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MINUTES
HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
July 28, 1987 - 7:00 PM
Council Chambers - Civic Center
2000 Main Street
Huntington Beach, California
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
P P P P A
ROLL CALL: Silva, Schumacher, Higgins, Pierce, Leipzig,
P P
Summerell, Livengood
A. CONSENT CALENDAR
None
B. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS AND COMMISSION ITEMS
B-1 STATUS OF PERIMETER BLOCK WALLS - CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
NO. 83-18 - M. WESTLAND COMPANY
Staff reported to the Commission that a hydrology study was
being performed to determine if the addition of the wall would
meet the intent of equal distribution of water and that a
report would be presented at the August 18, 1987 Planning
Commission meeting.
The following residents addressed their concerns regarding the
construction of the wall:
Dean Zitco, 16332 Magellan Lane; Reverand Robert Hardin, 16242
Magellan Lane; Frank Pfeifer, 16322 Magellan Lane; Cal Faello,
16351 Magellan Lane; and Fotis Georgatsos, 16262 Magellan Lane.
C. PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
C-1 LAND USE ELEMENT AMENDMENT 87-2C AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT
REPORT 87-2
Land Use Element Amendment 87-2C is a request to amend the General
Plan by redesignating the 65 acre Meadowlark Airport site from Low
Density Residential to Planned Community containing 50 acres of
mixed residential totalling 1,975 units and 15 acres of retail
commercial. The site is located approximately 600 feet north and
east of the intersection of Bolsa Chica Street and Warner Avenue.
Land Use Element No. 87-2C was originally processed as Area 2.1 of
Land Use Element Amendment No. 87-2. Areas 2.1 and 2.2 were split
up for separate processing; however, after the applicant for Area
2.1 requested continuation of that item. Area 2.1 is now being
processed by itself as Land Use Element Amendment No. 87-2C.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
Continue action on Land Use Element Amendment No. 87-2C and
Environmental Impact Report No. 87-2 and direct staff to prepare a
specific plan zone change ordinance with conditions. The specific
plan would then be processed concurrently with the land use element
amendment and environmental imapct report.
THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED
Dick Harlow, representing the applicant, spoke in support of the
request. He stated that his client will not be requesting a density
bonus and is presently doing a market study of commercial uses for
the corner of the site. He said that the proposed development plans
will include mixed development, single family homes, apartments,
condominiums, etc. His client is concerned with traffic problems
and the phasing plan for development of his project. He intends to
file a conditional use permit after the specific plan which will
address the distribution of housing is completed. He further stated
that his client wants to avoid "piece -meal" development, is well
aware of the potential impacts from development and desires to be a
good neighbor. Estimated time frame for development will be 2 years
for the commercial and 5 to 10 years for the overall development.
Craig H. Mandeville, 4751 Hermanson Circle, spoke in favor of
closing Meadowlark Airport. He objects to airplanes and the noise
problems that they create. He feels that the airport will present a
dangerous situation if the surrounding property is developed any
further. He stated that the location of his home in relation to the
airport presently prevents him from sleeping or talking during
flight times and he feels the airport is an eyesore and a poor image
for the City. He feels the airport should be closed immediately.
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Barbara Milkovich, 6032 Dundee Drive, member of the Historical
Resources Board, stated that her board has considered the
environmental impact report on the property and is concerned with
development since there are archaeological sites present on the site.
Mark Latham, 16371 Hollywood Lane, stated that he has no objection
to the closing of the airport due to the noise and pollution
problems caused from the airplanes. He further stated that he would
like to see Low Density in the developed area due to the increased
traffic that more density would create. He expressed his concerns
over acces onto Heil from Graham with Medium Density or higher.
Dean Albright, 17301 Breda Lane, member of Environmental Board,
addressed his environmental concerns regarding sewers, water supply
and traffic. He stated that he has personally completed a survey of
the commercial centers surrounding the site and found 54 empty
stores. He feels that since numerous mobile home parks will be
vacated soon that this site should be seriously considered for that
use.
Terry Lancaster, 9055 Bitterott Circle, Fountain Valley, airplane
owner, stated that airspace belongs to the citizens. He recommended
that the City purchase the airport to retain the open space.
Bill Sullivan, 16601 Graham Street, stated that he has no objection
to the airport and is never bothered by noise.
Mark Browning, 16771 Roosevelt, stated that he has no problem with
the airport. He said that in 1980 this property was designated Low
Density and that if the airport is removed he would hate to see it
replaced with a High Density project. He is concerned with the lack
of alternatives for the site and would much prefer the airplanes to
the addition of automobiles. He further stated that he feels
property values will be lowered if any designation but R1 is allowed
for the development.
Cheryle Browning, 16771 Roosevelt, spoke in support of keeping the
airport. She stated that she is opposed to increasing the density
in the area. She feels that the City should purchase the airport
and that it would be an asset in the case of a major earthquake.
Michael Obradovich, 5031 Pearce Drive, is opposed to any development
that creates more traffic. He would like to see a Citizens Advisory
Committee formed because he feels that studies completed by the City
do not go into enough detail. He addressed his concerns with
infrastructure problems.
Robert A. Floyd, 30 Via De La Mesa, Rancho Santa Margarita, owner of
airplane at Meadowlark, spoke in support of retaining Meadowlark
Airport. He stated that Meadowlark is the last general aviation
location in Orange County and that the City should look into
purchasing and retaining it for potential revenue. He further
stated that there is money available from the FAA.
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Ralph Guerre, 8572 Merle Cr., spoke in support of keeping the
airport. He is opposed to development that increases traffic.
Wellman E. Branstrom, 17012 Greentree Lane, stated that he purchased
his home in the area because he was told that it was low density.
Traffic is his main concern and he is also concerned with staff's
alternative actions. He does not object to the airport.
Cecil Wright, 5612 Middlecoff Drive, stated that he prefers low
density and does not object to the airport.
Wayne Kratzer, 5305 Overland Drive, pilot, spoke in favor of
retaining the airport. He stated that the City can purchase the
airport with FAA assistance and feels that it would be beneficial to
the City. He said that the airport provides citizens recreational
opportunities.
George Sandy, 17931 A Skypark Circle, Irvine, pilot since 1951,
spoke in support of retaining the airport. He feels that the City
should purchase the airport stated that there is County money and
FAA money available for assistance in purchasing.
Henry Stegman, 821 W. Fairway, Big Bear City, pilot, stated that
property owners should have the right to develop their land the way
they choose and urged the applicant to retain the airport.
Ralph Ricks, 5362 Old Pirate Lane, feels that there should be a
long-term study done on the area. He said that in 1980 the property
was zoned for mobile homes and medium density however he prefers low
density.
Laurel Romm, 18709 Doty Avenue, Torrance, spoke in support of the
airport. He said that history would be destroyed by closing the
airport.
Fred DeNuccio,- 17092 St. Andrews Lane, spoke in support of the
airport.' He stated that it provides recreation for the citizens and
that he feels the City should purchase and improve the facility. He
feels that'the projected additional 23,000 automobiles to the area
is less favorable than the airplanes.
Dan Clark, 16361 Hollywood Lane, expressed his concern with the
traffic that will result from the proposed project. He stated that
he lives right at the end of the landing strip and has no problems
or complaints about the airport.
Arthur Kimball, 3443 Greenbrier Road, Long Beach, member of the
Civil Air Patrol, -stated that Meadowlark Airport is an asset for the
City and would provide disaster relief as a result of the projected
8.3 earthquake.
Walt Wojtaszek, 4908 Skipjack Drive, stated that he has no objection
to the airport.
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Tom Harmen, President of Huntington Beach Tomorrow, addressed his
concerns regarding housing density and traffic generation with the
proposed development. He is in favor of keeping Meadowlark Airport.
Lilian Merg, 16311 Saratoga Lane, spoke in opposition to a high
density development. She is in favor of the airport.
Kathy Hawksford, 5162 Stallion Circle, spoke in favor of a low
density development and stated that she would hate to see Bolsa
Chica Avenue become another Beach Boulevard. She is in favor of the
airport.
Glenn Yeater, 5212 Caliente Drive, spoke in support of retaining
Meadowlark Airport.
Paul Durazo, 8102 Artesia Blvd., Buena Park, stated that he was in
favor of retaining the airport.
Bob Garetson, 4701 Warner, spoke in opposition to a high density
project because he feels that it provokes crime, neighbor
alienation, and the traffic and noise that is created is a hazard.
He said that he feels flying is a freedom that should not be
destroyed.
John Blisson, Santa Ana, pilot, said that when you give up air space
you never get it back and that he supports the preservation of the
Meadowlark Airport and feels that the City should develop it.
Jack Cumbrom, Long Beach, stated that Meadowlark Airport is known
all over the United States and feels that it should not be closed.
Jeff Cardinal, Long Beach, stated that the site that Meadowlark
Airport is located on is unspoiled land and should be preserved.
Marty Annsburg, address not stated, stated that flying is safer than
driving in an automobile and that he feels the airport should be
saved and developed.
There were no other persons present to speak in support or
opposition to the request and the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Silva stated that his major concern was the property
rights of the owner. He feels that the property would appraise at
approximately $20 million. He is not in favor of high density.
Commissioner Schumacher addressed her concerns which included
problems with infrastructure, traffic, the lack of roads to disburse
projected traffic, and sewers. She feels that if the property owner
wants to develop his property he should develop a low density
project. She stated that once the zoning is changed it cannot be
down -zoned so all of the impacts must be considered. She feels that
County and FAA funding for acquisition of the airport should be
explored.
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Commissioner Higgins also felt that the acquisition of the airport
should be further explored. He also felt that a specific plan
should be prepared which would include up to 400 units with
approximately 10 to 15 acres of commercial and a specific plan which
would include 400 to 750 units with approximately 10 to 15 acres of
commercial and senior citizen housing on -site and off -site.
Chairman Pierce said that he would like to see the acquisition of
the airport explored and feels the property owner should pursue a
specific plan.
Commissioner Summerell feels that the acquisition of the airport
should be explored and would like to see a low density residential
development in the area.
Commissioner Livengood requested that a feasibility study be
completed on acquiring the airport (the cost to purchase; cost to
bring the airport up to standards; emergency use of the airport;
impact of Bolsa Chica bluffs on the airport; flight path). He
stated that if the airport is closed he would favor a low density
development with approximately 10 acres of commercial.
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD, SECOND BY PIERCE, TO
DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE A FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR CITY ACQUISITION AND
OPERATION OF THE AIRPORT, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Silva, Schumacher, Higgins, Pierce, Summerell, Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: Leipzig
STRAW VOTE MOTION PASSED
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD, SECOND BY HIGGINS, TO
DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE A SPECIFIC PLAN WHICH WOULD INCLUDE A
MAXIMUM OF 400 UNITS (7 UNITS/ACRE) AND APPROXIMATELY 10 TO 15 ACRES
COMMERCIAL, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Schumacher, Pierce, Summerell, Livengood
NOES: Silva, Higgins
ABSENT: Leipzig
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY HIGGINS, SECOND BY PIERCE, TO DIRECT
STAFF TO PREPARE A SPECIFIC PLAN WHICH WOULD INCLUDE 400 TO 750
UNITS, APPROXIMATELY 10 TO 15 ACRES COMMERCIAL, AND SENIOR CITIZEN
HOUSING EITHER ON -SITE OR OFF -SITE, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Silva, Higgins, Pierce, Schumacher, Livengood
NOES: Summerell
ABSENT: Leipzig
STRAW VOTE MOTION PASSED
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A MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD, SECOND BY PIERCE, TO CONTINUE LAND
USE ELEMENT AMENDMENT 87-2C AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT 87-2, BY
THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Silva, Schumacher, Higgins, Pierce, Summerell, Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: Leipzig
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
A MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD, SECOND BY PIERCE, TO DIRECT STAFF TO:
1. Prepare Feasibility Study for City acquisition and operation
of airport.
2. Prepare Specific Plan which would include a maximum of 400
units (7 units per acre) and approximately 10 to 15 acres
Commercial.
3. Prepare Specific Plan which would include 400 to 750 units,
approximately 10 to 15 acres Commercial, and senior citizen
housing either on -site or off -site.
BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Silva, Schumacher, Higgins, Pierce, Summerell, Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: Leipzig
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
A MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD, SECOND BY SILVA, TO SCHEDULE DATE
FOR CONTINUANCE TO THE SEPTEMBER 22, 1987 PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Silva, Schumacher, Higgins, Pierce, Summerell, Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: Leipzig
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
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M. WESTLAND COMPANY PERIMETER BLOCK WALL - Comments were made
by Les Evans, City Engineer, regarding the perimeter block
wall on the Westland property. He stated that the Westland
property had been graded as a retention basin and that any
water accumulation would flood the industrial site first. He
stated that the study will determine whether there will be
even distribution of water if the channel overtops and if not
that the wall will need to be modified. He also stated that
Phase I improvements on the channel had been approved and
funded and that they would be completed by the fall.
Staff informed the Commission that additional entitlements
would be required on the site and that evaulations would be
completed first before any more permits were issued.
F. PENDING ITEMS
None
G. PLANNING COMMISSION ITEMS
None
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I. ADJOURNMENT
A MOTION WAS MADE BY PIERCE, SECOND BY LIVENGOOD, AT 10:20 PM,
TO ADJOURN TO THE STUDY SESSION ON THE INVENTORY AND
DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE AREA NORTH OF THE PIER SCHEDULED FOR
6:00 PM IN ROOM B-8, AUGUST 4, 1987, AND THEN TO THE REGULARLY
SCHEDULED PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:00 PM, AUGUST 4,
1987, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Silva, Schumacher,
Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: Leipzig
APPROVED:
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Mike A ams, Secretary
Higgins, Pierce, Summerell,
nV M: Pierce, Chairman
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