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Save Our Kids .... stated objectives are.... 5
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OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK
CONNIE BROCKWAY_
Save Our Kids .... wants the City to establish its youth as the City's number
one priority.
Save Our Kids .... Wants the City Council to pass a resolution that before the
City can allow the sale or rezoning of a Public park or School land currently being
used for a Youth Sport activity, the City must find or develop a new facility or
enhance a current facility to accommodated the displace activity. Such replacement
facility must be a long term solution.
Save Our Kids... wants the City to establish a defined plan for satisfying the
land, water and facilities needs for the Youth of the City of Huntington Beach for the
next 25 years.
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Mayor, Council members, & Staff-
I would like to thank the Council for this opportunity to address you on Youth
Sports.
• At a previous meeting I was asked who do you represent - Tonight let me
address that question by introducing the Board for "Save Our Kids" - yes we have
named our group "Save Our Kids", - Dave remember that "Imitation is the highest
form of flattery." - We could have named the groups "Save some land for Our Kids"
but felt that was not an appropriate representation of our objectives.
• Board members:
Representing: Baseball/ Softball
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Vicki Czuleger - the Gent President of Robinwood L. L.
Mike Simon - with Robinwood L. L. and a Landscape Architect
\ Philip Baumfeld - Past President of O. V. Little League
p John Ringer - H.B. Girls Softball is designating a representative.
Representing Soccer
Tim Phelps - Commissioner of Region 56
Paul McLoed - Commissioner of Region 143
Bruce Bricks - President - So. Coast Soccer Club, /kySo ,
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Others:
Dr. Ann Chlebicki - Representing Aquatics
Richard Henderson - Representing Pre-school sport
Myself-
Other groups have actively attended our meeting and will work on sub-
committees will come from Roller Hockey, Basketball, & Football. The above groups
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represent an enrollment of over 11,000 kids.
Save Our Kids - was formed to unite the youth groups and to make sense out of
the needs of our, sport groups and the youth population as a whole.
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The first step undertaken was to investigate the research on youth sports and
recreation on the general population. A study named "The Benefits of Parks and
Recreation" produced by the Ontario Ministry of Tourism and Recreation in 1992
found......
Consider too, an excerpt from a speech by Charles R. Jordan, with the Bureau of Parks
and Recreation for the City of Portland Oregon in 1993.......
Second I� urchased from the City Planning department The "City of
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Huntington Beach - Community Profile - 1993-1994" There I found .......
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Third, understanding from Councilperson Winchell at a previous Council
meeting that the City's plan had always been to place the burden of recreation
facilities on School District th6Fdjy sag the City money during its rapid population
expansion. IVt a list of all the parks within the City from Community Services,
correlated that list with the list of park utilization from the City also. Combining the
needs of soccer , baseball, softball and football on the assigned park land. In so doing
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I found)411�"forgetting practice fields" )the City's available field space is roughly 95%
utilized, year round.... I received no data on Basketball, or roller Hockey from the
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Fourth, I contacted the youth groups and formed this coalition, to get a better
understanding of the growth of the groups and whether it had a 1:1 correlation to
population growth. With preliminary data I found that given the increase of Families
with both parents working rising nationally from 36.2% in 1970 to 57.9% in 1990, and
the percentage of children under 18 living with mother only, raising from 10% in 1970
to 22% in 1990, and finally the pervasive belief that you can no longer leave a child to
find his/her own amusement, given the nature of our current society, the growth
percentage of youth sports was far exceeding the population growth trends. Soccer
groups report expansion from 15% to 80%, baseball believes that within the next 4
years the City will need an additional Little League to conform to the Little League
rules. Swimming is confined currently by pool space and has reached its maximum
and has to turn people away.
Basketball courts are used constantly, Roller hockey is perhaps the fastest
growing with the least facilities. Only tennis and racquetball and handball seem to
have no growth or if anything negative growth.
With this a background let us review the Park View site. What is the projected
cost of the Park View site? .......
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The Park View Site will include 4 baseball fields, 2 soccer fields, 1 football
field, 1 gym, 1 aquatic complex.
Net gain ... 1 gym and 1 aquatic complex. Net Loss.... projected 71.4 acres of
open land used extensively for Youth Sports with no replacement facilities planned,
and an expanding youth base.
What is Park View currently - Ocean View Pony/Colt - H.B. Jr. All Amer.
Football, and AYSO Region 55 = where do they go? c ��
What is our current position!
Land is a precious commodity at any time, but especially when a City is in the
final stages of building out. We have a school system that is lacking in funds and
needs to develop methods to cover their budget shortfalls. Selling real estate is a short
term solution but may be one forced on the Districts. The Districts don't want to
abandon the children but rightful ask, is the satisfaction of the land needs for the
youth really their problem or is it truly the responsibility of the City to provide
for its citizens, young and old!
We view the solutions to the problem to be a team oriented solution. For
example: Roller Hockey needs to find sites that the youth can participate in their sport
under supervision, Side by Side, is busy 23 hours a day, and the population is growing
rapidly. Big 5 reports that Roller Hockey equipment is the fastest and largest selling
sporting equipment in the store. With that number of purchases we have to give the
youth a place to practice and use it. Tennis court are under utilized and can be
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adapted to roller hockey. We have contacted the City and offered to share some of the
plans our Committee members have developed for other Cities to do the same. It is a
win - win, better utilization of space and the kids are no longer breaking the law using
the facility.
Central Park and other City owned land is also a key ingredient in the long term
solution, but like roller hockey and tennis courts can be used intelligently to satisfy the
needs of all the citizens. However, it would seem with the current data, no utilizing
Central Park for any active youth sporting activities by this Council would be a
dereliction of duty to the citizens of Huntington Beach, all the citizens.
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THE BENEFITS OF PARKS AND RECREATION I
• Physical recreation and fitness contributes to a full and meaningful life.
(The physically fit person is able to enjoy life more fully, is less prone to injury
and is more productive, both at work and in the community.)
• Personal benefits: meaningful leisure activity is and essential source of self-esteem
and positive self-image.
(The skills wee develop through discretionary activity, leisure and personal
avocations build confidence, self-esteem, mental health and feeling of success.)
• Children's play is essential to the human development process.
( A child learns social skills through early play experience. The best
opportunities are hose that are planned and supervised. A Child develops
physical skills through play and the challenges offered through physical
recreation. )
• Social benefits: Community recreation reduces alienation, loneliness and anti-social
behaviors.
(Recreation serves to bridge the gap between "power" [adult] institutions and
delinquency prone youth, thereby reducing community cost for police and other
crisis - intervention services.)
•Economic Benefits: meaningful leisure services reduce the high cost of vandalism
and criminal activity.
(The provision of meaningful and involving activities for young people really
does deter costly, negative social behaviors [e.g., vandalism and petty crime]. It
cost more than one hundred times per youth to incarcerate a child than it does to
provide recreational programs for them.)
PARKS AND RECREATION: MORE THAN FUN AND GAMES2
"It is not my intent to tell you that parks and recreation is the panacea,because
it isn't! But it is my intent to cause you to pause and reflect on all I've said, using your
plain, old, common sense, and then ask yourself: Is it possible? Is it possible that daily
engagement in positive and constructive activities by thousands of young people can be
a deterrent or replacement to not so positive or not so constructive activities?"
"Is it possible that winning does contribute to building self-esteem? And that
creating games, no matter how silly, ensures that every kid has a chance to taste victory,
a chance to run home and tell Mom that today, she or he was number one! The
majority of kids may not hit a home run, dunk a basketball or run for a touchdown,but
with a little imagination on our parts, victory may be experienced by every child."
"Is it possible that lasting friendships have gotten their start on the playing fields
and gym floors of our parks and recreation departments, where people of different
background, different colors, and different races have come together as a team and only
tasted victory after they set aside those differences? Common sense has to make us
pause and wonder. If we can do it on playing fields and gym floors, then maybe,just
maybe, we can do it on our jobs, in our churches, and in our communities."
1 The Benefits of Parks and Recreation,produced jointly by the Parks and Recreation Federation of Ontario and
the Ontario Ministry of Tourism and Recreation, 1992.
2 Parks and Recreation:More than Fun and Games,Charles R.Jordan, Bureau of Parks and Recreation,City of
Portland,Portland Oregon,October, 1993.
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May 23, 1994
Highlights of Presentation by Chuck Beauregard
YOUTH SPORT CENTER SERVICES - - - -MORE THAN JUST THE YOUTH:
According to 93-94 Huntington Beach Community Profile document produced by the City.
1. 33% of HB population under 25 years of age, a population of 60,000+.
2. 21% of HB population under 19 years of age, a population of 40,000+.
3. 8% of HB population over 64 years of age, a population of 15,000.
4. 46,076 Households in HB are family households.
5. Population growth in the City over the last 10 years has centered around Central
Park.
• Increase ranging from 64.7% to 29.2% per census tract - east of the park
• Median age in these areas is in the 24 - 28 range verses City average of 31.68
6. City's concentration of multiple housing is in this area too.
7. 1,746+ acres or approximately 10% of City land is designed a Open Space
• City classifies 708 acres of the above total for Parks and Recreation - 40%
•406 of those acres are Central Park and Linear Regional Park
- constitutes 60% of the available park land
• Community Demographics
1960 1970 1990
11,492 115,960 192.000
•Family structure both parents work
1970 1990
36.2% 57.9%
• Percentage of children under 18 living with mother only:
1970 1990
10% 22%
• 235 acres of Neighboorhood parks
• 67 acres for community parks, with very few fields for kids.
Excluding facilities on School District Property the City offers its youthful citizens:
One 60 year old indoor pool,
One 60 year old gym,
3 youth baseball fields,
3 basketball court complexes, &
One Skateboard park.
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Population growth
26,058 building units (residential)
* 2.78 members per household average
= 72,441 additional citizen at build out.
72,441 citizens
* 33.33% under 25 years of age
= 24,147 additional youth
Raising the youth population in the City by 40% to - 85,000
The Orange County RegisterNEWSThursday, April 14, .1994
Huntin ..n., %® Simers s, _nmplex
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p Park View is one of nine vacant
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t0 make a pitch or schools owned by the Ocean View
�10tlt�l GeIIt@I° 8t a Var pre-
WON a ��crals hope�band a communriy�sport�antl district. City officials will pre-
activiti�; diled�4Farlc�tiew 5cltotCtS vacant 1 t 5Cr@ Sty R4 7 p rrt sent its proposal for the sports
CaIIt sehd®1 Opus ' `fueila,`titay` t1tecmmrr�endo tt►e tkean 1liew 5thol pxtsti�board sif complex and potential uses for
14rust tl*e folf�ng fit eight uttter vCaEtt ctols` ' ¢ �` f eight other district-owned sites
Byb\IAMCIf LdJNI! � y„ .vr FX at Tuesday's board of trustees
:,The Orange County Register:'., Ak --Glen View lehool Haven View School `; meeting.
HUNTINGTON BEACH �k� ►Build an 1 r 8 acre residential ' ►Build a 12.5 acre residential The city has been studying the
Watching a "skins: and, shirts developmentfi Add twro ages'to a development.Add tvvo acres to a youth-facility • 'idea since 1984,
pickup basketball,game;at sun nearby park nearby park Hagan said.
'set; with the"waves crashing ,' Councilman Don McAllister
along the.-.Surf..City shoreline m �r'� ln ' � � whoox first suggested it. When Silva, a
the ba kgrpipia it a Longtime ',��� a fi id�aat l 3fi 1 ►Rulld d 13 a co civics teacher at Los Amigos
dream for`Cqu�eilaraan Jiro Sil 3 � y� ��ye> rk High School, was elected to the
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vat - � fl aiaa; , � �3x council in 1988,he climbed on the
"I'd,like ,to :see courts:on the '..w bandwagon, asking the city to
beach"',Silva,.said.;Other beach .Rancho View School Lark View School provide a sports facility for Hun-
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communites otter,seaside courts
No,Build a 13.7-acre auto center for ®Current location of the Ocean tington Beach youths. .
for youths:to play. Huntington. '.three or four car dealerships:+Use- ,.View School District offices.If de "I've tried to lobby the council
Beach should..provide.some, as., ;- g' y' p Y for support;" Silva said. "I
�� remainin fo r acres:for a velo ed,add two acress to a nearby
'Well as playgrounds:at several s.maintenance facility. park and move sports programs. couldn't get the necessary
other places he said. `
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ds need to keep busy," Sil-
Jew � Parent Chuck Beauregard said
va.said. "Huntington Beach is a ,,aeserwethe4Ct11.aCreslt�ftr
1{ �thal -acrs�tafor a the city-is in desperate need of
fun place,but there's not•a lot of reefd pziirk use school and park vse If cl evel- facilities for teen-agers to play
• things for;kids to,do." _� � � �
g upelr u$eve cites fot pack opedf d tfirree acres to a neartb}rr at.
City staff members are consid-
spurtsp>Esranit. pk aP�d program .
ering a closed Ocean View School E �� � t y 'xk z a "We have 50,000 kids in Hun-
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'. District campus for a . youth- .� '`�� �►���$��%� � , `� � �y �x��� �-, � ; tington Beach and we have zero
sports complex. .., 3 ...,,x;; ..., 4 x g
The city hopes to acquire the M me orange county Registe► . facilities," Beaure and said.
"That's a pretty sad commen-
vacant Park View School for an a 50-meter swimming pool; foot- "It's an investment in the fu- tary for a city this size."
$8 million center, Community . ball; soccer- and,.baseball field_s;- ' ture," said Silva, who has lob- A two-year-old plan to build the
Services Director +'Ron Hagan ' +a gymnasium; :tennis�.:courts; bied for more youth activities in . complex in a portion of Hunting-
said. and hocked and.:in-line.skating the city. °.`If they are out there ton Beach Central Park fell
The youth center would include rinks:. playing,then tlieyIt; not�going to through earlier this year.
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16 Crest View School 6 y y y y
18052 Lisa
Fountain Valley Youth Baseball 2/15 - 8/20 4pm- Dusk M-F 3
Elam-5pm Sat
comments Build 13.8 acre commercial site. No park has been proposed for the site.
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26 Glen View School- Park 4 3.0 y y y y y y
6621 Glen
Robinwood Little League 2/15 - 7/1 4pm- Dusk M-F 3
AYSO#55 ++ 8/16 - 2/14 4pm- Dusk M-F 2
9am-5pm Sat
1/1 - 2/14 12-5pm Sun
No. H. B. Soccer Club 8/28 - 9/6 9am-6pm S-S-M 2
comments Build an 11.8 Acre residential development. Add 2 acres to a nearby park
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16081 Waikiki
Robinwood Little League 2/15 - 7/1 4pm- Dusk M-F 3
AYSO #143 + 8/9 - 2/14 4pm - 10pm M-F 3
8am-Dusk Sat
comments Build a 7.1 acre residential development. Add 3 acres toa nearby park.
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17200 Pinehurst
Ocean View Little League 2/15 - 8/1 4pm- Dusk M-F 3
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AYSO#55 ++ 8/16 - 1/31 4pm- Dusk M-F 1
9am-5pm Sat 1
1/1 -2/14 12-5pm Sun 1
comments Current Ocean View Sch. District Offices. If developed add 3 acres to a nearby park- Move sports programs
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5702 Clark
Ocean View Pony/Colt 2/15 - 8/1 4pm-dusk M-F 5
AYSO #143 8/9 - 2/14 4pm- Dusk M-F 2
8am-5pm Sat
comments Reserve 13 acre site for Future school and park use. If Dev. use 5 acres for park and move sports programs.
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57 Park View School 4 2.0 y y" y y y y
19231 Harding
Ocean View Pony/Colt 2/15 - 8/1 4pm -dusk M-F 4
7am-Dusk Sat&Sun
H.B. Jr. All Amer. Football+ 8/9 - 11/19 4:30 - 7:30pm T-Th-F PA
AYSO#55+ 8/16 - 12/19 4 pm-9pm M&W 1
12/20 - 1/31 M-F 1
comments Adult Education - Proposed site for YSC&Ocean View Little League home fields
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59 Pleasant View School - Park 4 2.0 y y y y y
16692 Landau
Ocean View Little League 2/15 - 8/1 4pm- Dusk M-F 3
8 am-dusk Sat
comments Reserve 10.9 acre site for future school. If Developed add 3 acres to park and move sports programs.
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61 Robinwood Park 2 2.0 y y y y y
5172 McFadden
Robinwood Little League 2/15 - 7/1 3pm- Dusk M-F gras
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comments Robinwood School -build 7.1 acre residential at 3 acres to park.
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comments Build 13.7 acre auto center- Use remaining for Maintenance facility- Move sports programs
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4 Arevalos School Park 7 3.0 y y y y y
19692 Lexington
AYSO #117 8/9 - 2/14 4pm- Dusk M-F 1
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8 Burke School - Park 8 2.5 y y y y y y
9700 Levee
So. Huntington Little Miss 2/17 - 7/31 4pm- Dusk M-Th 3*
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AYSO#56++ 9/1 - 2/14 4pm- Dusk MWF 1
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19699 Education
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6261 Hooker
H. B.Girls Softball 1/15 - 8/20 4pm- Dusk M-F 4
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16th & Palm
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13 Clegg-Stacey School - Park 2 3.0 y y y y y
6311 Larchwood
AYSO #143 ++ 8/9 -2/14 4:30- Dusk M-F 4
8/9 -2/14 8am-Dusk Sat No
Res.
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14 College View School - Park 4 3.0 y y" y y y y
6582 Lennox
Ocean View Little League 2/15 - 8/1 4pm- Dusk M-F 1
8 am-dusk Sat
AYSO#55+ 8/16 - 1/31 4pm-9pm M-F 3
8/16 - 1/31 9am-5pm Sat
12pm-5pm 12pm-5pm Sun
No. H. B. Soccer Club 8/28 - 9/6 (am-6pm S-S-M 2
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15 Conrad Park 1 3.0 y y y y y y
Aquarius&Trinidad
Neighborhood park with low grade
practice field.
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16 Crest View School 6 y y y y
18052 Lisa
Fountain Valley Youth Baseball 2/15 - 8/20 4pm- Dusk M-F 3
8am-5pm Sat
comments Build 13.8 acre commercial site. No park has been proposed for the site.
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17 Drew Park 6 2.5 y y y y y y
Cape Cottage&Cape Newbury
Neighborhood park with low grade
practice field.
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18 Dwyer School 9 y* y y y y
1502 Palm
Huntington Valley Little League 2/15 - 7/31 4pm- Dusk M-F 4
8am-Dusk Sat
Pop Warner Football +
9/7 -11/30 4pm-8pm T-Th-F 1 PA
So. Coast Soccer Club
AYSO#56 8/2 - 2/14 4pm- Dusk M-W 1
� j6'� 9/1 -2/14 5pm-9pm M&W 1
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19 Eader School - Park 8 2.5 y y y y y y
9291 Banning
Sea View Little League 2/16 - 8/1 4pm- Dusk M-F 3*
8am-8pm Sat&Sun
AYSO#56 ++ 9/1 - 12/31 4pm-Dusk M-F 2
8am-4:30pm Sat
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20 Edison Community Park 8 40.0 y y y* y y* y* y* y y y y*
21377 Magnolia
#So. Huntington Little Miss 3/24 - 6/23 8am-5pm Sat 2
Pop Warner Football 8/9 - 12/10 4pm-8pm M-F PA
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21 Edison High School 8 y y y y* y y y*
21400 Magnolia
Sea View Little League 2/16 - 8/1 5pm- Dusk M-F 2
8am-8 pm Sat&Sun
Pop Warner Football 8/2 - 12/17 4pm-Dusk M-F 2
8/7 - 12/18 7am-Dusk Sat 2
So. Coast Soccer Club 8/2 -2/14 8am -4:30pm Sun 1
8/2 - 2/14 8am -4:30pm Sat 1
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12th & Main
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23 Franklin School - Park 2 2.0 y y y y
14422 Hammon
Neighborhood park with low grade
practice field.
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24 French Park 1 0.5 y
Venture ® Harbor Channel
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25 Gisler School- Park 8 11.0 y y" y y y
9700 Bluefield
Sea View Little League 2/16 - 8/1 4pm- Dusk M-F 5'
8am-8 pm Sat& Sun
AYSO#56++ 9/1 - 2/14 4pm - 10pm M-F
8am-Dusk Sat
comments A prime target to be sold
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26 Glen View School - Park 4 3.0 y y y y y y
6621 Glen
Robinwood Little League 2/15 -7/1 4pm- Dusk M-F 3
AYSO#55++ 8/16 - 2/14 4pm-Dusk M-F 2
9am 5pm Sat
1/1 - 2/14 12-5pm Sun
No. H. B. Soccer Club 8/28 - 9/6 9am-6pm S-S-M 2
comments Build an 11.8 Acre residential development. Add 2 acres to a nearby park
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27 Golden View School - Park 5 2.5 y y y y y y
17251 Golden View
Ocean View Little League 2/15 - 8/1 4pm-Dusk M-F 1
8 am-dusk Sat
AYSO#55 8/16 - 1/31 4pm- Dusk M-F 1
8/16 -1/31 9am-5pm Sat 1
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28 Golden West College 4 y* y* y y* y y
15744 Goldenwest
Adult fields.
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29 Greer Park-Lake 4 11.0 y y y y y y
McFadden and Goldenwest
Neighborhood park with softball field
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30 Harbour View School-Park 1 3.5 y y y y y y* y
4343 Pickwick
Robinwood Little League 2/15 -7/1 3pm-Dusk M-F 3
Sam-Dusk Sat& Sun
No. H. B. Soccer Club 8/28 - 9/6 9am-6pm S-S-M 2
AYSO #143 8/9 - 2/14 4pm-Dusk M-F 3
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31 Haven View School - Park 1 3.0 y y* y y y y
16081 Waikiki
Robinwood Little League 2/15 - 7/1 4pm-Dusk M-F 3
AYSO #143+ 8/9 - 2/14 4pm- 10pm M-F 3
Sam-Dusk Sat
comments Build a 7.1 acre residential development. Add 3 acres toa nearby park.
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32 Hawes School- Park 7 2.5 y y y y y
9682 Yellowstone
Sea View Little League 2/16 -8/1 4pm-Dusk M-F 2*
8am-8 pm Sat
AYSO #56++ 9/1 - 2/14 4pm- Dusk M-F 2
8am-4:30pm Sat
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33 Helme Park 6 2.0 y y y y y* y*
18001 Chapel
Neighborhood park with low grade
practice field.
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34 Hope View School- Park 3 3.0 y y' y y y
17622 Flintstone
Ocean View Little League 2/15 - 8/1 4pm- Dusk M-F 3
8 am-dusk Sat
No. H. B. Soccer Club 8/28 - 2/14 8am-6pm Sat 2
8/28 - 2/14 12pm-6pm Sun
8/28 - 2/14 5pm - 9:30pm M-F
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1905 Main
Adult fields.
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36 Huntington Central Park 5 300.0 y y y y y y y
Goldenwest&Talbert
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37 Irby Park 4 11.0 y y y
Patricia& Ruth
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38 Kettler School 8 y y' y y
8750 Dorsett
So. Huntington Little Miss 2/17 - 7/31 4pm- Dusk M-Th 5'
8am-3pm Sat
Pop Warner Football + 9/7 - 11/30 4-8pm T-Th-F 1
AYSO #56 ++ 9/1 - 2/14 4pm- 10pm M&W PA
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39 Lake Park 9 5.0 y y y y y
11th & Lake
No. H. B. Soccer Club 9/1 - 2/14 4pm- Dusk M-F 2
9/1 - 2/14 8am-6pm Sat
9/1 - 2/14 12pm-6pm Sun
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40 Lake View School - Park 5 3.0 y y y y y y
17451 Zwider
Ocean View Little League 2/15 - 8/1 4pm- Dusk M-F 3
8 am-dusk Sat
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41 Lamb School 7 y y* y y
10251 Yorktown
AYSO #117 8/9 - 2/14 4pm-8pm M-F 1
4pm - 5:OOpm Sat-Sun
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42 Lambert Park 6 3.5 y
N.W. Ellis& Newland
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43 Langenbeck Park 7 18.0 y y y y y y*
Bay&Sun Coral
Neighborhood park with low grade
practice field.
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44 Lark View School-Park 3 3.0 y y y y y y
17200 Pinehurst
Ocean View Little League 2/15 - 8/1 4pm-Dusk M-F 3
8 am-dusk Sat
AYSO#55 ++ 8/16 - 1/31 4pm- Dusk M-F 1
9am-5pm Sat 1
1/1 -2/14 12-5pm Sun 1
comments Current Ocean View Sch. District Offices. If developed add 3 acres to a nearby park- Move sports programs
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45 LeBard park 7 5.0 y y y y y y' y
20451 Craimer
Sea View Little League 2/16 - 8/1 4pm- Dusk M-F 5"
8am-8 pm Sat& Sun
AYSO#56++ `��C�'' 9/1 - 2/14 4pm- Dusk M-F 0 PA
N gam-4pm Sat
comments A prime target to be sold.
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46 Manning Park 9 2.5 y y y y
Delaware& Detroit
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47 Marina High School-Park 2 11.0 y y y y y y y y y y y
15871 Springdale
Robinwood Little League 2/15 - 8/1 4:30pm- Dusk M-F 6
8am-Dusk Sat
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48 Marine View School- Park 3 3.0 y y y y y
5682 Tiburg
H. B. Girls Softball 2/15 - 7/31 4pm- Dusk M-F 4
8am-Dusk Sat
12 noon - Dusk Sun
AYSO #143 8/9 - 2/14 4pm-Dusk M-F 2
Barn-Dusk Sat
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49 Meadow View School 3 y y y y y
5702 Clark
Ocean View Pony/Colt 2/15 - 8/1 4pm-dusk M-F 5
AYSO #143 8/9 - 2/14 4pm- Dusk M-F 2
8am-5pm Sat
comments Reserve 13 acre site for Future school and park use. If Dev. use 5 acres for park and move sports programs.
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50 Mesa View School 5 y y y y y y
17601 Avila
Ocean View Little League 2/15 - 8/1 4pm- Dusk M-F 6
8 am-dusk Sat
AYSO#55 8/16 - 1/31 4pm- Dusk M-F 1
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51 Moffett School - Park 7 2.5 y y y y y y y
8800 Burlcrest
Fountain Valley Youth Baseball 2/15 - 8/20 4pm-Dusk M-F 2'
8am-5pm Sat
AYSO#56 ++
9/1 - 2/14 4pm-Dusk M-F 1
- 8am -4:30pm Sat
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52 Murdy Community Park 4 15.0 y y y y y' y* y y y
700 Norma
Adult fields.
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7 3.0 y y y y y
8787 Dolphin
Huntington Valley Little League 2/15 - 7/31 4pm- Dusk M-F 3'
8am-Dusk Sat
AYSO #117
8/9 - 2/14 4pm- Dusk M-F 1
8am-5:00pm Sat
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54 Oak View School-Park 5 2.5 y y y y y y y
Nichols and Belsito
Ocean View Pony/Colt 2/15 - 8/1 4pm -dusk M-F 2
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17261 Oak
Neighborhood park with low grade
practice field.
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56 Oka School 7 y y y y
9600 Yorktown
Fountain Valley Youth Baseball 2/15 - 6/15 4pm-Dusk M-F 4
8am-5pm Sat
AYSO #117
8/9 - 2/14 4pm- Dusk M-F 1
8am-5:00pm Sat
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57 Park View School 4 2.0 y y" y y y y
19231 Harding
Ocean View Pony/Colt 2/15 - 8/1 4pm-dusk M-F 4
lam-Dusk Sat&Sun
H.B. Jr.All Amer. Football+ 8/9 - 11/19 4:30 - 7:30pm T-Th-F PA
AYSO #55+ 8/16 - 12/19 4 pm-9pm M&W 1
12/20 - 1/31 M-F 1
comments Adult Education - Proposed site for YSC &Ocean View Little League home fields
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19231 harding
Huntington Valley Little League 2/15 - 7/31 4pm- Dusk M-F 1'
8am-Dusk Sat
AYSO#117+
8/9 - 2/14 4pm-8pm M-F 1
8am-5:00pm Sat
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59 Pleasant View School-Park 4 2.0 y y y y y
16692 Landau
Ocean View Little League 2/15 - 8/1 4pm- Dusk M-F 3
8 am-dusk Sat
comments Reserve 10.9 acre site for future school. If Developed add 3 acres to park and move sports programs.
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Typhoon & Venture
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61 Robinwood Park 2 2.0 y y y y y
5172 McFadden
Robinwood Little League 2/15 - 7/1 3pm-Dusk M-F gras
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area
comments Robinwood School-build 7.1 acre residential at 3 acres to park.
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62 Rodgers Seniors' Center 9 2.0 y y
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YOUTH SPORTS FACILITIES PRESENTATION
CITY COUNCIL
MAY 23, 1994
I. Overview of Space Concerns Hagan
II. Proposed Alternatives Engle
III. Opportunities and Constraints Hagan
IV. Priorities Engle
V. Funding and Time Line Hagan
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The following is a review of three potential park or school sites for sports complexes
within the City of Huntington Beach. City staff feels that ultimately three sports
complexes will be needed to serve youth needs for the next 20 to 30 years.
1. 11UNTING14N CMIMAL VAVIK
OLD MUSHROOM FARM AREA
[EAST OF GOLDEN WEST STEET/NORTH OF ELLIS)
OPPORTUNITIES
• Area large enough for gymnasium, swimming pool, four baseball fields, three
soccer/football fields and gravel parking lot incorporated into methane area to the
north.
• The gymnasium and swimming pool facilities would generate minimal noise and
other impacts on surrounding area.
• The gymnasium and swimming pool facilities would act as a buffer between the
residential areas to the south and the proposed sports fields.
• Old Mushroom farm area does not have the methane or water quality problems that
exist in many of the other areas in Central Park, thereby, minimum mitigation costs.
• Location on Golden West Street provides excellent public access.
• Location can accommodate pool, gymnasium, baseball, football and soccer fields.
• City owns property.
CONSTRAINTS
• Mobile home relocation agreement is in effect until the year 2008.
• Measure C vote required.
SIXTEEN ACRES WEST Cr GOLDEN WEST STREET AT
TALI3EUT AVENUE TERMINUS
OPPORTUNITIES
• Area large enough to hold outdoor sports fields (including football, soccer and
baseball). Area not big enough to include swimming pool and gymnasium.
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• Area is relatively protected from prevailing winds because of trees to the west and
Golden West Street being at a higher elevation to the east.
• City owns property.
• No methane or water quality issues.
CONSTRAINTS
• Environmental impact on nature center immediately to the north.
• Possible negative impact with noise and lights on residences to the west and north.
• Portion of site could not be used to mitigate current parking and rest room
deficiencies existing on developed park land to the west.
• Measure C vote required.
SOUTHEAST Cr GOLDEN WEST AND CCTI-1AVU STREETS
OPPORTUNITIES
• City owned property
• Surrounded by park or industrial areas, therefore, sound and light would have
minimal negative impact.
CONSTRAINTS
• Methane and water quality issues necessitate approximately $9 million worth of
mitigation before the sports fields can be built.
• Site could accommodate gymnasium, pool and sports fields, but mitigation costs
significantly greater for building gymnasium and pool then just fields.
• Measure C vote not required for fields.
2. IFARIK VIEW SCHOOL/AAMU ' UAVE
OPPORTUNITIES
• Murdy Park is owned by the city (city does not own or lease Park View).
• Sufficient space to build gymnasium, swimming pool and outdoor sports fields.
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• Murdy Center staff can assist in supervising entire area, thereby, possibly reducing
costs.
• Joint venture with school district possible to provide activities during school thereby
allowing for long term agreement at little or no cost to the city, instead of purchase
of school district property.
• No methane or water quality issues
CONSTRAINTS
• Deal has not been negotiated with school district for joint venture. If city has to
purchase property, costs could be between $5 and $6 million.
• Low level lighting for sports fields may be an issue with residents.
• Measure C vote required for buildings; fields on school property do not require vote.
3. pET CK% SCHOOL
OPPORTUNITIES
• School district staff has indicated some preliminary interest in creating sports
complex at this site to relocate sports groups if school district sells other school sites
(school district citizens task force also recommended this use several years ago).
• Sufficient area to create four Little League fields and three soccer/football fields.
• Area relatively remote from residential area with just a few houses actually bordering
the turf areas.
CONSTRAINTS
• Although there are only a few neighbors bordering the park site, there may be
concern about practice level lighting.
• If school district will not enter into a joint venture, it may be necessary for the city to
purchase the property at an estimated cost of$5 or $6 million.
• Not enough area for gymnasium and swimming pool.
• Measure C vote not required for fields.
CTUEV CUPUPTUNITIES FCr 'It"CUTU SIDCrTS
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Rather than create sports complexes with all facilities at one site, it might be possible to
split the various facilities desired, thereby, limiting possible negative impact at any one
site. Alternatives include:
OCEAN VIEW HIGH SCHOOL--Joint project with OVHS and city to build
swimming pool.
DWYER SCHOOL--Enter into joint venture with Huntington Beach City School
District and Huntington Beach High School to build pool at corner of Palm
Avenue and 17th Street.
IRBY PARK (six acres)-Practice level sports fields (if peat conditions can be
mitigated).
BOLSA CHICA LINEAR PARK--There is enough area to create some
practice field areas, but recent decision on site has been to create a "natural"
park.
LANGENBECK PARK--This is the largest neighborhood park which utilizes
easement property belonging to the Edison Company. This would be an ideal
site for the sports fields; however, there may be liability concerns from the Edison
Company regarding putting structures, i.e., rest rooms, snack bars and parking
lots under electrical lines.
SCHOOL FIELDS--Youth groups currently use school fields throughout the city
for football, soccer, baseball and softball . School districts are experiencing
financial problems now which impact maintenance. It might be possible to
upgrade some of these school fields, but many fields would require significant
renovation and ongoing maintenance costs to be paid by the city (city also has
financial constraints).
CURRENT STATUS Cr CITE' EFFORTS
1. PARK VIEW SCHOOL--Potential joint project currently in school district's hands;
city interested in continuing ongoing negotiations with possible trade-off with other
school sites to insure use of Park View for youth sports fields.
2. YOUTH SPORTS GROUP ASSISTANCE PROGRAM--The city is exploring the
possibility of creating a special fund utilizing the Park Acquisition and Development
Fund to make "seed" money available to youth groups each year. This money would
be used by the organizations with their volunteer labor to buy fertilizer, irrigation
supplies, sports equipment, nets, soccer goals, backstops, etc. The city has provided
this type of assistance in the past. This would be a more formalized grant program
with City Council approval of funds at the beginning of the fiscal year. Groups
would apply for allocation and the Community Services Commission would evaluate
and make the final decision on the grant recipients based on the merits of the
requests. City Council would be the final appeal if there is disagreement.
3. HUNTINGTON CENTRAL PARK--City staff has identified $250,000 in the
94/95 budget for the Specific Plan and Environmental Assessment for Huntington
Central Park in order to move forward with consideration of a sports complex and
other recreation amenities on the undeveloped portions of Huntington Central Park.
4. PETERSON SCHOOL--The city has had only initial discussions with the school
district staff regarding a joint project at Peterson School. Potential interest
expressed by both parties. School district views this as an opportunity to relocate
sports groups if district sells closed school sites.
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YOUTH SPORTS GROUPS MEETING SUMMARY
WEDNESDAY, APRIL 27, 1994
Chuck Beauregard, a local citizen and youth sports advocate, invited all youth sports groups in
the community to attend a meeting on Wednesday, April 27, at 6:30 p.m. in the City Council
Chambers. The purpose of the meeting was to discuss the need for facilities for youth sports
groups.
Councilman Ralph Bauer was in attendance and Councilman Jim Silva attended a portion of the
proceedings. Both Councilmen spoke to the group expressing support for youth in the
community.
Jim Engle, Community Services Deputy Director, gave an overview on three potential sites that
staff has considered for a youth sports complex. The first site was Huntington Central Park.
Three locations in Central Park have been considered in the past: (1) sixteen acres west of
Golden West Street at Talbert Avenue; (2) the southwest corner of Talbert Avenue and Gothard
Street and, (3) the Mushroom Farm property north of the existing mobile homes, northwest of
Ellis Avenue and Golden West Street. Mr. Engle provided an update on the current Council
approved master plan for Huntington Central Park which identified the 16 acres west of Golden
West Street and Talbert Avenue as open/passive picnic area. The Council decision was to
continue the theme of the developed park area adjacent to this site as well as help mitigate some
of the rest room and parking problems on the developed park land. This site had, at one point in
time, been considered for outdoor sports fields, but the current master plan calls for it to be
passive/picnic area. The area southwest of Gothard Street and Talbert Avenue is identified for
sports uses; however, it has water quality and methane constraints with mitigation costs of almost
$9,000,000 (excluding the development costs for the site). Therefore, this area would probably
not be realistic for a sports complex or sports practice fields. The third area, known as the
Mushroom Farm, had originally been projected in the master plan process as the site of the
swimming pool, recreation center, gymnasium and a portion of the golf training area. This site
had been removed from the original master plan because of the City Attorney's opinion that the
Driftwood Mobile Home Relocation Agreement precluded master planning this site for
recreational uses other than mobile home relocation. It was suggested that this legal opinion be
reviewed to determine if there is potential for revisiting the issue of creating a gymnasium,
swimming pool and sports fields on this site. Councilman Ralph Bauer indicated that he would
explore this possibility.
Mr. Engle also discussed the staff proposal to expand Murdy Community Center into a sports
complex by adding the 11.5 acres at Park View School, which is a closed school site, then
building the gymnasium, swimming pool, football/soccer, baseball fields as well as other possible
recreational amenities such as tennis, roller hockey and/or arena hockey. The city does not own
the school property, nor have the money to develop the site at this time; but staff feels that this
alternative has the potential of becoming a joint venture with the school district and would help
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meet the needs for a youth sports complex in the community. The issue of the future of the
school lies in the hands of the school district.
Mr. Engle also talked about the possibility of creating a sports complex at Peterson School in the
south end of Huntington Beach. There has been some very preliminary discussion between the
school district staff and city staff regarding the possibility of this type of joint project. This idea
originated at a citizens task force meeting to address closed schools conducted by Huntington
Beach City School District several years ago
Mr. Engle indicated that all three sites (Huntington Central Park, Park View School/Murdy Park
and Peterson School) are only concepts at this time. There are land acquisition and development
cost issues that would have to be addressed before one, or all three, could be developed into a
youth sports complex. Mr. Engle indicated that Community Services staff feels that, potentially,
all three sites are going to be needed in the next 20 to 30 years as sports complexes to serve youth
sports groups in the community.
The audience, which was comprised of youth sports groups representatives, was invited to speak
to the issue of their needs for facilities within the community. Comments varied from, "give us
the land, we'll make the improvements" and "give us a little seed money and we can improve our
current sites" to the need for a full youth sports complex in the community. Overall, it was felt
that the city has an obligation to do more for youth groups. Mr. Engle responded that, in the
past, the city has assisted groups in the form of seed money for those groups to utilize their
volunteer manpower and improve school sites. Mr. Engle gave a brief overview of some of the
assistance provided to youth groups in the past (see attached list). He noted that other than the
sports complex, there have been no requests from local groups for assistance over the past few
years. Concern was expressed by the public that they will lose needed sports fields as the school
districts sell closed school sites. Comments were also made that the school districts and city
should coordinate their efforts regarding maintenance of fields. It would be more efficient and
probably save money if one crew did a park and school, rather than each agency mowing its own
grass.
Mr. Beauregard ended the meeting by asking those present to fill out interest forms that he had
provided for the meeting. He also stated a desire to have all the youth groups form an
organization to support the development of youth sports groups within the city. He felt that such
an advocacy group was necessary to demonstrate that youth sports facilities are needed within the
community. This type of group cannot only demonstrate a need, but also assist in supporting
efforts to provide assistance to fund such facilities. He also felt that this type of forum will
facilitate youth groups talking to each other and working together. Mr. Beauregard noted he will
be contacting each of the groups in the near future.
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NOTE: Chuck Beauregard reviewed the above summary prepared by city staff and concurred
that it provides an overview of the evening's proceedings. He also added the following
comments:
1. Although the group acknowledged help in the past, the youth groups, as a whole, have felt
that the city was not responsive to their needs in recent years and, in most cases, were of the
mind to take things into their own hands. To that, several groups have negotiated their own
agreements with school districts.
2. Concern was expressed that, although on the surface the Murdy Park/Park View plan looks to
have promise, in fact, it could mean the net loss of up to 100 acres of open land currently used
by sports groups. The net loss coming from the negotiated trades of open land at Glen View,
Robinwood, Rancho View, Meadow View, Haven View, Crest View, Lark View and Pleasant
View Schools for the Park View land.
3. The tenor of the group was one of openness and willingness to work together as a group.
The conversations were directed at solutions not at "finger pointing." The group expressed an
interest in solving the problem and not on the rights to any specific piece of land. However,
`the group did feel that before Central Park could be developed in any manner, the needs of the
youth had to be addressed by the city and its citizens.
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MINUTES
CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
Room B-8, Civic Center
Huntington Beach, California
Monday, May 23, 1994
Mayor Moulton-Patterson called the adjourned regular meetings of the City Council and
the Redevelopment Agency to order at 5:30 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Bauer, Robitaille, Moulton-Patterson, Winchell, Leipzig, Sullivan
ABSENT: Silva
CLOSED SESSION
The Mayor called a Closed Session of the City Council pursuant to Government Code
Section 54957.6 to meet with its designated representative William Osness, Director of
Personnel and Daniel Cassidy, Esq., Liebert, Cassidy and Frierson Re: Labor
Relations matters - Meet and Confer regarding the following employee organizations:
Police Officers' Association (POA), Municipal Employees Association (MEA), Marine
Safety Officers' Association (MSOA), Municipal Employees Organization (MEO),
Fireman's Benevolent Association (FBA) and Police Management Association (PMA).
The Mayor called a Closed Session of the City Council pursuant to Government Code.
Section 54957 to consider Personnel Matters - Performance Evaluation of City
Administrator.
RECESS - RECONVENE
The Mayor called a recess of Council at 5:30 P.M. The meeting reconvened at 6:30
P.M. in the Council Chamber.
1994-95 CITY BUDGET - DISCUSSION ITEMS
The City Clerk presented a communication from the Director of Administrative Services
dated May 23, 1994 setting forth discussion items as follows: Budget Concepts,
Estimated Shortfall, State Budget, Public Employees Retirement System (PERS)
Unfunded Liability, Potential Ballot Proposition, Budget Timetable.
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Robert Franz, Director of Administrative Services, announced that two documents had
been distributed to the City Council: "Month of May Revision State Budget Slide 10A"
and "Fiscal Policies Slide 2A".
The City Administrator reported on the topics covered in Slide 2A - Expenditures
Supported by Revenues, Maintain 3% to 5% Reserve, No New Capital Improvements
unless all Costs Funded, Enterprise Funds, Enterprise Funds Should Reflect All Costs,
Reserves in Excess of 5% Available for Capital Projects and Phase in Period Required.
The City.Administrator,reviewed-the discussion-item topics, including Slides 3 through
17. The topics included Budget Problems; Definitions, City General Fund, Shortfall
Estimates, General Fund Reserves, Fund Balance History, Alternatives Solutions,
Impact of Alternative Solutions, City Shortfall Solutions During the Recession, State
Budget--2 Year Perspective, State Budget Shortfall Estimates, Revenue Losses to the
State During the Recession (5 Years), PERS Unfunded Liability Estimated Costs,
PERS Unfunded Liability 1994-95, Potential Local Ballot Initiative, Budget Timetable
May-June and July-September.
Councilmember Bauer commented on areas he would like addressed including the
feasibility of Enterprise Funds and Profit Centers, Performance Based budgeting, public
expectation of same level services with lowered level of resources. The MSI Study as it
relates to the budget was commented upon by Councilmember Leipzig. The fact that
the City does not yet know the State budget plans was discussed. The City
Administrator commented on regionalization and privatization of city services. Mayor
Moulton-Patterson asked the City Administrator if he would investigate consolidating
with school districts as well as with other cities and the City Administrator stated that he
planned to do so.
BEACH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM
The City Clerk presented a communication from the Director of Community Services
dated May 23, 1994, entitled, "Beach Capital Improvement Program - City Council
Presentation - May 23, 1994".
Ron Hagan, Community Services Director, reported on the South Beach Master Plan,
Maxwell's Master Plan, Bluff-Top, Bluff Bottom Master Plan. He referred to wall
drawings.
Jim Pickel, Purkiss-Rose Associates, reviewed wall exhibits, including Bluff Top Project,
Pier Plaza. The Community Services Director reported on the financing of the South
Beach Master Plan -- cost and revenue projections and funding sources for projects.
He spoke regarding the Maxwell's operation. The Community Services Director spoke
regarding the importance of separating bike and pedestrians and commented on the
number of claims filed against the city from accidents. A report was made on the
parking history of the South Beach Parking Area.
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The Director of Administrative Services reported on the Maxwell's operation and lease
and the plans for rebuilding Maxwell's. The need for more financial information from a
financial consultant was discussed. The use of Certificates of Participation and the
issuance of new debt was discussed by Councilmember Sullivan and the Director of
Administrative Services. Discussion was held between the Community Services
Director and Councilmember Bauer regarding procedure and process to attain
completion of project, use of Certificates of participation and the parking plan at the
Central Library. Councilmember Robitaille presented questions regarding the priority of
Tower Zero.
YOUTH SPORTS FACILITIES PRESENTATION
The City Clerk presented a communication from the Director of Community Services
dated May 23, 1994 entitled, "Youth Sports Facilities Presentation--City Council.
Ron Hagan, Community Services Director, reported referring to wall drawings. Jim
Engle, Deputy Director/Beach, Recreation & Development, reported on three potential
park or school sites for youth sports complexes.
(1) Huntington Central Park (Old Mushroom Farm Area -- east of Goldenwest Street,
North of Ellis Avenue, sixteen acres west of Goldenwest Street at Talbert Avenue
terminus, southwest of Goldenwest and Gothard Streets)
(2) Park View School/Murdy Park
(3) Peterson School (One block east of Beach Boulevard, south of Indianapolis
Avenue)
Jim Engle presented slides. He reported on proposed uses at Huntington Central Park
stating that roller hockey would also be a proposed sport. He presented the constraints
and opportunities on each site. Mr. Engle also reported on the portion of the report
entitled Other Opportunities For Youth Sports Facilities: Ocean View High School,
Dwyer School, Irby Park, Bolsa Chica Linear Park, Lagenbeck Park, School Fields. He
reported on the status of city efforts for joint projects. The Community Services
Director stated it was planned to set up a Youth Sports Task Force from the community.
Councilmember Sullivan thanked Mr. Hagan and Mr. Engle stating that it was an
outstanding report particularly for pointing out the pros and cons. He congratulated the
Department all the way back to former Recreation and Parks Director Norm Worthy,
who had enormous vision.
Presentation by Chuck Beauregard -- Save Our Kids -Youth Sports
Chuck Beauregard, representing Save Our Kids, 5942 Edinger Avenue, Suite 307,
Huntington Beach, was introduced to the Council by staff. Mr. Beauregard presented
written information to the City Council.
He stated that some of the Save Our Kids Board members were present: Board
Members include: (Representing Baseball/Softball) Vicki Czuleger, Past President of
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Robinwood Little League, Mike Simon, Robinwood Little League, Philip Baumfeld, Past
President of Ocean View Little League, John Ringer, Huntington Beach Girls' Softball,
(Representing Soccer) Tim Phelps - Commissioner of Region 56, Paul McLoed,
Commissioner of Region 143, Bruce Bricks, President South Coast Soccer Club, AYSO
Referee, USSF Referee, Dr. Ann Chlebicki, representing Aquatics and Richard
Henderson representing pre-school sport.
Mr. Beauregard reviewed his communication that was presented on slides. He referred
to a research document, The Benefits of Parks and Recreation produced by the Ontario
Ministry of Tourism and Recreation in 1992, which he stated he would be glad to
provide to Council. He used a slide to present figures and information from the City
Planning Department outlining the 1993-94 Community Profile. He referred to a
Register Newspaper article dated April 14, 1994, Huntington Considers Sports
Complex. Mr. Beauregard presented other slides showing current use of school parks.
He stated that Save Our Kids had three stated objectives: Save Our Kids wants: (1)
The City to establish its youth as the City's number one priority, (2) The City Council to
pass a resolution that before the City can allow the sale or zoning of a public park or
school land currently being used for a Youth Sport activity, the city must find or develop
a new facility or enhance a current facility to accommodate the displaced activity. Such
replacement facility must be a long term solution (3) The city to establish a defined plan
for satisfying the land, water and facilities needs for the youth of the City of Huntington
Beach for the next 25 years.
The materials referred to by Mr. Beauregard were filed with the City Clerk.
ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE (DIVISION 9 RE-WRITE)
The City Clerk presented a communication from Melanie Fallon, Director of Community
Development dated May 19, 1994 entitled Zoning and Subdivision Ordinance Rewrite.
The Community Development Director presented an overview of the proposed Zoning
and Subdivision Ordinance and the proposed public hearing schedule.
Susan Pierce, Associate Planner, reviewed the current and proposed Title 20 General
Provisions and summaries of Title 24 Administration, Title 22 - Overlay Districts and
Title 25 - Subdivisions.
Request For Opinion Re: Conditional Use Permits
Councilmember Leipzig stated that he would like to see the law where the City Council
can extend conditional use permits. The City Attorney reported. Councilmember
Leipzig stated his desire to see this opinion in writing.
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ADJOURNMENT - COUNCIUREDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
The Mayor adjourned the adjourned regular meetings of the City Council and the
Redevelopment Agency of the City of Huntington Beach to Monday, June 6, 1994 at 5
p.m., Room B-8, Council Chamber, Civic Center.
Clerk of the Redevelopment Agency and
City Clerk and ex-officio Clerk of the City
Council of the City of Huntington Beach,
California
ATTEST:
City Clerk/Clerk Mayor/Chairman
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