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City Council Interoffice Communication
C OF HUNTINGTON BEACH
To: Honorable Mayor and City Council Members
From: Mike Posey, City Council Member40
Date: July 7, 2016
Subject: CITY COUNCIL MEMBER ITEM FOR THE JULY 18, 2016, CITY
COUNCIL MEETING— NOVEMBER 2016 ADVISORY VOTE ON
FUTURE DISPOSITION OF RODGERS SENIORS' CENTER
STATEMENT OF ISSUE:
On several recent occasions, the City Council has discussed the disposition of the
Rodgers Seniors' Center site. In 2015, the Council issued a Request for Proposal to
develop the site as residential housing with an adjacent neighborhood park, with
proceeds from the sale designated for citywide park improvements only.
Because of the potential unknown risks in obtaining the necessary entitlements and
conducting a successful Charter Section 612 (Measure C) campaign to secure
community support, multiple developers have walked away from the potential of
purchasing the property from the City.
The City Council held a Study Session on April 4, 2016, on the potential of continued
use of the site as a community meeting/rental facility. In order to utilize the current
senior center facility for this use, $290,000 was identified for first tier repairs with a
second tier of repairs estimated at $570,000. Based on known demand for community
rental space, specific need for the rental space was estimated, but not fully defined. In
addition to a community meeting/rental facility, some are calling for creating a passive
park on the site at a potential cost of over $1.5 million, not including ongoing
maintenance and additional amenities.
Huntington Beach has 76 parks throughout the City. The Rodgers site, although
designated as park land, does not currently function as a neighborhood park. Costs to
develop the two-acre parcel as a park are not identified in the Park and Recreation
Master Plan. If the property were to be developed, it would need to be prioritized along
with the other needed projects citywide and would cost approximately $1.5 million to
develop. It is also important to consider the opportunity cost of not being able to sell the
property, making the true cost of the park to the community closer to $12.5 to $17.5
million dollars.
The current Park and Recreation Master Plan identifies nearly $35 million dollars in
unfunded park needs, with $27 million in priority projects recommended through 2020.
This estimate does not include development of the two-acre Rodgers parcel, which
could cost up to $1.5 million to develop as a passive park. Additional amenities such as
lighting or court surfaces could increase that cost. Based on current development
activity, staff estimates that park fee revenues will total approximately $23 million over
the next five years, creating a shortfall of approximately $12 million.
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In order to properly maintain/improve our existing 76 parks citywide, serving nearly
200,000 Huntington Beach residents, I propose a non-binding formal survey of all
Huntington Beach residents in the form of an advisory vote on the November ballot,
requesting input on the sale of the Rodgers site with all proceeds from the sale of the
property designated for citywide park improvements.
I believe that ultimately all of the residents of our City should determine the disposition
of the Rodgers site. While an advisory vote is not a Charter Section 612 (Measure C)
vote, the outcome of the advisory vote in November 2016 will help the City Council
better understand the desire of all city residents. It is important for City Council to
understand the residents priorities as it relates to the use of this public space, either
generating significant one-time funding for citywide park improvements or prioritizing the
development of a neighborhood two-acre park at a cost of approximately $1.5 million.
RECOMMENDED ACTION:
Direct the City Clerk to agendize by August 1, 2016, for City Council consideration, the
necessary documents to place an advisory vote on the November 8, 2016, General
Election Ballot titled, "Determination of Future Use for the Former Rodgers Seniors'
Center Site," with the question of, "Shall the City sell the former Rodgers Seniors'
Center site for the highest and best use with all proceeds, estimated to be up to $14
million, designated to fund citywide park improvements, or shall the City expend
approximately $1.5 million and commit to ongoing maintenance costs for the
development of a two-acre park?" A "yes" vote shall be supportive of selling the parcel
for the highest and best use and clear the way to place the item on a future ballot in
compliance with Charter Section 612 (Measure C), and a "no" vote shall retain the
parcel for a passive park.
xc: Fred Wilson, City Manager
Ken Domer, Assistant City Manager
Robin Estanislau, City Clerk
Michael Gates, City Attorney
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CITY OF HUNTINGTON BEACH
City Council Interoffice Communication
To: Honorable Mayor and City Council e ers
From: Mike Posey, Council Member
Date: July 18, 2016
Subject: WITHDRAWAL OF AGENDA 1 26 FROM THE JULY 18, 2016, CITY
COUNCIL AGENDA—ADVISORY VOTE ON NOVEMBER BALLOT
REGARDING FUTURE DISPOSTION OF RODGERS SENIORS' CENTER
Dear Mayor Katapodis and City Council Members:
I have decided to withdraw my item, No. 26, from tonight's agenda. My reasons for this decision
are as follows:
• To allow the the Community Services Commission additional time to determine
appropriate uses for the two-acre parcel of parkland, including opportunities for open
space, park amenities, and a dedicated veterans memorial hall on the property.
• Additional time will likely be needed to educate the community on the options that the
Community Services Commission will be recommending for City Council consideration.
• It may be worthwhile to conduct townhall meeting to seek additional public input on the
options.
For these reasons I am withdrawing my item from the agenda. Q
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From: anderson barbara [andyfoneforever@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 11:07 PM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: RE: OPPOSING AGENDA ITEM#26
AGENDA COMMENT
Dear Mayor Katapodis and Council members,
I am writing to OPPOSE agenda item 26 for the following reasons:
1.Ballot Measure T which passed in 2006 used the following ballot argument."An added benefit is returning the existing senior center to all downtown residents use."Was this
merely a LIE to sell the community on passage of new center???It is no wonder there is such a tremendous lack of trust in our elected officials.There was a promise made to
the community and anything short of KEEPING THIS PROMISE is 100%UNACCEPTABLE!
27his ballot measure is irresponsible and extraordinarily divisive.Asking the community at large to decide if one area of the city should be entitled to a park in order to
maintain funding for the rest of the city is flat-out wrong and divisive.This will open the door where the community as a whole can vote away MY NEIGHBORHOOD park,or
ANY NEIGHBORHOOD park.Our elected officials serve the entire city and it is incumbent upon all of you to provide for all the city and not divide us.
3.While I am very clear that HB struggles with our unfunded liabilities,SELLING PARK SPACE IS NOT THE SOLUTION!We must dig-in and correct the root of our funding
issues including serious pension reform,and not expect to sell away open space,piece by piece.This ballot measure is a very irresponsible approach to addressing revenue
for park maintenance or any other funding.
4.Our city has seen more than 3,000 High Density apartment units put upon us in just a few short years.The downtown area has changed dramatically with so many lots
changing from one home to two homes.In addition,we just consumed approx.5 acres in Central Park to develop the Senior Center.This proposed ballot measure is clearly
taking HB in the WRONG direction!
I attended the Community Services Commission meeting on Wed.,7113,where Commissioner Moffatt brought this same agenda item for consideration.)was very pleased
that an overwhelming majority of the Commission(8-2)voted NO on this proposal.The eight dissenting members echoed my thoughts above and more.They spoke concisely
that this is NOT the right direction for HB.In addition,many from the community spoke against this proposal.
I urge you to join with me and the Community Services Board and reject Agenda Item 26.
Thank you,
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From: Surf City Pipeline [noreply@user.govoutreach.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 6:57 PM
To: CITY COUNCIL; Agenda Alerts
Subject: Surf City Pipeline: Comment on an Agenda Item (notification)
Request# 26821 from the Government Outreach System has been assigned to Agenda Alerts.
Request type: Comment
Request area: City Council - Agenda& Public Hearing Comments
Citizen name: Mary Jo Baretich
Description: Dear Council Members,
I was very surprised to see the Agenda COUNCILMEMBER ITEM 26 without this
being allowed to be discussed in a Workshop by the citizens of Huntington Beach.
Before any important item such as this is brought to the City Council for an Advisory
Vote, the full factual cost estimates, and all the alternatives and options should be made
available to the staff and public so they can have time to do their own analysis. The
citizens are the ones who will be paying for any changes to the Rogers Senior Center
site. They need to be involved in this, and need to be heard.
This parcel of land has been zoned as park land all these years since 1917 when Chevron
leased the land to the city (for$1 a year, I understand) with a covenant that it be
maintained for public or recreational use, not to be sold to a developer to build homes.
After losing 5 acres of passive parkland in Central Park to build a new Senior Center, a
decision to turn Rodgers into a passive park makes sense. The residents in the area
surrounding the Rodgers Senior Center acreage wish to have a passive park for their
children and family gatherings. The cost to turn this into a passive park is a one-time
cost. Once established, the maintenance cost would be similar to the other small parks in
the city.
It is not like the proposal to rehab the existing structures to make it into a Veterans
Community Center (one of the previous proposals). There again, no estimates were
presented for that venue. Operating that facility would be an on-going expense along
with the cost to rehab it. We were told at the many meetings on the new Senior Center,
that this old Rodgers building was not restorable for health and safety reasons.
I request you defer addressing this item until factual data on cost for the different usage
options are available for the Rodgers Senior Center site.
Thank you, -SUPPLEMENTAL
Mary Jo Baretich COMMUNICATION
21752 Pacific Coast Hwy #23A
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From: Eleanor Borkenhagen [borkenhb@verizon.net]
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 10:17 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL
Cc: Agenda Comment; Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Agenda Item 26, "Rogers'Park
AGENDA COMMENT
As an over 50 year resident of the " numbered streets", I feel quite strongly that the Rogers Senior Site should return
to being a neighborhood park for downtown residents. When my children were young, we spent many hours at that
park enjoying the swings, slide, etc. As the density downtown increases we have an increased need to retain the
property as a park, so future residents can enjoy it the way my family did.
Eleanor E. Borkenhagen
623 -131h Street
Huntington Beach CA
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From: Claudette Brunelli [cbrunelli@socal.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 4:58 PM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: do not sell the Rodgers center to developers- keep it as open space
AGENDA COMMENT
I live in South Huntington and am completely opposed to selling the Rodgers senior space for
development. It should be kept for all the people in the city to use whether it be park land
or turning the building into something that the whole community can use. When we voted for
the new senior center, we were told that the current senior center would remain for the use
of the people of Huntington Beach. I would have never voted for it if i thought there was any
chance that it was going to be sold to developers. The way the advisory ballots is written
is deceptive but maybe that is they type of council we have since we were told that the land
was going to remain for the community in the original measure. Please keep your word and
keep the land for the community of Huntington Beach, thank you, Claudette Brunelli
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From: Ed [ekbush@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 3:50 PM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Fw: Rodger's Senior Center Property
AGENDA COMMENT
From: ekbushCcbhotmail.com
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 03:46 PM
To: city.councilCabsurlcity-hb.org
Subject: Rodger's Senior Center Property
City Council Members:
It again appears to be folly to expect promises made by City Council members, whether past, present or
future, to be kept. Mr. Posey, at least, seems to go along with so many other politicians of the day, who
believe his desires are more important that those of the citizens who live in proximity of the old center.
Citizens of Huntington Beach had to give up five acres of prime parkland to accommodate the new senior
center, and that was based on the political promises that the old center would become a park. Mr. Posey has
the audacity to insert his will by suggesting that the park is no longer necessary because it is so near the
beach. In lieu of a park, Mr. Posey seems to think we need more cliff-dwelling like structures to congest an
already heavily congested area. It is irresponsible thinking like this on the part of politicians, that make
citizens regurgitate at the thought of irresponsible governing bodies. I urge you to VOTE NO, on Mr. Posey's
proposal.
Ed Bush
6182 Moonfield Drive
Huntington Beach, CA 92648
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From: Dombo, Johanna
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 8:21 AM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: FW: Agenda item 26
AGENDA COMMENT
From. Sylvia Calhoun [mailto:skc347@vahoo.com]
Sent:Thursday,July 14, 2016 10:35 PM
To: agenda@surfcity-hb.org
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; iflynn@surfcity-hb.org; CITY COUNCIL; Erik Peterson
Subject: Agenda item 26
Dear Mayor Katapodis and City Council members.
I am so grateful to live in a town which has a City Council that I can trust and feel are standing behind us
citizens. Please
keep the promise that was made to us about keeping the Rodger's Senior Center downtown.
Really and truly, we constituents who take an active interest in supporting you in your campaigns by committing
time and money
and countless hours of volunteer work, all we want is to have basic governance, as simple and limited as possible.
It makes us
incredibly weary to have to fight every battle twice or more times.
I OPPOSE agenda item 26. Thank you. Sylvia Calhoun
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From: pastable@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 3:35 PM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Opposition to Agenda item 26
AGENDA COMMENT
Honorable Mayor and City Council Members:
Ballot Measure T passed in 2006 was promoted with the pledge that, "An added benefit is returning the existing senior center to
all downtown residents use."
To reverse that commitment under the latest guise of(again) misleading Huntington Beach with a promise of more parks is
reprehensible!
There is a core of several thousand citizens of H.B. who ARE paying attention to the ongoing game-playing done by some of the
city council and I assure you that it will be remembered and dealt with in future elections. Developers may fund some of you but
they don't reside in H.B. We do. And we vote!
This is to advise I strongly oppose Agenda item 26 and urge your'NO' vote.
David Cicerone
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From: Elizabeth Clifford [eclifford@socal.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 11:54 AM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Agenda item 26
AGENDA COMMENT
I oppose agenda item 26 STOP any further high density development! !
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From: T456mac@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:02 PM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Oppose Agenda Item 26
AGENDA COMMENT
Dear Council Members,
I am writing to OPPOSE Agenda Item 26. Please save our parks!
Thank you,,
Mark Cohen
Huntington Beach
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714-425-1064
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From: Carol Comparsi [CAROLCOM714@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 11:59 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL; Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Agenda Item 26 "Rogers' Park
AGENDA COMMENT
Hello,
I am a long time resident of downtown Huntington Beach. The Rogers Senior Center has been a
great neighbor for the 30+ years I have lived across the street at 16th and Orange. Now that
I am a senior, I am very pleased about the new site on Goldenwest. A promise was made of a
park on the block where the center had been. Selling this property to the highest bidder is
not what should happen. Can the council members assure that homes would not be built on this
block adding to the residences and traffic density in downtown? The thought of anything
beyond the maintenance cost for a two-acre park is unfair.
Sincerely,
Carol Comparsi
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From: Adele Crawford [crawfordadele5@g mail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 10:51 AM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy-, CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Agenda Item 26, "Rodgers' Park"
AGENDA COMMENT
Dear Council members,
As residents of Huntington Beach who live very near the proposed Rodgers' Park we STRONGLY
OPPOSE PUTTING THIS ISSUE ON THE BALLOT AGAIN.
We voted for a park before. The Council members should honor the wishes of the resident
voters.
Adele Crawford
609 16th Street
Huntington Beach
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From: Mike .Daly [hbsurfer@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 3:16 PM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: A message for the city council
AGENDA COMMENT
Mike.Da►y <hbsurfer(�,t!mail.com>
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Good afternoon Mayor Katapodis and Council,
I am writing you in regard to the agenda item to put Rodgers property on the ballot.
First off,I want to say,that if you have not read Can Swan's elaborate email,please do so.I would like to mirror every word,sentence,letter,number,and punctuation of her
email.._so please make note of her email if you have not done so yet.
I have lost faith in this city government,for the more I learn,the more my heart hurts for the people of Huntington Beach.We have a city administration that is mostly composed
of non-residents.We have groups of interests that do not represent the city,but large business here in HB,such as Rainbow.(I am talking to you Posey and DelGleize)It is time to
STOP representing these business connections,and representing the PEOPLE to whom you have been obligated to represent.I will NOT sit back and watch this city obsessively
sell off PUBLIC property to developers.I will make sure that every member of the Huntington Beach Community Forum knows the dirt on your hands when you put developers in
front of integrity.This election is an important one,and people will know you did this,I promise!(Mayor Katapodis,Pro-Tem Sullivan)
I find it IRONIC that you are attempting to make up some convenient wording to place on the SAMPLE BALLOT that was used to deceive the people of Huntington Beach in the
first place in 2006.The senior center was passed by 5 1%,on the bargaining of-
1,The funding from developer fees from Pacific City.-LIE,(you built it anyway).
2.That the Rodgers property would be kept for all of down town resident use.LIE(now you want to take that away)
This is COMPLETE disrespect to the office which you have been elected,to follow the will of the people whom you REPRESENT.This will not be forgotten,and I will make sure
of this!I am outraged by your agenda item Michael Posey!I am not sure who's orders you have been following(Chamber of Commerce/developers/Garofolo/Travis Allin?)but you
are WRONG,and everyone who goes with this agenda item is wrong as well!(Barbara).I implore you to listen to the words of the people on Monday,listen to Councilwoman
Hardy,Councilman Peterson.Public land does not belong to you,it belongs to all of us.It is our responsibility to protect that land,and all public land for future generations,that
they may have the same love for this city as we have,and generation past.I am beyond disappointed with this obsession to sell public land,and you should be ashamed Michael
Posey.You have sold your soul to your big business friends.I don't know where Councilman O'Connell stands,but I would hope that he would continue to be concerned with this
city selling Public property as he has in the past year and a half.
Councilman Sullivan,in 2006 you fought to bring this city this beautiful senior center,and I applaud your efforts,and we can all benefit in the future for it....but the vote passed by
5 1%,now make good on your promise of keeping that land for downtown residents use as you did to win that 5 1%. I guarantee if you told the voters that they would be paying the
bill,and selling the Rodgers site,you would have lost miserably and that new senior center would not exist.I am holding YOU to your promise.Do the right thing!
Thank you Councilwoman Hardy,your defense of public land is VERY admirable! Even our children's children will appreciate it.
Councilman Peterson,I trust that you will keep your ears and heart open to the people as usual.Thank you.
My email is very unprofessional,and unedited,but from the heart. I mean every word,and stand behind ever bit of it.
Thank you for your consideration,
Michael Daly(that HBCF guy) C,
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From: M Dardis[mdardis@verizon.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 12:05 PM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: City Council Agenda Item 26 , a IEq
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AGENDA COMMENT
Highly Distinguished Mayor and Members of the HB City Council:
There comes a time when it is necessary to listen to the voice of the people
in reference in selling the Rogers Senior Center property and converting
the area into High Density Development.
• Originally the land deed specified that in case of closure of the
Senior Center the land would be converted to a park. That was the
intent of the original owners. Converting this land to High Density
Development was not specified in the deed. The land should belong
to all the people of HB and not to a few.
• It is my understanding that there is a building debt owed to the
American Legion Post. They gave up their building with the promise
of equal treatment under the law of having a new building built by
the city of HB
• Suggest that the newest building structure be considered and upgrade
to fulfill the promise made to the American Legion whose members
contributed to defending and supporting the citizens of HB.
• In addition, you would be establishing a precedent where every park
in the city could be closed and High Density Development be built.
• The city of HB is known as the city of parks and now you want to
convert them to High Density Development to benefit a certain few
and remove another benefit for living in HB.
• To this date, we do not even know how the $100,000.00 was spent
for the Bicentennial and its 16 years later and still no accounting by
the HB City Council.
• Now you want the taxpaying citizens of HB to trust that $15M to $25
Million will be spent on park upgrades.
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For once, listen to the taxpaying citizens and convert this property into a
park. We simply. do not have the infrastructure in place to tolerate any
more High Density Development. Please take this under consideration and
vote to return Rogers Senior Center into a park to serve the community.
Milt Dardis
22052 Capistrano Lane
Huntington Beach Ca 92646
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From: Jonathan Fuchs Omfstrat@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 4:26 PM
To: CITY COUNCIL; Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Agenda Item 26 "Rogers Park"
AGENDA COMMENT
My concern is that the council is about to reconsider(again) what was previously decided regarding the future status of
the Senior Center/Rogers Park. Apart from the original covenants of the Chevron Deed which would be violated by
density development[and I would suspect subsequent lawsuits/legal action to preserve such covenants] to assert that the
'beach is nearby' is beyond credibility to void the intent. Many parents would not go to the beach with the
children....particularly in winter, and a park would be far more suitable....particularly if you don't want excessive sun
exposure. Further, not everyone has ready access to transportation and a local based park would be most welcome.
While enticing to add to the tax base, additional density in this area would be unwelcome.
Jonathan M. Fuchs, FACHE
18th Street, H B 92648
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From: Bill Gailing [Billg@socal.rr.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 2:12 PM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: STRONGLY Oppose Item 26 on the Agenda. (Your proposed sale of Hunt Beach Sr. Center
Property)
Importance: High
AGENDA COMMENT
WE THE RESIDENTS OF HUNTINGTON BEACH WERE PROMISED A PARK...
We expect a park and will fight this proposal no matter how many times Posey
puts it on the agenda !!!!
Bill & Elaine Gailing
505 17th Street
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From: Dombo, Johanna
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 3:02 PM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: FW: Roger's Senior Center site
AGENDA COMMENT
From:Jennifer Goger [mai Ito:iengoger@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday,July 13, 2016 2:59 PM
To: Dominguez, David; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Roger's Senior Center site
I ask the city council to please keep the promise to return the Senior Center (Rodger's Sr Ctr site) to the
residents of HB as a community space and/or park.
Your current recommendation to hold a non-binding advisory vote is still advocating for breaking the promise
made to the voters of Huntington Beach.
This is a very important issue for me and my family.
Jennifer Goger
622 16th St
Huntington Beach 92648
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From: Judy Gustafson 0udygustafson@verizon.net]
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 4:58 AM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: I Oppose Agenda Item 26
AGENDA COMMENT
Dear Mayor Katapodis and Council members,
I am writing to oppose agenda item 26 for the following reasons:
1. Citizens already voted on and passed ballot Measure T which contained language promising a park in its ballot
argument in 2006.
2. To ask the community at large to decide if one area of the city should be lose their park to maintain funding for the rest
of the city is divisive. It would enable any neighborhood's park to be destroyed if the rest of the city wanted to sell it to the
highest bidder. Soon we'd have no parks left in our city as neighborhood is pitted against neighborhood in a divisive
battle.
3. To sacrifice our green spaces and recreational areas for a one time increase in revenue is irresponsible because once
sold, we can never recover our park lands.
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From: oceanhb@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 12:14 PM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Rodgers Senior Center park
AGENDA COMMENT
Dear City Council,
I vehemently opposed the idea of selling the Rodgers Park land to be sold and developed into
homes. Selling off existing land to pay current debts in NOT the way to go. When will the
madness stop? When we run out of green/open spaces.
10 years ago in 2006 Ballot measure T was approved for the New Senior Center with the promise
to keep the land for public use. Is this City Council reneging on that passed ballot measure?
There is a major outcry of the citizens of HB to Save Rodgers Park and if it is not saved
changes will be made when We The People go back to the polls.
Cathy Haro
9531 smokey Circle
HB 92646
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From: Eileen Harris [eharris@windes.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 9:22 AM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: I oppose Agenda Item 26 - STOP High Density development!
AGENDA COMMENT
Dear Council Members:
I am writing to OPPOSE agenda item 26 for the following reasons:
1. High Density is destroying the community I love.
2. Traffic has increased tremendously.
3. A promise was made to the community and we expect promises to be kept.
4. We need more open space and more parks.
5. Selling park space is never the solution.
Save our parks and stop high density!
Thank you,
Eileen Harris
Huntington Beach resident
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From: Nancy harris [nancyharrishb@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 12:33 PM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Agenda Item 26
AGENDA COMMENT
I oppose Agenda Item 26. STOP any further High Density Development in Huntington Beach.
Nancy Harris
(714)846-0916
18002 Hartfield Circle
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From: Ty Hatfield [parentingheart@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 11:06 PM
To: Agenda Comment; CITY COUNCIL
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Rodgers' Park Aggenda#26
AGENDA COMMENT
Please do not approve that this go to vote. This is a very unethical maneuver. Who gets to say that one area can't have a
park at the expense of paying for other areas. You each know that the earlier ballot language was very clear to trade parkland
for the senior center for Rodgers' Park. WE and our neighbors our furious over this desperate behavior.
"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
—Martin Luther King Jr.
Ty& Linda Hatfield
313 20th Street
Linda &Ty Hatfield
www.ParentingFromTheHeart.com
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From: Judith Hendler Uhendler@socal.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 10:02 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL; Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: agenda item 26, "Rodgers' Park"
AGENDA COMMENT
Please uphold the decision of the voters to keep Rodgers park as an open recreational space.This is public land and
should remain so. Once you start overturning voters decisions on the use of public property for private use, all public
property is endangered. Please be a council person of integrity and carry out what the public consensus was regarding
the new senior center and the return of Rodgers park as a public open space for all Huntington beach residents
Thank you,
Judith Hendler
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From: Dombo, Johanna
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 8:41 AM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL .
Subject: FW: Save Rodgers Park
AGENDA COMMENT
-----Original Message-----
From: Dolores Hill [mailto:hillslifeRsocal. rr.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 9:25 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Save Rodgers Park
We live in The Peninsula in HB. . .we want to see more parks, not less. More of Central Park
was taken up by the new Senior Center. . .the decision has already been made to transform the
old Senior Center into a park. . .so stick to your word.
We have way to many new multilevel structures in HB lately. . .traffic is getting ridiculous
We don't need another ballot measure . . .quit wasting time and money and stick to your
original commitment
Dolores Hill
6537 Fremont Circle
HB
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Dear City Council:
After attending the Community Services 7/12 meeting and hearing discussion both from the public and those on the
Community Services it was clear that open space zoning should remain for the Rodgers Senior Center site. We lost 5
acres in Central Park, must we lose this acreage for park space as well?
As President of Huntington Beach Tomorrow, I can report we have supported retention of the current zoning for this
property. Now for my personal comments.
If$1,500,000 is needed to keep Rodgers for park space and community use, while more is needed to do more with the
site, we must find a way to fund retention of the site. It is not right to sell off park space to fund the rest of the parks.
Once sold, it is gone.
Here are some thoughts from me after attending the 7/12 meeting:
1. It is correct for an appointed representative on a board or commission to bring forth an item for the agenda and
I do hope one will appear on their future agenda related to Rodgers Senior Center Site with suggestions for it to
City Council. For that reason I request you defer addressing this item until they have an opportunity to do so.
2. It is correct for a council member to bring forward an item on the council agenda but the timing of when that
item is heard is affected by when staff has enough information to present the item properly. Since there was no
presentation at the Community Services meeting, I am assuming there is also not sufficient data yet to assess
costs for Rodgers other than we know there are carrying costs,that there would be demolition costs if city were
to remove all or part of the buildings and/or paving in order to provide more landscaped and less paved open
space. My request is that you delay hearing this item until the public has time to review costs as well as our
elected representatives on the City Council. If you had the information, why was it withheld at Community
Services?
3. 1 believe the people who would use the parks downtown would volunteer to assist with improvement of
Rodgers site, to donate to a fund to assist with costs to improve it,possibly with 1:1 matching from general
fund. Let's ask them and ask our community.
4. By encouraging a mix of families, retired persons, apartment residents and businesses downtown, we are more
likely to keep the area vital and quality of life for residents means having open space. We will have less police
issues if we have strong sense of community downtown which includes having parks and places to meet in the
community.
5. More information is needed on possible use of Rodgers for veterans before something is brought forward for
even an advisory vote.
6. There is a cost to put items on the ballot and if they are put there they need to be simple, straightforward and
not ask multiple questions
Since I have served on several bodies that addressed infrastructure, I know parks are a lower priority for spending
infrastructure funds and that fees for development or redevelopment are not sufficient to fund parks. Therefore, other
funding sources need to be found. We have parks throughout our city and we also have some maps that divide our city
into sections. These maps were referred to when there was discussion of community facilities districts, for various items
like quicker paving in some neighborhoods if they were willing to pay for it as an example. Although nothing has yet to
come of those discussions, it is now time to discuss how to fund our parks. Make a map of where the parks are located,
what areas they serve and what it costs to maintain each of these parks,that is transparency. A future proposition could
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be related to funding the shortfall of 12 million for our parks and how and why these funds would be apportioned. Do
we go for a bond? Do we go for a parcel tax?Or do we raise funds independent of city government?
Karen Jackie
Karen@piackle.com
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From: Dombo, Johanna
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 2:37 PM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: FW: Rodgers Park
AGENDA COMMENT
From:Jeff jacobs [mailto:bigiiacobs@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday,July 13, 2016 2:25 PM
To: Dominguez, David; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Rodgers Park
To: Community Services Commission and the City Council:
We are asking you to please honor the commitment that was made to the residents of Huntington Beach. Do not sell
Rodgers Park.
Sincerely,
Jeff and Nancy Jacobs
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From: Catherine Johnson [catherineannjohnson@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 1:32 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL; Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Agenda Item 26
AGENDA COMMENT
Hi Mayor Katapodis and City Council,
I'm writing today to let you know that I am strongly opposed to Agenda item 26. I feel that
the proposed ballot language is deceptive, that such a vote will be divisive for our city,
and that the residents (from all over the city) have already spoken on this issue. Numerous
times.
A promise was made. It is your duty as an elected official to keep it.
Thank you.
Catherine Johnson
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From: Chuck Johnson [chuck.johnson@associa.us]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 12:48 PM
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Dear Councilmembers,
I am writing to express my opposition to the proposed Agenda Item 26 Regarding the sale of Rodgers Senior center.
As you are well aware, the land was deeded to the city by what is now Chevron with a Covenant that stated that it would
be
used for recreation in perpetuity.The fact that the city usurped the deed by dubious means does not cancel the ethical
responsibility to do as the organization that made the gift insisted. Selling the property and dedicating the funds to other
parks
was not what was intended. It was meant for public recreational use in the location that it occupies.
The residents of this City are already expecting that if the City were to be successful in this misguided plan, that City
Administrators would simply deposit the funds in the account for Parks and recreation and then shift existing funds to
the general fund for whatever you choose
to do with it.You will be heavily monitored in this event. Don't even go there.
Councilmember Posey's insistence that we will "Lose" 14 million dollars is ludicrous. If Councilmember Posey inherited a
2 million dollar house and decided to live in it rather than sell it would he "Lose" 2 million dollars?What kind of logic is
this? But then again it is expected
from a councilmember that no longer feels any responsibility to the electorate .That situation may be rectified very
soon. Keep up the
intransigence and continue to thumb your nose at the people who got you elected and you will find that all the Chamber
resources in the world wont stop an effort to toss you off the council. We are well past the halfway point to enough
contacts, addresses, phone numbers and email addresses of verified residents of this city that will support your ouster.
Another 45-60 days of effort will complete that project.
Councilmember Delglieze, please stop being a mouthpiece for the Chamber of Commerce and backing every
development scheme, good or bad that comes along.Your council seat is also at serious risk. It would be a tragedy for
someone who tried multiple times to win a seat, only to be rejected repeatedly. Don't let the next vote on your behalf
be an up or down vote that results in yet another absolute rejection.
Councilmember Sullivan's pathetic flip flop will only trash his legacy.The perception is now that Dave Sullivan has no
integrity anymore
and is not a man of his word. Dave, reconsider. Is this how you wish to be rememebered...
Mayor Katapodis... you continue to be an enigma.You did the right thing with regards to the FIDD MAND. This
demonstrates your common sense. Please don't stop now....
I will personally sue to stop the leading verbiage that you have specified in your resolution. I have the timetable printed
and taped above my desk highlighted in yellow..l will wait till the absolute last second so I burn
as much time off of your timetable and stop this stupid idea from getting on the ballot.
Are you ready for another long night? I am personally tired of you screwing up my Monday nights so that I can come
down and fight this stupid thing. But no doubt, the lines will be out the door with outraged people asking you to stop
this crap. When are you going to start listening?
Thank You,
Chuck Johnson.
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Please keep our Rodgers Park a park and do not sell it off! We need our open space downtown to have a
place for our kids to play! I know this will be discussed at tonight's city council meeting. I can't make it to
the meeting but I want my voice heard on this issue. The promise should be kept to return the old senior
center site to a park.
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been entered into the Pipeline system and will also be forwarded to the City Clerk to be included in the
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From: Lisa Kemp [lisakemp@verizon.net]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 5:53 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL; Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Agenda item 26
AGENDA COMMENT
I am a local citizen living in the downtown area. I oppose Agenda item 26. The old Rogers
Senior Center was relocated with the promise that the existing center would remain a park.
Measure "T" was only passed because of this assurance. This type of "bait and switch"
behavior only causes more distrust of our city council. Please allow the land to become a
park as originally promised.
Lisa Kemp
Concerned citizen
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From: Dombo, Johanna
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 2:46 PM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: FW: Rogers Park
AGENDA COMMENT
From:Jeff Kessinger [mailto:ikessingerPearthiink.net]
Sent:Wednesday,July 13, 2016 2:45 PM
To: CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Rogers Park
Please note That I am opposed to any action, wording of a ballot, or any other posturing with regard to the
Old Rogers Senior center property that could lead to any disposition other than to perpetuate this property as
park space for the people of Huntington Beach. This includes any sale of the property. I am highly concerned
that this is even up for discussion as the perpetual intent of this property has already been determined by the
people. The use of distorted and incomprehensive ballot language has already been observed, is clearly
unethical, and is revealing as to the nature of our community leaders. I will be watching and sharing with my
community.
Jeff Kessinger
Huntington Beach Resident
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From: James F Kirk Uimkirk4patents@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 1:51 PM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: I Oppose Item 26 on the Agenda. (Your proposed sale of Hunt Beach Sr. Center Property)
AGENDA COMMENT
Land in the down town area is in short supply and the property was promised for continued use of the down
town area and residents.
Do you have an area in which a helicopter can be landed? Probably not since Huntington Beach does not have
an airport. That site might be useful for the occasional emergencies that the such as fire, police, medical,
(maritime, beach control) services might need it for in the area. That area is a long distance from a freeway so
its use for emergency support could be important. The beach area is not that far from it and there is a lot of
activity on the beach in that area at times for which support from a local landing site could be important.
In the not too distant past, it is also a site that has benefited the local seniors with volunteer training in courses
in fields relating to computers without the high cost that is now being imposed in the Adult Education area with
paid instructors. Those volunteer courses were usually filled when I went to sign up so they were well used. So
that facility and area could find further use as a center for training for adults or for those unemployed who are
interested in production or construction skills not available at low cost.
Jim Kirk
Retired resident of Huntington Beach
16411 Ladona Circle, Huntington Beach, CA 92649-2133 (714) 840-1403
Pilot who used a multi-altitude motor vehicle to commute to work for 8 years, (1990 - 1998 using KLGB) after
the closing of Meadowlark Airport in 1988..
There is no shortage of space for new high density housing on the old El Toro Airport where the folks in Irvine
can enjoy the added traffic of their new neighbors that sold the 4400 acres for 114 Million.
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From: Dombo, Johanna
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 8:13 AM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy, CITY COUNCIL
Subject: FW: Rodgers Senior Center
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-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Kornicks [mailto:akornickspaol.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 7:42 PM
To: CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Rodgers Senior Center
Huntington Beach City Council:
As a citizen of Huntington Beach I am scratching my head and wondering what you are thinking,
when it comes to the Rodgers property. Especially with some of the ridiculous statements
made about the beach being our park!
As Council members, it appears that you are shucking your responsibility to the community.
Can you say the prior vote on this property?
I question any money matters that maybe used, after all, you have approved the traffic, and
density issues on Edinger! ! ! Perhaps the developers should have contributed more to our
city.
Let's not forget the affordable housing issue that's been created. Perhaps the developers
should of allocated units for this matter.
Less I have regressed! ! Oh, what about the private Overlook street that we maintain, yet
it's closed at one end!
Finally, I ask you to not allow any more density in this area, and to do the right thing, and
put a park in, even if it requires a small assessment!
It's time the Council listen to the residents, and not the developers that only care about
themselves. We have had enough of traffic congestion!
Thanks for taking the time to have read this email, and vote no on any further development,
and create a park for all of us in the city.
Sincerely,
Alan Kornicks "yS an ,
407 19th Street _::,r , ,,.. u
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From: Paul Makris [p_makris@msn.com]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 8:10 PM
To: Agenda Comment; city-council@surfcity-hb.org
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Agenda Item 26 "Rogers' Park"
AGENDA COMMENT
I live on 18th Street in downtown Huntington Beach. My grandkids do not have a park nearby and it is often
difficult or inappropriate to bring them to the beach. We need space for our children to grow, be active and
safe. We need the park originally intended for the Rogers Senior Center site. I understand the property was
originally deeded to the City for that purpose and that request should be honored.
In addition there is insufficient parking in this area during the summer. I often go to work on Saturdays and
when I come home cannot find a parking space as the beach parking takes over. Adding housing on this site
will only add to the problem.
Do not be mislead by the allure of some short term easy money. There is no other site for a park in this area.
Quality of life will degrade. Subverting the intent of the donor sends a horrible message to the community.
Do you really want that?
Paul Makris
326 18th street
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From: Dombo, Johanna
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 8:34 AM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: FW: Rodgers Park
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From: Stephen or Michelle Marciniec [mailto:marciniecs@verizon.net]
Sent:Thursday,July 14, 2016 8:09 PM
To: CITY COUNCIL
Cc: 'Catherine Johnson'
Subject: Rodgers Park
Dear Council Members,
I'm writing to express my disappointment and frustration at agenda item 26 for the July 18 meeting. Looking at
my notes from the April 18 meeting, it appeared that you directed CSC to get the whole community involved by
determining the most urgent recreational needs as expressed by the community. Thank you to Erik,Jill and Dave for
your positive comments about pubic use and honoring the original spirit of the deed. Last night, CSC voted down an
agenda item similar to item 26 and their comments were exceptionally logical and reasonable—you don't sell public
parkland to pay on-going expenses as a method to balance city spending, especially in an area where there is no local
open space for children or adults to enjoy.
Also, the ballot measure as written is not a yes or no question; it is an A or B question designed to confuse voters as well
as set neighborhoods against each other. This is after a previous 2006 vote in which a few people voted for the senior
center as long as the old Rodgers site would continue on for downtown residents and every citizen. Please do not fall
for the fallacious and ridiculous argument that selling parkland is fiscally responsible. It is just a devious way to raise
revenue while hurting taxpayers that you promised would not pay a cent for the new senior center.
Please vote no for item 26.
Yours truly,
Michelle and Stephen Marciniec
327 181h Street
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From: ANNE [annesmail@socal.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 9:05 PM
To: Agenda Comment
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Subject: Ballot measure T
From: ANNE <annesmailosocal.rr.com> Agenda Item No.
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To: city.councilosurfcity-hb.org
CC: Dear Mayor Katapodis and Council members,
I am writing to OPPOSE agenda item 26 for the following reasons:
1.Ballot Measure T which passed in 2006 used the following ballot argument."An added benefit
is returning the existing senior center to all downtown residents use."Was this merely a LIE
to sell the community on passage of new center??? It is no wonder there is such a tremendous
lack of trust in our elected officials. There was a promise made to the community and
anything short of KEEPING THIS PROMISE is 100% UNACCEPTABLE!
2.This ballot measure is irresponsible and extraordinarily divisive. Asking the community at
large to decide if one area of the city should be entitled to a park in order to maintain
funding for the rest of the city is flat-out wrong and divisive. This will open the door
where the community as a whole can vote away MY NEIGHBORHOOD park, or ANY NEIGHBORHOOD park.
Our elected officials serve the entire city and it is incumbent upon all of you to provide
for all the city and not divide us.
3.While I am very clear that H.B. struggles with our unfunded liabilities, SELLING PARK SPACE
IS NOT THE SOLUTION! We must dig-in and correct the root of our funding issues including
serious pension reform, and not expect to sell away open space, piece by piece. This ballot
measure is a very irresponsible approach to addressing revenue for park maintenance or any
other funding.
4.Our city has seen more than 3,000 High Density apartment units put upon us in just a few
short years. The downtown area has changed dramatically with so many lots changing from one
home to two homes. In addition, we just consumed approx. 5 acres in Central Park to develop
the Senior Center. This proposed ballot measure is clearly taking H.B. in the WRONG
direction!
I did not attended the Community Services Commission meeting on Wed. - 7/13, but I am aware
that Commissioner Moffatt brought this same agenda item up for consideration. I was very
pleased to learn that an overwhelming majority of the Commission (8-2) voted NO on this
proposal. The eight dissenting members echoed my thoughts above and more. They spoke
concisely that this is NOT the right direction for H.B. In addition, many from the community
spoke against this proposal.
I urge you to join with me and the Community Services Board and reject Agenda Item 26.
Thank you,
Anne McGuire
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From: Dombo, Johanna
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 5:16 PM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: FW: Rodger's Park
AGENDA COMMENT
-----Original Message-----
From: Lois McKay [mailto:silvertabby(@rocketmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 4:34 PM
To: CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Rodger's Park
Please do not break the promise to the voters to create Rodger's Park.
Very truly yours
Lois McKay
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From: Dombo, Johanna
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 1:58 PM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: FW: Rogers Senior Center Park- Keep your Promise
AGENDA COMMENT
From: Hotmail-Kirk [mailto:kirk nason@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday,July 13, 2016 1:37 PM
To: Dominguez, David; CITY COUNCIL
Cc: 'Mary Nason'
Subject: Rogers Senior Center Park- Keep your Promise
City Council, I continue to favor keeping the downtown old Rogers Senior Center land as a park.
We have very little free space downtown and oppose selling this property for home or business use.
It is key for residents of all ages to have open land to enjoy!!
A promise was made to keep this a park, don't break your promise!!
Regards,
Kirk 3. Nason & Mary L. Nason
714 321-7298 (c)
kirk nasonphotmail.com
First recipient of the "HB Goes Green" home award
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From: Lauren Perkins [mslsheehan@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 3:05 PM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Agenda Item 26
AGENDA COMMENT
I strongly OPPOSE agenda item 26! Please put a stop to High density developments!
Sincerely a concerned H.B. resident,
Lauren Perkins
COMMUNICATION
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From: Pat Pitts [ppitts@socal.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 1:54 PM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: City Council Agenda Item 26
AGENDA COMMENT
I oppose Agenda Item 26. STOP any further High
Density development.
Patricia Pitts
42 year HB resident.
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From: Dombo, Johanna
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 10:11 AM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: FW: Agenda item 26
AGENDA COMMENT
From: Linda Polkinghorne [mailto:lapolkinghorn@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday,July 18, 2016 10:07 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL
Subject:Agenda item 26
So after you promised to keep the land that the old senior center was on now you want to sell it !!!!! What's
wrong with some of you....oh yeah your selfish politicians who don't ever think of the people who live here. Sell
it for what....more of your stupid high density housing. You guys need to stop destroying our city any more than
you already have.
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From: Barbara Robinson [barbarakrobinson@hotm ail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 7:52 PM SUPPLEMENTAL
To: Agenda Comment COMMUNICATION
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: I urge you to vote no on Item 26 //�
Meeting Date: 7
AGENDA COMMENT
Agenda Item P3ae
My name is Barbara Robinson. I've lived in HB 38 years, more than half of my life. I urge you to vote 'no' on
item 26. This issue does not need to be placed on the ballot, again. It was on the 2006 ballot. The voters have
spoken. It is now up to the City Council to abide by the decision of the voters.
In essence, the 2006 ballot said, 'if you give us 5.5 acres for a new senior center we'll give you back 2.2 acres
for a public park'. This was never a fair exchange, but it passed. You can't go back now and say, "We got what
we want, now we're going to renege on what we promised to give you in exchange."
That vote barely passed, at 49.1%to 50.9%. Is there anyone anywhere who believes it would have passed at
all without that promise to retain the site of the former Rodgers Senior Center for it's true highest and best
use - that of a city park for public use?
If by some miscarriage of justice this issue ends up on a ballot, the egregiously biased wording must go.
"Highest and best use"? Who says selling a public park is its highest and best use?That may be your highly
subjective opinion but it is not an objective fact and should not be used to imply to voters that it is fact. How is
the sale of this public property the best use of this park space? If it is sold, it would be gone forever. Gone.
Final. What happened to "Parks Make Life Better"? Does that motto only apply when it's convenient?
The ballot should read, "Should voters expect their elected representatives to abide by their, that is the
voters', decisions?" Or perhaps, "Should voters give their elected representatives another opportunity to
redirect even more funds rather than keeping their promises?" And it should not read, "Do you want money
in to our budget for the sale vs. money spent to create a park?" either. That is overly simple, omitting many of
the important issues.
Will voters be reminded of the other instances when promises for the use of income have been re-directed
once another need arises? At last Wednesday's meeting, I heard a CSC commissioner refer to this plan as
"robbing Peter to pay Paul" and that is exactly what it is. Will the ballot materials explain to voters that once
one city park is sacrificed, no other park grounds in the city will be safe from development? Will this be just
the first of many such sales, until every square inch of public land in HB is built up? As long as the sale of each
park is presented one at a time, each area will be pitted against the rest of the city's voters for the city's
severely limited funds.
After all, now that all city classes and activities have been moved to the new senior center, as evidenced by
the latest Community Sands catalog, why do we need any other parks or facilities?
Why is it that there is no Hippocratic oath for politicians? Shouldn't there be an expectation of'First, do no
harm' for the public good? When it's too late for 'first, do no harm', the best we can hope for is 'do no further
harm'. Vote NO on this item.
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Thank you for this opportunity to express my thoughts on this issue,
Barbara Robinson
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From: Dombo, Johanna
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 9:06 AM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: FW: Agenda item 26 "Rodgers' Park"
AGENDA COMMENT
-----Original Message-----
From: Mail [mailto:rrrpsybus(@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 8:26 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Agenda item 26 "Rodgers' Park"
We have voted on this before.
Why is it still unclear that we want & expect the council to honor their promise to make this
space a city park?
Did some council members not get the response they wanted and expect that asking for repeated
votes will wear us down and allow them to do what they want without our approval?
Ray Robinson
511 Seventeenth Street
Huntington Beach, CA 92648
Sent from my iPhone
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From: Tina Ruiz [christinaruiz4@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 3:18 AM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: OPPOSE Agenda Item 26
AGENDA COMMENT
Dear Mayor Katapodis and Council members,
I am writing to OPPOSE agenda item 26 for the following reasons:
1. Ballot Measure T which passed in 2006 used the following ballot argument. "An added benefit is
returning the existing senior center to all downtown residents use." Was this merely a LIE to sell the
community on passage of new center??? It is no wonder there is such a tremendous lack of trust in our elected
officials. There was a promise made to the community and anything short of KEEPING THIS PROMISE is
100% UNACCEPTABLE!
2. This ballot measure is irresponsible and extraordinarily divisive. Asking the community at large to decide if
one area of the city should be entitled to a park in order to maintain funding for the rest of the city is flat-out
wrong and divisive.This will open the door where the community as a whole can vote away MY
NEIGHBORHOOD park, or ANY NEIGHBORHOOD park. Our elected officials serve the entire city and it is
incumbent upon all of you to provide for all the city and not divide us.
3. While I am very clear that HB struggles with our unfunded liabilities, SELLING PARK SPACE IS NOT
THE SOLUTION! We must dig-in and correct the root of our funding issues including serious pension reform,
and not expect to sell away open space, piece by piece. This ballot measure is a very irresponsible approach to
addressing revenue for park maintenance or any other funding.
4. Our city has seen more than 3,000 High Density apartment units put upon us in just a few short years. The
downtown area has changed dramatically with so many lots changing from one home to two homes. In addition,
we just consumed approx. 5 acres in Central Park to develop the Senior Center. This proposed ballot measure is
clearly taking HB in the WRONG direction!
I attended the Community Services Commission meeting on Wed., 7/13, where Commissioner Moffatt brought
this same agenda item for consideration. I was very pleased that an overwhelming majority of the Commission
(8-2) voted NO on this proposal. The eight dissenting members echoed my thoughts above and more. They
spoke concisely that this is NOT the right direction for HB. In addition, many from the community spoke
against this proposal.
I urge you to join with me and the Community Services Board and reject Agenda Item 26.
Thank you,
Christina Ruiz
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From: NRDKMOM@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 12:07 PM
To: Agenda Comment; Fikes, Cathy
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: AGENDA ITEM 26
AGENDA COMMENT
I am opposed to agenda item 26 and reject any further building on that property. It should be a park for all to
enjoy. Our city does not need anymore high density building. What we have has already created a blight on
our once beautiful beach community. Please to do force anymore structures on us. We need parks much
more than buildings.
Barbara Shepard
46 year resident of Huntington Beach
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From: Barbara Smith [basmith10@verizon.net]
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 2:48 PM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Senior center property
AGENDA COMMENT
"I oppose Agenda Item 26. STOP any further High Density development!
SdUPPLEMENTAL
COMMUNICATION
Meeting Date:
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From: Ann Sparks [annmariehsparks@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 4:05 PM
To: CITY COUNCIL; Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Save Rodgers' Park!
AGENDA COMMENT
Please vote no on Agenda item 26! The residents of Huntington Beach have already proven they want and need
a park. It's a waste of time and money to have any vote.
Like commmunity services says, parks make life better.
Respectfully,
Ann Sparks
50 year resident
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Agjaan a !tern No.
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From: Cari Swan [cswanie@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:47 AM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: OPPOSE AGENDA ITEM 26
AGENDA COMMENT
Dear Mayor Katapodis and Council members,
I am writing to OPPOSE agenda item 26 for the following reasons:
1. Ballot Measure T which passed in 2006 used the following ballot argument. "An added benefit
is returning the existing senior center to all downtown residents use." Was this merely a LIE to
sell the community on passage of new center??? It is no wonder there is such a tremendous lack of
trust in our elected officials. There was a promise made to the community and anything short of
KEEPING THIS PROMISE is 100% UNACCEPTABLE!
2. This ballot measure is irresponsible and extraordinarily divisive. Asking the community at large to
decide if one area of the city should be entitled to a park in order to maintain funding for the rest of
the city is flat-out wrong and divisive. This will open the door where the community as a whole can
vote away MY NEIGHBORHOOD park, or ANY NEIGHBORHOOD park. Our elected officials serve
the entire city and it is incumbent upon all of you to provide for all the city and not divide us.
3. While I am very clear that HB struggles with our unfunded liabilities, SELLING PARK SPACE IS
NOT THE SOLUTION! We must dig-in and correct the root of our funding issues including serious
pension reform, and not expect to sell away open space, piece by piece. This ballot measure is a
very irresponsible approach to addressing revenue for park maintenance or any other funding.
4. Our city has seen more than 3,000 High Density apartment units put upon us in just a few short
years. The downtown area has changed dramatically with so many lots changing from one home to
two homes. In addition, we just consumed approx. 5 acres in Central Park to develop the Senior
Center. This proposed ballot measure is clearly taking HB in the WRONG direction!
I attended the Community Services Commission meeting on Wed., 7/13, where Commissioner Moffatt
brought this same agenda item for consideration. I was very pleased that an overwhelming majority
of the Commission (8-2) voted NO on this proposal. The eight dissenting members echoed my
thoughts above and more. They spoke concisely that this is NOT the right direction for HB. In
addition, many from the community spoke against this proposal.
I urge you to join with me and the Community Services Board and reject Agenda Item 26.
Thank you, EAU P ` . EMENT L
Cari Swan COMMUNICATION
13,e"ing Date.
Agenda Item No.
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From: Deanne Thompson [deannewthompson@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 2:14 PM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Fwd: Vote No on Agenda Item#26 SUPPLEMENTAL
COMMUNICATION
AGENDA COMMENT
Meeting Date: 74 1 //,C
Dear Mayor Katapodis and Council Members, Agenda Item No.
To say I was dismayed when I read Agenda Item 26 on next week's council agenda would be an
understatement. Councilman Posey's proposal to request a Ballot Measure to determine whether or
not to sell the land occupied by the Rodger's Senior Center is not just tone-deaf, it is completely
contrary to what the voters were promised when we voted to build the new senior center.
The residents of Huntington Beach have already made their voices heard on this proposal. To
review:
1. The 2006 ballot measure to build the new senior center, which the voters approved, included this
language: "An added benefit is returning the existing senior center to all downtown residents
use." In effect, the residents have already voted to keep this property as a public resource.
2. When a similar proposal was discussed at a council meeting earlier this year, the residents spoke
out overwhelmingly in opposition to any plan that allowed development of that land. We were led to
believe that the developer walked away from the project because of the fierce public opposition, not
wanting to fund a ballot measure that was doomed to fail. It now appears that the same forces are
aligned once again to approach the issue with a different tactic and reward the patient developer who
will avoid having to fund the ballot measure.
3. The Community Services Commission considered a similar proposal earlier this week, and an
overwhelming majority of the members voted No. There was, once again, vocal opposition from the
public and many of the Commission members echoed those same sentiments when casting their
votes.
In addition, the language of the proposed Ballot Measure is misleading and divisive.
"Shall the City sell the former Rodgers Seniors' Center site for the highest and best use with all
proceeds, estimated to be up to $14 million, designated to fund citywide park improvements, or
shall the City expend approximately $1.5 million and commit to ongoing maintenance costs for
the development of a two-acre park?""
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"Highest and best use" is subjective language, and is misleading. Asking people if they want to sell
open space in someone else's neighborhood so that the city can fund park improvements in other
parts of the city is disingenuous and unfair. Posing the question as if it is a choice between realizing a
net gain that benefits the city at large, or investing money in one location that will incur additional
maintenance costs, is deceptive and calculated to minimize the impact of selling open space in one of
the city's most densely populated neighborhoods.
No one disputes that the City is facing significant financial challenges. We all understand that the city
must grow its tax base and maximize revenues wherever it can, but over development is not the answer.
Selling our city, parcel by parcel, to the highest bidder is not a long term solution for financial
solvency. It is instead shortsighted, benefits only a handful of developers and investors, and further
burdens our already limited city resources and infrastructure.
I urge you to vote No on Agenda Item Number 26. This issue has already been decided by the voters,
and we need to respect that vote.
Sincerely,
Deanne Thompson
20802 Sparkman Lane
Huntington Beach, CA 92646
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From: Dombo, Johanna
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 8:13 AM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: FW: Agenda item26,Rodgers' Park
AGENDA COMMENT
From: Bill Tomsic [mailto:billtomsic@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday,July 17, 2016 4:42 PM
To: CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Agenda item26,Rodgers' Park
Why can,t you politicians keep your word and promises? Why upset the residents again?
How many times will the same old story have to be told?
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Billtomsic@ ,�mail.com
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From: Janice Ugland Danugland@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 10:28 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL
Cc: Agenda Comment; Fikes, Cathy-, CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Vote No; Agenda Item 26
AGENDA COMMENT
Dear City Council:
I'm writing to state my opposition to Agenda Item 26 concerning Rodgers Park. Please, find it within yourselves
to vote no. You're elected to represent the needs and desires of the residents within the city of which you serve.
The residents have spoken loud and clear as to what is direly needed; taxpayers have spoken and our future, the
children, have spoken. Please, listen. Thank you for your consideration.
Always,
Janice E. Ugland
C 0 M M U H I CAT i U.-M
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Esparza, Patty
From: Dombo, Johanna
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:05 AM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: FW: Rodgers park
AGENDA COMMENT
-----Original Message-----
From: lena vergara [mailto:lenavergara(@icloud.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 8:27 PM
To: CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Rodgers park
Hello city council-
I am writing to let you know that I am opposed to the sale of land on which the former senior
center sits.
If citizens
Had know this was a possibility they would not have voted for the new senior center.
We are losing open space and parkland. Please keep This land for the enjoyment of all.
Thank you
Lena Vergara
Huntington Beach
LMTL
COMMUNICATION
Meeting Cate:
Agenda Item No.
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From: Linda Wentzel [lindamarieofhb@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 10:15 AM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Agenda Item 26
AGENDA COMMENT
Dear Mayor Katapodis and Council members,
I am writing to OPPOSE agenda item 26 for the following reasons:
1. Ballot Measure T which passed in 2006 used the following ballot argument. "An added benefit is
returning the existing senior center to all downtown residents use." Was this an attempt to sell
the community on passage of new center? It is no wonder there is such a lack of trust of our elected
officials. There was a promise made to the community and anything short of KEEPING THIS
PROMISE is 100% UNACCEPTABLE!
2. This ballot measure is irresponsible and extraordinarily divisive. Asking the community at large to
decide if one area of the city should be entitled to a park in order to maintain funding for the rest of
the city is flat-out wrong and divisive. This will open the door where the community as a whole can
vote away MY NEIGHBORHOOD park, or ANY NEIGHBORHOOD park. Our elected officials serve
the entire city and it is incumbent upon all of you to provide for all the city and not divide us.
3. While I am very clear that HB struggles with our unfunded liabilities, SELLING PARK SPACE IS
NOT THE SOLUTION! We must dig-in and correct the root of our funding issues including serious
pension reform, and not expect to sell away open space, piece by piece. This ballot measure is
clearly an approach to addressing revenue for park maintenance.
4. Our city has seen more than 3,000 High Density apartment units put upon us in just a few short
years. The downtown area has changed dramatically with so many lots changing from one home to
two homes. In addition, we just consumed approx. 5 acres in Central Park to develop the Senior
Center. This proposed ballot measure is clearly taking HB in the WRONG direction!
At the Community Services Commission meeting on Wed., 7/13, Commissioner Moffatt brought this
same agenda item for consideration. I was very pleased to see that an overwhelming majority of the
Commission (8-2) voted NO on this proposal. The eight dissenting members echoed my thoughts
above. They spoke concisely that this is NOT the right direction for HB. In addition, many from the
community spoke against this proposal.
I urge you to join with me and the Community Services Board and REJECT Agenda Item 26.
Thank you,
Linda WentzelCOMMUNICATION
lindamaneofhbrQmail.com
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From: Dombo, Johanna
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 8:55 AM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: FW: Agenda Item 26, "Rodgers' Park
AGENDA COMMENT
From: Elizabeth Williams [mailto:iiz ms �ma l.d:)m]
Sent: Saturday,July 16, 2016 11:23 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL; agendacomment@surfcity-org
Subject:Agenda Item 26, "Rodgers' Park
Dear Council Members:
As a 38 year resident of Huntington Beach, I have seen both the best and worst of council members' decision
making. It is always disturbing when members vote against the wishes of the community and instead decide the
profits and greed of certain businesses and/or individuals are more important. Specifically, the site of the
recently closed Rogers Senior Center was deeded by Chevron for the purpose of a community park to be
enjoyed by the community and instead, Council Member Posey is once again trying to undermine the explicit
needs of our community to set aside this property for a community park - as was the original intent of the gift.
This is about your personal integrity to follow the intent and purpose of the gift rather than sell your
integrity to the highest bidder. While the money that may be brought in to the city coffers by the sale of this
property, it is not necessary to be greedy but to evaluate the importance of the quality of life for those living in
the downtown section of Huntington Beach as well as our entire city. Just because Council Member Posey says
"There is a beach nearby" does not mean the former Senior Center should be sold for development! The
questions must be asked: "What do each of you personally have to gain by failing the residents on this issue?
Money? Power? Influence?" "Why is it that. once elected, politicians decide community issues to their
personal benefit rather that on the needs and promises to constituents?"
I urge all Council Members to vote NO on Agenda Item 26, "Rodgers' Park" and stop this bid to sell off
our land intended for a park!!
Sincerely,
Elizabeth Williams (,,,0 M.1 UNiCAT1004
Huntington Beach Resident
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From: Nat[natrwong@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 8:26 PM
To: CITY COUNCIL; Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Oppose item 26 regarding Rodgers Park
AGENDA COMMENT
Hello city council
Once again, I oppose item 26.
We have already had a city wide vote in 2006.
Thanks,
Nathalie Wong
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COMMUNICATION
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From: Carol Woodworth [koodworth@socal.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 11:19 AM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: OPPOSE Agenda item 26 S1'r �z,: „2
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AGENDA COMMENT
Dear Mayor Katapodis and Council members, I /
A ianda Item No. --
I am writing to OPPOSE agenda item 26. -°
Six months after writing and speaking against the city engaging in an exclusive arrangement with developers to sell and
develop the Rodgers Center property, here we are again! As I said on Dec 21 (4 days before Christmas), I hope we don't
have to discuss selling this property again. But apparently we are!
In 2006, the following ballot argument was used to encourage voters to vote in favor of the new senior center; "An added
benefit is returning the existing senior center to all downtown residents use." During that election, the group "Support Our
Seniors" lobbied for the new senior center in Central Park. Their handouts stated; "the current downtown center will be
returned to general park use."Voters passed Ballot measure T. The paint on the new senior center is barely dry and you
want to renege on one of primary reasons voters approved building it?
I find the proposed language for the non-binding advisory ballot item confusing and misleading. Are you intentionally trying
to confuse voters? How can you ask two distinctly different questions and expect a yes or no answer. You can't say to
voters a YES vote is Yes to the first question and a NO vote is YES to the second question - unless you are intentionally
trying to confuse voters. That's like asking; do you want pizza or hamburgers- yes or no? The wording also misleads the
voter by implying selling the property is the "best use" of the site.
In addition, the ballot item is asking voters how about we sell the neighbor's park so we can renovate your park?Why are
you asking the community to decide if one area deserves a park more than another area?Why are you proposing selling
open space to maintain open space? That's like selling your couch to pay your mortgage. Selling property provides one-
time money. You don't use one-time money to pay for ongoing expenses!
I get that we have a budget issue. So, where are the creative and alternative ideas for revenue sources to pay for park
maintenance? Have we prioritized the park projects?What about corporate partnerships?What about working with other
non-profits like Boy Scouts for minor maintenance?What about using some TOT money for parks? How about creating a
park maintenance fund within the budget with each department contributing a set amount of money? Maybe have an
event like DuckAThon that supports parks? Rather than focus on the total cost of all park repairs and maintenance, focus
on smaller projects one park at a time while developing other funding sources. Do we believe our city slogan "Parks Make
Life Better" or not?
Last night (7/13), 1 attended the Community Services Commission meeting. Commissioner Moffatt brought this same
agenda item up as a proposed recommendation to city council. It was noted and discussed that Agenda item 26 was
already on the City Council agenda even though the Community Services Commission had not yet made their
recommendation. Which begs the question; why not wait until a recommendation is made by your appointed Community
Services Commission before bringing the item to City Council? The good news is that the Commission voted NO (8-2) on
the proposal. The eight dissenting members echoed many of the comments made by the dozen or so speakers that were
present at the meeting. We shouldn't be selling open space to pay for open space!
Please join with me and the Community Services Commission and reject Agenda Item 26.
Thank you,
Carol Woodworth
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From: Save Rodgers' Park [saverodgerspark@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:05 PM
To: CITY COUNCIL; Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Agenda item 26
AGENDA COMMENT
Mayor and Councilmembers,
The Keep the Promise, Save Rodgers Park group strongly opposes Agenda Item 26 and any
"advisory vote" in regards to the Rodgers' Park site. We, along with many downtown and
Huntington Beach residents, firmly believe that the voters and residents of the city were
promised a park multiple times. We also firmly believe in accountability for actions.
The residents in the downtown area want, need, and deserve the park that was promised to
them. We request that you keep that promise.
Thank.you,
Keep the Promise, Save Rodgers' Park Team
COMMUNICATION
Meeting Cate
Agenda Item
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From: Surf City Pipeline [noreply@user.govoutreach.com]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 4:27 PM
To: CITY COUNCIL; Agenda Alerts
Subject: Surf City Pipeline: Comment on an Agenda Item (notification)
Request# 26860 from the Government Outreach System has been assigned to Agenda Alerts.
Request type: Comment
Request area: City Council - Agenda & Public Hearing Comments
Citizen name:julie bixby
Description: I heard that item#26 on the 7/18 agenda has been pulled, but I've decided to weigh in
anyway due to the timely arrival of the Parks & Recreation Master Plan Final Draft
Report. I will let that document do the talking:
Page 46, regarding results of community interviews: "Short on parkland."
Page 54: "Nearly 60% of those polled (57%) identified 'Population Growth,' 'Growth
Management,' ...'Housing Growth,'... [as] issues of greatest concern.
Page 81: "Nationally, there is an emerging recognition that parks and recreation services
play a significant role in improving the quality of life of the City, and that parks and
open space are catalysts for both community building and economic development."
Page 94: "Fiscal Related Implications....the City should consider utilization of the
existing site on Orange Street for...recreational programs..."
I think you get the idea. The CIty really doesn't have a need for more residents, but it
does have a need for more open space and recreational opportunities. Remember, "Parks
Make Life Better" is not just a marketing slogan -- it's actually backed up by scientific
research. Isn't Quality of Life one of the City's goals?
Expected Close Date: July 19, 2016
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Esparza, Patty
From: Dombo, Johanna
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 2:24 PM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: FK City Council Meeting 16-7-18, Agenda Item 26.
AGENDA COMMENT
-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Mastropaolo [mailto:jamastropaolo(@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 2:05 PM
To: CITY COUNCIL
Cc: Sullivan, Dave; Hardy, Jill; Katapodis, Jim; billy4hb(@gmail.com;
barbara(@barbarasellsthebeach.com; Erikpeterson4hbccogmail.com; mikeposey(@earthlink.net
Subject: City Council Meeting 16-7-18, Agenda Item 26.
Members of the City Counsel, my name is Joseph Mastropaolo. I have been a resident of HB for
many years. My precinct is 32285.
I urge the City Council to vote NO on Agenda Item 26, selling the Rogers Seniors' Center
property.
The property was deeded to HB with the understanding that the property would remain an active
park to relieve the stress from overcrowding.
HB is already overbuilt with high density housing. There IS a need to tear down high density
housing, not to misappropriate city parks to build more high density housing to
psychologically break down the citizenry for future slums.
We need parks, not overcrowded slums.
We need the CC to vote NO on Agenda Item 26. A park is not passive. It is active and
essential for the mental health of the citizenry to prevent the psychological breakdowns and
the stress fatalities from overcrowding.
We need a termination of all agreements with Christopher Homes or any other builder. As
originally agreed, the Rogers Seniors' Center Park property needs to stay a park.
We don't need more housing in HB. HB is already overbuilt. We need parks and elbow room, not
pre-slum housing designed for a few rats and not enough room for even one person. We don't
need more psychological breakdowns and more stress fatalities from the thousands of crowded
pre-slum housing units already overbuilt all over HB.
Relieve the maddening traffic. Protect the Rogers Seniors' Center Park.
Vote NO on Agenda Item 26, selling the Rogers Seniors' Center property.
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Esparza, Patty
From: funlife007@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 3:13 PM
To: CITY COUNCIL; Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Agenda#26 Tonight's Meeting on Rodgers' Park
AGENDA COMMENT
Hello - I am very concerned about someone's idea of putting this back on the ballot. This was voted on years
ago. A deal is a deal. Please be ethical in your decision making.
Thank you!
Kristen Hatfield
313 20th Street, Huntington Beach
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From: Gary Tarkington [garytarkington@msn.comj
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 11:18 AM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Rogers Senior Center
Importance: High
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AGENDA COMMENT
Date:Thu, 14 J u 12016 09:34:26 -0700 �
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Dear Mayor Katapodis and Council members,
I am writing to OPPOSE agenda item 26 for the following reasons:
1.13allot Measure T which passed in 2006 used the following ballot argument."An added benefit is returning
the existing senior center to all downtown residents use."Was this merely a LIE to sell the community on
passage of new center???It is no wonder there is such a tremendous lack of trust in our elected officials.There
was a promise made to the community and anything short of KEEPING THIS PROMISE is 100% UNACCEPTABLE!
2.This ballot measure is irresponsible and extraordinarily divisive.Asking the community at large to decide if
one area of the city should be entitled to a park in order to maintain funding for the rest of the city is flat-out
wrong and divisive.This will open the door where the community as a whole can vote away MY
NEIGHBORHOOD park, or ANY NEIGHBORHOOD park.Our elected officials serve the entire city and it is
incumbent upon all of you to provide for all the city and not divide us.
3.While I am very clear that HB struggles with our unfunded liabilities, SELLING PARK SPACE IS NOTTHE
SOLUTION!We must dig-in and correct the root of our funding issues including serious pension reform, and
not expect to sell away open space, piece by piece.This ballot measure is a very irresponsible approach to
addressing revenue for park maintenance or any other funding.
4.Our city has seen more than 3,000 High Density apartment units put upon us in just a few short years.The
downtown area has changed dramatically with so many lots changing from one home to two homes. In
addition, we just consumed approx. 5 acres in Central Park to develop the Senior Center.This proposed ballot
measure is clearly taking HB in the WRONG direction!
I attended the Community Services Commission meeting on Wed., 7/13, where Commissioner Moffatt
brought this same agenda item for consideration.I was very pleased that an overwhelming majority of the
Commission (8-2) voted NO on this proposal. The eight dissenting members echoed my thoughts above and
more. They spoke concisely that this is NOT the right direction for HB. In addition, many from the community
spoke against this proposal.
I urge you to join with me and the Community Services Board and reject Agenda Item 26.
Thank you,
Ann Tarkington, Huntington Beach CA 92646
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Ann Tarkington
Huntington Beach, CA. 92646
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Esparza, Patty
From: Paula Hessley [paulamichael@earthlink.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 1:59 PIVI
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy-, CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Agenda Item 26
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Dear Mayor Katapodis and Council members,
We are writing to OPPOSE agenda item 26 for the following reasons:
1. Ballot Measure T which passed in 2006 used the following ballot argument. "An added benefit
is returning the existing senior center to all downtown residents use." Was this merely a LIE to
sell the community on passage of new center??? It is no wonder there is such a tremendous lack of
trust in our elected officials. There was a promise made to the community and anything short of
KEEPING THIS PROMISE is 100% UNACCEPTABLE!
2. This ballot measure is irresponsible and extraordinarily divisive. Asking the community at large
to decide if one area of the city should be entitled to a park in order to maintain funding for the rest
of the city is flat-out wrong and divisive. This will open the door where the community as a whole
can vote away OUR NEIGHBORHOOD park, or ANY NEIGHBORHOOD park. Our elected
officials serve the entire city and it is incumbent upon all of you to provide for all the city and not
divide us.
3. While we are very clear that HB struggles with our unfunded liabilities, SELLING PARK
SPACE IS NOT THE SOLUTION! We must dig-in and correct the root of our funding issues
including serious pension reform, and not expect to sell away open space, piece by piece. This
ballot measure is a very irresponsible approach to addressing revenue for park maintenance or any
other funding.
4. Our city has seen more than 3,000 High Density apartment units put upon us in just a few short
years. The downtown area has changed dramatically with so many lots changing from one home to
two homes. In addition, we just consumed approx. 5 acres in Central Park to develop the Senior
Center.
This new proposed ballot measure is clearly taking HB in the WRONG direction!
We urge you to join with us and the Community Services Board and reject Agenda Item 26.
Thank you,
Michael and Paula Hessley
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From: Dombo, Johanna
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 8:40 AM
To: Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; CITY COUNCIL
Subject: FW: Rogers Seniors' Center
AGENDA COMMENT
From: DGreen1128@aol.com [mailto:DGreen1128@aol.comj
Sent: Sunday,July 17, 2016 12:47 PM
To: CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Rogers Seniors Center <' 'h. EItllia7!"4 . ",
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"PARKS MAKE LIFE BETTER", this is a sign displayed in the parking lot of the Senior Center. This
proposal seems to counter that idea. Making this entire area into a park is more consistent
with the view that parks are an important part of our environment. It would also compensate
for the loss of "park space" in Central Park now occupied by the new Senior Center.
The development of this property with 22 single family units would increase the density in our
downtown area, and provide less incentive for the development of all of the existing empty
and under-utilized lots that already exist in the "numbered" street area. These empty lots are
unattractive and typically are overgrown with weeds. They have no or poor sidewalks in front
of them. Why not encourage the developer to build on these existing lots which would greatly
improve our downtown area.
There has been so much high density development in Huntington Beach recently that we
need to take a break and understand the long term impact before jumping into a
"neighborhood project".
Finally, I would hope Huntington Beach is not so desperate for money that we are going to
start a precedent of converting public property to private property. Where does it end?
LAKE PARK, THE DOWNTOWN LIBRARY, CENTRAL PARK, these are just a few examples of
property that could be sold and converted to high impact housing. Huntington Beach is a
great city with much potential; as we add more density for growth, shouldn't we add more
parkland.
Sincerely,
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Richard Green
504 191" St., Huntington Beach, Ca.
Dgreen1128@aol.com
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Es arza, Patty
From: Amazonotter[amazonotter@yahoo com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 10 53 AM
To- CITY COUNCIL, Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy, CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Rodgers' Park
AGENDA COMMENT
Hi,
My name is Marvin Park and I live at 414 16th in HB As I understand it, that land
was a gift from Chevron and is deeded as a gift. The land was supposed to be a
park.
I will start with what I do NOT want
1 1 do NOT want the land to be turned into an apartment complex We already
have a street parking issue and there has been an ever-growing amount of trash
and litter scattered about
I do want.
1 A neighborhood park but I'm concerned with the liquor store being so close, that
the park would become a place for the homeless and vagrants
I wouldn't mind
1 Single Family dwellings
Sincerely,
Marvin Park
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Esparza, Patty
From, Irene Ilzarraga [irenita624@yahoo com]
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 11 09 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL, Agenda Comment
Cc. Flkes, Cathy, CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Rodgers Park- Make Downtown Huntington Beach Great Again'
AGENDA COMMENT
Council Chambers,
As a resident and property owner of Downtown Huntington Beach,Rodgers'Park is a necessary project to enrich the quality of life of homeowners/residents,create a
wonderful place to take our children and teens,and uplift the property value for the entire city
Many homes and apartments have very little outside lawn space on the property in which we live As our family grows,I am looking for a safe,welcoming place where my
children can play,run,grow,and live a healthy lifestyle by burning energy/calones at a nearby park
Yes,the beach is near,but the beach does not have shady trees to keep cool under,nor grass to run and kick the ball around
Also,most homes have a one-car-driveway space,causing additional car(s)searching for parking on the street This is stressful when street parking is already limited,and I
now have to park two blocks away and carry my sleeping child(purse,diaper bag and groceries)all the way home On top of that,my neighbor is now angry that I parked in
front of their house
Any other use of this 2 acre land will create heavier car traffic,more congested parking on public streets,and stress for those who live here
Make Downtown HB Great Again'
Build Rogers'Park'Enrich our children's lives'
Be Honest and Keep Rogers'Park for the Residents of Downtown Huntington Beach'
Thank you for your time,
Irene Boggs
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Esparza, Patty
From. Caroline Karr[ckarr08@gmail com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 8 50 PM
To: city counsel@surfcity-hb org, Agenda Comment
Cc- Fikes, Cathy, CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Agenda item 26- Rodgers park
AGENDA COMMENT
Hello,
I am writing to express my concern about the proposed site for what we thought would be Rodgers Park being
used for something other then a park My husband and I live on 17th Street, very close to where we were told
the park would be built. We were looking forward to having a nice, safe place to bring our dog and future kids
We are deeply concerned about the proposition to use the land for anything other then a park With 17th being
such a busy street, we need a place safe from cars that our family can enjoy Please give us the park as
promised
Thank you for your time,
Caroline Karr
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From: Don Karr[dkarr@Millerbarondess com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 5 48 PM
To: city counsel@surfcity-hb org, Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy, CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Agenda Item 26 - Rogers Park
AGENDA COMMENT
To Whom it May Concern,
am the owner of 525 17th St, and 527 17th St in downtown Huntington Beach My primary residence is 525 17th St,
which is right across the street from the proposed site for Rogers Park My wife and I recently became dog owners and
are looking to start a family We desperately would love to have a park close by for our children and puppy to have a
safe place to play 17th Street is a high traffic area, and there is nowhere for little ones to safely play I have nightmares
about children running across the busy street when there could be a beautiful safe park to play in close by
Please do what is right for the residents of downtown HB and build the park as promised
Thanking you in advance,
Donald R. Karr, CPA
MILLER I BARONDESSL,
1999 Avenue of the Stars, Suite 1000
Los Angeles, CA 90067
Direct 310-552-7566
Main 310-552-4400
Fax 310-552-8400
dkarr Q m i I lerbarondess com
www millerbarondess com
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Esparza, Patty
From- Dombo, Johanna
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 11 05 AM
To Agenda Comment
Cc: Fikes, Cathy, CITY COUNCIL
Subject: FW Agenda Item 26, "Rodgers' Park"
AGENDA COMMENT
From: Dee Dee Khakbaz [mailto mkhakbaz@verizon net]
Sent:Tuesday,July 19, 2016 10 52 AM
To: CITY COUNCIL
Subject: Re Agenda Item 26, "Rodgers' Park"
Dear City Council,
As residents of Huntington Beach for 15 years we stand firm against any ballot measure to decide what has already been
decided, not to permit developers to usurp their authority over Rodgers Park, as this will interrupt the balance of peace
and beauty of the lovely park Our family resides on Florida Street between Yorktown and Utica We stand firm
against any ballots that disrupt our beloved peaceful parks
Sincerely yours,
Mr Moe and Dee Dee Khakbaz and family
mkhakbaz(o)-verizon net
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