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HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY, APRIL 27, 2004
HUNTINGTON BEACH CIVIC CENTER
2000 MAIN STREET, HUNTINGTON BEACH, CALIFORNIA 92648
5:15 P.M. - ROOM B-8 — CITY HALL LOWER LEVEL
CALL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER
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ROLL CALL: Thomas, Scandura, Ray, Davis, Shomaker, Dingwall, Livengood
(Vice Chair Ray arrived at 5:19 p.m.; Commissioner Shomaker
arrived at 5:45 p.m.; Commissioner Scandura arrived at 6.00 p.m.)
AGENDA APPROVAL — APPROVED 5-0-2 (Shomaker, Scandura — Absent)
A. STUDY SESSION ITEMS
1. GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT #04-01 (NATIONAL POLLUTION DISCHARGE
ELIMINATION SYSTEM - NPDES) — Jason Kelley
Jason Kelly, Assistant Planner, provided a staff report that outlined the proposed
changes affecting Elements of the General Plan including Land Use, Environmental
Resources/Conservation, Circulation, Utilities and Growth Management.
Discussion ensued on the following sections of the Legislative Draft:
Environmental Resources/Conservation Element
➢ Water Resources and Water Quality Management
■ Is Blackbird Pond located near the Shipley Nature Center considered an inland
lake?
■ Discussion on groundwater -fed lakes
➢ Policy ERC 6.1.3 and 6.1.5 ("Best Management Practices" defined by staff, and
discussion on substituting the term "approved")
➢ Policy ERC 6.1.9 (strike language "where appropriate and feasible")
'Circulation Element
➢ Implementation Programs/Development Review
■ Discussion of maintaining low, overhanging plant material
Utilities Element
➢ U 1.3.4 (discussion of what is considered "economically feasible")
➢ U 1.4.3 (add "or" and keep "benefit assessment districts" recommended to strike)
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Growth Management Element
➢ GM 5.1.3 (discussion of what is considered "economically feasible")
➢ I -GM 5 c) (discussed substituting the term "encourage" for "require")
➢ I -GM 7 a) (discussed evaluation of drainage fees every "three" instead of "five"
years)
2. AGENDA REVIEW (UPDATE ON ALL AGENDA ITEMS) — Scott Hess
Scott Hess, Planning Manager, identified late communication on Public Hearing Item
No. B-1 (Pacific City), and informed the Commission of a correction made to the staff
report for Non -Public Hearing Item No. D-1 (General Plan Conformance No. 04-01).
B. PLANNING COMMISSION COMMITTEE REPORTS - None
PUBLIC COMMENTS — Regarding Study Session portion of Meeting - None
6:30 P.M. — RECESS FOR DINNER
7:00 P.M. — COUNCIL CHAMBERS
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
CALL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER
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ROLL CALL: Thomas, Scandura, Ray, Davis, Shomaker, Dingwall, Livengood
AGENDA APPROVAL
A MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD, SECOND BY DINGWALL, TO MOVE AGENDA
ITEM NO. D-1 FORWARD, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Thomas, Scandura, Ray, Davis, Shomaker, Dingwall, Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
A MOTION WAS MADE BY THOMAS, SECONDED BY SCANDURA, TO APPROVE THE
REVISED MEETING AGENDA FOR APRIL 27, 2004, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Thomas, Scandura, Ray, Davis, Shomaker, Dingwall, Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
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AGENDA ITEMS WILL BE LISTED IN THEIR ORIGINAL ORDER
A. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Jim Adams, Los Angeles/Orange Counties Building & Construction Trades Council representing
local unions, spoke in support of Public Hearing Item No. B-1 (Pacific City). After personal
review of the project, he discussed his excitement for building trade unions interested in local
jobs, stating that the developer is committed to using union workers. He also discussed a
stimulated economy through tax revenue generation.
Sylvia Carr, representing the Pacific City Action Coalition (PCAC), voiced concerns related to
Public Hearing Item No. B-1 (Pacific City). She discussed possible conflicts of interest among
the third party consultants being considered for soil remediation, and outlined the PCAC's
objections,to Chevron's power and influence over the project and the city. She discussed a
lawsuit filed in Texas about a pipeline that carried diesel fuel, causing contaminated soil. She
also discussed clean up on the Pacific City site by Chevron, and Chevron's secrecy and lack of
disclosure relating to soil contaminants.
Doug Traub, Conference & Visitors Bureau, spoke in support of Public Hearing Item No. B-1
(Pacific City). He discussed employment for local trade unions, and how the project will- .
increase tourism in the City along side the Hyatt and Waterfront Hilton hotels, and future Bella
Terra and Strand developments. He urged the Commission to close the 31-acre gap and -
approve the request.
David Ball, Iron Workers, spoke in support of Public Hearing Item No. B-1 (Pacific City), and tax
revenue generation.
Paul Cross, Huntington Street, voiced concerns related to Public Hearing Item No. B-1 (Pacific
City). He discussed project delays, traffic, neighborhood intrusions, oil overlay districts; deed
restrictions prohibiting onsite drilling, an oil island and dedication of a 20-ft corridor for public'
access. He also discussed storm water treatment and a downward slope of the land at 18t
Street and Atlanta Avenue, and Atlanta and Pacific View Avenue. -
Kenny Scheidecker, Iron Workers Local 433, spoke in support of Public Hearing Item No. B-1
(Pacific City).
Fred Speaker, former -Planning Commission member, spoke in support of Public Hearing Item
No. B-1 (Pacific'City). He discussed his experience and knowledge in land use planning, and
showed support for suggestions made by Commissioner Livengood. He complimented staff on
an excellent job studying the project, and discussed establishment of the Downtown Specific
Plan in 1995. ' He stated that the City will benefit fronm'this project, and that the project is -not
overbuilt.
Pat Davis, representing Makar Properties, spoke in support of Public Hearing Item No. B-1
(Pacific City). She complimented staff on an excellent job studying the project, and provided a
background of her involvement in various civic groups and committees. As a public relations
representative for Makar Properties, she discussed the goals of the Outreach Program, and how
information is provided to the community via newsletter, website, homeowners associations,
citizens groups, civic groups, merchants groups, service clubs, etc. She stated that Makar has
walked neighborhoods, taken comments, held public meetings, and opened a Discovery Center
at 1st Street and Pacific Coast Highway. Lastly, she stated that the City's cleanup standards are
higher than other surrounding cities, and that the Fire Department is handling soil remediation
well.
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Eileen Murphy, Huntington Beach, voiced concerns related to Public Hearing Item No. B-1
(Pacific City). She requested that the applicant guarantee cleanup of urban runoff on site, hire
an independent contractor for soil remediation, and follow up on affordable housing if not built
on site.
Thomas Cross, Scenario Drive, spoke in support of Public Hearing Item No. B-1 (Pacific City).
Hart Keeble, Egret Lane, spoke in support of Public Hearing Item No. B-1 (Pacific City).
Adam Whitlow, Applewood Circle, spoke in support of Public Hearing Item No. B-1 (Pacific
City).
Rob Jason, Waterfall Circle, voiced concerns related to Public Hearing Item No. B-1 (Pacific
City). He discussed traffic on Atlanta Avenue between Huntington and Delaware Streets,
sidewalk placement on the north side of Atlanta between Vt Street and Huntington, and a right ,
hand turn lane at the intersection of Atlanta and Huntington.
Bob Traver, Coho Drive, spoke in support of Public Hearing Item No. B-1 (Pacific City). He
discussed dining and shopping, and urged the Commission give the project a final blessing and
move forward on development, stating that the City was on top of the list for beach community
locations.
John Earl, Huntington Beach, voiced concerns related to Public Hearing Item No. B-1 (Pacific
City). He discussed soil safety and Fire Department authority, stating that a community group
choice is unprecedented. He also discussed labor unions and public distrust of staff and
developers, and urged the Commission to not rush soil safety.
Garry Brown, Orange County Coastkeeper, spoke in support of Public Hearing Item No. B-1
(Pacific City). He also voiced concerns related to urban runoff and treatment, numeric
standards for beach discharge and drainage, and a regional approach to water quality with a
financial mechanism that really works.
Michael Gagnet, Makar Properties, thanked the community for publicly speaking on Public
Hearing Item No. B-1 (Pacific City). He discussed Makar's confidence with the Fire
Department's authority to chose a third party consultant for soil remediation. He also discussed
NPDES permit requirements that will be met, and that Makar will participate in a regional
solution for water quality and treatment. He called the project a vision in full conformance with
all plans (General Plan, Local Coastal Plan, etc.) He was available for questions.
WITH NO ONE ELSE PRESENT TO SPEAK, ORAL COMMUNICATIONS WAS CLOSED.
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B. PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS - PROCEDURE: Commission Disclosure Statement(s), Staff
Report Presentation, Commission Questions, Public Hearing, Discussion/Action.
B-1.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED: TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO.
Applicant/Property Owner: Makallon Atlanta Huntington Beach, LLC, Ethen
Thacher, 4100 MacArthur Blvd., Ste 200, Newport Beach, CA 92660 Request:
TTM: A request to subdivide approximately 31.5 acres into three parcels for
purposes of developing a mixed -use project. One of the parcels will be for
residential condominium purposes and the other two parcels are for a
commercialloffice/hotel development. In the residential portion of the project,
there will be a 2.0-acre village park easement for public usage as well as a
lettered lot for a private access road. CUP/CDP: A request to develop a mixed -
use project consisting of retail, office, restaurant, cultural, and entertainment uses
(up to 240,000 sq. ft.), a 400 room, eight -story hotel, spa and health club; a 2.0-
acre open space/park easement; 516 condominium units above subterranean
parking and associated infrastructure including the extension of Pacific View
Avenue. The request also includes outdoor dining, alcohol beverage sales, live
entertainment indoors and outdoors, and dancing within the proposed restaurants
and hotel development; carts and kiosks within the commercial and hotel
development; and valet service, parking entrance gates, attendant booths, and/or
collection of fees within the below grade parking structures. In addition, the
request includes a shared parking analysis which includes a reduction in the
number of parking spaces required for the mixed -use- project (retail, office,
restaurant, cultural, entertainment, hotel, and spa uses), and tandem parking
spaces. Included in the request is to permit development on a site that has a
grade differential greater than three (3) feet from the low to the high point
(approximately 25' from the lowest point to its highest point); and for development
in the Coastal Zone. Lastly, the request includes any additional soil remediation
activities for the site to complement and complete the prior and on -going
remediation activities, and may include but is not limited to excavation, temporary
stockpiling, and on -site remediation. Three Special Permit'requests are as
follows: 1) to allow commercial buildings to encroach.into the required setbacks
along Pacific Coast Highway and Pacific View Avenue; 2) to allow three driveway
ramps into the residential below grade parking structures at a slope of 15% in lieu
of maximum 10%; and 3) to permit retaining walls and private patio walls in the
required perimeter residential setback areas. A Conceptual Master Plan is
included that provides an overall buildout plan of the commercial and residential
portions of the site. Location: 21002 Pacific Coast Highway (31-acre site
bounded by Pack Coast Highway, First Street, Atlanta Avenue, and Huntington
Street). Project Planner: Scott Hess, Planning Manager
STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Motion to: A) "Approve Tentative Tract Map No.
16338, Conditional'Use Permit No. 02-20, Special Permit No. 02-04, Coastal
Development Permit No. 02-12, and the Pacific City Conceptual Master Plan with
Findings, Staff Suggested Modifications, and Suggested Conditions Of Approval;"
and, B) "Approve CEQA Statement of Findings and Fact with a Statement of
Overriding Considerations."
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The Commission made the following disclosures: Commissioner Thomas spoke
with City staff, Eileen Murphy and Julie Bixby; Commissioner Scandura spoke
with Richard Harlow and Ethen Thacher, Makar Properties; Vice Chair Ray spoke
with Pacific City Action Coalition members Mike Churchin and John Sisker, Jim
Adams, Building Trades Council, Merrilee Madrigal, Steve Bone and Shawn
Milburn, Robert Mayer Corporation, Mark Bixby, Dr. Jan Vandersloot, Meg
Vaughn, California Coastal Commission, Larry Porter, Ethen Thacher, Richard
Harlow, Fire Chief Duane Olson, Transportation Manager Bob Stachelski and
other City staff; Commissioner Shomaker spoke with Richard Harlow and
informed a concerned member of the public that she has no conflicts of interest
related to the project, citing guidelines provided by the 2003 Mayor's Workshop;
Commissioner Livengood spoke with Richard Harlow, Ethen Thacher, Geraldine
Lucas, Scott Hess, Gary Gorman, Little Shell Project Manager and Gary Brown,
Orange County Coastkeeper; Chair Davis spoke with Richard Harlow and John
Erskine representing the applicant, Geraldine Lucas, Scott Hess and Joey
Racano.
Scott Hess briefly outlined the information provided in Staff Report B-1, including
technical information and late communication.
Commissioner Dingwall asked that the Commission reconsider a straw vote
taken at the April 13, 2004 meeting related to affordable housing.
Discussion ensued regarding state housing standards related to tenant ratio and
proportion.
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY DINGWALL, SECONDED BY RAY,
TO ADD LANGUAGE "THE SAME RATIO AND PROPORTION OF 1, 2 AND 3
BEDROOM UNITS, AND WILL REMAIN" TO CONDITION #2.b.3) ON
ATTACHMENT 1.14.
AYES: Thomas, Scandura, Ray, Davis, Shomaker, Dingwall, Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
Commissioner Scandura voiced concerns about whether or not the Ocean View
School District (OVSD) had met with the applicant to discuss the potential for
affordable housing within their district. Staff stated that meetings have been held
with the applicant's affordable housing consultant, and that an aggressive search
is in process for affordable housing sites throughout the City.
Vice Chair Ray referenced two archeological sites located on the project site
(ORA 1582 and ORA 149), and discussed information located within the CEQA
Act, Section 21083.2, Paragraph C that discusses mitigation measures, project
funding and time limits. Commission Counsel Mulvihill stated that the applicant
agrees to 100% funding.
Commissioner Dingwall asked if affordable housing on a medium density site,
i.e., 15-units or less, qualifies the developer for a density bonus. He also voiced
concerns related to affordable housing requirements for a high -density
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development, and how it will affect the OVSD. Staff explained that no specific
site has been identified for affordable housing in the OVSD.
Commissioner Scandura asked about a draft affordable housing agreement, and
adding a condition that guarantees a citywide search for affordable housing.
Commissioner Livengood referenced a condition within the CUP that speaks to
project impacts upon school districts.
Commissioner Dingwall discussed information provided by the OVSD on how
affordable housing may impact their district. He also asked staff to identify the
number of projects with affordable housing elements that are never actually built.
Staff explained the developer's affordable housing requirements, including the
difference between what is required, and what qualifies a developer to receive a
density bonus for additional units on a particular project. Staff also stated that
Makar has to provide 39 units within a redevelopment area.
Commissioner Thomas asked if the applicant was agreeable to scattering
affordable units in an effort to decrease impacts to associated school districts.
Staff stated that any project proposed to meet affordable housing requirements
off -site, depending on its size, will require entitlement and will come before the
Planning Commission for approval. Staff added that any project must be
consistent with the goals of the General Plan in land use, density, etc., and that in
1996 input was collected from school districts on potential project impacts, and
protections were put in place. Lastly, staff added it is not possible to condition a
project that is not before the Commission, and that a draft affordable housing
agreement makes sense because no specific site has been identified.
Chair Davis spoke against setting precedence on where affordable housing units
can be built.
Commissioner Scandura referenced project -related concerns voiced by the
OVSD in a letter dated April 13,: 2004.
Commissioner Livengood referenced the 2-1 formula used when affordable units
are built on property outside a redevelopment area. Staff explained that projects
with 9 single units or less would be reviewed by the Zoning Administrator (ZA)
through plan check, and that projects with 10 single units or more would come
before the Planning Commission for approval.: .
Vice Chair Ray asked if action taken on the CUP includes approval of the
Affordable Housing Plan. Staff confirmed, referencing a condition noted on
Attachment 1.14, item b.
Chair Davis discussed the economic realities behind building affordable housing
and bonus factors, asking why staff isn't recommending that the applicant build
off -site so that the requirement doubles? Staff explained the reasons
recommending building affordable units on -site, including the distribution factor
around the community, affordable units similar to other market rate units,
amenities, etc., and offsite development being concentrated within certain areas
creating a lack of mix.
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Richard Harlow, consultant, discussed the existing market rate for apartments
within the OVSD, the limited number of available parcels in the City, and the 60-
year affordable period with applicable rent freeze options. He stated that no
approvals on affordable housing were required tonight and suggested minute
action to staff when appropriate.
Commissioner Scandura voiced concerns about conditioning the developer to
find a multi -unit property off -site given the high number of affordable units
required for such a large project.
Vice Chair Ray discussed purchase and rental plans, targeting a buyer for
medium income housing and financing options. He recommended that 50% of
the affordable units be for purchase only and located on the Pacific City site, with
the remaining 50% rental units offsite possibly through rehabilitation of existing
affordable units.
Commissioner Shomaker discussed zoning and topping commercial units.
Commissioner Dingwall asked about tenant's rights for individuals who reside in
existing affordable units purchased for rehabilitation, and about enforcing the
number of tenants within each dwelling. Staff stated that the number of persons
who reside within a particular dwelling is regulated by the statewide housing code
and is enforced by Code Enforcement. Staff also explained that existing tenants,
if qualified for low-income housing, can stay or evacuate the premises when their
lease expires.
Michael Gagnet stated that Makar Properties is not opposed to the option of
affordable housing off -site or outside the redevelopment area.
Commission Shomaker asked if mobile homes qualify as affordable housing.
Staff confirmed.
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD, SECONDED BY
THOMAS, TO ADD CONDITION #2.b.5 ON ATTACHMENT 1.14 BY
INCLUDING LANGUAGE SUBMITTED BY COMMISSIONER SCANDURA
REGARDING A CITIWIDE SEARCH FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AYES: Thomas, Scandura, Ray, Davis, Shomaker, Dingwall, Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
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A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD, SECONDED BY
DAVIS, TO AMEND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AGREEMENT
(ATTACHMENT 11) BY ALLOWING THE APPLICANT THE CHOICE OF
BUILDING 39 AFFORDABLE UNITS ON SITE OR 78 UNITS OUTSIDE THE
PROJECT AREA OR WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA, PROVIDED
THE UNITS HAVE THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE, CHARACTERISTICS,
ETC.
AYES:
Thomas, Scandura, Davis, Shomaker, Dingwall, Livengood
NOES:
Ray
ABSENT:
None
ABSTAIN:
None
MOTION PASSED
Vice Chair Ray and staff discussed the Pedestrian Accessibility Plan identified on
Attachment 1.17, Item 4.a.
Commissioner Thomas discussed adding language related to Title 24
requirements for 2005 (CO2 sensors, variable volume exhaust fans, outdoor
lighting) to Attachment 1.17, Item 1.b. Michael Gagnet stated that building
permits are dictated by Title 24 regulations at the time they are issued.
Vice Chair Ray asked if CO2 sensors and variable volume exhaust -fans are
required. Staff confirmed. - -
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY THOMAS, SECONDED BY RAY,
TO ADD LANGUAGE TO CONDITION #1.b. ON ATTACHMENT 1.17
RELATED TO TITLE 24 COMPLIANCE AND USE OF ENERGY EFFICIENT,
PARKING GARAGE EQUIPMENT.
AYES: Thomas, Scandura, Ray, Davis, Shomaker, Dingwall, Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
Commissioner Livengood discussed adding condition #4.e related to traffic
calming measures on Attachment 1.18. Chair Davis suggested discussing traffic
calming measures later in the meeting.
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY SCANDURA, SECONDED BY
THOMAS, TO ADD THE TERM "POCKET PARK" TO CONDITION #4.c. ON
ATTACHMENT 1.18.
AYES: Thomas, Scandura, Ray, Davis, Shomaker, Dingwall, Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
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Commissioner Scandura suggested the median identified on Attachment 1.18,
4.d be solidly landscaped.
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY SCANDURA, SECONDED BY
THOMAS, TO ADD "SOLID LANDSCAPING" LANGUAGE TO CONDITION
#4.d. ON ATTACHMENT 1.18.
Discussion ensued regarding pedestrian access at Atlanta Avenue and Alabama
Street.
Vice Chair Ray suggested removing the condition and discussed his intentions of
drafting a minute action to Council regarding relocation of the proposed traffic
signal identified at the intersection of First Street and Atlanta Avenue.
Commissioner Shomaker suggested breaks or walkways in the solid landscape
median that would allow pedestrians to cross at certain points.
Bob Stachelski, Transportation Manager, discussed the safety issues behind
allowing pedestrians to cross at the identified median and stated his support for
the Commission drafting a minute action to Council asking for a review of
pedestrian access alternatives.
Commissioner Dingwall called attention to Attachment 4.18 and the Pacific
Electric Right -of -Way, suggesting that related information be considered when
drafting a minute action regarding pedestrian access locations.
Commissioner Livengood suggested making the condition all-inclusive,
referencing condition #5.d. on Attachment 1.18 as another condition calling for
traffic calming measures.
Chair Davis suggested voting on the original motion that called for a solid,
landscaped median.
Staff recommended that the Commission keep the conditions intact, explaining
that modifications to the project not considered within the Pedestrian Access
Plan, Landscape Plan, etc., should be brought forth through minute action to the
City Council.
Commission Scandura restated his original motion to include a solid landscaped
median, and added, "unless otherwise determined by the Public Works
Department and/or Public Works Commission." The vote was as follows:
AYES: -Thomas, Scandura, Ray, Davis, Shomaker, Dingwall, Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
Commissioner Scandura suggested adding a condition that would call for use of
drought resistant and/or Califomia-native landscaping material.
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Staff reminded the Commission of the City's water efficient landscape ordinance,
and referenced information provided on Attachment 1.19; Item 6, indicating the
Design Review Board's final role in review and approval of landscaping. Staff
also suggested adding language that permits the applicant to use drought
resistant landscape material that is consistent with approved landscaping
material identified in the Downtown Specific Plan.
Chair Davis asked if the applicant was agreeable to staffs suggested language.
Michael Gagnet confirmed.
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY SCANDURA, SECONDED BY RAY,
TO ADD CONDITION 94.e. ON ATTACHMENT 1.18 RELATED TO USE OF
CALIFORNIA NATIVE AND/OR DROUGHT RESISTANT PLANTS
CONSISTENT WITH LANDSCAPE PALLET REQUIREMENTS OF THE
DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN.
AYES: Thomas, Scandura, Ray, Davis, Shomaker, Dingwall, Livengood
NOES: None ' _ -
ABSENT:. None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD, SECONDED BY
DAVIS, TO ADD THE TERM "POCKET PARK" TO CONDITION #5.f. ON
ATTACHMENT 1.19.
AYES: Thomas, Scandura, Ray, Davis, Shomaker, Dingwall, Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD, SECONDED BY
SHOMAKER, .TO -STRIKE LANGUAGE RELATED TO FREE PARKING ON
ATTACHMENT 1.19, ITEM #7.
Discussion ensued regarding free parking offered in commercial parking
structures downtown.
Vice Chair Ray suggested amending the motion by changing the number of self-
parking.spaces from 500 to 700.
Mr. Gagnet cited other tourist attractions that use 500 as a base number, stating
that Makar Properties would be opposed to increasing the number to 700.
Staff expressed support for the parking conditions proposed. -Commissioner
Thomas concurred with staff.
Vice Chair Ray voiced support for modifying the condition by allowing 15-minutes
of free parking instead of 30.
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Commissioner Dingwall suggested increasing the number of self -parking spaces
by decreasing the number of reserve spaces in the valet parking area.
Commissioner Livengood pointed out that the condition calls for at least 500 self -
parking spaces, and that it should remain flexible according to demand and the
customer service goals of the operator.
The motion to strike "free parking" language was restated, and the vote taken as
follows:
AYES: Scandura, Davis, Shomaker, Dingwall, Livengood
NOES: Thomas, Ray
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY THOMAS, SECONDED BY RAY,
TO ADD TRAFFIC CALMING LANGUAGE AS PROPOSED BY STAFF TO
CONDITION #5.e. ON ATTACHMENT 1.19.
Discussion ensued about the applicant's responsibility to fund 59% of the
proposed intersection improvement costs. Commissioner Dingwall suggested
amending the motion by raising the applicant's financial commitment from 59% to
100%.
Vice Chair Ray asked staff to explain how they arrived at 59%, and who is
responsible for funding the remaining 41%. Staff explained that the proposed
project is expected to generate 59% of new traffic in the area, and that other area
developers pay shares through traffic impact and associated fees. Staff also
explained that street improvements for that specific area were planned prior to
the applicant's request for entitlement.
The motion was restated, and the vote taken as follows:
AYES: Thomas, Scandura, Ray, Davis, Shomaker, Dingwall, Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY RAY, SECONDED BY THOMAS,
TO ADD TRAFFIC CALMING LANGUAGE TO CONDITION #5.d. ON
ATTACHMENT 1.18.
Staff requested that the Commission include language that makes reference to a
mitigation measure in the project EIR. Vice Chair Ray agreed.
The vote was taken as follows:
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AYES:
Thomas, Scandura, Ray, Davis, Shomaker, Dingwall, Livengood
NOES:
None
ABSENT:
None
ABSTAIN:
None
MOTION PASSED
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY RAY, SECONDED BY DINGWALL,
TO REQUIRE 700 SELF -PARKING SPACES AS IDENTIFIED IN CONDITION
#7 ON ATTACHMENT 1.19.
AYES:
Thomas, Ray, Dingwall
NOES:
Scandura, Davis, Shomaker, Livengood
ABSENT:
None
ABSTAIN:
None
MOTION FAILED
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY RAY, SECONDED BY DINGWALL,
TO ADD LANGUAGE "OR AS MODIFIED HEREIN" TO CONDITION #1 ON
ATTACHMENT 1.19.
AYES: Thomas, Scandura, Ray, Davis, Dingwall, Livengood
NOES: Shomaker
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
Commissioner Livengood referenced the proposed condition B on Attachment 2
of the B-1 handout that reduces the number of hotel rooms to lessen parking
demand. He discussed inconsistencies between proposed and code -required
parking, compared area hotel acreage and number of rooms, and discussed the
estimated number of patrons who will park in a downtown structure and walk to
the project.
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD, SECONDED BY
SCANDURA, TO ADD CONDITION "B" ON ATTACHMENT #2 OF THE B-1
HANDOUT AS CONDITION #1.g. ON ATTACHMENT 1.17 REQUIRING THE
APPLICANT TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF HOTEL ROOMS FROM 400 TO
300 TO REDUCE TRAFFIC IMPACTS.
Commissioners Dingwall, Davis and Thomas voiced opposition to the motion.
Commissioner Scandura thanked Commissioner Livengood for providing the
parking demand analysis. He also voiced concerns related to building height and
how high priced hotels along the coast may not meet the goals of the coastal act
to provide a visitor -serving use. He voiced support for reducing the number of
rooms, and that they be offered at an affordable rate.
Vice Chair Ray asked if an "all suites" hotel had been previously considered. Mr.
Gagnet replied no, and reminded the Commission that the parking numbers were
calculated based on an approved shared parking methodology. He also
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discussed the parking surplus of 171 spaces, stating that Makar's request will
remain as proposed.
Vice Chair Ray voiced concerns about massing, and about parking calculations
based on assumptions.
Chair Davis discussed the City's demand for overnight accommodations, and
how the project complies with standards and recommendations identified in the
Downtown Specific Plan. He also discussed how traffic and urban runoff issues
are, and will remain, present in any sizeable development.
Commissioner Livengood asked if the applicant would consider reducing the
commercial or retail area by 20,000 square feet rather than reduce the number of
hotel rooms to gain additional square footage for parking. Mr. Gagnet stated that
if conditioned, Makar would like the choice of either reducing the retail and/or
office square footage, or reduce the number of rooms in order to gain additional
square footage for parking.
Commissioner Livengood amended the motion by allowing the applicant the
choice of where to reduce square footage in order to gain approximately 100
parking spaces.
Commissioner Scandura voiced opposition to reducing retail square footage and
withdrew his second to Commissioner Livengood's amended motion.
Chair Davis seconded the amended motion.
Commissioner Thomas asked if reducing the front setback on Pacific Coast
Highway would help gain additional square footage. Mr. Gagnet replied that
increase in square footage would be minimal.
Staff reminded the Commission that the applicant submitted a revised plan that
reduced the project by approximately 50,000 square feet, resulting in a surplus of
approximately'170 parking'spaces during peak hours. Staff also stated that
parking calculations were based on Urban Land Institute criteria, and although
staff does not support a reduction of square footage, it may behoove the
Commission to allow the applicant a choice in square foot reduction methods to
gain additional parking spaces.
After further consideration, Chair Davis withdrew his second to the motion.
Vice Chair Ray seconded the amended motion.
Richard Harlow explained that the overall difference equates to approximately
13% for joint use parking. He also suggested that staff provide an explanation of
the parking deficit. Staff explained how the proposal equates to a 30-space
shortage from what is required in the Downtown Parking Master Plan.
Commissioners Thomas, Dingwall, Scandura and Davis voiced opposition to the
motion.
Vice Chair Ray referenced the parking demand analysis done by Linscott Law &
Greenspan that addresses proposed land uses for hospitality (hotel/vacation
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ownership intervals) or "timeshares" identified on Attachments 6.14 and 6.15,
asking if "timeshares" are part of the proposal. Staff replied no. Vice Chair Ray
asked if the information should be ignored. Staff replied that timeshares are not
a part of the project narrative. He also asked if Commissioner Livengood would
consider amending his motion to reduce square footage to gain approximately 30
parking spaces, rather than 100.
After further consideration, Commissioner Livengood withdrew his motion.
Discussion ensued regarding noise, truck hauling, pile driving and security on site
during construction.
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD, SECONDED BY
DINGWALL, TO ADD CONDITION #C10 ON ATTACHMENT 2 OF THE B-1
HANDOUT RELATED TO PROJECT HOURS OF CONSTRUCTION AS
FOLLOWS:
Construction: Mon. -Fri. 7AM — 6PM; Clean Up/Securing Area 6PM-8PM
Construction/
Clean Up: Sat. 7AM — 5PM
Pile Driving: Mon. -Fri. 8AM — 6PM
Truck Hauling: Mon. -Fri. 8AM-513M
AYES: Thomas, Scandura, Ray, Davis, Shomaker, Dingwall, Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
Discussion ensued regarding enforcement of code requirements related to truck
hauling and staging.
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY DINGWALL, SECONDED BY
THOMAS, TO ADD LANGUAGE TO CONDITION #C10 ON ATTACHMENT 2
OF THE B-1 HANDOUT RELATED PROJECT HOURS OF CONSTRUCTION,
TRUCK STAGING, AND SUPERVISION BY A 3Rn PARTY CONSULTANT.
AYES: Thomas, Scandura, Ray, Davis, Shomaker, Dingwall, Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD, SECONDED BY
SHOMAKER, TO MODIFY COMMISSIONER LIVENGOOD'S RECOMMENDED
CONDITION 11 BY ADDING LANGUAGE RELATED TO THE RESIDENTIAL
IMPACTS CREATED BY EMPLOYEE ENTRANCE AND PARKING ISSUES AS
FOLLOWS:
Employee entrance and parking plan is to be submitted to the Planning Director
for approval. The entrance and parking is to be located in an area that minimizes
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impacts on residents with a sign posted that reads "All Workers: No Noise
Before 7:00 a.m. If Complaints Occur, You Will Be FineV.
AYES:
Thomas, Scandura, Ray, Davis, Shomaker, Dingwall, Uvengood
NOES:
None
ABSENT:
None
ABSTAIN:
None
MOTION PASSED
Discussion ensued on water quality, with staff supporting the late communication
language submitted by the Public Works Department related to applicant's
submittal of a Water Quality Management Plan.
Commissioner Scandura discussed a regional urban runoff treatment solution for
the First Street watershed storm flows, and asked about the capital required to
initiate the plan. Staff stated that long-term revenue would be required, and that
it expects to earn the revenue through state and/or federal grant programs.
Staff discussed the measures necessary for infiltration, diversion, and permeable
products.
Vice Chair Ray asked staff how if a delineated wetland is found on the project
site it would be affected by the applicant's drainage plan. Staff not sure on this
as there is no delineated wetland on -site, and stated that it may or may not be
incorporated into a drainage pattern because of residual, moist soil.
Vice Chair Ray identified an area north of Pacific View with residual drainage,
asking if it tied in through the big shell wetland, or the channel. Staff stated that
areas he identified are hydrologically separated, and don't connect.
Chair Davis asked who would be responsible for creating -a citywide Urban
Runoff Treatment Trust Fund? Staff replied that a dedicated funding source had
not yet been established, that the request would have to be -heard by a
subcommittee, and ultimately receive City Council approval. ;
Chair Davis stated that there should be some type of limitation for the developer
to ensure return on costs if the capital is not used within a reasonable amount of
time. Staff agreed, and -discussed a sunset clause -or bond issue, and that typical
reimbursement periods are 10 to 20 years.
Commissioner Scandura suggested that if a sunset clause or bond issue were to
be considered, that the draft language be generic. He also asked if it was
appropriate to be included as a condition within the CUP. '.
Staff discussed downtown drainage and diversion rates, includirig-how the
regional water system operates; and the shift in drainage pattems'that relieve the
applicant from providing a filtration system on site.
Vice Chair Ray inquired about the filtration system's ability to treat bacteria,
contaminants and viruses. Staff stated that it was uncertain as to the viability of
options and technology for such an activity, and if a condition were to be
constructed, that it be developed through a Council subcommittee.
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A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD, SECONDED BY
RAY, TO ACCEPT LANGUAGE SUBMITTED BY PUBLIC WORKS STAFF
RELATING TO THE APPLICANT'S SUBMITTAL OF A WATER QUALITY
MASTER PLAN AND NECESSARY REQUIREMENTS PRIOR TO ISSUANCE
OF ANY GRADING OR BUILDINGS PERMITS.
AYES:
Thomas, Scandura, Ray, Davis, Shomaker, Dingwall, Livengood
NOES:
None
ABSENT:
None
ABSTAIN:
None
MOTION PASSED
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD, SECONDED BY
DAVIS, TO ACCEPT LANGUAGE SUBMITTED BY PUBLIC WORKS STAFF
RELATING TO THE APPLICANT'S SUBMITTAL OF A REGIONAL URBAN
TREATMENT SOLUTION FOR THE FIRST STREET WATERSHED STORM
FLOWS.
AYES: Thomas, Scandura, Ray, Davis, Shomaker, Dingwall, Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
A MOTION WAS MADE BY SCANDURA, SECONDED BY DINGWALL, TO
RECESS THE ITEM TO A SPECIAL MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, MAY 5,
2004 AT 7:00 P.M., COUNCIL CHAMBERS, HUNTINGTON BEACH CIVIC
CENTER, 2000 MAIN STREET, HUNTINGTON BEACH, CALIFORNIA, BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Thomas, Scandura, Ray, Davis, Shomaker, Dingwall, Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
C. CONSENT CALENDAR — No items.
D. NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
D-1. GENERAL PLAN CONFORMANCE NO.04-01 (VACATION OF RIGHT-OF-
WAY EASEMENT) Applicant/Property Owner: Jim Daniel Request: To
determine whether the vacation of a 10-foot right-of-way easement is in
compliance with the goals and policies of the General Plan. Location: 306
Indianapolis Avenue (south east comer of Indianapolis and Huntington) Pro ect
Planner: Rosemary Medel, Associate Planner
STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Motion to: "Adopt Resolution No. 1590 approving
General Plan Conformance No. 04-01 with findings.
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The Commission made the"Wlowing disclosures: 'Commissioner Scandura
visited the site; -Vice Chair Ray visited the site;.Commissioner Dingwall spoke
with staff regarding a correction to the staff report
Rosemary Medel, Associate Planner; gave a brief staff report.
Discussion ensued on easement discovery and property improvements by the
applicant.
Commissioner Scandura asked about other easements, and if there were plans
to widen Indianapolis Street. Staff stated that other easements exists, and that
no plans were in process to widen Indianapolis Street.
A MOTION WAS MADE BY DINGALL, SECONDED BY THOMAS, TO
APPROVE GENERAL PLAN CONFORMANCE NO.04=01 (VACATION OF
RIGHT-OF-WAY EASEMENT), BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Thomas, Scandura, Ray, Davis, Shomaker, Dingwall, Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: None,
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION PASSED
E. PLANNING COMMISSION ITEMS
E4.. PLANNING COMMISSION REQUEST ITEMS FOR FUTURE MEETINGS —
E-1a. Chair Ron Davis ;'A minute action recommendation by the Planning
Commission to the City Council'of the following:
"All funds generated from lease agreements between the City and
wireless communication companies that propose wireless facilities
within City parks shall be directed to the City's Park Fund for use in
park acquisition and park maintenance.
Motion to: "Direct staff to forward the minute action to the City Council."
Due to the late hour, Chair Davis asked that the item be continued to May 11,
2004.
RECESSED: At 12:15 a.m., April 28, 2004 to Wednesday, May 5, 2004 at 7:00 p.m.,
Huntington.Beach Civic Center.
APP ED BY:
Howard Zelefsky, Secretary Ron Davis, Chair
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