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Home My WebLink About1990-12-18APPROVED 3-5-91 MINUTES HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION TUESDAY, DECEMBER 18, 1990 Council Chambers 2000 Main Street Huntington Beach, REGULAR MEETING - 7:00 PM PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - Civic Center California P P P P P ROLL CALL: Shomaker, Mountford, Williams, Ortega, Kirkland, P P Bourguignon, Leipzig A. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS (4 MINUTES TIME TO OTHERS) Anyone wishing submit a form to speak prior to Hearing items. No action can be Commission on this date, unless None B. PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS B-1 FINAL TRACT 9908 - REVISED: PER PERSON, NO DONATING OF to speak must fill out and Oral Communication or Public taken by the Planning agendized. APPLICANT: CITY OF HUNTINGTON BEACH LOCATION: Tract 9908, North of Slater Avenue, West of Gothard, Lots 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 and 18. Revised Final Tract 9908 is a request to amend the conditions of approval for the Final Tract Map to allow for second story additions to the single story homes which abut the City Corporation Yard. The original tract map, approved in 1978, limited the homes adjacent to the City Corporation Yard to single story structures. . STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Staff recommends that the Planning Commission approve Revised Final Tract Map 9908 with findings and modified condition of approval. Mike Adams, Director of Community Development suggested that the Commission continue the item in order for staff to further clarify the legal requirements. A MOTION WAS MADE BY WILLIAMS, SECOND BY ORTEGA, TO CONTINUE REVISED FINAL TRACT 9908 TO THE JANUARY 22, 1991 MEETING, IN ORDER FOR STAFF TO FURTHER CLARIFY THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: AYES: Mountford, Williams, Ortega, Kirkland, Bourguignon, Leipzig NOES: None ABSENT: Shomaker ABSTAIN: None MOTION PASSED B-2 SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO 90-10/SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO, 89-4(R)/PLANNED SIGN PROGRAM NO, 89-3(R): APPLICANT: Superior Electrical Advertising LOCATION: 19300-19324 Beach Boulevard (Eastside of Beach Boulevard approximately 535 feet north of Yorktown Avenue) Special Sign Permit No. 90-10 is a request to replace an existing code conforming (7 foot high/35 square foot) center identification monument sign with a new 13 foot - 8 inch high/80 square foot center identification monument sign in lieu of the code permitted seven (7) foot high, 50 square foot monument sign. Special Sign Permit No. 89-4(R) is a request to delete a condition of approval which prohibited a business identification (wall) sign on the west elevation of the E1 Pollo Loco Restaurant. The applicant is requesting a 20.25 square foot business identification (wall) sign on the west elevation of the building. Planned Sign Program No. 89-3(R) is a request to amend the planned sign program for the Autoplex Center to enlarge the existing center identification monument sign, add a new business identification wall sign and enlarge the existing E1 Pollo Loco monument sign. STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Planning staff recommends that the Planning Commission deny Special Sign Permit No. 90-10, Special Sign Permit No. 89-4(R) and Planned Sign Program No. 89-3(R) with findings. THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED. Carl Middleton, Cardinal Development, stated that as the developer of the center he realized a mistake had been made by letting the project move ahead without adequate signage. Mr. Middleton said the PC Minutes - 12/18/90 -2- (8108d) businesses in the center are not surviving as well as they had projected. He feels the businesses are definitely not doing well, and considers it a hardship. John Adams, President Priority Auto Care, stated he was concerned with the quality of signage along Beach Boulevard. Mr. Adams said that he is in the back of the center and cannot be seen. He also stated that he has location maps on his advertisements, yet customers still complain that they cannot find his establishment. Eddie Abderrahman, 19308 Beach Blvd., Ste. "C", stated that he has had his business in the center for five (5) months and he is failing because of inadequate signage. Bryan K. Ras, 19308 Beach Blvd., said that his customers complain they cannot find his business and, therefore, he is failing. Mel Berkley, Manager Quick Lube, stated that he has the same complaints as the previous speakers. He said he is sustaining a loss because of lack of signage. Mr. Berkley also said that all the businesses are trying very hard, and they are quality businesses. Mathew Ahearn, E1 Pollo Loco, stated that because of the poor signage his franchise is failing compared to other stores in the chain at similar type locations. Ken McCarty, 19132 Huntington St., stated that his shop has no visibility from Beach Boulevard. He said customers cannot find his shop, so he has to spend lots of money advertising so they can find him. Stan Janocha, 20781 Hunter, representing Superior Electrical Advertising, stated that they would not work on a sign or propose a sign that was not aesthetically pleasing. He stated that the tenants need better signage, because business is not very good. A discussion ensued among the Commissioners. Some Commissioners felt that it was poor planning on the part of the original development and site layout, but they must try to help the tenants who are caught in the middle of the situation. Others felt that they must stand by the sign code, not allowing the special requests but allow the applicants to go back to staff to come up with alternative sign proposals which would provide improved signage or a compromise solution. A MOTION WAS MADE BY WILLIAMS, SECOND BY ORTEGA TO DENY SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO. 90-10, SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO. 89-4(R)AND PLANNED SIGN PROGRAM NO. 89-3(R) WITH FINDINGS, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: AYES: Williams, Ortega, Leipzig NOES: Shomaker, Mountford, Kirkland, Bourguignon ABSENT: None ABSTAIN: None MOTION FAILED PC Minutes - 12/18/90 -3- (8108d) A MOTION WAS MADE BY KIRKLAND, SECOND BY SHOMAKER TO APPROVE SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO. 90-10, SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO. 89-4(R)AND PLANNED SIGN PROGRAM NO. 89-3(R) WITH FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: AYES: Shomaker, Mountford, Kirkland NOES: Williams, Ortega, Bourguignon, Leipzig ABSENT: None ABSTAIN: None MOTION FAILED A MOTION WAS MADE BY WILLIAMS, SECOND BY ORTEGA TO CONTINUE SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO. 90-10, SPECIAL SIGN PERMIT NO. 89-4(R)AND PLANNED SIGN PROGRAM NO. 89-3(R) TO THE JANUARY 8, 1991 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, IN ORDER FOR STAFF TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT AND COME UP WITH AN ALTERNATE PLAN, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: AYES: Shomaker, Mountford, Williams, Ortega, Kirkland, Bourguignon, Leipzig NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAIN: None MOTION PASSED FIRE HAZARD/FIRE PREVENTION/EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES REPORT: Presenter: Departing Fire Chief Ray Picard Fire Chief Picard gave an exit interview to the Commission. Chief Picard gave a slide presentation as he explained the progress being made within the Fire Department. The Planning Commission expressed their appreciation to Chief Raymond C. Picard by adopting Resolution No. 1441. A MOTION WAS MADE BY ORTEGA, SECOND BY LEIPZIG, TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 1441 IN APPRECIATION OF CHIEF RAYMOND C. PICARD'S YEARS OF SERVICE, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: AYES: Shomaker, Mountford, Williams, Ortega, Kirkland, Bourguignon, Leipzig NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAIN: None �01WO `� � PC Minutes - 12/18/90 -4- (8108d) u 1 ri, RESOLUTION NO. 1441 A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF HUNTINGTON, CALIFORNIA, EXPRESSING APPRECIATION TO CHIEF RAYMOND C. fICARD WHEREAS, Chief Raymond C. Picard has from March 5, 1966 through December 24, 1990, faithfully served the City of Huntington Beach as Fire Chief; and WHEREAS, Chief Raymond C. Picard has directed Fire Department review of many projects brought before the Planning Commission; and WHEREAS, Chief Raymond C. Picard's outstanding knowledge of fire safety has contributed greatly to the Planning Commission's proper review of development projects and has greatly improved the health and safety of the community; and WHEREAS, Chief Raymond C. Picard has provided invaluable service, knowledge and advice to the Planning Commission and Community far beyond the minimum required for the review of development projects, for all of which the Planning Commission is sincerely grateful. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Planning Commission of the City of Huntington Beach acknowledges the outstanding individual performance of Chief Raymond C. Picard and expresses its deepest appreciation for his service to the City of Huntington Beach. PASSED, APPROVED, AND ADOPTED this eighteenth day of December, 1990. Chairwoman Geri Ortega Commissioner Shomaker Commissioner Williams Commissioner Leipzig C. CONSENT CALENDAR None D. NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS Vice -Chairman Kirk Kirkland Commissioner Mountford Commissioner Bourguignon Mike Adams, Secretary D-1 PLANNED SIGN PROGRAM NO, 90-15: APPLICANT: ALLISON NAITO LOCATION: 20042 Beach Planned Sign Program No. 90-15 is a request to amend Planned Program No. 84-1 to allow sandblasted wood signs in addition individual channel letter signs as the original planned sign required. PC Minutes - 12/18/90 -5- Sign to program (8108d) STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Staff recommends that the Planning Commission approve Planned Sign Program No. 90-15 with findings and conditions of approval. A MOTION WAS MADE BY KIRKLAND, SECOND BY SHOMAKER TO APPROVE AN AMENDMENT TO PLANNED SIGN PROGRAM NO. 84-1 WITH FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: AYES: Shomaker, Mountford, Ortega, Kirkland, Bourguignon, Leipzig NOES: Williams ABSENT: None ABSTAIN: None MOTION PASSED FINDINGS FOR APPROVAL - PLANNED SIGN PROGRAM NO. 90-15: 1. The request to amend the planned sign program to permit sandblasted wood signs on the office building does reflect the requirements of a planned sign program and the intent of the sign code. 2. The request to amend the planned sign program to permit sandblasted wood signs on the office building will provide signs that will be compatible with the existing on -site signs, the requirements and intent of a planned sign program and sign code. 3. The request to amend the planned sign program to permit sandblasted wood signs on the office building will be compatible with signs in the surrounding commercial vicinity and with the sign criteria as outlined in Planned Sign Program No. 84-1. CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL - PLANNED SIGN PROGRAM NO, 90-15: 1. The site plan and elevations received and dated October 17, 1990 shall be the conceptually approved layout with the following modifications: a. Only the two first floor tenants with parking lot frontage shall be permitted to have wall signage. b. The future location of a second sandblasted sign shall comply with Page three (3) of Attachment No. 3. 2. All signs on the building shall be sandblasted wood signs. 3. Sandblasted wood signs shall have white letters and trim on a dark brown background. 4. Planned Sign Program No. 90-15 shall only apply to the building on Parcel 3. PC Minutes - 12/18/90 -6- (8108d) 5. All other signage permitted or prohibited by Planned Sign Program No. 84-1 shall remain unaffected by this entitlement. E. DISCUSSION ITEMS The Commission discussed the Huntington Beach Central Park Equestrian Center. They requested staff to bring the item back to the January 8, 1991 meeting as an agendized item so they could discuss it throroughly. They also requested staff to inform the applicant so that she may be involved in the discussion. F. PLANNING COMMISSION INQUIRIES None G. PLANNING COMMISSION ITEMS Commissioner Ortega questioned staff regarding the Casablanca Fan signs. She stated that they had been cited, and what was the status. Counsel informed the Commission that the matter was pending litigation and that was all the information she could give at this time. H. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ITEMS None I. ADJOURNMENT A MOTION WAS MADE BY WILLIAMS, SECOND BY LEIPZIG, TO ADJOURN TO A 5:00 P.M. STUDY SESSION (AGENDA REVIEW, SUB -COMMITTEE REPORT), ON JANUARY 8, 1991 AND THEN TO THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING AT 7:00 P.M. BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE: AYES: Shomaker, Mountford, Bourguignon, Leipzig NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAIN: None MOTION PASSED /kj 1 Williams, Ortega, Kirkland, APPROVED BY: Mike Adams, ecretary PlanA,kng Commiss on Chairperson PC Minutes - 12/18/90 -7- (8108d)