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HUNTINGTON BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 7, 2004
HUNTINGTON BEACH CIVIC CENTER
2000 MAIN STREET. HUNTINGTON BEACH. CALIFORNIA 92648
7:00 P.M. — COUNCIL CHAMBERS
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
CALL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER
P P P P P P A
ROLL CALL: Thomas, Scandura, Ray, Davis, Stilton, Livengood, Dingwall
AGENDA APPROVAL
THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AGENDA OF DECEMBER 7, 2004 WAS
APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Thomas, Scandura, Ray, Davis, Stilton, Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: Dingwall
ABSTAIN: None
MOTION APPROVED
PRESENTATION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN APPRECIATION OF PUBLIC
WORKS DEPARTMENT STAFF
Planning Commission Chair Ron Davis presented a plaque of appreciation to Terri Elliott, Public
Works Department.
PRESENTATION OF PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO.1594 IN APPRECIATION
OF OUTGOING PLANNING COMMISSIONER KRISTIN STILTON
Former Council Member Grace Winchell presented a resolution and gift to outgoing Planning
Commissioner Kristin Stilton.
PRESENTATION OF PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO. 1695 IN APPRECIATION
OF OUTGOING PLANNING COMMISSIONER CARRIE THOMAS
Former Council Member Connie Boardman presented a resolution and gift to outgoing Planning
Commissioner Carrie Thomas
PRESENTATION OF PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION NO. 1696 IN APPRECIATION
OF OUTGOING PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIR PERSON RON DAVIS
Council Member Debbie Cook presented a resolution and gift to outgoing Planning Commission
Chair Ron Davis.
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A. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Gerald Chapman, Huntington Beach, provided comments on construction activity at the vacant
area south of Ellis Avenue between Goldenwest and Edwards, voicing concerns related to the
project's grading permit and a stop work order.
Francis Arciaga, Kings Canyon Drive, spoke in opposition to the garden center proposed for the
new Target store on Brookhurst Street, voicing concerns related to noise and outdoor lighting.
Joanne Hilton, Newman Avenue, provided comments on Public Hearing Item No. B-1 (Good
Shepherd Cemetery), voicing concerns related to building height, graffiti on perimeter walls,
outdoor lighting, decreased property values and vagrancy.
Karyl Williams, Noble Circle, provided comments on Public Hearing Item No. B-1 (Good
Shepherd Cemetery), requesting that the Good Shepherd Cemetery post a 24-hour contact
number for the public to report problems and voiced concerns related to building height and
graffiti removal.
Discussion ensued about allowing the applicant and it's representatives to speak during Oral
Communications. Commissioner Scandura asked if the Chair would consider reopening the
Public Hearing. Chair Davis answered no.
Commissioner Scandura asked for those individuals who signed up to speak and -are not a part
of the applicant's team to provide comments at this time. One gentleman in the audience stated
he would like to speak at a later time.
Joe Novoa, Applicant, Diocese of Orange, provided comments on Public Hearing Item No. B-1
(Good Shepherd Cemetery), stating that the applicant's material provided to the Commission
was not clearly presented at the last meeting. - He discussed the proposed elevations in relation
to existing buildings, view corridors, topography, and how the drawings do not adequately depict
the project and hopes the model will provide a better representation.
Commissioners Thomas and Stilton asked to review the model and Commissioner Livengood
suggested that the applicant provide a brief presentation first, and then follow with a five-minute
recess to -allow the Commission time to review the model.
Vice Chair Ray recused himself from participating in the deliberation and action on Item No. B-1
due to a possible conflict of interest.
Mr. Novoa and Mike Padian, Good Shepherd Cemetery, explained project revisions at the
project model, including reduced massing,_view corridors along Newman Avenue, layered
landscaping, berming, and tree placement. They -also discussed building height to scale with
surrounding structures, and how a portion of the mausoleum is proposed below grade, and
visitors will primarily enter on the second floor.
CHAIR DAVIS CLOSED ORAL COMMUNICATIONS.
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B. PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
B-1. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO.00-63 (GOOD SHEPHERD CEMETERY
EXPANSION - CONTINUED FROM NOVEMBER 9.2004 WITH
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED): Applicant: Padian Team Consulting
Property Owner: Roman Catholic Diocese of Orange Request: 1) To permit the
three-phase expansion of the existing 23 acre cemetery. The phased
improvements include the construction -of an approximately 85,000 square foot,
three-story mausoleum, an approximately 10,000 square foot maintenance
facility, and above -ground garden crypts totaling approximately 100,000 square
feet on 12.5 undeveloped acres adjacent to the existing cemetery.. 2) To permit
approximately 980 lineal feet of six-foot tall decorative block walls and view
fencing at a zero setback along the Beach Boulevard and Talbert Avenue
frontages. Location: 8301 Talbert Avenue (North side of Talbert Avenue, east of
Beach Boulevard). Project Planner: Paul Da Veiga
STAFF RECOMMENDATION: Motion to: "Approve Conditional Use Permit No.
00-63 with findings, modifications and conditions of approval."
Paul Da Veiga, Associate Planner, gave a PowerPoint presentation that identified the
applicant's proposed revisions since the last meeting and discussed the design of the
mausoleum, garden crypts and perimeter improvements. His presentation included
information on mausoleum building height, mass and bulk, trees and landscaping, view
corridors along Newman Avenue and perimeter wall improvements.
Commissioner Scandura asked staff to confirm the mausoleum's reduced square
footage., Staff acknowledged that the correct reduction figure is 2,600 sq. ft. (1,300 sq.
ft. per floor).
Commissioner Scandura asked staff to confirm that the chapel portion of the mausoleum
will be pushed back while the building footprint and setback measurements remain
unchanged. Staff confirmed. Commissioner Scandura also asked why the proposal
reduced the height of the crypts on the east property line while the garden crypt height
remained unchanged. Staff explained that the garden crypts already met height
requirements within the code, but the crypt height on the east property line need to be
reduced because they exist within 45' of residential property.
Commissioner Thomas voiced concerns related to sidewalk width and pedestrian safety
on the north side of Talbert Avenue, proposing that the applicant consider a perimeter
wall at Talbert Avenue and Beach Blvd.
Commissioner Thomas asked the applicant to confirm that the crypts located near the
Talbert Avenue fence line could not be moved. The applicant confirmed. Commissioner
Thomas also requested that the Design Review Board (DRB) consider creating an area
with trees and fencing along Talbert Avenue. The applicant agreed to incorporate the
idea as a condition of approval.
Commissioner Livengood discussed his review of project phasing and revised building
heights, landscaping and sidewalks. He referred to a handout he provided to the
Commission on the project phasing. He requested that a condition be added that
names the party responsible for maintaining the drainage facility improvements. He was
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pleased with the proposed view corridor with trees and landscaping along Newman
Avenue, and voiced support for staff's recommendation' of design inlays."
Commissioner Stilton stated that issues related to view corridors have. been adequately
addressed in the landscapeplan. .
Chair Davis suggested that the Commission either approve the project design or send it
to the DRB for a recommendation.
Chair Davis suggested that the Commission take a 5' minute recess to allow time for the
Commission to review the project model.
THE COMMISSION TOOK A 5-MINUTE RECESS.
Commissioner Stilton questioned if the fencing between view corridors would be view
fencing. . The applicant confirmed that it would. '
The Commission made the following disclosures:. Commissioner Thomas visited the site
and spoke with staff; Commissioner Scandura visited other cemeteries located in the
cities of Cypress, Long Beach and Ontario and visited the site; Commission Stilton
visited the site and spoke with staff; Commissioner Livengood visited the site and spoke
with staff.
Commissioner Livengood recommended"that the Commission carefully review the
conditions of approval related to landscaping and fence design before forwarding the
item to the DRB. He also repeated his concerns about the sidewalk width on the north
side of Talbert Avenue.
Commissioner Scandura stated that sidewalk width should be at least 6 feet. He also
revealed that he walked the site along Newman Avenue and voiced his disappointment
about mausoleum height and massing, suggesting a reduction in height and allowing the
DRB to resolve the issue'.
Chair Davis disagreed, stating that the DRB is responsible for making recommendations
related to design. He said that the Commission needed to resolve the overall height
issue. Staff concurred.
Discussion ensued. Staff informed the Commission of the overall building height from
the existing grade and from the top of the mausoleum to the top of the curb on Newman
Avenue.
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD, SECONDED BY DAVIS, TO
ACCEPT ELEVATIONS FOR ALL BUILDINGS BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES:
Thomas, Davis, Stilton, Livengood
NOES:
"Scandura_
ABSENT:
Dingwall
ABSTAIN:
Ray
MOTION APPROVED
Commissioner Livengood asked what the code requirements are for street widths on
Beach Blvd., including curb and gutter and bus shelters. He voiced support for the City
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Landscape Architect having final approval of landscaping, and suggested adding a
condition of approval that requires a solid wall on Beach Blvd.
Chair Davis asked about sidewalk width as part of the conditional use permit (CUP)
request. Staff stated that the city requires 8 feet and Chair Davis suggested that a
condition of approval be added reflecting the standard city requirement.
Commissioner Stilton asked staff to explain the locations of the 3-foot planter, 6-foot
solid wall and 8-foot sidewalk areas on Beach Blvd. Staff referred to the site plan and
conditions of approval, pointing out the revisions made based on the Commission's
recommendations at the November 9 meeting.
Commissioner Stilton voiced concerns about the Commission making design
recommendations, suggesting that design decisions be made by the DRB.
Commissioner Thomas concurred.
Discussion ensued on solid wall material and the appropriateness of sending a design
recommendation to the DRB. Staff reminded the Commission that a solid wall could
mitigate noise impacts for visitors. Commissioner Thomas voiced concerns about a
straight, solid wall on Beach Blvd. and discussed the differences in visual effects
between a solid perimeter wall and open areas between wall sections. Chair Davis
voiced support for pilasters and open wall sections along Beach Blvd. and the applicant
explained how grave locations make it necessary to include the 120-foot solid wall
section.
Commissioner Thomas inquired about tree placement in the open area east of the
garden crypts and asked for the distance between gravesites and the fence along Beach
Blvd. and Talbert Avenue. The applicant explained that the distances vary and moving
gravesites to accommodate the space required to move a fence inward would not be
possible on Beach Blvd. or Talbert Avenue. The applicant also explained that trees
might be placed in areas where plots have not yet been reserved.
Commissioner Stilton concurred with Chair Davis on opening wall sections along Beach
Blvd. to provide a garden view and change the linear look with pilasters, etc.
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD, SECONDED BY STILTON,
TO APPROVE THE BEACH BLVD. IMPROVEMENTS CONCRETE CURB, GUTTER,
AND 8-FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK; EXISTING BUS SHELTER TO REMAIN; FROM
TALBERT/BEACH INTERSECTION NORTH FOR 120 FEET PROVIDE A 6-FOOT
SOLID WALL SET BACK THREE FEET WITH A 6-INCH PROTECTIVE CURB FOR
LANDSCAPING; AND THE BALANCE OF THE BEACH BLVD. FRONTAGE NORTH
ALLOW A 6-FOOT VIEW WALL AT THE PROPERTY LINE.
Chair, Davis asked for the overall wall length on Beach Blvd. Staff responded 610 feet.
Commissioner Livengood voiced approval of the 120-foot section of solid wall at the
Beach/Talbert intersection to mitigate noise.
Commissioner Scandura asked if the final wall design is subject to DRB approval. Staff
explained that the wall design is not subject to final DRB review unless the PC refers the
design to the Board and indicate that the design of the wall described in conditions of
approval 1.a and 1.b on Attachment 1-.2 of the staff report.
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ACTION ON THE PREVIOUS STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS TAKEN BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Scandura, Stilton, Livengood
NOES: Thomas, Davis
ABSENT: Dingwall
ABSTAIN: Ray
MOTION APPROVED
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD TO APPROVE THE
TALBERT AVENUE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDING CONCRETE CURB, GUTTER
AND 4-FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK; FROM TALBERT/BEACH INTERSECTION EAST
TO THE MAUSOLEUM A 6-FOOT SOLID WALL SET BACK 3 FEET WITH A 64NCH
PROTECTIVE CURB FOR LANDSCAPING; EXISTING SINGLE ELECTRICAL POLE
SERVING THE GARDEN CRYPTS REMOVED.
The Commission voiced concerns related to the narrow sidewalk on the north side of
Talbert Avenue and pedestrian safety.- Commissioner Scandura discussed reducing the
landscape planter area by 2 feet on the north side of Talbert Avenue between the
mausoleum and Beach Blvd./Talbert Avenue intersection to gain 2 feet of sidewalk. For
the remaining areas along the property line, he suggested that the sidewalk would need
to encroach 2 feet into the bike lane.
Staff discussed land dedication and General Plan requirements for arterial highways.
Staff explained that no fence is proposed east of the existing mausoleum, and that
conditioning a wall in that area poses foundation issues. Staff also stated that they
would not support reducing the street and narrowing the bike lane because this presents
a safety issue for cyclists on a heavily traveled arterial highway.
Commissioner Livengood attempted to divide the motion into 3 parts.
Chair Davis voiced opposition to bike lane encroachment. Although sympathetic to the
nature of the applicant's business, he felt that any other business proposing such
improvements would be required to dedicate for right-of-way purposes.
Discussion ensued on the sidewalk width and the dedication requirements.
WITH NO SECOND, THE MOTION FAILED. •
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY_SCANDURA, SECONDED BY
THOMAS, TO ADD A CONDITION OF APPROVAL REQUIRING A 6-FOOT WIDE
SIDEWALK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TALBERT AVENUE BY ENCROACHING 2-
FEET INTO THE BIKE LANE IN THE AREA BETWEEN THE MAUSOLEUM AND
CEMETERY ENTRANCE AND ADJACENT TO THE MAUSOLEUM; AND REQUIRING
A 6-FOOT SIDEWALK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF-TALBERT AVENUE IN THE AREA
BETWEEN THE MAUSOLEUM AND THE BEACH BLVD./TALBERT AVENUE
INTERSECTION BY ENCROACHING 2 FEET INTO THE CEMENTERY PROPERTY.
Commissioner Stilton asked if the Commission could legally condition the applicant to
negotiate the purchase of 2 feet of City property. Staff stated that the City would not
reduce the Talbert Avenue right-of-way as part of the project. She also asked if
alternatives exist such as consideration of a meandering path on the property instead of
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a property line sidewalk. Commissioner Livengood referred to the existing sidewalk
condition as unsafe for pedestrians and poorly planned. He also stated that the
applicant should not be financially burdened for dedicating an additional 2 feet of their
property to widen the sidewalk, and that the solution is to encroach 2 feet into the bike
Idne.
Commissioner Thomas agreed with Chair Davis and his statement about how the
request must be decided upon like similar requests from other businesses. She also
asked if other alternatives exist to create a safe passageway for pedestrians.
Commissioner Scandura voiced opposition to moving gravesites.
Commissioner Stilton questioned certain design elements, stating that they were not
representative of how the intersection at Beach Blvd. and Talbert Avenue was portrayed
on the drawings. She concurred with Chair Davis about conditioning the project to
comply with the city's standard requirements.
Commissioner Scandura asked staff to explain the mechanism for widening the sidewalk
to 6 feet. Staff responded that the request would require the applicant to dedicate an
additional 2 feet of property along the southeast property line on Talbert Avenue.
Commissioner Thomas asked staff if the utility pole, adjacent to the Talbert Avenue
mausoleum, was being removed, calling it a safety hazard. Staff confirmed, explaining
why the pole impedes pedestrian traffic along the sidewalk.
Commissioner Livengood asked if the motion could include a two-part request for
Talbert Avenue improvements from the Beach/Talbert intersection to the mausoleum,
and include a 12-inch planter and 3 foot setback. Commissioner's Scandura and
Thomas agreed.
ACTION ON THE PREVIOUS STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS TAKEN BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES:
Thomas, Scandura, Davis, Stilton, Livengood
NOES:
None
ABSENT:
Dingwall
ABSTAIN:
Ray
MOTION APPROVED
Commissioner Livengood suggested drafting minute action to the City Council to
communicate concerns and suggested conditions of approval related to wall location
and sidewalk width on the north side of Talbert Avenue between the mausoleum and the
cemetery entrance. Discussion ensued about the CUP process not allowing for -
encroachment into the bike lane. Commissioner Scandura voiced support for drafting a
minute action and withdrew his previous motion. Commissioner Thomas seconded
withdrawing the motion.
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A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY SCANDURA, SECONDED BY
LIVENGOOD, TO DRAFT MINUTE, ACTION TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO
COMMUNICATE CONCERNS -AND SUGGESTED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
RELATED TO WIDENING THE SIDEWALK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TALBERT
AVENUE FROM THE MAUSOLEUM TO THE CEMETERY ENTRANCE, BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Thomas, Scandura, Davis, Stilton, Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: Dingwall
ABSTAIN: Ray -
MOTION APPROVED =
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD, SECONDED BY DAVIS, TO
APPROVE TALBERT AVENUE IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING CONCRETE CURB,
GUTTER AND 4-FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK FROM THE TALBERT AVENUE
MAUSOLEUM TO THE CEMETERY ENTRANCE; AND A 5-FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK
FROM THE MAUSOLEUM TO THE TALBERT/BEACH INTERSECTION WITH A 1-
FOOT PLANTER IN FRONT OF THE PROPOSED BLOCK WALL. -
Commissioner Livengood asked if the applicant would consider a 2-foot planter. The
applicant voiced concerns about planting -trees in a narrow area, but was willing to
consider the 2-foot planter.
THE MOTION WAS MODIFIED TO INCLUDE A 2-FOOT WIDE PLANTER IN FRONT
OF THE PROPOSED BLOCK WALL, DELETION OF CONDITION OF APPROVAL 1A
AND ACCEPTANCE OF CONDITION OF APPROVAL 113 ON ATTACHMENT 1.2, BY
THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Thomas, Scandura, Davis, Stilton, Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: Dingwall
ABSTAIN: Ray
MOTION APPROVED
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD, SECONDED BY STILTON,
TO APPROVE NEWMAN AVENUE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDING: 6-FOOT HIGH
WROUGHT IRON VIEW FENCING BETWEEN GARDEN CRYPT BUILDINGS; A 20-
FOOT BERM AND LANDSCAPE SETBACK; CHAIN LINK FENCE REMOVED; NEW
TREES ALONG SOUTH SIDE OF NEWMAN AVENUE PER CITY REQUIREMENTS;
NEW CEMENT CURBS, GUTTERS AND SIDWALK; NEW STREETLIGHTS ON
NEWMAN AVENUE FRONTAGE; AND, 6-FOOT HIGH VIEW FENCING ALONG VIEW
CORRIDORS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, BY THE FOLLOWING
VOTE:,
AYES:
Thomas, Scandura, Davis, Stilton, Livengood
NOES:
None
ABSENT:
Dingwall
ABSTAIN:
Ray
MOTION APPROVED
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THE COMMISSION TOOK A RECESS AT 9:05 P.M.
Discussion ensued on staffs recommendation in condition of approval No. 3,
Attachment 1.3, to modify the phasing program by including construction of both
detention basins and all public improvements along Beach Blvd., Talbert Avenue, and
Newman Avenue within the first phase. Commissioner Scandura questioned staffs
reasons for requiring completion of the detention basins and all drainage improvements
within the first phase. Staff responded by stating that the recommended phasing
program protects surrounding residents and their homes against potential flooding and
possible flood damage. Staff added that based on its location across from single family
residences, the public improvements along Newman Avenue, including the landscape
setback, should be constructed within the first phase.
Commissioner's Davis and Scandura questioned how the change would benefit the city.
Commissioner Livengood voiced strong opposition to staffs recommended construction
phasing, stating that it is not in sync with the second phase. He also indicated support
for the applicant's phasing for drainage control.
Commissioner Thomas asked if it was common to impose all public improvements within
the first phase of construction. Staff affirmed that it is common to require public
improvements within the first construction phase of a phased project to ensure that
public improvements are completed and not subject to future delays in the construction
of the project. Staff also discussed the dilapidated curb along Newman Avenue.
Commissioner Stilton called the condition unfair to the applicant. The applicant
recommended that the existing sidewalk, curb and gutter along Newman Avenue be
repaired to mitigate safety concerns identified by the Planning Commission.
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD, SECONDED BY STILTON,
TO ACCEPT THE APPLICANTS PHASING PLAN FOR ALL ITEMS INCLUDING
DRAINAGE CONTROL, REPAIR OF THE SIDEWALK, CURB AND GUTTER ALONG
NEWMAN AVENUE WITHIN THE FIRST PHASE OF CONSTRUCTION.
Chair Davis discussed requiring a construction bond for the future construction of public
improvements along Newman Avenue in order to ensure their completion during future
phases of construction. Commissioner Livengood suggested adding a bond
requirement as a condition of approval to ensure the construction of curb, sidewalk,
gutter and fencing improvements along Newman Avenue.
Chair Davis asked the applicant if the Newman Avenue improvements were concurrent
with Phase II. The applicant confirmed. Chair Davis asked when Phase I would be
complete. The applicant replied one year. Chair Davis requested that the applicant
provide a timeline for Phase II improvements. The applicant discussed a 5 to 7 year
timeline for completion of the project. Chair Davis voiced support for a bond
requirement as protection that the applicant would complete the project within the
proposed timeframe. The applicant voiced opposition to a bond requirement.
Commissioner Livengood suggested amending the motion to include an interim bond
requirement for public improvements on Newman Avenue, and a 6-year completion
date. Commissioner Stilton seconded the amendment.
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ACTION WAS TAKEN ON THE PREVIOUS STRAW VOTE MOTION AND AS
AMENDED BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES:
Thomas, Scandura, Davis, Stilton, Livengood
NOES:
None
ABSENT:-
Dingwall
ABSTAIN:
Ray
MOTION APPROVED
Commissioner Livengood discussed his perception of the applicant's proposal for Phase
II improvements.
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD, SECONDED BY
SCANDURA; TO ACCEPT THE APPLICANT'S PHASE-11 PLAN FOR
CONSTRUCTION, EXCLUDING DRAINAGE CONTROL.
Discussion ensued regarding the motion and the Phase 11 improvements.
Commissioner Stilton questioned construction activity related to the mausoleum during
the initial versus final phases. The applicant explained how the construction activity
could include temporary use of modular buildings. -
ACTION WAS TAKEN ON THE PREVIOUS STRAW VOTE MOTION BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Thomas, Scandura, Davis, Stilton, Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: Dingwall
ABSTAIN: Ray
MOTION APPROVED
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD, SECONDED BY
SCANDURA,•TO ACCEPT THE APPLICANT'S PHASE III PLAN EXCLUDING
DRAINAGE CONTROL, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES:
Thomas, Scandura, Davis, Stilton, Livengood
NOES:
None
ABSENT:
Dingwall
ABSTAIN:
Ray
MOTION APPROVED
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A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD, SECONDED BY DAVIS, TO
ALLOW THE PLANNING DIRECTOR TO AUTHORIZE CHANGES TO THE PROJECT
PHASING, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES:
Thomas, Scandura, Davis, Stilton, Livengood
NOES:
None
ABSENT:
Dingwall
ABSTAIN:
Ray
MOTION APPROVED
Discussion ensued regarding drainage control. Chair Davis asked who would be
responsible for conducting inspections and submitting progress reports on construction
along with who would pay for those services. Staff replied that the applicant would
submit progress reports to the Public Works department and that Public Works would
make inspections. Staff also stated that the process of payment for services would have
to be researched.
Discussion ensued on erosion control. The applicant explained that all required controls
are in place. Staff explained that their biggest concern was monitoring the interim
drainage facility adding that Public Works and the Regional Water Quality Control Board
would monitor basin control.
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY DAVIS, SECONDED BY SCANDURA, TO
APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S PHASING PLAN FOR DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS,
SUBMITTAL OF THE HYDROLOGY STUDY TO PUBLIC WORKS PRIOR TO
REVIEW OF THE INTERIM BASIN STUDY; ANNUAL INSPECTION REPORTS
SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT FOR REVIEW BY PUBLIC WORKS; AND TO
GRANT PUBLIC WORKS THE RIGHT TO CONDUCT INFORMAL INSPECTIONS.
Commissioner Thomas asked if the motion should include a bond requirement. Chair
Davis responded that given the nature of the project, with interim phasing and progress
reports by the applicant and the applicant's own civil liability issues, he felt that a bond
requirement was not necessary. Commissioner Scandura agreed.
ACTION WAS TAKEN ON THE PREVIOUS STRAW VOTE MOTION BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES:
Thomas, Scandura, Davis, Stilton, Livengood
NOES:
None
ABSENT:
Dingwall
ABSTAIN:
Ray
MOTION APPROVED
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD TO AMEND CONDITION OF
APPROVAL #2 ON ATTACHMENT 1.3 BY STRIKING "AND ALL IMPROVEMENTS
AND LANDSCAPING PROPOSED AT THE SUBJECT SITE."
Discussion ensued and opposition was voiced on removing "landscaping proposed at
the site." Staff provided an explanation of what might be considered "all improvements",
describing it as a "catch all" statement. Chair Davis asked if Commissioner Livengood
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Would consider' leaving the language in. Commissioner Livengood could,not support the
request:
WITH NO SECOND, THE MOTION FAILED.
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY DAVIS, SECONDED BY SCANDURA, TO
ACCEPT CONDITION OF APPROVAL #2 ON ATTACHMENT 1.3, BY THE
FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Thomas, Scandura, Davis, Stiilton
NOES: Livengood
ABSENT:- - Dingwall -
ABSTAIN: Ray
MOTION APPROVED
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY SCANDURA, SECONDED BY THOMAS,
TO REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO WORK WITH THE TAMARACK VILLAGE
HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND ADJACENT HOSPITAL PROPERTY OWNERS
ON CONSTRUCTION OF A COMMON PROPERTY LINE BLOCK WALL TO
PREVENT DOUBLE WALLS BEING BUILT ON THE PROPERTY LINE. .
Commissioner Stilton voiced concerns about the motion contradicting previous action
related to view fencing. Commissioner Scandura explained that the motion serves as a
safeguard that in the future the applicant will not construct a wall adjacent to other
existing walls on common property lines. He voiced concerns. about double walls
creating a home for vermin. He also agreed to modify his motion to include language
allowing a view fence for security purposes.
ACTION WAS TAKEN ON THE PREVIOUS STRAW VOTE MOTION AS MODIFIED
BY -THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES:.--- Thomas, Scandura, Davis, Stilton, Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: Dingwall
ABSTAIN: . Ray
MOTION APPROVED
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY SCANDURA TO REQUIRE THE:
APPLICANT TO APPLY FOR A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT TO NARROW THE
BIKE LANE ON TALBERT AVENUE BETWEEN THE MAUSOLEUM AND - .
CEMETERY ENTRANCE BY 2 FEET IN ORDER TO WIDEN THE SIDEWALK TO 6
FEET.
'Discussion ensued., Chair Davis felt the motion was unnecessary and unfair to the
applicant, and that the City, Council will provide final recommendations on the project.
WITH NO SECOND, THE MOTION FAILED.
Discussion ensued on a sign for graffiti removal and contact information for public
reporting of security -related issues. Staff suggested locations for signage and the
possibility of DRB review. Chair Davis voiced opposition to any signage on the property.
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Commissioner Thomas suggested the applicant send a letter to residents within a 300-
foot radius providing the same information. The applicant was agreeable to the
suggestion.
A STRAW VOTE MOTION WAS MADE BY DAVIS, SECONDED BY THOMAS, TO
ADD A CONDITION OF APPROVAL TO REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO NOTIFY
RESIDENTS WITHIN A 300 FOOT RADIUS OF A CEMETERY CONTACT PERSON
AND INFORMATION RELATED TO REPORTING OF GRAFITTI AND/OR SECURITY
RELATED ISSUES, BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Thomas, Scandura, Davis, Stilton
NOES: Livengood
ABSENT: Dingwall
ABSTAIN: Ray
MOTION APPROVED
A MOTION WAS MADE BY LIVENGOOD, SECONDED BY STILTON, TO APPROVE
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO.00-63 WITH REVISED FINDINGS AND MODIFIED
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, INCORPORATING ALL APPROVED STRAW VOTE
MOTIONS.
Commissioner Scandura voiced support for the project, commenting that his concerns
related to the mausoleum height and inadequate sidewalk width were outweighed by the
project's overall merits.
ACTION WAS TAKEN ON THE PREVIOUS MOTION BY THE FOLLOWING VOTE:
AYES: Thomas, Scandura, Davis, Stilton, Livengood
NOES: None
ABSENT: Dingwall
ABSTAIN: Ray
MOTION APPROVED
Commissioner Livengood referred to a memo he prepared and distributed to the
Planning Commission dated December 7, 2004, titled "Project Entitlement Process." He
asked the Commissioners to review the memo and indicated that he would follow-up
with staff on the issues identified in the memo.
Commissioner Scandura questioned who prepares minute action memos to the City
Council referencing the overall drainage problem on the subject property. Staff replied
that they prepare the memos on behalf of the Planning Commission and informed the
Commission that the applicant appealed the environmental determination approved by
the Commission and the appeal will be brought before the City Council.
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ADJOURNMENT:
Adjourned at 10:25. p.mAo December 14, 2004 at 6:00 p.m. for a holiday gathering at the
Spark Woodfire Grill, 300 Pacific Coast Highway, Ste. 202, Huntington Beach. The.
December 28, 2004 meeting has been canceled.
APP VED BY:
Howard Zelefsky, Secretary Steve Pay, Chair
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