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File #: 19-1074 MEETING DATE: 10/21/2019
REQUEST FOR CITY COUNCIL ACTION
SUBMITTED TO: Honorable Mayor and City Council Members
SUBMITTED BY: Mike Posey, City Councilmember
Subject:
Submitted by Councilmember Posey - Updating the Historic Standard Market Plaque at 126
Main Street
Background:
This past May 2019, 1 was informed by the Huntington Beach Preserve Our Past group that the
plaque located on the historic Standard Market building at 126 Main Street may contain historically
inaccurate information (see attached information packet). Of note, the Standard Market building is a
two-story building constructed in the zigzag moderne style, and was built and operated by the
DeBritton family.
Based on information that I received, it appears that the plaque may contain several inaccurate
details, including the following:
■ The Standard Market opened in 1931, not in 1926 as indicated on the plaque.
■ Robert DeBritton owned the market and the building, not Roy DeBritton as indicated on the
plaque.
■ Roy DeBritton's son Bob did not work at the Standard Market as indicated on the plaque.
Based on the facts that I was provided with, it appears that an extensive process was engaged to
assess the updated details that should be included in a new plaque at the Standard Market building.
Among the steps taken during this review process include:
■ The City's Historic Resources Board voted in September 2013 to update Standard Market
plaque, given the historical inaccuracies included in the existing plaque language.
■ The current owner of the building has given provided permission to update the plaque.
■ Language for a new proposed plaque has been developed for consideration by the Huntington
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Recommended Action:
Given the information that I've received, and based on a review that has already been conducted by
both the City Historic Resources Board and the Huntington Beach Preserve Our Past group, I am
recommending that the City Council vote to direct staff to update the plaque located on the historic
Standard Market building with correct historical information, as outlined in the attached information
packet.
Attachment(s):
1. Supporting Documentation
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CITY OF HUNTINGTON BEACH
CITY COUNCIL MEETING—COUNCIL MEMBER ITEMS REPORT
TO: THE HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL
FROM: MIKE POSEY, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER
DATE: OCTOBER 21,2019
SUBJECT: UPDATING THE HISTORIC STANDARD MARKET PLAQUE AT 126 MAIN STREET
BACKGROUND
This past May 2019, 1 was informed by the Huntington Beach Preserve Our Past group that the plaque
located on the historic Standard Market building at 126 Main Street may contain historically inaccurate
information (see attached information packet). Of note,the Standard Market building is a two-story
building constructed in the zigzag moderne style, and was built and operated by the DeBritton family.
Based on information that I received, it appears that the plaque may contain several inaccurate details,
including the following:
■ The Standard Market opened in 1931, not in 1926 as indicated on the plaque.
■ Robert DeBritton owned the market and the building, not Roy DeBritton as indicated on the
plaque.
■ Roy DeBritton's son Bob did not work at the Standard Market as indicated on the plaque.
Based on the facts that I was provided with, it appears that an extensive process was engaged to assess
the updated details that should be included in a new plaque at the Standard Market building. Among
the steps taken during this review process include:
■ The City's Historic Resources Board voted in September 2013 to update Standard Market
plaque,given the historical inaccuracies included in the existing plaque language
■ The current owner of the building has given provided permission to update the plaque.
■ Language for a new proposed plaque has been developed for consideration by the Huntington
Beach Preserve Our Past group.
RECOMMENDED ACTION
Given the information that I've received,and based on a review that has already been conducted by
both the City Historic Resources Board and the Huntington Beach Preserve Our Past group, I am
recommending that the City Council vote to direct staff to update the plaque located on the historic
Standard Market building with correct historical information,as outlined in the attached information
packet.
Huntington Beach Preserve Our Past
HB POP "We Pop Up To Help With Preservation In HB"
May 24, 2019
Dear Councilman Posey,
In 2000 The HRB had a plaque made, and that the City paid for, for The Historic
Standard Market that was located at 126 Main Street. Unfortunately some of the
information on the plaque is historically inaccurate.
• "1'he market opened in 1931 not 1926.
• Robert Young DeBritton owned the market and the building, not Roy
DeBritton.
• His son did not work there, as he was not even born yet.
• In September the HRB voted and passed to replace the plaque out of their
budget.
• In August 2015 Barbara Haynes received an email from HRB member Dave
Wentworth stating they are not going to replace it.
• Mr. DeBritton's son Bob, tried for years after the plaque was installed to get it
corrected, but to no avail.
• HBPOP wants to see the history corrected for the DeBritton family. A few
more details were added for the new plaque as well as a photo of the open air
market.
Thank you in advance for you helping correct history!
Sincerely,
Barbara Haynes and Gloria Alvarez
HB Preserve Our Past
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There are 7 attachments:
• The current plaque
• The new proposed plaque
• Pricing direct from the foundry
• The demo permit verifying the demolition date
• The letter from the owner of the building gi%ring us permission to change the
plaques
• Minutes from the HRB voting and passing to get a new plaque made
• The letter from Dave Wentworth stating they are not going to replace it
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HISTORIC SITE OF THE STANDARD MARKET
THE CLASSIC TWO STORY ZIG ZAG MODERNS. STRUCTURE BUILT BY ROBERT YOUNG DeBRITTON,
OPENED ON THIS SITE IN LATE 1931 WITH APARTMENTS ABOVE AND AN OPEN SIDED MARKET BELOW.
THE MARKET FEATURED A GROCERY DEPARTMENT, RUN BY ROBERT YOUNG DeBRITTON,THE
STANDARD FRUIT AND VEGETABLE DEPARTMENT RUN BY LEO CLOY, THE BAKERY DEPARTMENT RUN BY
EDGAR DALTON, AND THE MEAT DEPARTMENT RUN BY RAY McINTOSH, WHO HAD THE LARGEST AND
FINEST REFRIGERATORS FOR THE FRESHEST EGGS, DAIRY AND FISH.THE RAINBOW LUNCH COUNTER,A
POPULAR MEETING PLACE FOR LOCALS, WAS OPERATED BY CLAUDE FREDERICK.
THE STANDARD MARKET SURVIVED THE 1933 EARTHQUAKE,THE GREAT DEPRESSION, A VOLATILE
STORM ALL IN ITS FIRST DECADE. FINALLY DAMAGED BY A FIRE, IT WAS DEMOLISHED IN 1997.
THIS PLAQUE IS DEDICATED BY
HUNTINGTON BEACH PRESERVE OUR PAST
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Barbara
Heard back from foundry rep.
The cost to do a 18" x 24" cast bronze plaque with text and a metal
photo plate is$1,840.00 plus$40.00 shipping and CA sales tax.
Rep said the black and white photo has more contrast and would work better.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you. Tom
337 W. Cerritos Ave., Glendale, CA 91204
Hours: Mon-Fri 8:30am to 4:30pm
Tom Skidmore,Vice President
Southern California Trophy Company
Ph: 818-550-9144/Fax: 818-550-9126
www.socaltrophy.com
Southern California Bronze Company
Ph: 818-550-9132/Fax: 818-550-9126
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Huntington Beach Preserve Our Past
HBPOP "We POP Up To Help With Preservation In HB"
May 22, 2019
Coastline West
Attn: Dave
In May 2014 The Historic Resources Board asked permission to change the
Standard Market plaque on the Walnut side because the current plaque is
historically inaccurate. They did receive permission to replace it.
Unfortunately the HRB is not doing the plaque, but Huntington Beach Preserve
Our Past is the process of getting a new plaque with the correct information.
If you could please forward this to the correct person so we can have permission,
we can replace the plaque, we will move forward.
There will be no cost to the building owner and the City will be the ones replacing
the plaque.
Thank you in advance for your help.
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Barbara Haynes
HB Preserve Our Past
19006 Holly Lane * Huntington Beach, California 92648
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City of Huntington Beach
Historic Resources Board
Meeting Minutes
Wednesday,September 18,2013,6:00 P.M.
City Hall, Room B-7, 2000 Main St, Huntington Beach,CA 92648
I. Call to Order/Roll Call-Meeting called to order at 6:00 P.M. by Haynes,Substituting for Alvaret
Bryant, Essner, Haynes,Minnie,David Wentworth,Sr.,Duane Wentworth.
Alvarez,Santiago,Schey absent.
II. Welcome and Introduction-No one present to be introduced.
III. Approval of Minutes-No minutes available to be approved.
IV. Public Comments-No public comments.
V. Oral Communication and Presentations-Design Review Board Report
Schey absent. No DIRE,Report.
VI. Administrative-No administrative report.
VII. Current Issues
1. Draft Historic Context and Survey Report
2. Wintersburg Japanese Church
3. Main Street Library and Triangle Park Sign and Plaque
There will be three(3)plaques at a total cost of$3,137.40.
HRB $900
HBDRA $400
Anonymous $1,000
Anonymous $100
Still needed $737.40
Discussion ensued regarding paying for the remainder of the plaques for the library from HRB Fund.
Motion to pay for plaques from HRB Fund$737.40 for plaques.Haynes(1),Minnie(2)
4. Oral History Project-Tabled
5, Walking Tour Filming-Matt Liefring,who films events for the City, will do a video of the walking tour
HRB created.
G. Standing Committees-Haynes will redo with last names,instead of first names.
7. Board Goals- Bryant had copy of older Board Goals. Haynes read them aloud.HRR had already done
many of them. HB News—HRB should scan old issues back to 1900's. Haynes to contact Jerry?
8. Surf City Nights-Dave Wentworth,Sr,reported that most of the activity was 7-8P.M. Cindy and
Duane Wentworth suggested an 11"x 14"photo to be opportunity drawn.
9. Standard Market Plaque-Plaque must be redone because it's historically inaccurate. Discussion
ensued about attaching plaques and about paying for the plaque from the HRB Fund. Motion to pay
$325 for new plaque.Bryant(1),Wentworth(2)
10. Establish Archiving/Artifact SUbcom mittee-Ramos to re-email HRB Bylaws to all Current members of
the HRB
11. Facebook- Haynes reported that HRB is up to 258"Likes."
12. Approved letterhead unanimously.
Vill. Materials Distributed and Recent Findings
IX. Items to be Agendized-
Addition of Annual HRB Holiday Party
Vote to extend Surf City Nights
X. Next Meeting/Adjournment
Next meeting will be October 16,2011
Meeting adjourned at 6:58 P.M. Haynes(1)Minnie(2)
Respectfully submitted,
Roz Essner,Secretary
Standard Market Plaque https://mail.aol.com/webnmil-std/en-us/PriniMessagr,
From: Dewentworthsr<Dewentworthar@aol.corry
To: dglasslest<dglasslest@aol.com>
Subject: Standard Market Plaque
Date: Thu,Aug 20.2015 3:40 pm
Subject: Standard Market Plaque
Barbara,
We had a discussion about the Standard Market Plaque and because the City
Council has told us that ALL plaques going forward must be approved by them for
both funding, and text. This has essentially stopped any plaque planning &
installation for the near future. The Finance Dept. has told us they are
dissolving our current bank account for ALL Boards effective the end of their fiscal
year. Our questionable finance account situation has complicated our ability to get
the Standard Market plaque issue resolved.
The fact that the current plaque in question(near the elevator) is on private
property, any Group has the rights to proceed on this re-plaque on their own, as
long as they have property owners approval, and the correct wording, if they so
chose to do so.
Dave Wentworth Sr.
Hb Historic Resources Board
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To: Peterson, Erik; Semeta, Lyn; Posey, Mike; Hardy, Jill; Carr, Kim; Brenden, Patrick; Delgleize,
Barbara
Cc: Fikes, Cathy; Estanislau, Robin
Subject: Please Reject H Item 19-1074!!!
Attachments: PLAQUE ASSESSMENT.docx SUPPLEMENTAL
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I have only just returned from a conference,else I'd have written sooner.
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Comments Re: Council Agenda Item 32.#19-1074. October 21,2019
1 have read, with deep concern,the deceptive presentation regarding this item and grossly misleading statement"a
review has already been conducted by the Historic Resources Board". Certainly, Mr. Posey has not been properly or
fully informed.
In particular,
• The HRB minutes presented from SIX YEARS AGO, documented ONLY the belief at that time that the
plaque contained inaccuracies— NOT what those inaccuracies were and certainly did NOT review or
approve any proposed language for a replacement. Any statement to the contrary is FALSE.
• The email from Mr. David Wentworth dated August 20, 2013, FOUR YEARS AGO, was a personal one. It
was not an official communication from the HRB and was not meant to be. Any assertion to the
contrary is FALSE.
In keeping with its mission as defined by Council,the Historic Resources Board should review any and all proposed
language containing historic information or content for permanent public placement. The members of the HRB include
award-winning historians, authors,educators and others with particular qualifications to do this work. Two of us have
graduate degrees in the field and two of us are qualified under guidelines established by Federal Law to evaluate historic
infrastructure. I am unaware of any other group in Huntington Beach whose members are similarly qualified. In any
case,the Historic Resources Board is the official board appointed for this purpose.
Further, NO PLAQUE OF THE TYPE PROPOSED SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE CITY, especially within miles of the
coastline. A detailed report which was previously submitted to the city staff some time ago is attached. It documents
the short life span and predictable failure of plaques with photographic inserts because they are only imprinted on
aluminum which corrodes quickly when exposed to ocean air. The Golden Bear plaque delaminated and fell apart. The
plaque at Triangle Park is similarly corroding as well. No amount of covering the surface with any wax or chemical will
delay this and will actually cause further damage.
These kinds of plaques may look attractive to begin with, but quickly decay into a scar on the historic places they are
intended to celebrate.
The people of Huntington Beach and our guests deserve appropriately worded plaques made of appropriate materials.
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Please direct that this matter be PROPERLY referred to the Historic Resources Board for evaluation and
recommendations.
Respectfully,
Kathie A. Schey
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Golden Bear Plaque — Corrosion and Repair Assessment
On May 9, 2016, the plaque marking the former location of the fabled Golden
Bear— one of the most iconic and enduring historic sites in Huntington Beach —
was observed to be severely corroded. In place at that time less than two years, it
was a startling discovery. Authorities on this topic, including National Park Service
publications and staff as well as the firm from which the plaque was obtained,
have been consulted to determine possible repairs or mitigations. The following
report summarizes the resulting findings.
Problem: Corrosion
Corrosion was first brought to the attention of the HRB and the Planning
Department when it was first reported on May 13, 2016. While the entire plaque
appeared to be dirty and worn (Image 1), the aluminum insert featuring an etched
photographic image was in particularly imminent danger from corrosion.
Chemical deposits and resultant decay were very evident primarily along the
bottom but extending up the sides and along the top of the insert (Image 2). The
edges of the insert were compromised (Image 3), they were curling up and the
plaque was clearly one "weather event" away from destruction despite the fact
that it had occupied this location for less than two years.
Subsequently, within a short time, the plaque was vandalized by someone
inscribing graffiti into the remains of the insert— easily done in the soft surface of
aluminum. Shortly thereafter, the insert disappeared in its entirety. Currently,
the plaque remains in place, bereft of the insert. It is an eyesore that does no
credit to the Golden Bear or to our City. Thousands of tourists, a number of
whom are familiar with the widespread fame of the Golden Bear, are greeted
with a tragic demonstration of our city's inability to celebrate our remarkable
past.
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Remediation or Repair: an Impossibility
In the time between identifying the severe corrosion and the ultimate loss of the
plaque insert itself, the advice of experts was sought. One high ranking employee
of the National Park Service whose job focuses on preservation of bronze
memorials, replied simply "You have plaque problems!" His authorship of
numerous guidelines for bronze plaque placement and maintenance are widely
available.
The plaque in question was purchased from Socal Bronze, a company widely
recognized by the NPS, numerous historic preservation groups throughout the
nation, and a host of governmental entities within California.
This very creditable entity refused to warranty this plaque (and others) because of
placement in our marine environment. In fact, they warned the individuals who
took it upon themselves to purchase the plaque, that it was wholly unacceptable
in a marine environment where salt air would clearly render the aluminum insert
worthless in a very short period of time. This has been confirmed by an email
from one of the two individuals who made this decision.
As such, our marine environment renders this type of plaque completely
unacceptable. Salt air and aluminum do not mix. The company further shared
that no amount of waxing, clear coating or other mitigating measures will do
more than extend the life of a replacement insert for anything but the briefest
time. Their advice now - as it was given then- is that this is a completely
unacceptable plaque type for our environment, however visually pleasing it might
be. It cannot be repaired. It must be replaced with an appropriate solid bronze
plaque with no aluminum insert.
Further, there can be no reuse of the existing plaque in making a new one. The
foundry is located in Pennsylvania. The cost of shipping the plaque back to be
melted down and remade is prohibitive. Some local recycler would likely
purchase it for the metal value, but no other use can be made of it for
replacement purposes.
Additional Follow-up and Concerns
Plaque deterioration is the direct result of an improper choice of plaque type for
placement in our marine environment. While some locations are more sheltered
than others slowing the process, it is not reversible making these types of plaques
inappropriate choices for Huntington Beach.
In fact, the other plaques of this type are also eroding. Triangle Park's sign is
showing similar corrosion and delamination. (Image 4) Since it is located a bit
further from the shore and is somewhat sheltered from the salty winds by some
buildings, it is corroding more slowly. However, it is corroding irreversibly.
Further, because of the angle at which it is placed, moisture gathers along the
bottom edge where it remains to eat deeply through the aluminum insert. Any
efforts to polish or rub the corrosion will only distress the plaque further,
removing even more aluminum.
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Conclusion
The Golden Bear Plaque must be replaced with a plaque of suitable materials for
the location. Repair or remediation of these plaques is not an option. No clear
coating or waxing will prevent their ultimate decay in only a few years - the
Golden Bear lasted for two.
Further, plaques of this type should not be placed in any exterior location in
Huntington Beach. While the imagery they present is appealing and informative,
only solid cast types should be used.