldtown/Townlot Site Coverage. Applies to third
floor decks.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY WINCHELL AND SECOND BY MIRJAHANGIR TO
REQUEST CLARIFICATION ON THE AMENDMENT, APPROVED DECEMBER 3,
1985, REGARDING OLDTOWN/TOWNLOT SITE COVERAGE. (REQUEST: NO
DECKS ON ROOF OF SECOND FLOOR WHERE THERE IS 55% LOT
COVERAGE). STAFF WILL PREPARE A REQUEST TO SEND THE AMENDMENT
BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A REPORT PRIOR TO IT BEING
ACTED ON BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
AYES: Winchell, Schumacher, Porter, Mirjahangir
NOES: Livengood (did not understand the motion,
procedurally)
ABSENT: Rowe
ABSTAIN: Erskine
MOTION PASSED
D-2 EXTENSION OF TIME FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 84-31 AT MAIN
AND FLORIDA FOR 148 UNIT SENIOR APARTMENTS.
A MOTION BY ERSKINE AND SECOND BY MIRJAHANGIR TO RECOMMEND
APPROVAL OF EXTENSION OF TIME FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO.
84-31 BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Winchell, Schumacher, Livengood, Erskine, Porter,
Mirjahangir
NOES: None
ABSENT: Rowe
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
D-3 PLANNING COMMISSION REQUEST FOR INFORMATION ON EXPANSION OF
OAKVIEW REDEVELOPMENT AREA
Commission reviewed the report. A survey area encompassing
the entire Beach Boulevard corridor within the City's
jurisdiction will forthcoming.
Commissioner Erskine remarked that while driving east on
Warner towards Beach Boulevard he noticed the areas
surrounding the proposed photo shop project. All the
surrounding structures had stucco or brick siding and that he
hoped staff, at the design review, would keep these
architectural similarities in mind and require some
attractive, permanent, non -wood siding for the entire project.
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E. DISCUSSION ITEMS:
E-1 USE PERMIT NO. 85-75
Reviewed the December 18, 1985 Board of Zoning Adjustments
minutes.
E-2 USE PERMIT NO. 85-80
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Discussed live entertainment at this location. Applicant
wanted clarification on whether a piano player or harpist is
considered live entertainment. Staff stated that a
Conditional Use Permit is required.
PENDING ITEMS:
Planning Commission requested that staff provide a Pending
Items list going back to its inception and the status of each
item that is still outstanding. This list is to be kept
current and included in every Planning Commission agenda.
Items discussed include:
The banner for Graham Chiropractic - The Commission felt it
was inappropriate inasmuch as he had an extremely large
pole sign. Check to see if he has a permit.
Noise circulation and parking at Charter Center parking
structure. Evidently, there are times when the valet
parking is ineffective. There are a number of conflicts in
the circulation system and the structure itself with
automobiles moving in and out and may not be in conformance
with the noise ordinance. We may have to provide an
acoustical treatment or some other treatment to be in
conformance with the noise ordinance.
There was to be a traffic study performed at a percentage
of occupancy at Ash and Warner to ascertain if a traffic
signal would be required.
PLANNING COMMISSION ITEMS:
Commissioners asked that their mail (if marked personal) could
be forwarded to them immediately instead of waiting for packet
day.
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ITEMS:
None
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I. ADJOURNMENT:
The Chairman adjourned the meeting at 11:20 PM to the next
regular meeting of January 22, 1986.
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